I was boxed for forgetting it was 9/11?
 

This is ridiculous. BTW, here's the response I was writing to TVeblen that I couldn't post because I had been boxed while writing it.

This isn't a shtick. I watch a lot of cartoons because I have three kids in the house, about the only thing we watch besides DVSs is PBS Kids and Qubo, and neither one of them mentioned 9/11 coming up.

It's not that I don't care about 9/11, I can remember the day it happened clearly, and how I was stunned by it and the sadness didn't hit me until two days later, when I started crying in my cubicle at work after seeing a video of people jumping from the towers. I'm just not big on remembering anniversaries and I haven't been exposed to much media to remind me that it's coming up (though my wife did mention it last night when we watched a 30 Rock episode that referenced 9/11).

Maybe Veb thought you were being ignorant to the point of trolling. I don't know. I wouldn't have boxed you, either way.

ETA: Although this post certainly isn't going to help your cause.

I did find it disrespectul to use their names like that. I had already been reminded that it was 9/11, I know full well how many people died. Bufftabby was trying to be witty, edgy, or something by posting a complete list of those who died and did it in such a sloppy way that the names were jumbled together. I think it was an exploitive, prickish, "Me too" kind of post.

Uthrecht, if you read this, that was my first assumption as well, but I remembered that the flags were only to be flown at half mast until the end of August, so I thought the post office was making a mistake or had someone who worked there die since other flags I saw were not at half-mast.

This is the not-enough-rolleyes-in-the-world crap that got you Boxed.

Blather all your want. Your shit will just be confined to the Box for a few hours instead of all over the board.

I was being a bit sarcastic there, but at the same time I did not think about today being 9/11 until I had to use the date at work. If I'd seen a flag, I probably would have assumed it was with regards to Kennedy.

So, why was I boxed, was it for forgetting it was 9/11 like Uthrecht and and john ingram, or was it for finding bufftabby's posting of all the names disrespectful?

The tag is mine. Just FTR, so as not to be accused of anonymous snark.

Nah, you got boxed because you upset the tards out there who don't realize that all this overblown over-memorializing of this day is nothing more than fodder for the fear-mongers who continue to use 9/11 for their bullshit attacks on American rights and values as well as on the nations that we just don't like much.

But then, y'know, it's okay to start bullshit wars, to lock people up in prison camps, and to destroy the entire basis of our political system because people died!!!!! And we should NEVER forget!!!!!

I'll stay in the box until they let you out, out of solidarity. If only because I, too, forgot that I'm supposed to still be attaching significance to today and because I thought that bufftabby's post was eye-rollingly exploitative.


'Course, I'm at work and off to a meeting, so it's really not much of a punishment.

Cheers!

Thanks, I'm glad I'm not the only sane person in the asylum.

Perhaps you were boxed because you asked a really really really stupid question?

You signed online when you got into work, and logged onto the Giraffe Boards yes? On virtually every single "welcome" page (whether it's the msn one, or yahoo, or aol or whatever) there's a little news section, with highlights of the days news. Rather than just read those (I'll give you an example - the one on the yahoo search page has the SECOND story about 9/11 remembrances occurring today. Oh, did I mention it's the UK yahoo page?) you decide to log in here, and take the time to post a new thread.

Gosh, I wonder ... were you expecting some kind of reaction?

ETA: it's not that you forgot the significance of today (that's understandable) but it's that you asked a stupid fucking question, and with your history, it's not difficult to suspect that you're trolling.

I totally agree with you, but I still think Badtz's constant "Who me?" bullshit is tiring. He's either a troll or he's socially clueless to the point of actual retardation.

ETA: I agree with you about the sentimentalizing, not about Badtz's motives, that is.

A thread in "Just the Facts" that asks who died, and I answered. Gee, I'm such a jerk.

Honestly? Do you really think that? Or are you winding us up?

My homepage is Google, which had nothing about it. My first stop when I got on the internet was to check Digg. I did not see any stories about a famous death (I was working under the assumption that someone important had died, which was the reason the flags were flying at half mast last time). I then came here and posted a question, figuring I'd get a speedy response.

No, it's not you. It's the hamster on your shoulder that urges you to murder.

Nah, it just whispers "shit steam pork boot".

Jesus, Veb, who lit the fuse on your tampon?

Look, I know that Badtz may be a troll at times (or may play one for LULZ) but you seem to have taken on the mantle of TubaDiva-hood in this case. BuffTabby was cutting-and-pasting for holier-than-thou-snark and frankly, Badtz was right -- she does no respect to anyone with that ill-formatted list of names.

Shit, I am agreeing with Badtz, Fuck it, I'm already in the Box

You're just making my point. Come a little closer to this wood chipper, wouldya?

I don't think the event is over-memorialized. It's the only event in history that did not directly affect me that made me cry, so obviously it's an important and emotional thing to the public, who in general are probably more emotional than I am. I forgot the anniversary, but I don't mean to speak ill of it.

Yeah, we've started some bullshit wars over it and 9/11 has been exploited repeatedly, but I still think it's worth memorializing.

I find it hard to believe you would start a thread because you saw a flag/s at half mast.

I'd just like to chime in here with my vote that this is a bullshit boxing and an abuse of Mod powers.

What's hard to believe about it? I was honestly curious, and my first cursory check of the news did not yield anything - yes, there is news about 9/11, but my mind was looking for news about recent deaths and it didn't cross my mind at the time that some were flying flags at half mast because of that.

BTW, for those who are staying in the box until I'm out, here's the timeframe:

Do I really think which? That the continued teary-eyed remembrances are the very much stuff of the wet dreams of retards who plot and take every chance they get to lead us to war with phantom enemies and expand the powers of the state at the cost of our freedoms? Hell yes I believe that.

There are plenty of worse events that have happened since 9/11!!!!!!, but let's just keep focusing on that event. Oh, and let's just ignore what it's led to, both in our country and the rest of the world, because that would take away from our special remembering time.

why was i boxed i demand an explantion

badtz what wowld you do, if you were asked to give uyp your draems for freedom

Hey, I never called for the guy's boxing, or even berated him. Excuse the shit out of me for not painstakingly adding space after space throughout a list of over 3000 names. If you don't want the answer, don't ask the fucking question. Calling it holier-than-thou snark is aggrandizing my intentions by a long shot. Literalism snark is a whole lot closer to a reasonable interpretation. FTR, I am not a member of the Let's-Jump-on-Badtz Society. If he pisses me off, I tell him so, but I don't participate or enjoy the pile-ons on him.

Are you able to separate the politicised aspect of it and understand the significance of the event, and how it personally affected so many people across the world?

Ah, you know what? I've typed out about four different responses to this, and none of them can get across what I'm trying to say, so I'm just gonna leave this.

Because you have a habit of doing things and then pretending you didn't realize it might cause a fuss OR just straight out lying (by your own admission) to get a reaction.

Thanks for not being part of the Pile On Badtz Crew, but I still feel that the list was tasteless. Someone had already answered, and had mentioned that it was over 3000 people. I knew immediately when I saw "3000 people 8 years ago" who the flags were flying at half-mast for.

Would you name some, please? I am curious to know what has happened since then that you consider worse. Natural disasters are not directed attacks on civilians.

I read it as a snarky answer to a snarky question - so I'd say you're equal on that one.

Bush's War in Iraq - which continues to this day.

You're only right if you only assume that my question was trolling, which it was not. Due to recent events, "flag at half mast" was not immediately associated with memorials for past events in my mind. I was thinking of Kennedy, but realized it shouldn't be him. I thought maybe some congressman had died or something, and figured a board with a lot of people from all over the country would be a good place to find out who.

How about the shit going down in Darfur? The guys in charge of the killing there will admit to levels of civilian deaths an order of magnitude greater than 9/11 and other estimates put it an order of magnitude higher than that.

Or how about the deaths caused by idiotic, inexcusable war in Iraq? The death toll of American servicemen alone is higher than the 9/11 count. Then you get to factor in the dead Iraqis. Hey, and as a bonus this one is directly related to 9/11...unless it isn't...but then it is again...wait, what part of the cycle are we at yet?

But hey, these things don't have a nice, neat anniversary date -- especially not such a wonderfully evocative one for the American masses -- so it's easy to ignore them.

Your response to bufftabby's list of names, coming on the heels of your OP, read to me as textbook trolling. Textbook to the point of cliche. Sure, maybe it was all a big misunderstanding and you are completely innocent, but I doubt it. I tend to take an Occam's Razor approach to trolling -- while one can construct complicated explanations for how someone could have accidentally posted a series of troll-like posts, it's far more likely that they were just trolling and are now at stage 2, Protesting One's Innocence.

If you are in fact 100% innocent, chalk it up as an unfortunate misunderstanding.

I recall watching the Katrina disaster unfold on TV, with much of the same feeling as watching the towers fall: disbelief that it could be happening. And impotent anger at the government for failing to act.

Prior to 9/11 I watched as the Branch Davidian compound was burned to the ground. Again, disbelief followed by impotent anger.

Had I been alive, I'd probably feel the same about Dec 7, 1941.

I think Badtz should be unboxed. I think any other poster could have posted this, and wouldn't have gotten penalized. I have my suspicions as to whether this was a genuine question, but that's it--just suspicions. I don't think it's serious enough to warrant a boxing. Whoever thinks it's trolling can ignore it--or engage him, if that's your style--and anyone who believes his question was asked in good faith can see that it's been thoroughly answered.

And so do you. Many times.

I also didn't know that it was 9/11.

I also thought it was disrespectful and unnecessary of bufftabby to cut/paste the names like that.

I'd like to add to this statement.

If you are in fact 100% innocent, consider it late punishment for the other times you trolled GB.

What's interesting is that the lead story on the news that I've just watched* has actually spoken about 9/11 as being a way of remembering anyone who has died as a result of conflict - be they soldier, civillian, innocent or guilty. I think that was my gut reaction to your post - it's a day to remember those who died, not a day to politicise events. The rest of the year can be used for that.

*ITN if anyone's interested!

My takeaway from this event Badtz is that you have a shorter leash to play than other folks. I'm of course assuming that, had I done the sequence of events you're saying you did, up to responding to buff's literalism snark, that I would not have been boxed. Which could be in error, of course.

It sounds like you might want to check with the mods to see what it would take to rehabilitate your reputation. There might be some kind of work-release program available.

Please point me to the threads where I have lied to get a reaction to people.

Please point me to the threads where my actions could be called trolling.

Some folks get an early start on that: cf. Glenn Beck and his 9/12 project.

Anyways, it's a 4 hour boxing for god's sake ... it's not like anyone died :innocent:





I await my own boxing with some excitement :meek:

This is a joke, right? You can't possibly take this shit that seriously. Can you?

Sorry... showing my ignorance, I've heard the name, but I have no idea who Glenn Beck is, or what he does (I could search, but I'm guessing I may not want to!).

I would like to participate in and enjoy the pile-on on her.

I'm really not sure quite how to take that!!!! :dubious: :D