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The Mighty Quinn 10th April 2023 07:56 AM

Cheap Beer Mafia -- Day One
 
Because why not? None of you are very good, a few are decent value for the money...but two are truly vile. Can you detect and pour out the interlopers not even worthy to be in this cooler of modestly priced beverages?

ON DRAFT

Mahaloth
Plumpudding
Pleonast
Vanta Black
Sea Serpent
guiri (although his avatar is way too upscale)
Kaiveran
Mendie Taoma
LightFoot

Here is the Vanilla Town PM:

Quote:

Welcome to the game, you are a mildly off-tasting but generally tolerable light lager...Vanilla Town
Supermajority hammer is in effect; if 2/3 of living players are ever voting for the same player (so, 6 Today) the Day will end immediately. Don't post screenshots...you all know the drill.

All role PMs have been sent. Day One ends at 2 pm US Central time (1 pm Eastern) Friday, April 14.

GO!

guiri 10th April 2023 11:10 AM

PM received. Do I really need to change my avatar?

Can we multi-vote?

Vanta Black 10th April 2023 11:42 AM

I don't think you need to change your avatar, but then, I can't read it except that it appears to be...beer.

Meanwhile I am torn. Kind of inclined to vote Kaiveran in lieu of punching them, 'cause I'm too far away to do that, but also casting evil looks at Mahaloth and Sea Serpent. Yeah, it's a grudge. Yeah, I should drop it. Maybe tomorrow.

The Mighty Quinn 10th April 2023 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guiri (Post 1795513)
PM received. Do I really need to change my avatar?

Can we multi-vote?

No, of course you don't have to change your avatar.

No multi-voting.

Sea Serpent 10th April 2023 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanta Black (Post 1795515)
I don't think you need to change your avatar, but then, I can't read it except that it appears to be...beer.

Meanwhile I am torn. Kind of inclined to vote Kaiveran in lieu of punching them, 'cause I'm too far away to do that, but also casting evil looks at Mahaloth and Sea Serpent. Yeah, it's a grudge. Yeah, I should drop it. Maybe tomorrow.

Hey I didn't do anything last game but try and get everyone to win. Sorry it didn't work out but the scaly one here is not deserving of malice.

Mahaloth 10th April 2023 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanta Black (Post 1795515)
Meanwhile I am torn. Kind of inclined to vote Kaiveran in lieu of punching them, 'cause I'm too far away to do that, but also casting evil looks at Mahaloth and Sea Serpent. Yeah, it's a grudge. Yeah, I should drop it. Maybe tomorrow.

That's fair, but what did Sea Serpent do?

Pleonast 10th April 2023 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guiri (Post 1795513)
PM received. Do I really need to change my avatar?

No, of course not, I highly encourage scum to claim by drinking the wrong beer.

[joke-vote]guiri[/joke-vote]

Pleonast 10th April 2023 05:00 PM

What power does the Town Cop have?

Sea Serpent 10th April 2023 05:01 PM

Sea Serpent


Some of us are very good.

The Mighty Quinn 10th April 2023 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleonast (Post 1795548)
What power does the Town Cop have?

The usual; each Night, they may investigate a player and learn their alignment.

Mendie Taoma 10th April 2023 07:52 PM

Confirming.

Any chance at some potato skins?

Mendie Taoma 10th April 2023 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Serpent (Post 1795549)
Sea Serpent


Some of us are very good.

I actually had Mead [Monk's Mead - An Atlanta Microbrew] for the first time, like two weeks ago. I don't need to know certain things exist.

Mendie Taoma 10th April 2023 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma (Post 1795559)
Confirming.

Any chance at some potato skins?

Wait, What do you mean, it's been exactly one year ago?

https://www.giraffeboards.com/showth...ns#post1752853

:rebo:

Plumpudding 10th April 2023 10:08 PM

pm received. Off to work. See ya later.

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 04:08 AM

I'm gonna continue my iron-clad case from the lottery thread.



:sherlock::tongue::astonished:

Kaiveran 11th April 2023 04:40 AM

Well...this took off quickly!

Let me find a suitable game-specific representation of myself...

Kaiveran 11th April 2023 05:04 AM

Ahh, there we go.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mighty Quinn (Post 1795468)
Can you detect and pour out the interlopers not even worthy to be in this cooler of modestly priced beverages?

Easy; it's anything with "pale ale" in the name. :haw:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanta Black (Post 1795515)
I don't think you need to change your avatar, but then, I can't read it except that it appears to be...beer.

Meanwhile I am torn. Kind of inclined to vote Kaiveran in lieu of punching them, 'cause I'm too far away to do that, but also casting evil looks at Mahaloth and Sea Serpent. Yeah, it's a grudge. Yeah, I should drop it. Maybe tomorrow.

Wasn't it always Guinness until recently?

Still, regardless of whether you drop it or not, I humbly suggest that you leave Sea Serpent out of it. They stuck to the plan and were the very picture of a level-headed mediating party until the bitter end. If anything it's a smidgen my fault for getting psyched-out last minute, and the lion's share of the blame goes to Maha for being a backstabbing scumbag after I refused to.

In fact, lettuce break the ice by revenge piling on him for funsies.



Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mighty Quinn (Post 1795517)
Quote:

Originally Posted by guiri (Post 1795513)
PM received. Do I really need to change my avatar?

Can we multi-vote?

No, of course you don't have to change your avatar.

No multi-voting.

Hmmph.

Currently pressing X to doubt that guiri would legit consider the possibility multi-voting in a bog-standard Cop 9p.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Serpent (Post 1795534)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanta Black (Post 1795515)
I don't think you need to change your avatar, but then, I can't read it except that it appears to be...beer.

Meanwhile I am torn. Kind of inclined to vote Kaiveran in lieu of punching them, 'cause I'm too far away to do that, but also casting evil looks at Mahaloth and Sea Serpent. Yeah, it's a grudge. Yeah, I should drop it. Maybe tomorrow.

Hey I didn't do anything last game but try and get everyone to win. Sorry it didn't work out but the scaly one here is not deserving of malice.

QED.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Serpent (Post 1795549)
Sea Serpent


Some of us are very good.

I'm liking this slithery dude again already.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma (Post 1795561)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma (Post 1795559)
Confirming.

Any chance at some potato skins?

Wait, What do you mean, it's been exactly one year ago?

https://www.giraffeboards.com/showth...ns#post1752853

:rebo:

Jeez, time flies when you're having fun, huh? I've certainly been having it here. I really should read over Margaritaville in full one of these days cuz it looked like a gas.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plumpudding (Post 1795569)
I'm gonna continue my iron-clad case from the lottery thread.



:sherlock::tongue::astonished:

Cute. (Like me!)

I will let my inadvertent support for you stand for now. Subject to change with actual in-game post-role-distribution content.

–––

I would lecture about Cop Cover but that won't become relevant until D2, so whatev, Bev.

Now if you'll excuse me, I want to make at least something productive happen today. Yesterday I had some leftover Easter Lamb Stew that might've sat in Mom's crock-pot a little too long and the associated tummy troubles robbed me of any drive. Today is another and thankfully much better day.

Pleonast 11th April 2023 06:05 AM

I'm looking through the chances of multiple scenarios. Too much math to post here, but our overall chances of winning is roughly one-third, assuming optimal play by all players. Mostly likely play-out of the game is we execute two Townies in the first two Days, investigator reveals a scum on Day Three, and we have 2 Town vs 1 Scum on Day Four. That's basically a 50-50 shot at that point.

We're basically in end-game right now, but without the accumulation of information from earlier parts in the game. Small games are inherently difficult to balance.

Having multi-vote would help us out. Even if we can't officially do it, we can still state who our second vote would be. However we do it, we need to vote off players that most Townies think should be voted off. That is, allowing scum to affect our vote is especially bad (since we're at end game).

Sea Serpent 11th April 2023 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleonast (Post 1795589)
I'm looking through the chances of multiple scenarios. Too much math to post here, but our overall chances of winning is roughly one-third, assuming optimal play by all players. Mostly likely play-out of the game is we execute two Townies in the first two Days, investigator reveals a scum on Day Three, and we have 2 Town vs 1 Scum on Day Four. That's basically a 50-50 shot at that point.

We're basically in end-game right now, but without the accumulation of information from earlier parts in the game. Small games are inherently difficult to balance.

Having multi-vote would help us out. Even if we can't officially do it, we can still state who our second vote would be. However we do it, we need to vote off players that most Townies think should be voted off. That is, allowing scum to affect our vote is especially bad (since we're at end game).

Isn't that what we always do?

Mendie Taoma 11th April 2023 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleonast (Post 1795589)
assuming optimal play by all players.

Snipped to hell and back.

Assuming optimal play.

I should try that some time.

.... Assuming it I mean.

Because "optimal play" is not going to happen. Some might cite Perfect Information Syndrome here.

Mendie Taoma 11th April 2023 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Serpent (Post 1795590)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleonast (Post 1795589)
I'm looking through the chances of multiple scenarios. Too much math to post here, but our overall chances of winning is roughly one-third, assuming optimal play by all players. Mostly likely play-out of the game is we execute two Townies in the first two Days, investigator reveals a scum on Day Three, and we have 2 Town vs 1 Scum on Day Four. That's basically a 50-50 shot at that point.

We're basically in end-game right now, but without the accumulation of information from earlier parts in the game. Small games are inherently difficult to balance.

Having multi-vote would help us out. Even if we can't officially do it, we can still state who our second vote would be. However we do it, we need to vote off players that most Townies think should be voted off. That is, allowing scum to affect our vote is especially bad (since we're at end game).

Isn't that what we always do?

Sounds too much like work.

Mahaloth 11th April 2023 06:30 AM

Here is my OMGUS vote on Kai, though you may wonder why Kai and not plum. I presume plum is joking.


Pleonast 11th April 2023 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Serpent (Post 1795590)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleonast (Post 1795589)
Having multi-vote would help us out. Even if we can't officially do it, we can still state who our second vote would be. However we do it, we need to vote off players that most Townies think should be voted off. That is, allowing scum to affect our vote is especially bad (since we're at end game).

Isn't that what we always do?

Maybe by the end of the game, but very rarely at the beginning. And even though we're effectively at the end the game, it's only Day One.

I'll also note that some players still push back against multi-vote, even so far as to avoid giving any hint on their second vote choice. That is especially detrimental in this game.

Oh, and speaking of voting systems, the insta-hammer rule puts an additional hurdle for Town to overcome. We can't just throw out votes, because a vote could end the Day. Both the numbers-balance and the voting system work against us this game.

For better balance, I think I would've added a Scotsman-type role, who could survive one execution or kill. That'd bring the odds closer to even, rather than 1-to-2 against us.

Mahaloth 11th April 2023 08:25 AM

Hey, look, a knee-jerk reaction from me totally uncalled for.

I'm Vanilla Town, not a power role. Yes, I claimed way to early when pressure wasn't even mounting.

Mendie Taoma 11th April 2023 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahaloth (Post 1795593)
Here is my OMGUS vote on Kai, though you may wonder why Kai and not plum. I presume plum is joking.

[vote]Vote Kaiveran[vote]

I just feel like, all we ever do, is vote Kai.

Then again, ey have been scum, .... a metric ton. Like 6 times in eir 5 games with us?

Mahaloth 11th April 2023 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma (Post 1795600)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahaloth (Post 1795593)
Here is my OMGUS vote on Kai, though you may wonder why Kai and not plum. I presume plum is joking.

[vote]Vote Kaiveran[vote]

I just feel like, all we ever do, is vote Kai.

Then again, ey have been scum, .... a metric ton. Like 6 times in eir 5 games with us?

Killing him won the game for me just a few days ago. However, I have no real idea and my vote is mainly reactionary.

guiri 11th April 2023 12:44 PM

The question about my avatar was a joke… it’s still Guinness with a seasonal touch. The multi-vote was serious, since it wasn’t mentioned in the rules.

I get the grudge vote on Mahaloth, fully understand the sentiment, but it’s a mafioso’s nature to double-cross and backstab.

I don’t get why Vanta included Sea Serpent either.

I’m supportive of stating my second vote preference - it’s pretty common to state who else you’d be willing to execute, but unsure about the last part of Pleo’s suggestion… is it that we should change our vote to pile onto the generally most suspected player, even if they’re not our first preference?

Mendie Taoma 11th April 2023 01:33 PM

1. I was more or less working on the assumption that all current votes on players in this game, were one flavor or another of "joke" vote.

2. Grudges are bad, mmmkay? /Mr.Garrison

3. Like, and I think moreso under my Meeko account than Mendie's, grudges left me with a lot of feel bads.

3.1 I'm not sure if I forgot, repressed, or flat out don't want to 'go there' again. C.F. me sitting out the past game.

3.2 it's probably all of the above reasons in 3.1

4. In Truth, however, (shit. Can I say in truth? Is that a slip? Is calling it out the slip) ... Part of me wants to vote Kai. Because well. Track record.

5. No vote currently on anyone.

5.1 Not necessarily ruling out votes on anyone either.

5.2 Early days.

6. I'm not sure I've played in too many C7 (is ir?) Dirt simple games.

6.1 I'm not sure how much energy (and where) to give a simpler game.

Mendie Taoma 11th April 2023 01:39 PM

7. Is my "I'm Mobile." Showing ?

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 02:07 PM

Pleo is being pleo but hammer point valind

Just got back from bandprstice so a bit drunk.

Maha vote was of course a joke...

I'm not much of a meta person... But, IT'S BEEN A WHILE! Who'ls who andstuff.

?

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 02:09 PM

I've been and an still drinking kinda cheap and not very tasty but still passable beer my dad gave me. It's also a bit warm.

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 02:11 PM

I'm gonna because they are online and I want soimeone to talk to.

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 02:13 PM

Anyway, since we're off topic

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 02:19 PM

I disagree with you plum! I think mendie has been perfectly reasonable all game so far.

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 02:20 PM

Aha! Scum defens! Or can you in ANY WAY explain how mendia has been not scum!?

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 02:23 PM

Chill down! Still early game yo! Mendie has been chill and cool. Good reason for not being scum I think.

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 02:25 PM

I'm not sure I buy that argument, but okay. Since hammer I'll

Still a ping though....:cookiemonster:

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 02:27 PM

I think we should vote LightFoot. No reason.


Mendie Taoma 11th April 2023 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plumpudding (Post 1795645)
I'm gonna [vote]Mendie Taoma[vote] because they are online and I want soimeone to talk to.

Online. And On The Clock. Mobile.

If you want to wade through all of that, go ahead.

As for me, I will, as I can.

Also, not sure if you were asking directly or not, I also have the username Meeko. If that clarifies anything?

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 03:01 PM

Cool!

Who's sea seprent?

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 03:03 PM

Kaiveran an d vanta black?

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 03:03 PM

Man I miss sock games...

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 03:05 PM

Who caresn abopout meta, right? Ik am sockm iomk a sockl!

I'm not sure I like this. There's something fishy here…

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 03:07 PM

The tide turns!


Plumpudding 11th April 2023 03:08 PM

Is that illegal?

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 03:12 PM

Yeah mendie I'm kinda gvet drunk a d J and then I start. Analalyzinfng

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 03:13 PM

And I think Maha is on th block

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 03:13 PM

But guiri9 is pleasant. thats not good?

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 03:14 PM

and lighfoot is silent. hmmm.-

Plumpudding 11th April 2023 03:14 PM

and who is sea serpent ffs


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