Felt vs. MC: Mafia Night 3 Thread

[Trepa Mayfield]

After a rather subdued discussion, the group of assorted mobsters/gangsters decided Zuma needed to go. And, as usual when the discussion changed, the music changed to fit. This time, it became a deep, strong set of beats, but muffled, like the stupid music for the stupid party that you wouldn't have wanted to go to even if you were invited run by the smarmy jock, three flimsy dorm walls and one flimsy dorm floor away.
Compounding matters, Zuma was nowhere in sight! Oh dear! Would today be another day of no information? No, as it turns out, he was just asleep in the water closet. You all gather in there and beat him to death with cue sticks.

Zuma, who was Diamonds Droog (Scum Doublekiller), is dead.

It is now Night. Day 4 starts at 9:15 PM MST, on Tuesday, March 06.

[BobArrgh]

WOOOT!!!!!!!!!

We finally got one!

[BobArrgh]

Hey, Giraffe ... is this guy any relation to you?

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/7458461.html

[Romanic]

Awesome!

[Idle Thoughts]

Nice.

[Romanic]

I don't think there's any doubt that Giraffe will have to be lynched tomorrow, after his blatant manipulation of the tally, to save Zuma on Day 2.

And again, his votes were helping Zuma on that Day:
(tie breakers are taken into account)

#25 Giraffe votes Romanic
Tally before: Zuma 1. (Zuma is ahead)
Tally after: Romanic 1, Zuma 1 (Zuma loses the lead)

#48 Giraffe votes Zeener from Day 7
Tally before: Romanic 1, Zuma 1
Tally after: Zeener 1, Romanic 1, Zuma 1

#77 Giraffe unvotes Zeener, and votes Romanic from Day 7
Tally before: Zuma 2, Lucifer 1, Ulla 1, Zeener 1, Romanic 1 (Zuma is ahead)
Tally after: Romanic 2, Zuma 2, Lucifer 1, Ulla 1, Zeener 1 (Zuma loses the lead)

#120 Giraffe unvotes Romanic and votes Zeener
Tally before: Zuma 3, Ulla 2, Zeener 2, Romanic 2, Lucifer 1 (Zuma is ahead)
Tally after: Zeener 3, Zuma 3, Ulla 2, Romanic 1, Lucifer 1 (Zuma loses the lead)

#144 Giraffe unvotes Romanic, and votes Zeener from Day 7
Tally before: Zuma 3, Zeener 3, Lucifer 2, Bob 2, Ulla 2, Romanic 1 (Zuma is ahead)
Tally after: Zeener 4, Zuma 3, Lucifer 2, Bob 2, Ulla 2 (Zuma loses the lead)

#149 Giraffe revotes Zeener from Day 7 (same vote - obvious tally manipulation)
Tally before: Zuma 4, Zeener 4, Lucifer 2, Ulla 2, Bob 1 (Zuma is ahead)
Tally after: Zeener 4, Zuma 4, Lucifer 2, Ulla 2, Bob 1 (Zuma loses the lead)


Unforgivable.

[Giraffe]

Well, this is the very definition of good news/bad news for me. I'm glad we finally got one, but now Town pretty much has to lynch me. Which means you won't know I'm Town until toMorrow Night, at which point Town will be down three more players total.

Don't know if we can win at that point. But that's my fault, no one else's -- I shouldn't have risked my mislynch based only on a hunch about Zeener.

Anyway, once I'm dead and confirmed, please look back at those who confidently started up the Giraffe is scum wagon: only Scum knew that I swung the vote from a scum to a Townie before toNight.

[Giraffe]

Lol, nice timing Romanic.

[Romanic]

I admit it, I will confidently start a Giraffe bandwagon.

[Romanic]

Tell me Giraffe, how do you see me now that Zuma was scum?

[Total Ulla]

Wauw - we did it

Makes me re-think Lucifer. Not so sure that two scums would jump on the same weak Day 1-case.

Yes, I know it could happen - I'm just not that convinced that it happened in this case.

And I just want to test something:

Vote Giraffe from Day 4

Can votes be placed during the Nights?

[Trepa Mayfield]

Originally Posted by Total Ulla

Wauw - we did it

Makes me re-think Lucifer. Not so sure that two scums would jump on the same weak Day 1-case.

Yes, I know it could happen - I'm just not that convinced that it happened in this case.

And I just want to test something:

Vote Giraffe from Day 4

Can votes be placed during the Nights?

No.

[SisterCoyote]

Originally Posted by Romanic

Tell me Giraffe, how do you see me now that Zuma was scum?

I'm not sure I see any difference in how you are perceived based on Zuma's Scum status...

Though your case on Giraffe is compelling.

[Total Ulla]

Originally Posted by SisterCoyote

I'm not sure I see any difference in how you are perceived based on Zuma's Scum status...

Though your case on Giraffe is compelling.

I agree. However if Giraffe turns out to be scum I'd put that down as a very pro-townie-point to Romanic.

But I can't see why Zuma being scum would indicate anything about Romanic and I am unsure why he asked Giraffe that question.

From what has happened (Zuma being scum and Giraffe having the vote-pattern he has and Romanic pointing it out) I'm a bit surprised why Romanic asked that question.
To me it looks like Romanic is pretty sure Giraffe is scum - so why would the answer to that question tell us anything?

[Romanic]

Originally Posted by Total Ulla

I agree. However if Giraffe turns out to be scum I'd put that down as a very pro-townie-point to Romanic.

But I can't see why Zuma being scum would indicate anything about Romanic and I am unsure why he asked Giraffe that question.

From what has happened (Zuma being scum and Giraffe having the vote-pattern he has and Romanic pointing it out) I'm a bit surprised why Romanic asked that question.
To me it looks like Romanic is pretty sure Giraffe is scum - so why would the answer to that question tell us anything?

Giraffe can still voteblock. I want it on record if he still suspects me enough to voteblock me again tonight, or if my Day 2 vote on Zuma, plus my request that Zuma or Giraffe be lynched on Day 3, is enough for him to drop his suspicions. As far as I'm concerned, he cannot justify a 2nd voteblock, hence my question.

I'm still waiting for an answer. *tap* *tap* *tap*

[Romanic]

Oh and since I am a mason/miller without any useful ability, I'm gonna try to be such a pain in the ass that the Scum will want to shut me down, despite my role.

Final Vote Count for Day 2

Zuma (4): Idle Thoughts [Day 1], BillMC [Day 2 Post 65], Romanic [Day 2 Post 139], Zeener Diode [Day 2 Post 147]
Zeener Diode (4): Moody Mitchy [Day 2 Post 96], BobArrgh [Day 2 Post 101], Giraffe [Day 2 Post 120], Giraffe [Day 7]
Lucifer (2): Total Ulla [Day 2 Post 70], Romola [Day 2 Post 136]
Total Ulla (2): Romanic [Day 7], BillMC [Day 6]
BobArrgh (1): Lucifer [Day 2 Post 110]


Two Townies who were voting Zuma, are now dead. I know about Idle Thoughts from my role PM, and I know my role, so from my perspective, nobody was bussing Zuma on that Day. Of course you cannot be sure of that, but my vote on Zuma should get me some credit.

Giraffe was trying to save him, I've shown that already.

What else? Oh... loooook who else Bill was voting? Total Scum... I mean, Total Ulla.

Why would Bill have been killed? He wasted his Day 6 and Day 7 votes, he would have been an asset for the Scum to keep alive, for not being able to vote late in the game. They didn't have to kill him, unless he was right about Zuma and Ulla perhaps?

[Romanic]

Also, look at that final tally from Day 2, and the vote history, I think the Scums were aware that Zuma was in danger of being lynched. Hell, if I woke up in time, instead of snoozing my clock, I would have moved my Ulla vote on Zuma and we would have lynched a Scum on that Day. So I'd be surprised if 2 Scums were on the Zeener bandwagon, it would have been too obvious.

My picture of it:

Zuma (4): Idle Thoughts [Day 1], BillMC [Day 2 Post 65], Romanic [Day 2 Post 139], Zeener Diode [Day 2 Post 147]
Zeener Diode (4): Moody Mitchy [Day 2 Post 96], BobArrgh [Day 2 Post 101], Giraffe [Day 2 Post 120], Giraffe [Day 7]
Lucifer (2): Total Ulla [Day 2 Post 70], Romola [Day 2 Post 136]
Total Ulla (2): Romanic [Day 7], BillMC [Day 6]
BobArrgh (1): Lucifer [Day 2 Post 110]


We're left with non-voters, Lucifer, Romola and Ulla.

Lucifer asked to be replaced. That's interestingly disinterested. I'm thinking he's not Scum.

Romola wasted her Day 6 vote yesterDay on Giraffe, who wasn't to be lynched. Wasting a vote like this doesn't look Scum to me

And Ulla - Hellllo Scum! She has all her votes still - Didn't use any from the future, and oh, I'm gonna make a post by post to show you how scummy she is.

@Giraffe : Can we convince you to voteblock Ulla tonight? You know, proving your good intentions and all? *rofl*

[Romanic]

Originally Posted by Total Ulla

Wauw - we did it

Makes me re-think Lucifer. Not so sure that two scums would jump on the same weak Day 1-case.

Yes, I know it could happen - I'm just not that convinced that it happened in this case.

And I just want to test something:

Vote Giraffe from Day 4

Can votes be placed during the Nights?

I think that posting it in the thread is a deliberate attempt to dissociate herself from Giraffe, otherwise she could have asked HB privately. Of course I can already hear her say that it's a better idea to ask publicly because [insert some reason from the future], but it's a convenient timing to prevote Giraffe, don't you think?

It's all about motivation - What her motivation here? Distance herself from Giraffe, or see if we can vote at night? (Was it even possible to vote at night in a previous game? We cannot vote at night, why try now?)

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Romanic

Tell me Giraffe, how do you see me now that Zuma was scum?

You give quite a lot away with questions like this, you know. This is a question that only scum would ask someone they know is Town about to be lynched, IMO. You're trying to get some ass-covering validation for when I come up Town toMorrow. But in no other combination of alignments would this question get asked: why would a Town player care about a soon-to-be-lynched scum's opinion of their play?

And no, you don't get any Town points for knowing Zeener was Town and Zuma was scum. Because all scum players have that knowledge at the outset. So I think that you, Idle, and Romola should fall directly under Town scrutiny toMorrow Night for the confidence with which you pushed the "Giraffe rescued a scum player!" bandwagon yesterDay.

It's still not impossible you're Town, which would make this game the greatest Town clusterfuck in history. You could just be a really intense Town player who is super excited their hunch played out, but I think way too many of your posts betray certainty that a Town player shouldn't have.

[Idle Thoughts]

Originally Posted by Giraffe

So I think that you, Idle, and Romola should fall directly under Town scrutiny toMorrow Night for the confidence with which you pushed the "Giraffe rescued a scum player!" bandwagon yesterDay.

I'm very confused...because you did exactly that.

Zuma was set to be lynched on that Day, yet you saved him, at the last minute, by unvoting and voting again (for Zeener). You did rescue a scum player, and I think it's because you're scum too.

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Idle Thoughts

I'm very confused...because you did exactly that.

Zuma was set to be lynched on that Day, yet you saved him, at the last minute, by unvoting and voting again (for Zeener). You did rescue a scum player, and I think it's because you're scum too.

Don't worry, there's no way I'm not going to be lynched toMorrow. I'm not trying to talk my way out of it. Town has to assume I'm a likely scum at this point.

But once I'm dead and flipped up Town, Town should look back at those of you who played the "look what Giraffe did!" card before all the data was in. Scum would know that I handed myself over on a silver platter before Town would, and I think they exposed themselves trying to set up the mislynch.

You should be safe, though -- I can't imagine Town wouldn't lynch Romanic first, and unless he comes up scum (which you yourself don't seem to think is very likely), that would confirm you as Town.

[Romanic]

Originally Posted by Giraffe

You give quite a lot away with questions like this, you know. This is a question that only scum would ask someone they know is Town about to be lynched, IMO. You're trying to get some ass-covering validation for when I come up Town toMorrow.

I laugh at your petty accusations. As a mason, I don't care about validation. Did you see people vote for me yesterDay? Right, we've seen one: You. I don't need validation because I've already got it from my actions, my votes and my claimed role. You don't want to admit it because you're a scumbag afraid to look bad if he's backing down.

Originally Posted by Giraffe

But in no other combination of alignments would this question get asked: why would a Town player care about a soon-to-be-lynched scum's opinion of their play?

I explained already. I wanted you to disclose a public opinion of me, to see how you would justify voteblocking me again tonight. From these last posts, I'm guessing that you will.

Originally Posted by Giraffe

And no, you don't get any Town points for knowing Zeener was Town and Zuma was scum. Because all scum players have that knowledge at the outset. So I think that you, Idle, and Romola should fall directly under Town scrutiny toMorrow Night for the confidence with which you pushed the "Giraffe rescued a scum player!" bandwagon yesterDay.

Being so stubborn about me cannot be real Giraffe. You are handwaving concrete facts about me, based on what? Because as a scum I would know who else is Scum. Because I'm displaying confidence about my Town image. Don't make me laugh.

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Romanic

I laugh at your petty accusations. As a mason, I don't care about validation. Did you see people vote for me yesterDay? Right, we've seen one: You. I don't need validation because I've already got it from my actions, my votes and my claimed role. You don't want to admit it because you're a scumbag afraid to look bad if he's backing down.

Why on earth would I care how I look? I can't think of a single reason for Town not to lynch me, so I'm not going to argue that they shouldn't. It's just back luck (and a bit of my own stupidity) that I've given them a mandatory mislynch.

Originally Posted by Romanic

I explained already. I wanted you to disclose a public opinion of me, to see how you would justify voteblocking me again tonight. From these last posts, I'm guessing that you will.

What purpose would my voteblocking you toDay serve? I'm assuming you'll vote for me, along with everyone else. But at the same time, why are you so anxious about it? Do you have a power that requires you to be able to vote?

Being so stubborn about me cannot be real Giraffe. You are handwaving concrete facts about me, based on what? Because as a scum I would know who else is Scum. Because I'm displaying confidence about my Town image. Don't make me laugh.

That's not at all what I said. I said you focused on my tie-breaking vote saving Zuma well before Town knew that Zuma was scum. That's a bit suspicious, don't you think? I mean, it appears that my daring to argue a case against you gets under your skin for some reason, but as an objective argument, that does hold water, does it not?

And I said nothing about you displaying confidence about your Town image, I don't know where you got that. That seems like null data to me.

Overall, I don't know why you care that I still think you're scum. If I'm scum, it won't matter. If I'm Town and you're Town, well, the two of us pretty much lost the game for Town. We suck. We can each share our thoughts post-game about how to do a better job next time. But I think you're worried because you'd hoped I'd say "oh look you were right about zuma and I was wrong -- hey guys, no one lynch Romanic!" when in fact I think Town will be crazy not to lynch you after me, especially if both you and Idle survive two more Nights unkilled. So yeah, sorry about that, but you'll get no Townie cred from me.

[BobArrgh]

Now that we caught Zuma, I think his name reveals something that might be significant.

According to the source color, there are two gangs: the Felt and the Midnight Crew. There are 15 main Felt members, each named according to the number on the ball. (I'm ignoring the Cue ball, for now.) There are 4 main Midnight Crew members, each named for the suits in a deck of cards.

Zuma: Diamonds Drogg -- Scum

Romanic: Clubs Deuce -- Claimed Town Mason/Miller
Peeker: Spades Slick -- Undecided
BillMc: Unknown name -- Unknown alignment

If my memory serves me right, all the other deaths/lynches were Townies, and they all had names that matched the Felt.

My theory is that the Midnight Crew are anti-Town. Peeker was still undecided, but he had the potential of being anti-Town.

Romanic referred to "your team" when talking to Giraffe, who has claimed to be Town and who expresses a willingness to be lynched so as to be be confirmed as such. The fact that he has the name of a Midnight Crew character is quite telling, in my opinion.

I think I would be more comfortable knowing if Hearts Boxcars is in the game, and if so, what his or her role is.

[BobArrgh]

NETA: In the second-to-last paragraph in my #24, the last sentence was referring to Romanic, not Giraffe.

[Trepa Mayfield]

Originally Posted by BobArrgh

There are 15 main Felt members, each named according to the number on the ball. (I'm ignoring the Cue ball, for now.)

[obsessivefan]There actually is a cueball in the source color, but not in the intermission. His name is Doc Scratch, and he is basically as powerful as a god, and attempting to orchestrate the end of the universe. Officially, he is in second-in-command of The Felt, but he never shows up in the intermission, like Lord English doesn't.[/obsessivefan]

[Romanic]

It's a pleasure to watch your squirm, Giraffe, but I'm not one to be swayed by your "I am Town, I've made a mistake" blabber. I hope other won't fall for this crap. The evidence we have against you outrank anything you can say to save yourself.

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Romanic

It's a pleasure to watch your squirm, Giraffe, but I'm not one to be swayed by your "I am Town, I've made a mistake" blabber. I hope other won't fall for this crap. The evidence we have against you outrank anything you can say to save yourself.

How does "I think Town should lynch me" qualify as trying to save myself? Once I'm dead, however, I still want Town to win. So I'm pointing things out that I hope they'll consider after I'm gone and confirmed Town.

[Romola]

Giraffe, who is your power targetted on toNight? If you are Town, there can be no harm in telling us.

[Romanic]

Originally Posted by Giraffe

How does "I think Town should lynch me" qualify as trying to save myself? Once I'm dead, however, I still want Town to win. So I'm pointing things out that I hope they'll consider after I'm gone and confirmed Town.

*rofl*

These qualifies as trying to save yourself:

Why on earth would I care how I look? I can't think of a single reason for Town not to lynch me, so I'm not going to argue that they shouldn't. It's just back luck (and a bit of my own stupidity) that I've given them a mandatory mislynch.

If I'm Town and you're Town, well, the two of us pretty much lost the game for Town. We suck.

But your whole post (#23) is an attempt to be perceived as a Townie who made a mistake. Don't give me the eyebrow, please.

[Romola]

Originally Posted by Giraffe

So I think that you, Idle, and Romola should fall directly under Town scrutiny toMorrow Night for the confidence with which you pushed the "Giraffe rescued a scum player!" bandwagon yesterDay.

If I wanted to nitpick, i would point out that my two votes were the 'Giraffe singlehandedly got a Town Protector lynched' bandwagon.

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Romola

Giraffe, who is your power targetted on toNight? If you are Town, there can be no harm in telling us.

Why do you want to know?

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Romanic

*rofl*

These qualifies as trying to save yourself:

But your whole post (#23) is an attempt to be perceived as a Townie who made a mistake. Don't give me the eyebrow, please.

For a moment, pretend you have absolute divinely-given knowledge that I'm Town. What exactly in any of my posts toNight do you think is wrong?

I expect to be lynched, but obviously since I know I'm Town I'm not going to pretend it's anything other than bad for Town. I don't know why this seems to bother you.

[Romanic]

Originally Posted by Giraffe

For a moment, pretend you have absolute divinely-given knowledge that I'm Town. What exactly in any of my posts toNight do you think is wrong?

Your unwavering suspicions on me when a Townie should be amenable to my innocence after I tried to lynch Zuma, but failed because of you. If it was truly a mistake, you should see me in another light since I was right and you weren't.

So it's just wrong that you are trying to paint me as bussing my partner on Day 2, and that you're the Town guy who just made a mistake by saving him. I'm one of the players who was instrumental to his downfall (with Idle, Bill & Zeener) and you completely refuse to accept it, for various weak reasons.

Bullshit, I don't believe you. A Townie wouldn't act like that.

[Romanic]

I'm already looking up some Giraffe recipes for Tomorrow.

http://www.theworldwidegourmet.com/r...giraffe-steak/

Marinated Giraffe steak... yummy.

[BobArrgh]

I would like to respectfully ask that the link to the pictures of the cute baby giraffe I posted in #3 be removed so Romanic not be able to salivate when researching other recipes.

[Romanic]

Don't worry Bob, that little giraffe looks too skinny to make a good steak.

The big one however looks tasty. *slurp*

[Romanic]

See Giraffe... this doesn't make sense:

Originally Posted by Giraffe

And no, you don't get any Town points for knowing Zeener was Town and Zuma was scum. Because all scum players have that knowledge at the outset. So I think that you, Idle, and Romola should fall directly under Town scrutiny toMorrow Night for the confidence with which you pushed the "Giraffe rescued a scum player!" bandwagon yesterDay.

(removed bold, and added mine for emphasis)

Originally Posted by Giraffe

Don't worry, there's no way I'm not going to be lynched toMorrow. I'm not trying to talk my way out of it. Town has to assume I'm a likely scum at this point.

But once I'm dead and flipped up Town, Town should look back at those of you who played the "look what Giraffe did!" card before all the data was in. Scum would know that I handed myself over on a silver platter before Town would, and I think they exposed themselves trying to set up the mislynch.

You should be safe, though -- I can't imagine Town wouldn't lynch Romanic first, and unless he comes up scum (which you yourself don't seem to think is very likely), that would confirm you as Town.

(removed bold, and added mine for emphasis)

You're gunning for Idle, because he's pushing your lynch. It's even worse than going after me.

Idle was voted by Zuma on Day 1, and it started a bandwagon on him, forcing him to claim, and me collaterally. Then Idle voted Zuma on Day 2, right off the start. Kept his vote there and he failed because of YOU. Then he pushed for your lynch on Day 3, but clearly stated that Zuma is also a big suspect.

This is just another proof that you're not trying to find who is really scummy. Zuma and Idle are like worse enemies in this game. How do you explain Zuma voting Idle, then Idle voting Zuma, ultimately leading to a Zuma lynch?

I'm sure you can cook us a nice story, but don't bother to answer.

You're not looking for scum, that much is plain.

[Romanic]

Oh and on the other hand, Ulla is fancy, taking the other side, saying things like "I don't approve of a Romanic lynch", pre-voting Giraffe, early vote on Zuma D3 and various tricks to look Townish, but I can see through her disguise.

Woof! woof! woof! - I won't stop yapping!

Btw, if you didn't know, I am in possession of a strong artifact that can turn this game around very quickly. I won't bother to name it here, because Ed won't be able to read the thread at work, but here's a link:

My powerful artifact

You better kill me quick, scummers.

[Zeener Diode]

BOO!

[BobArrgh]

Coming soon to a theater near you ...

Romanic ...

starring in ...

The Cane Mutiny

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Romanic

You're gunning for Idle, because he's pushing your lynch. It's even worse than going after me.

No, actually, I said the exact opposite. I'm now suspicious that the two of you are scum who cooked up the whole Mason-Miller claim (as has been done by scum in the past), but I would never advocate lynching Idle before you. So if you're Town as you claim, Idle is completely safe.

Originally Posted by Romanic

Idle was voted by Zuma on Day 1, and it started a bandwagon on him, forcing him to claim, and me collaterally. Then Idle voted Zuma on Day 2, right off the start. Kept his vote there and he failed because of YOU. Then he pushed for your lynch on Day 3, but clearly stated that Zuma is also a big suspect.

FYI, this is one of the things that started to ping me about Idle being scum with you: the fact that you two keep jumping in to try to shore up each other's cases.

And you keep arguing so earnestly that it's shocking of me to even consider voting for you or Idle when, for example, one of you voted for a scum player! Really? You think a single scum bussing vote should guarantee one from future suspicion for the rest of the game? I mean, sure, if it was your first game, I'd expect that kind of wide-eyed naivete, but instead it just seems, well, implausible.

Originally Posted by Romanic

This is just another proof that you're not trying to find who is really scummy. Zuma and Idle are like worse enemies in this game. How do you explain Zuma voting Idle, then Idle voting Zuma, ultimately leading to a Zuma lynch?

Enemies? What are you talking about? That is crazy talk. You and I aren't enemies and we've had about a thousand times more heated interaction than Idle and Zuma. I just think you're scum and you either do or are pretending to think the same about me. But if a Cop popped up and confirmed us both as Town, I wouldn't think another thing about it, I'd just move on to other suspects.

Professional wrestling has "enemies". Mafia just has liars lying about their lies.

[Romola]

Originally Posted by Giraffe

Why do you want to know?

Why wouldn't you say? I can't see any Town motivation for keeping quiet and want to hear who your choice is and the reasons why. If you chose the target for a Town reason, you'd be glad to explain, wouldn't you?

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Romola

Why wouldn't you say? I can't see any Town motivation for keeping quiet and want to hear who your choice is and the reasons why. If you chose the target for a Town reason, you'd be glad to explain, wouldn't you?

Because I can think of some reasons why scum would want to know in advance. So I think I'll keep my target to myself this time.

In terms of Town, it's my opinion that Town's best and only move toMorrow is to lynch me, so it can't possibly matter who I vote block, now can it? Since every other person should vote for me?

Now how about you answer my question of why you want to know?

[Romola]

I can't think of any reasons scum would want to know in advance. Everyone can find out soon enough when Day begins. Enlighten me.

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Romola

I can't think of any reasons scum would want to know in advance. Everyone can find out soon enough when Day begins. Enlighten me.

Why won't you tell me why you asked who my vote blocking target is?

[Giraffe]

::crickets::

[Romola]

I did tell you!

Originally Posted by Romola

I can't see any Town motivation for keeping quiet and want to hear who your choice is and the reasons why.

If scum knew at Night that a certain player's vote was blocked the following Day, what serious help would that give them? Especially as other players can draw in future votes to replace the blocked player if needs be. Seriously, Giraffe!

[Romola]

And if you're Town and as resigned to being lynched as you claim to be, you should be singing like a canary by now.

[Giraffe]

No, you haven't answered why you want to know. Given that you've pursued the topic across multiple posts, it's clearly more than purely idle curiosity. And wanting to know because you can't think of a reason scum would care is not a reason.

You and Romanic have both pursued this issue rather doggedly without giving a single reason for it. Given that you two make up two thirds of my three player list of suspects for using my Zeener/Zuma vote to cover themselves in Town cred by "catching" a scum manipulating the vote, you'll forgive me if I don't eagerly jump to your "Town needs you to tell us, don't ask why!" gambit.