Celebrity Career Death Pool

[Anacanapuna]

Like the Celebrity Death Pool, only with who's gonna' be the next guy toppled by his past. We should have started this after Charlie Rose.

I'm not sure how these work -- we all just list the people we think most likely will be next or at least punted by the end of the year?

Anyway, I'm putting Harrison Ford out there. Just for the hell of it.

[Tad Cooper]

Good idea. I'd put my money mostly on newsies. They love going after politicians and celebrities, so when they get a chance to eat one of their own, they do it with alacrity to show how much integrity they have.

So, my nominee: Anderson Cooper. (no relation)

[Khampelf]

Is it too late to put all my money on Matt Lauer?

[Zeener Diode]

I'm gonna take a swing at a long shot: Dr Phil.

[SmartAleq]

Garrison Keillor's off the list, already been fired.

[Flying Saucerian]

Not really sure. Joss Wheldon and Bryan Singer have both been accused of improprieties and they still seem to be working. Not sure if another one would be a death blow or not.

Then again, Victor Salva's still working and he's admitted to and served time in prison for having oral sex with a twelve year old boy. And video-taping it.

[Borborygmi]

My money's on Carrot Top. It's a prop bet.

[Trrollish McTrollllerson]

No one thinks a woman couldn't win it? I'll go for Oprah!

[Jaglavak]

The pope.

[SmartAleq]

Nah, not this pope, but it would have been easy money on Darth Benedict.

[Chacoguy]

Howard Stern.

[Tad Cooper]

Hugh Hefner.

[Jaglavak]

Santa Claus.

[Kat]

Rob Lowe! No, wait...

[Anacanapuna]

Originally Posted by SmartAleq

Garrison Keillor's off the list, already been fired.

Well, if Keillor is to be believed, this one has a bit of a bad aroma to it. It almost sounds like "a likely story," but only almost.

Originally Posted by Chacoguy

Howard Stern.

Nope. This guy made a living out of getting women to strip live in the studio. His "normal" is so far over the top anything less than forcible rape wouldn't raise an eyebrow.

Originally Posted by Tad Cooper

Hugh Hefner.

Too late. He's dead.

Originally Posted by Trrollish McTrollllerson

No one thinks a woman couldn't win it? I'll go for Oprah!

Chelsea Handler? And the complainant won't be a man, but a woman.

[Saint Nick]

Originally Posted by Jaglavak

Santa Claus.

You are wrong, mistletoe breath. I have never hidden my fondness for snowbunnies. Also, I know better than to expose myself up here.

[Flying Saucerian]

(And is it too late to get a bet in on Geraldo Rivera?)

[Tad Cooper]

Originally Posted by Flying Saucerian

(And is it too late to get a bet in on Geraldo Rivera?)

https://downtrend.com/71superb/bette...of-groping-her

All I can say is, ewwwwww.......

[Jaglavak]

The Energizer Bunny.

[BJMoose]

He just keeps coming and coming and coming . . .

[Mustard Stain]

Originally Posted by Anacanapuna

Anyway, I'm putting Harrison Ford out there. Just for the hell of it.

Harrison Ford's misbehavior of choice was usually vast amounts of pot. His driver for Indiana Jones movies said he used to smoke a joint every day on the way to set, so reading the script while puffing. I'd figure he was too stoned to do much more than gnosh at the craft table.

[Anacanapuna]

And now Al Franken is in the pool. I figure sometime next week. He'll be home for Christmas ... forever.

[Nisslbody]

Originally Posted by Tad Cooper

https://downtrend.com/71superb/bette...of-groping-her

All I can say is, ewwwwww.......

Why does that article say that Midler is crazy? I've never seen anything about her getting up to shenanigans. Did she go all Charlie Sheen while I wasn't looking?

[Anacanapuna]

I always thought The Divine Miss M was a little batty in that creative, unpredictable way that pushes really good entertainers into the realm of greatness. Anyone who can sing "The Rose" the way she does and then play Winnie Sanderson in "Hocus Pocus" is just a tad unhinged. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that she has been somewhat sexually adventurous in her life, to the delight and pleasure of anyone she invited along on those adventures. But the key word here is "invite."

Different women see these incidents differently; it's possible that not every woman whose ass was grabbed by Al Franken was offended by it. That's not saying standards are higher or lower, just different places on the spectrum. But whether a woman feels violated or not shouldn't be the definition of acceptable behavior. Midler probably has bigger things to worry about than Rivera's pervitude, but that's no comment whatsoever on the perviness of what Rivera (allegedly) did. It was wrong; Miss M simply declines to dwell on it.

[Jaglavak]

Are you kidding? She says she can't remember if she fucked him or not. Midler doesn't mess around.

[Nisslbody]

Originally Posted by Jaglavak

Are you kidding? She says she can't remember if she fucked him or not. Midler doesn't mess around.

That is probably the sickest burn of all time. I think I'm going to start referring to very, very, very dull things as "Geraldo Rivera forgettable".

[Nisslbody]

On second thought, considering the poppers, she could mean that she doesn't remember because she was drugged. Making what he did rape. It's kind of amazing how she's like "I shouldn't say this, I'll get in trouble" and then described being drugged and sexually assaulted, and then she and Walters laugh it off like, oh, those Hollywood shenanigans!

Horrifying.

[Jaglavak]

Nah, I'd say you had it right the first time. I bet she remembers her conquests just fine.

[Anacanapuna]

Actually, she said they broke some poppers under her nose and then got all grabby. She didn't say the poppers --whatever those are -- actually worked. Back in the day "poppers" were amyl nitrate and I assume that's what she's referring to. So she wasn't "drugged" -- poppers had less effect than a toke of marijuana, if my sources were correct, but they were legal, so kids used them instead of pot. I agree with Jaglavak -- if she'd strapped Geraldo on, either she'd remember it or he was eminently forgettable.

[BJMoose]

Midler was rather wild in her early days. I remember a story from those days about her doing stage shows sans panties and twirling around on stage, making her skirt float up.

What that has to do with harassment, I haven't the faintest idea.

[BJMoose]

Originally Posted by Anacanapuna

And now Al Franken is in the pool. I figure sometime next week. He'll be home for Christmas ... forever.

Didn't figure it would actually be just twelve hours. (For those who haven't heard: Franken announced today that he will be resigning his Senate seat. This is stunning, and I have no idea what to make of it.)

[Nisslbody]

Originally Posted by BJMoose

Didn't figure it would actually be just twelve hours. (For those who haven't heard: Franken announced today that he will be resigning his Senate seat. This is stunning, and I have no idea what to make of it.)

I make of it that he's responding to his misconduct coming to light by setting a precedent that other Democrats will feel like they have to follow. It's that, or he has some much worse skeletons in his closet that he is pre-emptively trying to keep from being discovered.

I hope it's the former.

[Random Precision]

And two more politicians make the naughty list.

Arizona Republican Trent Franks on Thursday announced he is resigning from Congress, facing a House Ethics Committee investigation as to whether he engaged in conduct that constitutes sexual harassment.

According to Franks' statement, the committee is reviewing an inquiry in which he discussed surrogacy with two former female subordinates, when he and his wife faced infertility.*

Now this looks like a guy trying to quit before the real story breaks. Linky

And now this -

The House Committee on Ethics voted Thursday to investigate Rep. Blake Farenthold (R-Texas) over allegations that he sexually harassed a former staffer and then used $84,000 in taxpayer money to settle her claim.

He hasn't quit yet, but it's probably just a matter of time. Linky

Perhaps Al Franken's experience has rattled some skeletons in a few other closets?

[Nisslbody]

Wow, Geraldo's tanking hard. Few deserve it more; he nasty.

Those tweets tho

http://digg.com/2017/geraldo-rivera-...ual-harassment

[Anacanapuna]

Here's what I hope: I hope that, after Franken resigns, he goes home, gets his shit back together, writes a book, and then runs again. That gives all of the women he offended ample opportunity to come forward. And if he runs and gets elected again, nothing can touch him. He's done his penance, spent his time in purgatory, given all of his accusers a chance to come forward. If they don't speak up during his next campaign, they relinquish their right to be heard.

[Nisslbody]

Nobody ever relinquishes their right to be heard. Especially not by their comfort in disclosing sexual assault or harassment not happening to fit into a convenient political timeline.

[BJMoose]

Mercy. Has Congress suddenly gotten religion? At this rate there won't be anyone left.

Franken himself noted the irony of his action compared to the inaction of the occupant of the Oval Office, who has much, much more to be ashamed of.

[Chacoguy]

I wonder how long before voters stop equating the "Republican Party" with "Christian Values".

They are actually endorsing a child molester.

They have elected an admitted sexual predator

.

[Zeener Diode]

It's better than a Democrat, in their narrow view.

[Zeener Diode]

Regarding Franken: he's doing the right thing, resigning from his office. He can go home, sort out his priorities, maybe write a book and try the $peaking circuit. But he'll never escape the stigma of actions leading up to his departure. And he shouldn't attempt to try.

[Chacoguy]

Old Men in Power, Fucking Little Girls is way more Christlike than two dudes married to eachother and butsex.

[Tad Cooper]

Originally Posted by BJMoose

Mercy. Has Congress suddenly gotten religion? At this rate there won't be anyone left.

Franken himself noted the irony of his action compared to the inaction of the occupant of the Oval Office, who has much, much more to be ashamed of.

Not sure I can agree with that. There is photographic evidence of Franken groping women. The only evidence against Trump is an audio recording of him bragging (lying?) about doing things that nobody has actually corroborated.

[Nisslbody]

Originally Posted by Tad Cooper

Not sure I can agree with that. There is photographic evidence of Franken groping women. The only evidence against Trump is an audio recording of him bragging (lying?) about doing things that nobody has actually corroborated.

Well, that, and the word of 16 different women.

But until women are people, I guess that's not evidence.

[Jaglavak]

That's crazy talk!

[BJMoose]

Originally Posted by Tad Cooper

Not sure I can agree with that. There is photographic evidence of Franken groping women. The only evidence against Trump is an audio recording of him bragging (lying?) about doing things that nobody has actually corroborated.

Let's not get ahead of the evidence here. Unless you know of something I don't know about, the only photograph is one where Franken, ever the "comedian", acts like he's groping a sleeping woman. Which is, at least, tacky, to be sure. Yesterday he said some of the charges being made are false; other incidents he remembers differently. What he didn't speak to was what in his past is prompting him to take the extreme act of resigning a Senate seat. Which makes one wonder what hasn't come out. It looks like Franken, having previously railed against others for their boorish behavior, is following the ethical high road and taking his own medicine. Imagine that - an ethical politician.

[Nisslbody]

Originally Posted by Jaglavak

That's crazy talk!

:lol:

[Nisslbody]

I can't believe there's no :lol: emote. How? Why? Did I know this at some point in the past, and forget? Or did I somehow never notice?

[AuntiePam]

Originally Posted by BJMoose

s not get ahead of the evidence here. Unless you know of something I don't know about, the only photograph is one where Franken, ever the "comedian", acts like he's groping a sleeping woman. Which is, at least, tacky, to be sure. Yesterday he said some of the charges being made are false; other incidents he remembers differently. What he didn't speak to was what in his past is prompting him to take the extreme act of resigning a Senate seat. Which makes one wonder what hasn't come out. It looks like Franken, having previously railed against others for their boorish behavior, is following the ethical high road and taking his own medicine. Imagine that - an ethical politician.

The photo -- it looks to me like his hands are barely touching her, if at all. It was something a 12-year-old boy would find funny, and that the "victim" would shrug off as idiotic and childish. I've tried to put myself in her place and I can't work up any anger, or a feeling of shame -- it's like being the butt of a bad joke. You shake your head and walk away.

I think Franken's resigning instead of fighting in order to show up the Republicans for their hypocrisy.

[SmartAleq]

Got an email from Sen Jeff Merkley this morning calling for Trump's resignation due to his disgusting habit of sexual assault.

Let's not lose sight of the signed flight logs from Epstein's "Lolita Express" that have Trump's name all over them (along with Bill Clinton's, who even ditched his Secret Service detail in order to have unmonitored fun on Epstein's private rape island) and that suit has been brought against him by a girl who was thirteen when he raped her onboard the plane. Trump is attempting briskly to deny he knew Epstein but is having about as much luck with that as he is with claiming the Access Hollywood tape isn't of him speaking.

Yes, several suits have been brought by Trump's victims but oddly enough tend to get dropped due to threats. Hmmm. Wonder why women don't come forward more often?

[Nisslbody]

Originally Posted by SmartAleq

Got an email from Sen Jeff Merkley this morning calling for Trump's resignation due to his disgusting habit of sexual assault.

Let's not lose sight of the signed flight logs from Epstein's "Lolita Express" that have Trump's name all over them (along with Bill Clinton's, who even ditched his Secret Service detail in order to have unmonitored fun on Epstein's private rape island) and that suit has been brought against him by a girl who was thirteen when he raped her onboard the plane. Trump is attempting briskly to deny he knew Epstein but is having about as much luck with that as he is with claiming the Access Hollywood tape isn't of him speaking.

Yes, several suits have been brought by Trump's victims but oddly enough tend to get dropped due to threats. Hmmm. Wonder why women don't come forward more often?

Meanwhile, I've seen people referring to the increasing willingness of women to come forward and report sexual harassment as "the sexual harassment hysteria".