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Originally Posted by Morgenstern
Marissa, I really can't tell if you're confused or if you're being deliberately obtuse. The fact that you freely toss names tends to make me believe you are frustrated at your failure to respond as an adult with appropriate logic and common sense.
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Well, far be it from me to stand between someone and their beliefs.
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Perhaps you never heard of the Bill of Rights.
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And who gave us those rights? The government, yes? I believe I said rights are those for which we fight and keep or
ARE GIVEN US BY THE GOVERNMENT. Which of course, you are asserting can never be suspended or taken away, even tough they've been bypassed over and over with no legal repercussions for those doing the bypassing over the past eight years. American citizens have had and continue to have their rights removed or suspended.
Rights can be suspended, changed and removed. To call a right "fundamental" is to say that it is there and cannot be taken away. That implies something larger than governments gifted us with these 'fundamental' rights. As an atheist, I don't believe we were magically bequeathed with rights by some great power. Aside from a few biological tendencies, there's nothing much I consider "inherent."