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Old 24th February 2022, 09:25 AM
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Chicago Mafia Day 4: Rhapsody in Blue

Chicago Mafia Day 4: Rhapsody in Blue

After going down another internet rabbit hole (I know, not very 1920s—but wait!) I ran into a site that listed some of the musical one-hit wonders of the 1920s. and it included that little-known one-hit wonder Rhapsody in Blue by that obscure composer George Gershwin. Along with a few other one-hit wonders like Blind Willie McTell, but that’s another kind of blue.

At any rate while not part of the musical Chicago it does fit the time period, and seems appropriate for the subject matter of Day 4, which is the demise of the esteemed Bandleader, who did not make it through the night. A sad day indeed; he will be missed.


Guiri was the Bandleader, town, who would never have considered himself a cop, although he got a lot of investigations started. So we’ll call him that.



As his band packed up their instruments for the last time, the trombonist discovered a little piece of paper, folded up and stuff into the bell of his instrument. He unrolled it and found a message in the unmistakable, but almost undecipherable hand of the late Bandleader. Well, the guy had a gift for rhythm but his handwriting looked like pig tracks in the snow. Nevertheless, with the help of one of the sax players, they made out the following words, a legacy left by the Bandleader, although they had no idea what those words were supposed to mean:

N1 Prof P=red team
N2 EW=blue town
N3 Mordenkainen=blue town



They puzzled over this for a while. It didn’t look like lyrics, or like a playlist. Eventually they just shrugged their shoulders. Poor old guiri, they said. Wonder what he was trying to tell us?

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Archangel
Bashorian Clement
Biotop
Colby11
Eristic Widgeon
Mahaloth
Mordenkainen
raventhief
Silverjan

Day 4 will end at noon Chicago time on Tuesday, March 1.

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Old 24th February 2022, 09:29 AM
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Old 24th February 2022, 09:37 AM
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Archangel t
Bashorian Clement t
Biotop ?
Colby11 ?
Eristic Widgeon t
Mahaloth t
Mordenkainen t
raventhief ?
Silverjan ?

My POE then is Silverjan, raventhief, Colby and Biotop.
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Old 24th February 2022, 09:37 AM
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Good results, guiri
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Old 24th February 2022, 09:41 AM
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Sorry to see you go guiri
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Old 24th February 2022, 10:18 AM
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Archangel t
Bashorian Clement t
Biotop ?
Colby11 ?
Eristic Widgeon t
Mahaloth t
Mordenkainen t
raventhief ?
Silverjan ?

My POE then is Silverjan, raventhief, Colby and Biotop.
Thank you guiri for your service!

My POE is the same as yours right now except that Mordenkainen is in it, because I believe if we have a miller we have a Godfather and he is the most likely suspect.

I tracked Eristic last night (pure paranoia, sorry! ) and he visited no one, so he's not the Godfather unless there are two scum left.
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Old 24th February 2022, 10:21 AM
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Raven, re your post in the night thread, it must be TexCat or guiri I saw post that a particular person carried the kill. But for guiri he was guessing, and for TexCat it's WiFoM because she may have known the opposite?

I also surmised that that's how it goes because my role exists, but there are other reasons for me to track so who knows?
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Old 24th February 2022, 10:25 AM
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Archangel t
Bashorian Clement t
Biotop ?
Colby11 ?
Eristic Widgeon t
Mahaloth t
Mordenkainen t
raventhief ?
Silverjan ?

My POE then is Silverjan, raventhief, Colby and Biotop.
Thank you guiri for your service!

My POE is the same as yours right now except that Mordenkainen is in it, because I believe if we have a miller we have a Godfather and he is the most likely suspect.

I tracked Eristic last night (pure paranoia, sorry! ) and he visited no one, so he's not the Godfather unless there are two scum left.
(*Or unless TexCat was specifically misleading us about a specific scum carrying the kill...have to go find that post.)
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Old 24th February 2022, 10:35 AM
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Biotop still looks good from D1 so he's last in my viable * PoE.

Jan prevented Prof. from getting another day to roleblock us.

Raven is getting much better the more she posts. Still could be scum but I don't think so.

I believe BC/Mahaloth, and Eristic can only be scum if there's an extra scum (possible but unlikely).

So I would want to resolve Colby first, then it might change depending on how he flips.
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Old 24th February 2022, 10:44 AM
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Honestly, part of my is cycling all the way back to Silverjan. I was right on Dante and I was saying to Bashorian on the private chat that that I might just be having a great game here.

Still, would probably pick Colby right now. I think Angel's post just before this one makes it pretty clear. Most people, including Jan, have some level of potential town.

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Old 24th February 2022, 10:50 AM
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Raven, re your post in the night thread, it must be TexCat or guiri I saw post that a particular person carried the kill. But for guiri he was guessing, and for TexCat it's WiFoM because she may have known the opposite?

I also surmised that that's how it goes because my role exists, but there are other reasons for me to track so who knows?
Yes right when she claimed it was casually mentioned that she works only detect a scum who was performing the kill.
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Old 24th February 2022, 10:54 AM
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I can absolutely get behind that.

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Old 24th February 2022, 11:17 AM
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Good point about a godfather.

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Old 24th February 2022, 11:20 AM
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I went back to read Colby's reasoning for deathraying Tinker. Or still doesn't seem all that scummy, even though Colby called it scummy as hell. She poked at me for using a whiteboard, and voted him. Which is poking the guy with a deathray.
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Old 24th February 2022, 11:26 AM
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I say something and everyone hushed up.






If I had the luxury of time ToDay, I would waterboard raventhief - if only for saying she uses a whiteboard. But I won't be here.

DanteG seems doomed for the chop. I still have no strong feelings about his alignment. I don't know how the Day will go so will put my vote down where I feel most comfortable now.

Unvote Prof. Pepperwinkle

as he has the whole of Beijing to vouch for him

Vote Colby11

He is my no means the only lurker, but his absence has been mentioned enough times to put him on notice, and I can only imagine that by now he is trying to skate under us.

If I hadn't voted him, I would have gone for Mordenkainen.
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Sorry Tinker…. But I’m doing this… and because that’s scummy as all get out

##Deathray Tinker

Next time, don’t poke the guy with the death ray…
Sorry here is what I was looking at.
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Old 24th February 2022, 11:30 AM
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So that's actually

5 for Dante
3 for Colby
2 for me
1 each for Swammi and Silverjan
and 4 uncast votes
Something else I noticed by speed skimming

Scum occupied the first and third position, and possibly the second.

I don't know why I found that so interesting...I guess for the self awareness.
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Old 24th February 2022, 11:37 AM
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Pretty amazing if the three leading wagons were all anti-town. I could start with Silverjan I guess.
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Old 24th February 2022, 11:40 AM
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Raven, re your post in the night thread, it must be TexCat or guiri I saw post that a particular person carried the kill. But for guiri he was guessing, and for TexCat it's WiFoM because she may have known the opposite?

I also surmised that that's how it goes because my role exists, but there are other reasons for me to track so who knows?
Yes right when she claimed it was casually mentioned that she works only detect a scum who was performing the kill.
Thank you for this. So do we believe TexCat accidentally slipped real information about how scum perform the kill into a fake claim? Or do we believe she intentionally misled us about that part of it?

I'm leaning towards the former (mainly because of my role) but...

No, wait a minute. They were actually roleblocking me. They didn't want me to track them. Prof died and the next night I wasn't roleblocked, so I was blocked by scum.

So yes, it would appear that a particular scum carries the kill.

Eristic can't be scum unless he's the godfather and there's an extra scum, or he forewent a scum Nightkill and someone else shot Guiri.
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Old 24th February 2022, 11:49 AM
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Pretty amazing if the three leading wagons were all anti-town. I could start with Silverjan I guess.
It's pretty amazing that at least 2 of the three to wagons. I was a bit tickled that it was pushed by scum.
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Old 24th February 2022, 11:50 AM
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Pretty amazing if the three leading wagons were all anti-town. I could start with Silverjan I guess.
It's pretty amazing that at least 2 of the three to wagons. I was a bit tickled that it was pushed by scum.
POSTED by scum. That typo actually changes the bean of my sentence. Usually it just makes for a nice non sequitur
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Old 24th February 2022, 11:51 AM
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Like that. Sorry. Changes the meaning of my sentence. It may also change the bean I guess.
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Old 24th February 2022, 01:34 PM
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It's pretty amazing that at least 2 of the three to wagons. I was a bit tickled that it was pushed by scum.
POSTED by scum. That typo actually changes the bean of my sentence. Usually it just makes for a nice non sequitur
Sorry, what do you mean by posted? I don't understand.
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Old 24th February 2022, 01:38 PM
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Oh it was a typo. I said I was tickled that the wagon info was PUSHED by scum, and that was a typo for POSTED by scum.
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Old 24th February 2022, 01:43 PM
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I know it's a typo, but what does Posted by scum mean? (Like I don't get why you were tickled that the wagon info was posted by scum.)
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Old 24th February 2022, 01:45 PM
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The prof was the one who posted it. For some reason him highlighting the top three, especially, made me giggle. But just a tiny bit.
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Old 24th February 2022, 01:46 PM
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My brain can be a very strange place sometimes Angel.
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Old 24th February 2022, 02:05 PM
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I can understand if y’all think that I’m scum… but I’m not…

Though I know this leaves us in a tough spot… I think SJan should get a pass based on her shooting…

So to me it’s either Biotop or raventhief. I’ll post a vote later
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Old 24th February 2022, 02:19 PM
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Oh! Okay! I get it now, thanks. (Moving Monday, my brain is fried.)
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My brain can be a very strange place sometimes Angel.


Strange, I didn't know I was playing this game.

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Old 24th February 2022, 07:06 PM
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A Scum Silverjan might shoot Prof. Pepperwinkle. raventhief could be Scum. But I also think Colby11 is the best bet.

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Old 24th February 2022, 07:39 PM
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I feel REALLY certain that, after losing two scumbos in two Days, scum did not come into Day Three with the intention of aggressively bussing. So the people who joined the quick pileon early in the Day look very good. Silverjan is near-lock town, considering she was the 4th vote on Tex and shot Prof. raven also looks very good for putting down the 5th vote, but at that point you have to consider bussing. Mahaloth was 6th, and since there was no counterwagon that could well be bussing.

Mordenkainen -- unimpressive vote record and has been laying very low. Still, though there could be a Godfather and it could be him, Occam says he's probably just town.

The Masons -- Vote record not great. On Day 2 they were both on Jan, the other 2 days they split their votes between the scum and the as-yet-unflipped counterwagon. I still think claiming Mason in his very first post would be a crazy strategy for non-Town. But maybe if he needed to find the rest of his team it might make sense.

Biotop -- Vote record is good but not great. Was early on the Dante wagon, but that might have been bussing. He joined the Tex wagon too late to make any difference.

Colby -- Well, we can pretty sure he's not 3P. His voting interactions with Dante and Prof actually look really good, but could just be excellent fakery. And it just seems like one of the killers must be non-town.

Biotop and Colby are my immediate PoE right now. I keep going back and forth on which would be the better vote, but it looks like the mob has pretty much spoken anyway.
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Old 24th February 2022, 07:55 PM
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EW, what is your opinion of Third Party?
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Old 24th February 2022, 08:23 PM
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Good question. I don't know what to think. Maybe Tinker was the only 3P, but it's hard to imagine what the victory condition for a solo bookie would be.

Essentially everybody but (probably) Colby or Mordenkainencould be 3P. It's very difficult to hunt for third parties when you don't know whether they exist and, if they do, what their victory condition would be.

There seems to be some tension between the fact that Tinker wasn't a killing power, the lack of any unexplained kills, and Colby's claim that the 3P are a threat to town. I suppose that's a point against Colby, maybe.

Essentially, until and unless we learn more about any third party, I'm just hunting for scum and hoping for the best.

What do you think?
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Old 24th February 2022, 08:32 PM
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I think if 3P was so dangerous there would have been extra kills or at least something to indicate their presence other than Tinker. The 3P absence is weird. The Bashorian/Mahaloth pair are really unlikely to be a 3P team IMHO.
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That's a good point about Silverjan being early on the wagon especially when she has a meta of not liking to bus. But I'm not sure how it can be discounted that she isn't 3P.
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Mahaloth is just town. I tested him enough in the mason thread, and while it's true I was leery at first, I have no doubt at this point. The point about differed-alignment masons being gastard is a good one also.
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And EW, what leads you to Colby being less likely to be 3P than Jan?
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Old 24th February 2022, 09:09 PM
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Because there are only three wincons, so presumably any 3P are Tinker's teammates (though as discussed this isn't entirely certain).

Jan could very well be 3P, but I'm not going to consider voting for her until we've taken down at least one more scum.
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It seems overpowered for Town to have three vigs. With all the other Town powers that have been revealed that is probably too much vig-iness. A Scum one-shot vig is a much more likely scenario. And Colby fits the bill better than SJ for that.
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I'm not sure how Colby fits better than Silverjan but it's okay. I think town is winning this game right now and can afford to do what it wants.
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Colby11 (5): Archangel (9), Mahaloth (10), raventhief (12), Bashorian Clement (13), Biotop (30)
Not voting: Colby11, Eristic Widgen, Mordenkainen, Silverjan

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Voting History:
post #9: Archangel voted Colby
post #10: Mahaloth voted Colby
post #12: raventhief voted Colby
post #13: Bashorian Clement voted Colby
post #30: Biotop voted Colby11

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A Scum Silverjan might shoot Prof. Pepperwinkle. raventhief could be Scum. But I also think Colby11 is the best bet.

And vote for a scum Texcat on the same Day, surely you know me better than that.
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One thing that is rattling around in my brain is that EW and Morde etc are cleared... But (multiple) investigative powers implies a godfather the same way a tracker implies a carried kill.
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I'm not sure how Colby fits better than Silverjan but it's okay. I think town is winning this game right now and can afford to do what it wants.
Due to victimology I think. Colby has killed one person and that was a third party, so whether he's scum or town, not a teammate. SJ has killed two, one town, and one of who was scum (and thus, if she were scum, a teammate of hers), and then promptly voted another scumbalina right after that.

Could she be hard play bussing? Sure. I was in a game where scum won because my teammate hard bussed right out of the gate. Threw his teammates right under the bus. He got so much town cred for that that he was seen as "lock town".
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One thing that is rattling around in my brain is that EW and Morde etc are cleared... But (multiple) investigative powers implies a godfather the same way a tracker implies a carried kill.
I’m with you on this and I think we have to avoid Eristic/Mordenkainen *both* getting to endgame because 🤯.

We have time though to deal with this issue. (I think?)
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I hope so. There are most likely two non-town left and I am hard pressed to figure out who they could be.
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Totally confused by this-- you've used your power every night but we've only had one extra death at night that I can think of. Were you blocked that you know of?
This will be cleared up Tonight.
Was it?
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Day One

14, 49, 51 fluff
47 astute post spotting contradiction in Pleo’s claim, proposing to test it. Follows up in 78 and 79.
80 votes for Dante; second vote after Swammi. Based on dislike of “I’ll be back” posts.
122 questions Pleo’s announcement that he will stop posting for the Day
123 expects lots of bloodshed
156 claims Town in response to question from Jan
157 Presses Dante; good look for him, he didn’t just park the vote and leave
160 thinks non-killing 3P faction unlikely
161 theorizes that lots of killing powers may be making people afraid to post much
165 asks Prof to clarify a comment; point is that multivote/multiball makes vote analysis hard

Night One

20 Rah.

Day Two

25 reminds the late Swammi that his vote still counts
39 says he asked mod to clarify about flips, got no useful response
69 announces his arrival in thread
70 questions me about my thoughts about the lack of role info in Tinker’s flip (Mod clarifies this error in 71, Bio asks followup in 72)
83 blames meds for incorrect word usage
100 is suspicious of those who formed the Prof and Swammi wagons after Tinker’s death
106 questions LightFoot about her Prof vote
123 doesn’t think Colby is scum, mild sus of Jan, OK with Bashorian, OK with waiting for Colby and Squink to show up, sus of Tex and raven for vote movements after Tinker kill. Points out, presciently, that Swammi voters look worse because Prof voters haven’t been proven wrong. Suspicious of Prof. Thinks he has spotted a Town tell from Angel. Undecided on LightFoot. Thinks Pleo likely 3P.
So: at this point Scum Bio has bussed one teammate and is scumreading the other two. Seems improbable.
125 likes my theory that there could be two bookies competing against each other
128, 129, 132, 133 expands his case against Pleo in response to a question from me, but in the end isn’t sure whether to vote him
136 says my plan to treat Pleo as Town for now is “probably as good as any”
137 wishes Jan would show up
138 votes Prof, goes to bed
230 unvotes, not sure what to do
258 admits to misreading rules
273, 315 fluff
319 presses me for “will reread and be back” promise
322 wonders if vigs have to kill only during Day
336 discusses possible 3P roles with Tex
361 votes Pleo
383 corrects votecount

Night Two

20 happy that Angel’s Town tell was correct

Day Three

24 demands full claim from Prof
25, 173, 229, 235 fluff
48 presses Prof
53 dissatisfied with BS response to 48, votes Prof
75 questions Colby about his new claim that he has a limited number of bullets
77 agrees with me (not sure about whether Prof is likely a roleblocker and/or that Jan should shoot him)
92 will follow Angel to Tex if Prof is vigged; asks Mahaloth about power results. Anticipating MRI.
108 votes TexCat
146 votes her again; I guess the robot missed the first one?
171 comments on how much more limited Colby’s claimed power is than Jan’s
172 agrees with guiri that BC is likely Town
224, 227 claims non-Mason
233 clarifies for guiri about Colby’s claim as guiri is putting together list of claims
237 asks Jan’s opinion of other vigs
242 agrees with Jan that “it all seems a bit much”
244 speculates about whether Dizzy made a save Night 2
246 going to bed
262 speculates that Tex may be able to steal guns once she has found them
262, 266, 269, 271, 274, 282 wondering about 3P, possible roles, etc.

Night Three

3 happy with Tex flip

Day Four (through post 47)


30 votes Colby, also sus of raven and Jan
32 asks my opinion of 3P
34 agrees with me that they shouldn’t be a high priority
39 thinks one of the vigs must be scum and Colby is likeliest

CONCLUSIONS: Looks pretty Town. Would have to be very hard bussing to be scum, and his thought processes have looked good. He’s been asking good hard questions. He’s excellent scum, but this would be one of his better performances.
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Old 25th February 2022, 09:03 AM
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COLBY

Day One

86 Thinks Pleo and Jan are both Town. Otherwise hems and haws, wants to vote Dante but not sure. Dante leads Jan 3-2 at this point, so Colby’s immediately shutting down the possibility of voting for Dante’s only counterwagon actually looks really good for him.
247 claims Town in response to Jan’s question
249 KILLS TINKER (flips 264)

Night One

22 claims to have death ray which will work until he hits someone who isn’t a “threat to town”. Note that he is not yet mentioning a limit on his number of shots. Was surprised by Dante flip.

Day Two

13 votes Mahaloth based on meta; also suspects Prof.
159 fluff
160 surprised to not be dead
161 points out to Jan that killing in secret was not an option for him
162 votes Prof, also sus of Jan. Fourth vote on the wagon, a hard bus if it’s a bus.

Day Three

74 votes Prof, says he has no bullets, the first time the issue of limited shots has been raised by him.
83 clarifies in response to Bio; needs to “fulfill certain requirements” to get more bullets. Hasn’t been told he has lost his powers, and infers from that that Tinker was a “threat to town”.
84 responds to Angel, saying he can kill both Day and Night
120 clarifies that he has both the “can’t hit town” and “must earn shots through some unspecified mechanism” limitations.
121 unvotes the corpse of Prof, sus of Tex but not sure about voting there

Day Four (through post 47)

27 denies being scum…will vote either Biotop or raven

CONCLUSIONS: Again, if he’s scum there’s considerable bussing, with him voting for Dante and Prof voting for him. Avoiding Tex vote on D3 looks kind of bad. The claim was kind of weird in that he left out a major detail and then spontaneously came out with it two Days later.

Well, he wouldn’t have to be bussing as hard as Biotop to be scum, and he’s more known for bussing. And he is the most sus of the 3 vig claims, so I’ll remove any lingering suspense about Today’s outcome and

vote Colby11
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Old 25th February 2022, 09:05 AM
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I think it's past time for Colby to give us a full claim.

I am also very interested in hearing what power has been so marvelous that Mahaloth insists on using it every Night, but which has done Town no obvious good so far.
 


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