Day 4 - I am Iron, Man
 

Dawn broke and Friendly McJenkins rolled up in red and yellow Mini Cooper to his spot in the parking lot. Large tufts of smoke billowed up from the golf course and Friendly sighed quietly to himself. He walked up to Hans who for once had nothing to say and was just shaking his head back and forth.

"What in the Devil may come happened here last night?" Friendly asked, motioning to one of his clubhouses that was pretty much ash and embers at this point. Hans tried to answer but couldn't. Finally he slapped the intern who said "It was the ice cream."

"The ice cream?"

"So they players are doing shots of Everclear when someone gets a bright idea to go find some ice cream. So they started searching the freezers in the kitchen for them. They didn't find any but one of them remembered that the clown in the woods had some so they ran to go find him. They succeeded in getting some, but not before the alligators in the lake came after them."

"Why in the hell were alligators trying to eat ice cream?" Hans asked.

"Ah yes," Friendly said reluctantly. "I keep telling that darn clown to stop feeding the wildlife. Apparently a few have taken a shine to the stuff. Acquired a taste for it."

"So anyway," the intern continued, "the players ran back to the clubhouse, the alligators in pursuit. The clown was following behind because no one bothered to pay for the ice cream. The players bump into the juggler who was in the middle of his golf ball, bowling ball, chainsaw routine. The golf ball goes flying into the alligator's mouth who starts choking and thrashing around. The bowling ball crashes through a window, rolls across the floor, and knocks the gasline of the fireplace on."

"And the chainsaw?" Friendly asked.

"It lands on the grass and turns itself off," the intern answered. "But the alligator's still thrashing around. Everyone clears away but the tiki torches outside can't quite move as fast as people. So one gets knocked down, hits a bottle of Everclear a player broke and starts a huge fireball that leads towards the house. It hits the gasline and in a flash, the place goes up. Players are jumping out windows, busting down doors, pushing and shoving and scraping to get outside. It was chaos. It was absolute madness."

"Wow," Friendly said. "So what was the casualty rate then?"

"None." Hans said.

"None?" Friendly asked incredulously.

"Not even a single nail broken."

"Well the alligator didn't make it. I named him Bitey."

"We'll have a ceremony for Bitey then." Friendly said as a piece of ash blew by. Then he stepped over the chainsaw, walked up to hole 4 where all the players were gathered and said "I guess...I guess game on!"

Day 4 ends at Noon CST Friday November 29. Result PMs where applicable to go out soon.

Nice!

Anything to share Bill or Archangel?

That's a pretty fantastic result.



I'm getting a very scummy vibe off of him.

I blocked Lightfoot. (Sorry, friend, you have had such a tough week IRL and if I were scum I would be furious with TLD.)

Her lack of response to the Packratter issue (after Packratter fully claimed I mean) struck me as highly suspect.

That was wonderful color!

I actually WifoMed myself into a tizzy and changed the order several times, but this was my first and last order. (Sorry, Friendly, I haven't drank like that since college.)

Archangel-

- N1 the person you blocked did not have a NK power but there was only one NK ( not a surprise- until there were 3 the following Night) we have had 1/3/0


There are other things at play- even if I had a killing power( I don’t) I could not have taken out 3 N2 ( or even 2- if we think Bill got Giraffe)

I did not target anyone last Night so your block was unfortunately wasted- there is another reason why there were no casualties


I don’t think there is another blocker

We could have a doc ( or two given the reveals)

People not putting in orders?


For the record your ( Archangel) turn around on Packratter I found suspect too- there were so many flaws in her claiming and responses ( combined with what had happened in game) that I thought she was making shite up as she went along ( but there are roles that don’t follow the norm in this game- we know now) )


And I agree if I were Scum I would be furious with TLD as well

_{medically we may be making progress ( baby steps but he is writing notes now)- but still have weeks before the boy could possibly come home}

Oog, anyone seem Harper's Island? I'm on the second episode on Netflix. It was a 2009 show with just 13 episodes.
23 actors on the island...one's a killer. But apparently even the cast didn't know who, and didn't know who would die from week to week until they were handed that episode's script.

It's cheesy and melodramatic. But intruiging. A Mafia mini-series!
If you've seen it, no spoilers!

After your questionable approach shot on the 3rd, I was wondering whether you would sneak out early this morning for some extra practice - which is clearly against the PGA rules - so I clearly couldn't allow that.

Now either Archangel and I both got hole-in-ones, or it was one hell of a party and no one was in a fit state to do anything else.

I'm suspicious of Squid, whose posts give a scummish sense, but wonder about his voting Scáthach D2.168. His vote made the count 6-4-3 with the 6 and 3 both claiming Town power. This vote would run serious risk of causing teammate's death, with teammate TLD already AWOL. Scum would do this only if they thought Scáthach death inevitable, but if that were the case why was Squid's vote post so equivocal? Why not denounce Scáthach more vigorously?

Clever scum might think all this through to deceive and Squid is certainly clever. But simplest explanations are often best and I'll give Squid a pass for now. Is my analysis of this correct? If so, it makes guiri's smudge of Squid's vote look odd.

"Brothers-in-law," "Attorneys-general", ... shouldn't it be "holes-in-one"? ... Is this a scum slip? :facepalm:

... Just joking. Lacking other clearcut candidates, Bill's implicit accusation makes toDay's vote easy.

Okay, but we had another roleblocker night one.

(Very glad Kody is making progress. You must all be out of your minds with worry.)

Now that is an interesting choice of club for this par 5.
Both Mr Guiri and Ms Lightfoot were prevented from any additional practice, and there were clearly two others, in addition to myself, out on the driving range on N3.

Does Mr Guiri's devastating drive off the tee present a greater threat to you or your team?

Nobody is accusing you of having taken out 3 people on Night 2. In fact, nobody has actually accused you of anything.

So, you are completely discounting Archangel's claimed block of Lightfoot ?

I wondered that myself. (Btw, sorry, SP...you were my plausible strawman yesterDay. Didn't want to tip off anyone as to whom I might be blocking.)

Also wondered why Squid came and in placed a vote without waiting to hear results from Bill and me.

On another note, I hope not to hear any further arguments from Moody Mitchy today based on things that didn't happen that Bill and I are scum together.

Answering you and Bill:
No, I'd already expressed suspicion of guiri yesterDay. I will be happy to study other cases, but indicate my lean with an early vote.

Setting aside whether Lightfoot and guiri are both Killers, or just one, I wish folks would offer feedback on my comments on Squid's Day 2 vote. Perhaps I have it wrong: Scummy Squid would deliberately make his vote equivocal to give himself the option of backing out of it at the last moment. (Have I mentioned that I'm indecisive?)

You give me too much credit.

ATM, I'm liking most of the claims we have, so I feel we're somewhere like this on the suspicion front:

Archangel
BillMc

sinjin

moody mitchy
crys
Suburban Plankton
Colby11

gnarlycharlie
guiri
Lightfoot

Heterometrus swammerdami

What do you all think?

Vote Archangel

Sorry , you don't always get what you hoped for...


The main thing that's doing it for me is that you keep on reminding us.. It seems to me that you are trying to convince us that you have a blocking role...

Even last Night you said

Night 3 #6 (snipped) "Okay, so the one thing that we can all agree upon is that I did not in fact block a kill N1. "#

I disagree.. I can't even agree that you blocked anyone..

ToDay you then say Day 4 #11 ... In response to Lightfoot perhaps not quite believing you either...

"Okay, but we had another roleblocker night one."

NO ... We KNOW we had 1 roleblocker Night 1... That has been proven by a death and a reveal...

We have 2 dead TOWN cops so the only way I will know you are telling the truth (Unless I'm a SCUM Cop) is at end game , if you survive or by the reveal come the time of your lynch...

She conveniently removed her vote late on Day 3 ... Even when it was clear that Packratter was going to swing and , although I can't find the posts... (Haven't looked hard enough for them yet)

I think that there were 2 posts yesterDay where she stated that I would look bad if Packratter wasn't SCUM or 3rd party... At least that's how I read it...

Or even that I was a more powerful SCUM role...

There are a couple of other players who've said they'd be happy to vote me, I've raised suspicions purely from the timing of my votes !!!

If I'm raising suspicions... I'm wondering why I've not been the target of a block ?

One hell of a party it must have been then, nicely played.

What was wrong with my shot on the 3rd?

There were 3 NKs Night 2 and none last night and I am your number one suspect?

Archangel...

Have you , at this precise moment got verifiable proof that you're not responsible for any of the kills Night 2 ?

Thought not

You'll do for now, I will look at other cases as the Day goes on but thought that getting an early vote down would perhaps generate some conversation.

For me... You telling me what you "perhaps" know is the truth isn't enough at the moment..

I might be wrong but if I'm SCUM.. Would I be making this so boldly ?

Mitchy, up until now I haven't thought you were scum because I though you broke the tie by moving your vote to Scathach. I was wrong, and after dealing with Lightfoot and Guiri you are next on my list.

Scum would do anything. Was his vote so equivocal? Didn't he say something about being vindicated? Did you notice he voted you?
What's the accusation?

I trust Bill but I am not sure what he is saying he did to Guiri. I could be wrong but I don't think Lightfoot and Guiri are teammates. Without further input, I think she is more likely scum (she was the first person to notice TLD was going to be mod-killed) and he is more likely serial killer. I may well change my vote with further input.

I agree with your initial opinion that Squid's post being equivocal made it more likely he was town.

I know they'll do what they want anyway, but I think the other mason should claim now. We haven't had any counterclaims for mason, and David was right that if it gets to Lylo that will be dangerous. The places for scum to hide are getting narrower and I would like to narrow them further.

So you are effectively calling me a liar here as well.

Packratter admitted to being blocked.
I saw Archangel visit Packratter
If she didn't block, what action would a scummy Archangel have performed on Packratter?

You clearly hooked it and it was heading for the sand trap, but saved by a bounce of that tree.

It's almost academic, you see it one way and I see it another (after all that's what equivocal means but I'd like to understand how you can possibly see that vote as evidence of his towniness, he starts it with, paraphrasing, look at how scummy I am (concerned how he looks) but hey "[...]I'm confident I can be vindicated." and shows no hesitation to vote Scathach, despite claiming to not understand or have followed the case against her, purely for the information it will give about others, and because he doesn't buy the case against Packratter (which he managed to read and follow?). Read the post here. Screams of scum.

Lightfoot, did you receive any communication from the moderator about last Night?

I suppose I could follow up that accusation with a vote



But I suspect there's more to learn about the events of last Night...

How many people did really follow the case against Scathach? It seemed at the time to be the best alternative to voting the claimed (and now known to be true) Town Cop Packratter and the claimed (and possibly true) Mason sinjin. And I don't think I'm the only one who voted for those reasons.

I'm not sure we need to know who the other mason is just yet. They'll claim if they have to, but I doubt we should force it unless they're in danger of being lynched. sinjin is still around and hopefully has made arrangements in case s/he gets NK'd.

Upon rereading the post I can kind of see your point. So you now find Squid more scummy than Swammerdami?

Possibly no-one, possibly the case made no sense whatsoever, but you said you hadn't even read the thread - not that you didn't understand the case.
I have them both as solid red along with Moody although the Lightfoot block could change things.

Bill, golfisms aside, did you block a single player or spike the punch last Night?

Hi all, I drove all day yesterday to get home to freezing weather. Caught a wicked cold from some snot nosed mouse eared rug rat, I'm sure, and have been woozy with cold meds all day today. Mrsin is now coming down with the same, bleh. I am here, but am having trouble congutating. Will be rereading tomorrow cause I'm completely confuzzled at the moment and should not be allowed to handle heavy equipment :( sniffle

I realize that- at the time- I had not been accused of anything-

I was apparently blocked and no one made a NK- as happened with Packratter I expect that it would seem probably to some that they were related (I felt the same when Packratter was blocked causing a lower NK count)

I was trying t help determine where the NK’s were coming from

Bill “ appears to “ have blocked Guiri ( the cryptic comments leave a lot to be surmised)

We know that we had one deceased revealed roleblocker-but I can’t quite see how that relates to my post? ( can you help)

I did not receive a PM since I didn't put in any order

NETA how about you Guiri?

crys soft claimed a Town power role D1- with no results to date


Archangel claimed roleblocker-D1 under pressure- packratter admitted to being blocked ( but we did have a Scum roleblocker alive at that time)

sinjin claimed Mason to avoid a lynch D2 – unproven at this point

Bill appears to be a JOAT of some sort- but he is being cryptic and that bothers me

Have I missed other soft claims?

Possibly....

Though a SCUM Tracker/Watcher would also have given you a sign that Archangel had visited Packratter Night 1

Unless I still completely misunderstand those roles...


I think the other Mason should claim too.. Would give me 2 people I could trust then..

I did not receive any communication from the moderator this Morning.

Yes, most Mods just post results in the Scum thread rather than sending PM's. ;)

BTW, I agree that Squid's posting style seems very scummish. My question about Squid's vote concerns Scum strategy. If Squid were busing teammate for Town cred, mightn't he have been more vehement about this, to get better Town cred?

(I keep going back and forth in my mind on this question. As is, I still have Squid among top Scum suspects. I do want to be open-minded, and hope to see cases against Lightfoot and Moody summarized.)

Yes. I read your initial line, which said there was only one NK N1 and that was no big surprise until N2 when there were 3, plus your commentary that maybe last night there was a doctor or two in play, as calling into question why there was only one NK N1.

I'll put a full case on Lightfoot when I get to work (checking in with morning coffee). But I find it very bizarre that we had two (apparent-- I am still not sure what exactly Bill did) blocks last night, no deaths, and the two primary suspects as per results of the blocks aren't even commenting on each other.

I may or may not have been blocked last Night, I'm entirely unaware, but I can assure you that blocking me did nothing to stop the Night kills. Yeah, that's not much use to you but for me it makes me question your block on Lightfoot: was there just one kill attempt last Night and you prevented it? What happened to the other kill attempt, a doc or other interfering power? Or, as I've suggested before, based on Bill's comment, was there a mass block or some other action which prevented any kills? Or is this a setup of some sort?

nice! no NK is always good but i'm baffled by the changing number of kills. i can't tell what's happening.

which post(s) set off alarm bells?

what sort of response were you looking for?

how did Archangel flip-flop on Packratter?

are you saying you blocked Guiri last Night?

eh, if you were busy blocking guiri, how do you know there were two others out on the driving range?

Bill has been very cryptic. i can't tell anymore what he's trying to say. why all the obfuscation? it wasn't this way in D1.


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it appears that guiri and Lightfoot were blocked last Night but with Bill being secretive and Archangel being "wrong" with Packratter, i'm not sure what's happening. a block and a protect is possible.

block/protect and failure to send NK orders might be a possibility. that might point to crys who has been away. could she be the final scum? it might make for a small scum team but if there's a PFK, it might be possible. that would point at Lightfoot or guiri being the other killer.

so either guiri, Lightfoot or both (or neither) could be killers. they might be a PFK, a vig or possibly scum. i wouldn't be against the lynch of either but i will



she was defensive of swammer's criticism of her votes but talked about her absence. she may well be a lone scum who TLD abandoned and has no one for support.

You may be onto something, Crys as scum or serial killer would go a long way towards explaining the death of Dizzy Ms Lizzy on Night 1, especially if Crys is SK - they had a little interaction on D1 which resulted in mutual voting and then, what I maintain was, a strange kill choice for scum.

When Packratter gave additional details of her claim (the part about the results, which could not be relied on), most people came in and weighed in. (Most people felt she was probably lying, or that she needed to be lynched anyway to find the flip at that point, and Swammerdami and I apparently believed her and switched our votes.)

Lightfoot did not comment, just left her vote down.

You MAINTAIN this was a strange kill choice for scum? Previously you were the one who pointed out that DizzyMsLizzy said "indoctrinate" and that might be the reason she was chosen to be killed.

Now, I need to note my blocking Lightfoot was not based *only* on her response to Packratter. Case coming up.