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၍ᙡᗩᙢᙢᙦᖇᗠᗩᙢᒞ
26th June 2023, 05:04 AM
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way--in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.

A recent news story reminded me of one of my own taxi rides. Let me stress that during my ride I never once had the slightest feeling of fear or confusion. Yet the ride was memorable because it occurred to me that another passenger might have thought he was being kidnapped.

I was in Central Bangkok and hopped in a taxi, asking to go to the Morchit Bus Station. Soon we were on the expressway heading North at high speed. Driver and I were chatting away like old friends, distracted, when I noticed we were well past the exit for the bus station. Driver laughed and said he'd take me to the Rangsit bus station (all northbound buses stop there) and that there'd be no charge at all since it was his blunder.

Going all the way to Rangsit would take him yet another 25 minutes out of his way. I "should" have been very suspicious, especially with the "no charge." I was a foreigner in a country some might view as dangerous. Was he going to rob me? Sell my kidneys? Why was he taking me all the way to Rangsit, when he could have turned off and just gone to my original Bangkok destination?

Despite my undiagnosed autism(?) I think I'm a pretty good judge of character, and not for one instant did I consider that something might be wrong.

We arrived at the stretch of road in Rangsit where buses stop. Despite his insistence there was no charge I paid him the full fare shown on the meter, and began lugging my suitcase the 35 yards to where my bus would stop. But he insisted that he drive me these last 35 yards. A friendly little encounter: I think he and I were both happy he'd missed the Morchit turn-off!

Contrast this with a story I just saw at cbsnews.com:A Kentucky woman has been accused of fatally shooting her West Texas Uber driver after mistakenly believing she was being kidnapped and taken to Mexico, according to police. Phoebe Copas, 48, remained jailed Sunday in El Paso, Texas, after being charged with murder last week in the death of 52-year-old Daniel Piedra Garcia.

Copas allegedly shot Garcia on U.S. Route 54 as he was driving her to a destination in El Paso's Mission Valley on June 16, the El Paso Police Department said in a statement.

"At some point during the drive, Copas thought she was being taken into Mexico and shot Piedra. The investigation does not support that a kidnapping took place or that Piedra was veering from Copas' destination," the statement said.
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Believing she was being kidnapped and taken to Mexico, Copas is accused of grabbing a handgun from her purse and shooting Piedra in the head, according to the affidavit. The vehicle crashed into barriers before coming to a stop on a freeway.

The area where the car crashed was "not in close proximity of a bridge, port of entry or other area with immediate access to travel into Mexico," according to the affidavit.

I'm posting this in Politics because American politics, for many people, is now almost synonymous with psychotic delusions. Half the voters almost literally want to kill the other half; and most of these hate-filled morons have guns. Thank heavens the woman, like most Americans in Flyover Land, carried a handgun. Without that uniquely American shibboleth the Uber driver might have guessed she was an illegal alien.

Zeener Diode
26th June 2023, 05:57 AM
This kind of incident is extremely rare, as Smartie and other gig drivers will tell you. Most of the time, fares go well. Occasionally you might be in a situation that gets heated, like someone trying to argue a fare or duck out of paying, but that's it. I knew someone who went to the same school I did who shot and killed a cabbie during a robbery, but that was over 40 years ago.

C2H5OH
26th June 2023, 06:26 AM
Some people have more brains in their bullets than they have in their head. At least the bullet knows which direction to go.

C2H5OH
26th June 2023, 09:12 AM
Yeah, I'm a righty, and, yeah I got guns. But I know which direction to point them. It would be at the rabid mutts on my side. The bullet will know which way to go...

SmartAleq
26th June 2023, 10:40 AM
That crazyperson and her ilk is the reason I only schlep food and things around, I don't allow strangers into my car, especially not while I'm driving and can't defend myself. Of course, in the batshit areas of the country even food delivery drivers aren't safe from the trigger happy contingent but aside from the easily spotted homeless persons (the crack pipes in visible use, needles hanging out their arms, the random screaming and the smell are the usual giveaways) most of the people I interact with are pretty chill and I haven't felt scared yet--aside from a few maniacs on the road. I also stick to delivery during daylight hours pretty much, poor night vision and more weirdos make me cautious about driving around after hours.

JackieLikesVariety
26th June 2023, 01:20 PM
I also stick to delivery during daylight hours pretty much, poor night vision and more weirdos make me cautious about driving around after hours.

that's going to make it harder to make a living in the winter :(

SmartAleq
26th June 2023, 01:34 PM
It's not that I CAN'T do it--I started doing the gig app work in January, after all, specifically to see how well I can tolerate it. And I find I can usually make my nut driving between 1100-1800, only going longer if they're throwing money at me. Plus, now that I'm not driving GoPuff I can work on sticking to the outer SE areas where getting around is easier in the dark. I carry a nice little bike light to use as a spotlight to see the house numbers too. I drive more miles but on wider, better lit streets so that's a decent tradeoff.

Zeener Diode
27th June 2023, 06:19 AM
I had the opportunity of joining Uber in 2011, before landing my job at Kaiser. It reminded me too much of my bad experience working (briefly) for Broadway Cab, and although I had the discretion of accepting fares I decided against it.

C2H5OH
27th June 2023, 09:46 AM
Uber drivers are in a pickle. The amount they pay for riders is only barely above minimum wage + cost of running the freaking car in the first place, plus, as this episode shows, a chance to get shot. When I wound up on disability, I looked into driving for Uber. Running the numbers, it wound up a hard 'Nope'. I was better off on the 600 and change bucks SSI was giving me each month. And I didn't have to endure shit from passengers every day, or worry about how I was going to pay for that fuel-pump replacement. At least working for a cab company, they worry about the cost of running the car, and you only have to deal with the asshole passengers. And you get paid by the hour.

SmartAleq
27th June 2023, 11:49 AM
Cab companies around here don't have hourly drivers any more, the drivers lease the vehicle by the week and yeah, they have to pay for the gas--not sure who pays for maintenance, but cab companies are essentially car rentals now. Not an improvement, not a bit.

၍ᙡᗩᙢᙢᙦᖇᗠᗩᙢᒞ
27th June 2023, 12:08 PM
Obviously it's not the same as Uber killings but I Googled for Wiki's list of intentional homicide rates and found these examples:

Honduras 36
South Africa 34
Myanmar 28
Brazil 22
Nigeria 22
Puerto Rico 18
Costa Rico 11
Russia 6.8
USA 6.4
Chile 4.8
Philippines 4.4
Kenya 4.0
India 3.0
Thailand 2.6
Iran 2.2
Canada 2.0
Cambodia 1.8
Romania 1.5
UK 1.0
Hungary 0.8
China 0.5
Italy 0.5

USA topped by far the list of developed countries, though behind Russia; but has less than ⅓ the rate of Brazil. USA has 2½ times the rate of Thailand so, at least by this stupidly crude measure, it may be right to feel safer in Thailand. I've been to almost none of the shown countries but I recall Manila, P.I. -- with almost twice the rate of Thailand -- and street urchins surrounding me and trying to take my wallet.

၍ᙡᗩᙢᙢᙦᖇᗠᗩᙢᒞ
27th June 2023, 12:15 PM
Cab companies around here don't have hourly drivers any more, the drivers lease the vehicle by the week and yeah, they have to pay for the gas--not sure who pays for maintenance, but cab companies are essentially car rentals now. Not an improvement, not a bit.

In the early 1990s new IRS rules were imposed on taxi drivers (and on IT contractors). IIRC taxi companies were required to treat drivers as employees to maximize tax, but these newly W2ed workers were not eligible for vacations, health isurance, etc.