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My change (I was leaning toward Sanders until very recently) is that Sanders's supporters keep repeating lies about Hillary. No, she did not win the "six coin flips in a row" in Iowa (That was cherry picked: there were about a dozen delegates chosen that way, and she got six of them).
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That sounds like a bunch of people spouting off because they were upset with the unofficial nature of the Iowa caucuses. Also, that's only one single point on which you can say his supporters "lie" about Hillary? It's tenuous at best to say it was calling Hillary a liar and realistically the whole coin flip thing didn't even last one news cycle. Just a bunch of butthurt youngsters who didn't get what they wanted, so they started pointing fingers. Didn't really seem like an outright lie to me.
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No, she's not being supported by the big banks (small donors who were employees of the banks were grouped by employer).
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Really? Then why is it listed underneath that "organization" name? It makes no sense...Is that linked website just lying or what, because it's absolutely a misrepresentation to say the money came from those organizations with a disclaimer that it didn't at the bottom in tiny text. What is the purpose of categorizing the donations under those headers?
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Her comment about not getting single payer is pure realism -- Sander's has no chance of it happening until someone manages to convince doctors, hospitals, drug companies, and insurers to go along. Bernie ain't gonna do that unless he sets himself up as a dictator (which he wouldn't do).
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Well, as I've mentioned, you're probably right but I still want to have someone force this conversation to be had for 4 years instead of ignoring it simply because it's hard to accomplish. The further out you hold the carrot, the faster the donkey walks. Big dreams result in slightly less big, but still worthwhile, accomplishments.
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She also seems to know more about foreign policy.
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Matter of opinion, I will concede. I hold a different one, but tomato / potato.
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What really turned me off was that Sanders' supporters sound like Republicans (or Communists): We have a party line and if you aren't 110% ideologically pure, you're a traitor. I find that sort of attitude stupid and very immature. The very nature of politics in a democracy is that you won't get everything you want.
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I've honestly never heard this but I'm interested to see what is giving you this impression.
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Much of Hillary's "history," BTW, is just a fabrication of the right wing. It's like thinking she had Vince Foster killed.
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What is the "history" that seems to be fabricated? I mean it's all public record...what part has been fabricated?