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Old 9th August 2015, 05:02 AM
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I'd spoiler all this, but no.

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My list of villagers, based on one hour of effort.

1) Askthepizzaguy, and it should be rather obvious to all of you by now. Sooh hasn't known me that long and she has picked up on it pretty hard.

Reason: I went way outside my normal hurr hurr I'm scum and it was mostly all I talked about day one, and it was in good humor. And it served a pro-town purpose, it got people accusing and stirring and commenting. Plus I don't go this far against the grain as scum, I'm more of a judo champion as scum than a sumo wrestler who forces everyone to agree or makes a big shoving match about it. I opposed too many people's opinions and denounced too many actions here.

I could also have invented even ONE reason to think Zeener was scum to justify moving to him. Please. I'm the expert at that as scum.

I can find the Virgin Mother to be whorish if you give me a scum role, I'll find all the evidence to support it and you'll stone her to death, guaranteed. Me voting Zeener based on nothing but "lulz is town" is why I'm town.

If that's not good enough then you still can't read me and that's fine! That's how I liked it, and it's also just how it should be. Mwa, ha, ha. Etc. Moustache. Evil. Distinguished.

2) Lulz

Because he isn't an unserious trollish mafia player like you folks seem to think he is. I've seen none of that elsewhere. So he's just different, and different is something you can generally control.

You know how I suddenly look a lot less scummy and a lot more agreeable and more rational and fun to be around.... when I'm a scumbag?

That.

That's people knowing what not to say and what not to do when they're scum.

Lulz has demonstrated zero of that and I know he's capable of it because he's not a noob and he has crossed several cultural borders, so he'd know to be extra sensitive to your sensibilities here if he were scum.
He'd also be less vocal about calling out so many people. It's just disastrous for his survival. He's a villager, so get the heck off of him tomorrow. I mean it.

Need more evidence, look at his conviction about Zeener being scummy. Scums don't like to bury their credibility so early, and this was from earlier in the round than his imminent death. See 180.

I think Lulz is correct you'll find scum inside Lightfoot, Guiri, and Mahaloth. Not all, but at least one.

I am not sucking up to Lulz. He can find me scummy all day and lynch me like a big fat silly banana. He's just not scum and he's wrong about me being scum. Like a few of you, except some of you are scum.

3) Sooh

Because of the no-vote day one after all the work she did.

She is rapidly becoming an insanely good mafia player because she is capable of fooling me as scum now and she's also become quite adept at reading me, of all people. She kind of puts you guys to shame on that, having nabbed me almost every time I've been scum.

She's been scum enough and seen ME be scum enough that she knows not to no-vote on Day One, especially after I prompted her to vote.

Why because it sticks out. Because it will become the basis of votes in her direction in the future. It already stuck out and people commented on it. And she's not unaware of why that's something to avoid as scum.

So she decided to do that for a different purpose than avoiding suspicion or playing the diplomatic game.

She must have thought it was the best decision for town.

That decision is, uniquely, and for this purpose and this analysis only, a villager tell from Sooh. And unfortunately that's going to result in people reading her wrong, again why I warned her off of doing so.

My fingers are crossed on that assessment, because I do not believe I can say she's villager with supreme confidence anymore. But I still am saying she's a villager. Let's see if I can improve my guess the Sooh record.

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4) BillMc- doesn't really have a reason for doing what he did as scum unless both were villagers. But even then.... that's ballsy.

It's not solid, I wouldn't put BillMc out of his scum range entirely for that move but it feels like he was attempting to make a choice to help his own investigation and also he seemed to want to see what I would do.

He's coming to a lot of incorrect conclusions but I can follow why he is. I think he needs to adjust his scumdar to account for the fact that I don't play on such a basic level as scum and my village game is really weird looking and looks scummy as hell.

Ask Giraffe. Poor bastard always thinks I'm scum because it's the only way he can't get fooled by me. Results in more mislynches than successes but hey, at least he can say I didn't fool him I guess.

5) Double A- To be clear, it's not outside his scum meta to not give two shits.

He's done that A LOT as scum. I'm just saying I still get the villa vibes from him.

Buuuut if you wanted to take a peek at him I wouldn't mind.

It would always stop a mislynch this game or nab a scum, so that's a great peek.

And turning him into a murder target instead of a mislynch is still amazing for village even if that's a "wasted" peek because he died, so I feel zero remorse for saying peek Double A and then he dies by murder. Better than the alternatives.

207 looks villagery from Double A.

6) DizzyMrsLizzy- her angst versus lulz feels genuine and her delivery does as well. See 149 and 150, that rings villagery.

Like, really villagery. Not good villaging, but still villagery. Super villagery.

In fact why is she green? She could probably be blue.

I just feel like our brain waves are too disparate for me to read her solidly.

7) Meeko a little bit villagery. It's vague, because it's based on so much fluff. But he lacks an agenda so much that I think he's someone on the town side who dislikes the role he's been randed and is just here to socialize. This can reverse but I see no reason to go there yet.



Some neutralish comments-

Archangel versus Guiri, I would look into that. Arch looks good if Guiri is bad, and vice-versa. See 174.

Drink's vote in 205 could be legit, but it also feels like too much justification. An attempt to make a defensible, yet incorrect vote.



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Okay opinions on the other side


SisterCoyote, particularly post 49 and 99. Both feel bad to me, meaning not villagery.

I am willing to give her all the space in the world for her real life struggles, but that doesn't invalidate my read on her as not being a villager yet.

I don't buy her suspicions at all.



Guiri. 197 felt terrible. I think bill and mine's reaction to end of day was villagery, Guiri's was not that good. It also wasn't the scummiest thing that happened this game by a long shot. But there's suspicion there.

For all the terribleness of 197, 199 felt better. I'm waffling here, but then...

222 feels pretty rough. Guiri is too good, and posts like this make me feel like he's scummy. 223 feels like the kind of stuff he'd toss at Sooh if he were scum.'

227 he's telegraphing that he will break the tie so the scums get their lynch on a townie, and therefore, that both lulz and Zeener were townies, if he is scum. By the way.

I was literally doing nothing until BillMc's vote at 5:59. I was okay with the tie.

Guiri was not expecting BillMc's move and he was responding to me. That was Guiri breaking the tie, but instead re-establishing it by mistake. Then I broke it with my deliberate response to BillMc, trying to re-establish the tie.

That's how it went down and that's what needs to be looked at soon.

Lightfoot a little bit, because I feel none of her suspicions are being directed correctly. Also her call about BillMc feels like she knows he's a villager. I don't trust that call coming from someone besides me. 148 feels too crowd-controllish.

210 feels much more prescient of the impending end of round than a villager normally would be. I sure as hell wasn't aware it was about to end. Also more concerned about the No Lynch rules than a villager should be.

It hadn't even crossed my mind that there was a tie in progress or how it would resolve until she posted that.

Scathach the scumbag who has to die very soon. So scummy she made me move my very serious vote on BillMc off of BillMc. And I'm glad she did.

All of her posts reek. Literally, all of them. Super bad. 151 is essentially a howl. 157 is the kind of stuff scum think of to accuse villagers. Attacking a villager's thinking process when it's completely normal for them, because it isn't 100 percent logical, systematic, or thorough.

UGH.

How you didn't lynch Scathach day one is beyond my mortal comprehension. Please get your act together and end her immediately day 2.



Everyone else I did not mention has a neutral lean, meaning no lean. I can't see why you're a villager except that it is mathematically likely that you are, especially if I'm correct about several scums. But you could be because you've done nothing outside of what scums can do and have not established yourselves. Get on the ball and lynch my red, and then we'll discuss my orange. Assist me.
For my villagers, I pointed to specific posts, specific behaviors and said why I think they are a bad lynch.

For my suspects, I pointed you to specific posts and said why it isn't villagery.

Day three, whenever it is convenient for you, you can either do the same, or you can be set on fire and hurled into the river of death.

And that's not a scare tactic. It's not terrorism. That's a very reasonable expectation in a game of suspicion where there are a group of people who want to make everyone else die.

It's not over the top, either.

Why is it necessary to have to badger people to provide content?

When you're a villager, you have to provide your actual thoughts and put in effort to solve the game. You cannot just float by like a piece of driftwood.

When you're a scumbag, you certainly can, because you can solve the game at night, with murders. You don't need anyone else's permission and you have no need to build consensus. You can just lean on the ropes.

The people who are providing no content, drifting through each round of the game not being dynamic, and are making no serious effort to convince people to lynch their suspects, but are content to vote for them, those are the scumbags.


Update: Archangel is looking pretty good right now.