Has any Doper ever changed personality as much as Qin Shi Huangdi?

[Someone]

So, I'm not a longtime Doper, I was relatively new to the boards, joining in 2012 or something like that. So my history of getting to know other dopers over a period of several years is a lot shorter than some of you old timers.

So with that said, Qin has undergone a radical personality change. I think he started the board as a conservative, shifted slowly leftward until he was basically in the tank for the Dems (although still proudly pro-life) and so on. So "Qin" has changed a lot over time. But sometime, I don't know exactly when, he changed radically and drastically, to the point that if you told me his account has been hijacked by another person, I wouldn't be surprised. And it's not even that his ideology has changed, but the way that he posts now is so disgustingly annoying it's difficult to describe. It's like he uses the most obscure language possible, coining his own words and giving existing words his own definitions, and speaking in riddles, using odd turns of phrase, innuendo, double-entendre, portmanteau, and god knows what else as if he's better than everyone at communication. He still manages to type a coherent sentence now and again, but for the most part, his posts are really just word salads to me.

Anyway, so that's how I feel about Qin. So now the question. Have any of you seen such a dramatic/drastic shift in someone's posting style, ideology, or any other factor? Have you ever gone from liking a doper to despising them, not because you found out something about them that you hate, but that they genuinely changed and became something you hate?

Because as I've pointed out in the snark threads, I really used to like Qin. But now I find him to be the most annoying poster I've ever seen. I would rather throw a thousand things down a quarry than read another one of his posts. I'd rather fuck a paper towel tube. I'd rather receive a million insincere Shodan regards. I'd rather follow a million contentless BrainGlutton link posts, or bet on a billion adaher predictions. I'd rather follow a thousand broken Fenris links . I'd rather read 1 or 2 (at most) askthepizzaguy rants. I'd rather do pretty much anything than suffer through another one of his banal, haughty posts ever again.

[Someone]

Ur attracted to him :randy:

[Someone]

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Ur attracted to him :randy:

Go fuck yourself.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Go fuck yourself.

Such harsh language! Is that allowed around here??? Are we not bound by the "go fuck a cactus" rule?

But seriously, who the hell is madsircool?

[Someone]

JamieMcCairy was someone I didn't think would last long at all, but after he changed his name to Ambivalid, I thought he improved greatly. Not only did he start following the rules, pretty much, but he actually become funny and clever at times.

[Someone]

And I had the opposite view on Qin. Back when he was Curtis LeMay, I thought he was a troll who would be banned very soon...but he vastly improved and became a poster I finally started liking a lot. He still pisses some people off, but he's no longer someone I think is just there to troll around, which is what I thought the first year or so he was there.

[Someone]

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And I had the opposite view on Qin. Back when he was Curtis LeMay, I thought he was a troll who would be banned very soon...but he vastly improved and became a poster I finally started liking a lot. He still pisses some people off, but he's no longer someone I think is just there to troll around, which is what I thought the first year or so he was there.

I have no idea how you could feel this way, given his raving madness about TRUMP in recent days, and his flat-out trollish comments about Marco Rubio being a "homosexual." He condescends constantly, at least I think he does, when I can understand what he's trying to say. I never remember him being like that before. But if you have some posts from his early days which you feel were more trollish, I'd be happy to examine the evidence and adjust my opinion of him. Maybe he's been a little shit-stain the whole time, and I was just oblivious to it until now. This would be somewhat akin, although not entirely similar, to when I finally realized that Bricker was not a principled conservative who could be respected even when I disagreed with him, and figured out that he is a republican shill in the vein of Clothahump (although Bricker can at least be useful in some legal threads).

[Someone]

I've been Facebook friends with Qin for several years. He changed when he went to college. He's what, 19 or 20 now? All this talking about "Cuck" and everything, it seems like he's gotten involved with MRA/4chan types. I hope it's just his age. He doesn't seem to have a very defined idea of who he wants to be and is trying on different personas.

[Someone]

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I have no idea how you could feel this way, given his raving madness about TRUMP in recent days, and his flat-out trollish comments about Marco Rubio being a "homosexual."

Ah. I don't read GD or Elections, that's why. Just based on what I see of him is where my opinion come from which is, I admit, not often. Only when he ventures into and makes post in CS, MPSIMS, or IMHO.

[Someone]

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Ah. I don't read GD or Elections, that's why. Just based on what I see of him is where my opinion come from which is, I admit, not often. Only when he ventures into and makes post in CS, MPSIMS, or IMHO.

Ah ok. I didn't know he even posted outside of Elections. I guess it's some comfort to know that he passes for a reasonable poster in the other forums.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

I've been Facebook friends with Qin for several years. He changed when he went to college. He's what, 19 or 20 now? All this talking about "Cuck" and everything, it seems like he's gotten involved with MRA/4chan types. I hope it's just his age. He doesn't seem to have a very defined idea of who he wants to be and is trying on different personas.

Yeah, people certainly can and regularly do change a lot between their teenage years (did Qin join the dope when he was 16?) and their 20's. Even granting that, I still don't understand how he has changed so very much. And again, this isn't just in ideology, which is normal to change, but in the way he posts, the language he uses, etc. It's like he's a totally different person.

[Someone]

I can't recall anyone changing as much as Qin, but I'm not as up on Dope personalities as many of y'all.

He never had a phase that I found very interesting or likable, but he's a real ass now.

[Someone]

It might be the Asperger's. I have BPD and it comes with a weird identity thing like that. So I've spent most of my life pretty much mirroring whoever I was around, including racist assholes and criminals.

[Someone]

I don't see him as having changed that much. He might have matured a bit (personally) but he's always been an unreasonable right-leaning butt head.

[Someone]

I am sure President TRUMP will see that Qin gets the help he obviously needs.

[Someone]

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I don't see him as having changed that much. He might have matured a bit (personally) but he's always been an unreasonable right-leaning butt head.

Really? I remember him as being fairly strong right as Curtis, and done a political 180 as Qin. Or at least every time I see him in a political thread these days, he's advocating fairly leftist notions that I remember him ranting against in his earlier days. This is so much so that I've often questioned myself as to whether I was remembering the name change correctly and whether Curtis and Qin were the same person.

ETA: The recent "homosexual" stuff threw me for a loop, though, as he cemented himself in the "liberal poster" part of my brain for the last year or two.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

I don't see him as having changed that much. He might have matured a bit (personally) but he's always been an unreasonable right-leaning butt head.

Nope--for a while he was an unreasonable left-leaning butt head. And now he's an unreasonable "has a crush on Trump" quasi-populist butt head.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Yeah, people certainly can and regularly do change a lot between their teenage years (did Qin join the dope when he was 16?) and their 20's. Even granting that, I still don't understand how he has changed so very much. And again, this isn't just in ideology, which is normal to change, but in the way he posts, the language he uses, etc. It's like he's a totally different person.

If I'm reading his timeline correctly, this is the first election in which he's actually allowed to vote like a big grown up, and he's swaggering about with damp panties at the thought of finally busting his electoral cherry.

[Someone]

CANNOT UNSEE

[Someone]

But he's still a butthead, right?

[Someone]

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CANNOT UNSEE

What the actual fuck???? Is that Qin? Where did you ever find that?

[Someone]

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What the actual fuck???? Is that Qin? Where did you ever find that?

Just searched on "Nazi Bishounen Waifu".

[Someone]

Qin might not be the greatest poster there, but he's not nearly has bad as he used to be.

[Someone]

True: he's far worse. At least before, he wasn't talking in jargon. He was a moron, but a coherent moron. Now he's an incoherent, jargon-bot.

[Someone]

I've never used the ignore list, but I skip over all of his posts as if they weren't even there. He's trying way too hard to be clever and failing miserably.

He's just a role player lacking any personal convictions.

[Someone]

After many years, I reluctantly allow that he is probably not a troll. Or if he is, he's been amazingly dedicated to maintaining the persona.

Which is a bit of a perfect storm of youth, above-average intelligence, and the arrogance that inevitably develops from both, mixed with what I can only assume is a pretty severe case of social retardation, and quite possibly a string of painful years of peer ostracism if not outright bullying, which would in part explain the fascination with spit-polished militarism and crushing one's enemies and whatnot. Add a healthy dose of blue balls, a panoply of free online pornography catering to every whim and paraphilia, and the unlikelihood that he is currently being, or has serious prospects for soon finding himself, regularly laid (at least in the actual, physical sense, involving the hands-on participation of another human being), and his sublimation of sexuality into politics and electioneering become more understandable, albeit no less irritating.

But what do I know? I'm just a middle-aged rando asshole who spends most of his time insulting strangers on the Internet.

[Someone]

But what do I know? I'm just a middle-aged rando asshole who spends most of his time insulting strangers on the Internet.

you don't really insult people, do you? because in my mind you are smart and funny and DON'T insult people and I want this to be true.

so please, reconsider. thanks.

Qin I don't know about since I am not a regular doper. I am irregular! despite raisins and other fiber!!!!

[Someone]

I'm just glad he stopped with the constant abortion threads and lecturing people about religion. (At least, in GD -- I think he mostly posts in the Election forum nowadays, and I generally avoid it)

[Someone]

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above-average intelligence

Where have you ever seen any sign of even average intelligence from him? At best, he's slightly smarter than BrainGlutton...but plankton is slightly smarter than BrainGlutton. All he ever does is spew other people's arguments. Only now he's adding cryptic jargon into the mix. I've never seen any original thought or actual scholarship from him.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Where have you ever seen any sign of even average intelligence from him? At best, he's slightly smarter than BrainGlutton...but plankton is slightly smarter than BrainGlutton. All he ever does is spew other people's arguments. Only now he's adding cryptic jargon into the mix. I've never seen any original thought or actual scholarship from him.

Finally, someone get it! A lot of other people here have been talking about his ideology changing over time to be more or less annoying. And I will grant that that change has happened. But now he just regurgitates every buzzword and, as you put it, political jargon that he ever hears, even admitting that he sometimes makes up his own definitions and disregards the racist roots of "cuck."

I (used to) think he was precocious, if not pretty bright and discovering himself, and the political evolution at that age is quite natural and understandable (and even if he's just repeating stuff he reads, he's at least reading a lot of political history and honestly knows a lot of it and can drop historical names and parties at the drop of a hat, that counts for something).

But this recent incarnation, as you and a couple others have identified, is characterized by senseless, jargon-filled garbage.

[Someone]

Before he was Qin, he was also something of a less-than-fully-thoroughly-thinking rah-rah, as exemplified by the second best humorous reference I've posted, which I am somewhat proud of.

[Someone]

Are there any links to his new, unimproved posting style?

[Someone]

Wait.... does cuck mean something other than what I think it does? #nopeIneverwatchporn

[Someone]

Considering one of our favorite topics around here, I'm going to assume it means "someone who creates a lot of sock accounts". I.e., a cucksocker.

[Someone]

I beg your pardon. I had a boatload of socks on the durp over the years, but I have never socked a cuck in my life

[Someone]

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I beg your pardon.

Then I doth pardon thee.

Originally Posted by Someone

I had a boatload of socks on the durp over the years, but I have never socked a cuck in my life

Do you wanna?

[Someone]

My vague impression is that he started out as an annoying asshole, became more tolerable about the time he changed his name, and lately has become an even more annoying asshole than he was originally.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Do you wanna?

I'm game. I got me a nice stanky rancid gym sock ready to go.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Are there any links to his new, unimproved posting style?

Ask and ye shall receive (though I don't know why you'd want to subject yourself to this):

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...11&postcount=3

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...4&postcount=24

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...postcount=1765

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...postcount=1418

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...9&postcount=22

There are more egregious, jargon-filled posts but I am not an esteemed member of the SDMB any longer and I can't just find all posts by one Qin Shi Huangdi.

[Someone]

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Wait.... does cuck mean something other than what I think it does? #nopeIneverwatchporn

"cuckservative" is a term, coined mainly by racists on extreme right-wing websites, to describe conservatives who aren't conservative enough. It's like calling someone a RINO, but with far more vitriol and racial overtones. Trying to figure out exactly how the term cuckold came to take on a political meaning, I assure you I have no idea. But our good friend Qin, even when it is explained to him that the word doesn't mean what he thinks it means, declares boldly that he's been using it before the racists were, and it's a great term that the Left should adopt. Except it makes absolutely no sense for the left to use it, because as pointed out, it means someone who is not conservative enough.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Ask and ye shall receive (though I don't know why you'd want to subject yourself to this):

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...11&postcount=3

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...4&postcount=24

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...postcount=1765

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...postcount=1418

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...9&postcount=22

There are more egregious, jargon-filled posts but I am not an esteemed member of the SDMB any longer and I can't just find all posts by one Qin Shi Huangdi.

Wait, he's railing against Plutocrats and Oligarchs? Is he a Thomas Nast cartoon? Also, TRUMP?

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Wait, he's railing against Plutocrats and Oligarchs? Is he a Thomas Nast cartoon? Also, TRUMP?

It's not clear to me what he's actually railing against, or what he actually believes. He keeps championing TRUMP (and no, he won't stop doing it and we don't know why he does it) as if he's the second coming of Marx or god knows who, but at the same time supports Clinton... I think. Honestly I just can't understand most of his posts.

[Someone]

BigT mentioned that Qin's user profile sez he's a Clinton supporter* and called him out on his his tRUMP-humping, which he said is really just sarcasm overdone to the point where it looks sincere.

It makes as much sense as any other theory, I guess.

*I'm banned so I can't see user profiles over there to confirm or deny.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

BigT mentioned that Qin's user profile sez he's a Clinton supporter* and called him out on his his tRUMP-humping, which he said is really just sarcasm overdone to the point where it looks sincere.

Who said that?

I don't think I believe it, in any case.

[Someone]

His sig says "Clinton/Schweitzer '16" for what it's worth.

[Someone]

BigT:

Okay, Qin. Your sarcasm is starting to look like your actual position. If I hadn't happened to look at your user page for some reason, I wouldn't have known you were a Clinton supporter.

Not only here, but your use of certain words makes it sound like you are buying into the hyperaggressive style of Trump's supporters. You might want to tone it down. What you say can wind up actually changing your mind.

[Someone]

The weird thing about his Trump support is that every bit of support he gives comes from the position of a leftist. He loves the moderate or leftist things Trump says or does or has supported in the past. And he especially loves it when he stands up to the Republican Establishment (which he calls cuckservatives or Kochservatives or whatever the fuck he feels like at the time).

So it's like Qin lives in this alternate universe where Trump is a leftist, and words mean things differently than they do here, but something is happening and his posts are crossing over into our dimension somehow.

[Someone]

Yes, he may well call himself a Clinton supporter, and at the same time believe that Trump's "populist" insurgency in the Republican party is something great for America.

I don't believe it's some kind of long-running sarcastic critique of Trump. He's genuinely thrilled by him.

[Someone]

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Yes, he may well call himself a Clinton supporter, and at the same time believe that Trump's "populist" insurgency in the Republican party is something great for America.

I don't believe it's some kind of long-running sarcastic critique of Trump. He's genuinely thrilled by him.

Agreed. It's not sarcasm. Man Pere, we're agreeing a lot these days!

[Someone]

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Are there any links to his new, unimproved posting style?

This was the one that made me first take notice.