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10th February 2016, 11:25 AM
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Star Trek: Enterprise
Because I never watched even one episode during its four year run, I decided to binge watch it this week. I haven't totally made up my mind, but with 96 episodes. somebody must have liked it.
So just some thoughts after watching 15 eps on Netflix. 1. The long-range shots of the Enterprise IMO belies what one sees on the inside. I understand that ST:E predates the original by 150 years, but the inner areas made me feel claustrophobic. 2. Were there ever only the 7 characters? Maybe I haven't watched enough yet, but as yet, I've only seen a handful of other crew seated in the dining hall. No "Red Shirts", IOW. 3. Not sure where the "Stranded In The Pod Running Out Of Air" was placed. Toward the end of the show's run? The middle?..... but I got perturbed and tired of the constant squabble between "Trip" and Malcolm over the "I'm Fixin' To Die" disc Reed was making. That one really got on my last nerve. I'd like to read your thoughts about the show. Meanwhile, I'll continue my marathon-watching. Thanks Q 
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10th February 2016, 11:55 AM
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I like Trek, but I think it's better when you're more selective about which episodes to watch. Enterprise and Voyager have the greatest proportion of duds, among the various series.
Some people like "Shuttlepod One," from the middle of the first season. I think it's a more interesting concept than many eps, but flawed in execution. There are supposed to be more crew on the ship than the seven cast regulars, but it's true, you don't see them much in most episodes. Actually the most significant supporting characters in the show are people not on the ship: Admiral Forrest, Ambassador Soval, and my (blue) man Shran. Last edited by Pere; 10th February 2016 at 11:59 AM.
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10th February 2016, 01:03 PM
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I liked it. I liked the song too. It was grittier, less polished sort of universe. Further, I admire the boldness the writers took with a canon too many fans take too seriously.
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10th February 2016, 02:19 PM
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The whole show was meh!! and that describes the Shuttlepod One episode accurately. I liked the mirror universe ones.
Originally the producers wanted U2s Beautiful Day for the title song because the company that did the titles used it when they showed the producers their work but they couldn't get the rights to it. They also thought that Diane Warren would write a new song but unfortunately they got Faith of the Heart instead. 
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#6
10th February 2016, 03:26 PM
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Decon gel. A Night In Sickbay. Porthos. Hoshi. = All good things
Manny Coto running things later in the series was also a good thing. Search on SDMB the term Enterprise Spoilers for some of the goofiest Trek Doper threads in the history of Trek Doping  .
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#8
10th February 2016, 04:26 PM
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#9
10th February 2016, 04:28 PM
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Makes one wonder if perhaps Scott Bakula may have wanted to appear at the beginning and apologize personally for the piece of shit he and the rest are about to attack you with.
To be fair, though I'm only a third of the way through, so I'll not prejudge. One that I definitely didn't like was DS9. Not sure how long it lasted, but (again IMO) what must have killed that one was the fact that the whole thing was stationary. That and the thing with the tits on its forehead. But at the time, what were we gonna do? It was as close to Star Trek as it and we could get. I absolutely loved TNG, though. Those of you more well-versed in plot, dialogue etc., can probably discuss that one on many more levels than I, but TNG appealed to me all the way across the board. Q
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10th February 2016, 05:03 PM
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DS9 is usually given as most fans' favorite series. I agree taste varies, though.And it lasted seven seasons, same as TNG. At least you gave it a chance.
Enterprise started to grow the beard (see what I did there?  ) in season three. Season four was when Manny Coto started producing. In addition Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens became story editors. They have authored 20 Trek books, including ghost-writing William Shatner's Shatnerverse novels and are intimately familiar with the entire Star Trek mythos.
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#12
10th February 2016, 06:14 PM
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I know I'm in the minority here, but I quite enjoyed ST:E and I was only lukewarm on DS9.
What I especially liked about ST:E (in addition to T'Pol and Yoshi) was seeing some of the backstory of the original series explained. It gave you an "Oh! So that's where that thing came from!" experience. It was fun watching the "future" develop. What I didn't care for in DS9 was the neverending subplots and story arcs. I know this is what a lot of other people really liked about it, but to me it had too much of a soap opera feel about it. It's one thing to have continuity from episode to episode, it's quite another to drag out a plotline for an entire season or more. I generally hate the "... To Be Continued" episodes. Tell me a story and wrap it all up in 48 minutes. Come back next week and tell me another and I'm a happy fan. Make me watch 22 episodes over the period of a year to find out whodunit, I'm changing the channel. IMHO, YMMV, etc.
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#13
11th February 2016, 05:18 AM
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As a Christian, the religious overtones of DS9 bothered me. Further, the final episode was as dreadful as the last ST:TNG was great.
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19th February 2016, 06:27 AM
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Almost done with my "Star Trek TNG" marathon. I only need to get through half of season 6 and all of 7.
My opinion this far is: they did right in quitting after the 7th season. It may be because I spent my time watching episode after episode, but it got to the point where the actors/writers were "telegraphing" the action. The Holodeck and Forward 10 got used to excess IMO. Time loops and time travel as well. "Q" also got a little tedious. Oh and the things with what looked like tits or very small asses on their heads were Ferengi. Q
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#17
19th February 2016, 12:57 PM
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I liked Enterprise.
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15th April 2016, 10:02 PM
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TOS aside, I think Enterprise is my favorite of the bunch. It lacked the degradation of war and political and religions overtones of DS9 and the ever-present happy socialist/transcendental vibe of TNG. And ... whatever Voyager offered ...
But everything was new. Everything was dangerous and had consequences and the people were more relatable than in the other shows. They were more like us, and more prone to the same mistakes but always hoping and striving for more and better. It set a great framework and answered questions about how the setting got to the place we originally saw it in older series. Yeah, it had a whole bunch of problems, but there was both strife and optimism in abundance while maintaining the ST goal of focusing on contemporary social issues in an adventurous sci-fi context.
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15th April 2016, 10:06 PM
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Based on what you just now wrote, I'm going to watch all the episodes again. Please forgive an old man who can't remember shit, and when he does, doesn't always remember to uhhh......
But your words make sense to this 66 year old and I will watch those episodes with what you wrote in mind. Thanks
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#20
15th April 2016, 11:19 PM
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Sure, Quisi!
I mean, it's entirely subjective, but I for one can't sit through any episodes of TNG seasons 1-2. There are a bunch of episodes that are kinda crap and overall rather cliché, and some plotlines are just ill-advised, but I like to focus on the characters and their growth, and in that in season three and all of season four that's really all the show is about. Hope you enjoy. EDIT: I mean really, it's the only ST series where people watch and discuss films and sit down together for a beer while watching sports. Last edited by Gorgon Heap; 15th April 2016 at 11:28 PM.
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25th December 2016, 06:18 PM
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Coto seemed to still be writing fan-fic. Find an excuse to show her second eye membranes. I knew they had them, too! A celot! Isn't that cool!
Enterprise was just recovering from the three species arc when it was canceled. STE was a great concept, but Scott Bacula acted as though he had leapt into a Star Fleet captain and had no idea what to do. The gorn was well done.
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