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Red Skeezix 11th October 2022 04:13 PM

Masks at Midnight - Night 0
 
It was a crisp autumn night in Dunwich, MA. The townsfolk had gathered at the local parish for for a meeting to discuss preparations for the upcoming halloween and harvest dance. The sign-in sheet indicated that:
  1. Meeko
  2. Mahaloth
  3. guiri
  4. Colby11
  5. Bashorian Clement
  6. Bicycle Repair Man
  7. TexCat
  8. raventhief
  9. Pleonast
  10. Mordenkainen
  11. Lightfoot

Were present that evening.

The wind began to howl, and rotten branches of an old oak tree banged against the roof of the weathered chapel. With a crack, the lights flickered and then went out. Thus began the first night of the rest of their very short lives.



It is now night zero. PMs are going out presently. If you have a night action please send it to me upon receipt of your PM. Otherwise, you may begin strategizing and Day 1 will begin at 8pm ET on October 12th, 2022.

Red Skeezix 11th October 2022 04:31 PM

All PMs have gone out, feel free to confirm receipt here or start it up.

Meeko 11th October 2022 04:33 PM



Lock and load.

Confirming.

LightFoot 11th October 2022 05:08 PM

I am not sure how this is going to work- but I can confirm - my existence

Bashorian Clement 11th October 2022 05:41 PM

Could there be multiples of the same role?

LightFoot 11th October 2022 05:44 PM

we have 17 possible Town roles
11 total players
I started trying to breakdown the role meanings and decided it is folly

Scum possible 5 roles same.

If there is claiming maybe there can be POE logic

Red Skeezix 11th October 2022 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement (Post 1778238)
Could there be multiples of the same role?

No Comment

LightFoot 11th October 2022 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Skeezix (Post 1778240)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement (Post 1778238)
Could there be multiples of the same role?

No Comment

BALLS

raventhief 11th October 2022 06:15 PM

I am here... But about Day1...


Day 1 will begin at 8pm ET on October 11th, 2022.. wasn't that two hours ago?

LightFoot 11th October 2022 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raventhief (Post 1778249)
I am here... But about Day1...


Day 1 will begin at 8pm ET on October 11th, 2022.. wasn't that two hours ago?


ARG
I am going to bed

Red Skeezix 11th October 2022 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raventhief (Post 1778249)
I am here... But about Day1...


Day 1 will begin at 8pm ET on October 11th, 2022.. wasn't that two hours ago?

Correction. October 12th. Whoops.

TexCat 11th October 2022 06:43 PM

PM received. I've got a role and am ready to play.

Pleonast 11th October 2022 07:08 PM

Chew on this, scumbos: I’m a Private Eye.

Pleonast 11th October 2022 07:09 PM

And I’m going to only vote players who haven’t made a specific claim.

Colby11 11th October 2022 07:16 PM

Serious question- pizza or bread?

PM received

Red Skeezix 11th October 2022 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colby11 (Post 1778257)
Serious question- pizza or bread?

PM received

yes

Bicycle Repair Man 11th October 2022 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleonast (Post 1778256)
And I’m going to only vote players who haven’t made a specific claim.

What if they all claim?

Meeko 11th October 2022 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleonast (Post 1778256)
And I’m going to only vote players who haven’t made a specific claim.

For as famous [Donkey Kong Country, Goldeneye 007, Killer Instinct, Battletoads, Wizards and Warriors] and infamous [Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Beetlejuice, Silent Service] as video game company Rare [Rareware] was, I claim that the music they made was a thousand times better, and yes, they should have been in the record industry, exclusively.

guiri 12th October 2022 12:17 AM

Confirming receipt of PM!

Bashorian Clement 12th October 2022 12:31 AM

P
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bicycle Repair Man (Post 1778261)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleonast (Post 1778256)
And I’m going to only vote players who haven’t made a specific claim.



What if they all claim?

Who is this they you speak of?

Mordenkainen 12th October 2022 03:21 AM

Have received PM.

The likelihood of all of us specifically claiming so as to foil Pleo's plan is as close to zero as makes no difference. The futility of herding cats applies.

Bicycle Repair Man 12th October 2022 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement (Post 1778269)
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bicycle Repair Man (Post 1778261)



What if they all claim?

Who is this they you speak of?

The other players who may or may not claim. Who is the you that speaks of the you and the they?

Bicycle Repair Man 12th October 2022 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mordenkainen (Post 1778273)
Have received PM.

The likelihood of all of us specifically claiming so as to foil Pleo's plan is as close to zero as makes no difference. The futility of herding cats applies.

I am not so sure about that.

Pleonast 12th October 2022 03:30 AM

Death doesn’t reveal anything, but dead players have a vote and can still provide information. That radically changes the decision between claiming and not claiming.

I don’t expect everyone to claim while alive, so they can claim when dead. Let’s speed up that process.

Bicycle Repair Man 12th October 2022 03:48 AM

I claim I am not rich. I claim I am not poor. I have a wife, a dog and a house. And I claim that I want no more.

Meeko 12th October 2022 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleonast (Post 1778276)
Death doesn’t reveal anything, but dead players have a vote and can still provide information. That radically changes the decision between claiming and not claiming.

I don’t expect everyone to claim while alive, so they can claim when dead. Let’s speed up that process.


What's the town motivation in wanting everyone dead?

Pleonast 12th October 2022 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meeko (Post 1778279)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleonast (Post 1778276)
Death doesn’t reveal anything, but dead players have a vote and can still provide information. That radically changes the decision between claiming and not claiming.

I don’t expect everyone to claim while alive, so they can claim when dead. Let’s speed up that process.


What's the town motivation in wanting everyone dead?

Town needs information to win, scum want to stop town from getting information. Players who give specific information are more likely to be town, because they are actually helping town. Players who don't want to give specific information are more likely to be scum, because they are actually helping scum.

A player can be coy if they want, but in this game, where there are no death reveals, all they are doing is delaying town from getting information. We won't learn who's scum by executing anyone. We have to figure out who's scum by putting together our puzzle pieces--which we only discover when players make specific claims.

Pleonast 12th October 2022 05:18 AM

For those opposed to making specific claims, they need to describe exactly how they think town is going to win this game by players not making specific claims.

Meeko 12th October 2022 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleonast (Post 1778283)
For those opposed to making specific claims, they need to describe exactly how they think town is going to win this game by players not making specific claims.



I don't have time for this. Yet again.

You can't take game hostage.

Claiming on day 1 is your thing. It's not ours.

More importantly, it's not this game's thing, either.

Play this game. Not yours.

And this is NAI. Just the same as all claims ate bound to be also.

guiri 12th October 2022 06:33 AM

I’m not opposed to making specific claims, but each player can decide when the time is right.

Pleonast 12th October 2022 06:47 AM

Meeko, describe to us how you see town winning this game.

Pleonast 12th October 2022 06:48 AM

guiri, my point is that if some players decide "I'll make a specific claim after I'm dead", it's better for us to make it so.

Meeko 12th October 2022 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleonast (Post 1778294)
Meeko, describe to us how you see town winning this game.

Suffice to say, both this, and your other demand that we claim on your speed and terms, both amount to the same fishing expedition.

Bicycle Repair Man 12th October 2022 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meeko (Post 1778317)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleonast (Post 1778294)
Meeko, describe to us how you see town winning this game.

Suffice to say, both this, and your other demand that we claim on your speed and terms, both amount to the same fishing expedition.

I think anybody and everybody should be discussing how we can win the game rather than leaving it to luck.

Pleonast 12th October 2022 08:52 AM

Meeko, of course I'm fishing! The only information we get this game is from what players claim. The regular default plan of "execute players we think are scum and see what is revealed" is not possible this game. I've provided an alternative. If you're unhappy with my plan, give the other players a better one.

Meeko 12th October 2022 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleonast (Post 1778322)
Meeko, of course I'm fishing! The only information we get this game is from what players claim. The regular default plan of "execute players we think are scum and see what is revealed" is not possible this game. I've provided an alternative. If you're unhappy with my plan, give the other players a better one.

At least you admit it.

For the second half... Would you settle for an Unvote instead?


guiri 12th October 2022 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleonast (Post 1778295)
guiri, my point is that if some players decide "I'll make a specific claim after I'm dead", it's better for us to make it so.

I get your point.

There are so many roles. Everyone is free to do as they see fit but some roles do lend themselves to claiming early while others don't.

I guess Gossip and Innkeepeer could claim the role D1, and then use their info to confirm/disprove one of the three players' claims, they are effectively vanilla after D1 besides this info, and can use the info even when dead. For the Gossip, sharing that 1 of those roles are in play is strongly pro-town.
Private Eye and Janitor. similar, good to know one, and how many scum roles are n the game.
Therapist too.
Seer and Mortician should hold their claim, unless there's evidence of a Priest.
Priest and Veteran should not claim.
Harbinger, Politician, Servant no pressing need to claim.
Vigilante effectively claims when using power.
Patsy cannot claim... unless the Gossip helps them deduce their role, or they do it themselves based on their false role info
White Rose should claim, or at least when there's a whiff of yeet pressure.
And I think best practice is for any miller to claim asap, but don't remember if it's auto-vig, or if there is some other strategy to differentiate a true miller from a false-claiming scum.
Clearly the cult leader and publicist should claim asap N0. The Acolyte, Spy and Financier should wait till after EoD D1.

Colby11 12th October 2022 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meeko (Post 1778267)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleonast (Post 1778256)
And I’m going to only vote players who haven’t made a specific claim.

For as famous [Donkey Kong Country, Goldeneye 007, Killer Instinct, Battletoads, Wizards and Warriors] and infamous [Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Beetlejuice, Silent Service] as video game company Rare [Rareware] was, I claim that the music they made was a thousand times better, and yes, they should have been in the record industry, exclusively.

Donkey Kong Country 2 was my jam growing up… finally beat the entire thing too after several months (when I was 12-ish)

Meeko 12th October 2022 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colby11 (Post 1778434)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Meeko (Post 1778267)

For as famous [Donkey Kong Country, Goldeneye 007, Killer Instinct, Battletoads, Wizards and Warriors] and infamous [Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Beetlejuice, Silent Service] as video game company Rare [Rareware] was, I claim that the music they made was a thousand times better, and yes, they should have been in the record industry, exclusively.

Donkey Kong Country 2 was my jam growing up… finally beat the entire thing too after several months (when I was 12-ish)

I don't see any form of a denial here, that the music was in truth, marginally to just slightly more than marginally, better than the gameplay. better than the gameplay.

Meeko 12th October 2022 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colby11 (Post 1778434)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Meeko (Post 1778267)

For as famous [Donkey Kong Country, Goldeneye 007, Killer Instinct, Battletoads, Wizards and Warriors] and infamous [Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Beetlejuice, Silent Service] as video game company Rare [Rareware] was, I claim that the music they made was a thousand times better, and yes, they should have been in the record industry, exclusively.

Donkey Kong Country 2 was my jam growing up… finally beat the entire thing too after several months (when I was 12-ish)

I had Goldeneye on the living room tv, would do that until I had to run out to the school bus.

Meeko 12th October 2022 03:38 PM



1. I can't vote at night. No one can. Silly Meeko!

2. Completely forgot about the entire nominating thing.




But seriously. Pleonast, The fact that voting has a detour for this game, were you aware of this detour in the voting vis a vis nominations, as you posted for your claims?

Pleonast 12th October 2022 04:13 PM

Yes, I've been trying to understand the rules. Note my comment in the sign-up thread.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleonast (Post 1777747)
Potential exploit: players who can post the soonest will have an advantage.

I assumed you were intentionally making an uncounted vote, like I often do.

Red Skeezix 12th October 2022 04:15 PM

Day 1 has started. Thread is up.


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