All Night Chroma – Tickets on Sale

[Kaiveran]

SETUP: SEMI-CLOSED

There are no distinct Nights or Days. This game has a single combined phase called a Movement, where everyone votes on someone to execute and the Mafia privately choose someone to kill (plus the use of any personal abilities, natch.) To avoid overlaps, the Mafia can specify a backup kill in case their primary target is voted out.

The game is split into 3 color categories. The results of investigations are based on Colors rather than alignment, and only the Color of dead players will be revealed. The possible Colors are:

• RED. The majority of RED players are Mafia-aligned and start the game with 5 Chromata.
• GREEN. The majority of GREEN players are Town-aligned and start the game with 2 Chromata.
• BLUE. The majority of BLUE players are Town-aligned and start the game with 5 Chromata

All players will be fully aware of their Color, Chroma count, and alignment. A minority of players within a Color category may have a different alignment and/or starting Chroma count than is indicated. Color does not affect normal information and alignment mechanics – all Townies and all Mafia share singular respective win conditions, and all Mafia know each other.

Chromata (sg. Chroma) are points that every player in the game can spend on personal abilities each movement. Every player has access to each of these abilities, unless otherwise specified:

• Scan: 3 Chromata. Learn the apparent color of a player. If the player is Painted in the same Movement, you learn the Painted color.
• Kill: 3 Chromata, Town exclusive. Eliminate a player from the game, unless they are Guarded.
• Guard: 2 Chromata. Protect a player from one kill. Multiple Guards can stack: 2 Guards protect from 2 kills.
• Paint: 2 Chromata, Scum exclusive. Make a player appear as the color of your choice for that Movement. Their true color will still be revealed upon death.
• Track: 1 Chroma. Learn who a player targeted. If they did not visibly target anyone, you will be told “No Action Detected”. Cannot detect the Mafia kill if the Mafia are down to 1 member.
• Block: 1 Chroma. Stop actions a player attempts to execute from working. Blocked players do not visit their targets, and thus Blocked actions do not show up on Track reports. Cannot prevent the Mafia kill if the Mafia are down to 1 member.

Every player starts with a set amount of Chromata. Via special events or conditions within the first few Movements (announced at the Movement's start) there may be opportunities to earn more.

Using the same personal abilities multiple times consecutively is prohibited. For example, if you used Track during Movement 1, you would have to use an ability that is not Track during Movement 2.

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1. Mendie Taoma
2. Eristic Widgeon
3. LightFoot
4. raventhief
5. Mahaloth
6. Precambrianmollusc
7. Vanta Black
8. Bashorian Clement
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[LightFoot]

how does one gain the chroma points?

[LightFoot]

are we told in advance when he current 'movement' will end?

[LightFoot]

RED, majority Mafia-aligned with 5 Chromata

what means this

the majority of the reds are mafia aligned--- so not all?
do the reds start with 5 chromata each?

clarify if possible??

[Precambrianmollusc]

Not understanding the card flip thing at all.
We will have an alignment mafia and town
We buy powers with points or chromata ok, howndonwe get those?
We vote for an ejection and scum pick a kill and powers are resolved at the same time
Card flips ???????? No clue

[Eristic Widgeon]

Card flip just means the revealing of role and alignment by the Mod once a player dies.

[Kaiveran]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

are we told in advance when he current 'movement' will end?

Yes

Originally Posted by LightFoot

RED, majority Mafia-aligned with 5 Chromata

what means this

the majority of the reds are mafia aligned--- so not all?
do the reds start with 5 chromata each?

clarify if possible??

The majority of Reds are Mafia starting with 5 chromatic. So it's possible that a Red isn't Mafia, and/or starts with a different amount .

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Seems like you all use "reveal" instead of "(card)flip" correct?

I'll be able to answer more stuff / edit the op when I get home from work

[Precambrianmollusc]

I get the card flop = reveal, I am just not following the majority mafia aligned with 5 cromata thing.
If we get a flip on someone we ejected I am just not sure what knowing they are majority mafia aligned means

If they were the informed minority mafia , and the other were the uninformed town aligned majority then if get red = scum, green = low power town , blue = town with more chips to play with.

Small words please as I am hard of thinking

[Precambrianmollusc]

Oh so the card flip is just indicative that they might be something, but smaller chance they are not. Ok

[Precambrianmollusc]

Oh so the card flip is just indicative that they might be something, but smaller chance they are not. Ok so we wont be 100% sure we ejected a scum.
This will be interesting

[Precambrianmollusc]

Odd , only seeing your posts only after I post. Well on a flight to Rio for the next 10 hrs , alas work not fun, will stop asking daft questions and read the full rules later.
Later all.

[Mendie Taoma]

What the hell has Meeko gotten me into now?

/in

[Mendie Taoma]

All Night Chroma Clarification Questions, the first

1. I have quoted the entire opening / introduction to this game.

2. I am going to dissect it chronologically, as needed, as advised by questions and comments.


SETUP: SEMI-CLOSED

3. Shenanigans at the start. I feel like I already need to be experienced in the Jimi Hendrix kind of way.

There are no distinct Nights or Days. Every stage of the game (called a Movement), everyone votes on someone to execute and the Mafia privately choose someone to kill[/B] (plus the use of any personal abilities, natch.) To avoid overlaps, the Mafia can specify a backup kill in case their primary target is voted out.

4. Well, that torpedoes my heading format from the get go.

4.1 Not like any one gets to pick how they want to do things.

4.2 Well, we'll always have Vegas.

The game is split into 3 Color categories, and the results of cardflips/investigations are based on Colors rather than alignment. The possible colors are:

• RED, majority Mafia-aligned with 5 Chromata
• GREEN, majority Town-aligned with 2 Chromata
• BLUE, majority Town-aligned with 5 Chromata

All players will be fully aware of their color and Chroma count.

5. Can our Mod comment on if this game is 3P or not?

5.1 Because All of the above, vis a vis "Color" reads as a standard (heh) 2 party / alignment set up, stretched over the three colors.

5.2 I just don't see how a third party can work, while supporting the entire Chromas.

6. Really think that all of us are overthinking this. Yes. I'm Saying that. ((Meeko lifts a finger here, and then drops it, silently.))

Chromata (sg. Chroma) are points that every player in the game can spend on personal abilities, as follows:

• Scan: 3 Chromata. Learn the apparent color of a player. If the player is Painted in the same Movement, you learn the Painted color.
• Kill: 3 Chromata, Town exclusive. Eliminate a player from the game, unless they are Guarded.
• Guard: 2 Chromata. Protect a player from one kill. Multiple Guards can stack: 2 Guards protect from 2 kills.
• Paint: 2 Chromata, Scum exclusive. Make a player appear as the color of your choice for that Movement. Cardflips will still reveal their true color.
• Track: 1 Chroma. Learn who a player targeted. If they did not visibly target anyone, you will be told “No Action Detected”. Cannot detect the Mafia kill if the Mafia are down to 1 member.
• Block: 1 Chroma. Stop actions a player attempts to execute from working. Blocked players do not visit their targets, and thus Blocked actions do not show up on Track reports. Cannot prevent the Mafia kill if the Mafia are down to 1 member.

7. Ho boy. We have a few things here now, don't we?

7.1 The assumption is that everyone is more or less "" Build your own role "" in a given economy, and currency.

7.1.1 It would be all to easy to fall into a trap here, and assume a lot of assumptions. Assumedly.

7.2 Does this list exhaust all of the powers?

7.3 Will some players have discounts, and or have power given to them from outside of this economy?

7.4 Am I reading too much into "Personal" in personal powers?

7.4.1 Is it possible to read too much into things, in any mafia game, much less from a new to us (Save for the last game) player?



Using the same personal abilities multiple times consecutively is prohibited. For example, if you used Track during Movement 1, you would have to use an ability that is not Track during Movement 2.

8. This probably informs an answer to 7.2 in the positive.

(And a couple other things that are best kept surprises.)

9. Well, if they are on par with what of the setup you have revealed thus far, I guess that will flatten out the curve I mentioned earlier.

1. Mendie

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[Mendie Taoma]

All Night Chroma Clarification Questions, the second, and totally not a NETA, you guys, I mean it!


10. But speaking of NETA, Can our Mod clarify Edits, PM sharing, Screenshots, Claims, and all other sundry of killjoynesses ?

[Mendie Taoma]

Guard: 2 Chromata. Protect a player from one kill. Multiple Guards can stack: 2 Guards protect from 2 kills.

Using the same personal abilities multiple times consecutively is prohibited. For example, if you used Track during Movement 1, you would have to use an ability that is not Track during Movement 2.

This would seem to suggest that Guards (And therefore, I assume all other "items" bought for one .... movement, can't be "saved" or otherwise roll over if unused. Yes?

[Mendie Taoma]

Wait. No Voting?!

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

Wait. No Voting?!

((Didn't I mention less posts? I'm an idiot. But, on the whole, I think I like where this is headed. Does give me a sense of discipline, that is sorely needed, even if I have to burn posts to clarify a headfck of a game. Shh, she's coming back now, I'll try to send some youtubes out to you guys later. ... If anyone can send me an an Anchovy and Pineapple pizza, that would be great, and some Vault Jolt Surge soda, if they still make it...))

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Precambrianmollusc

Card flips ???????? No clue

Originally Posted by Eristic Widgeon

Card flip just means the revealing of role and alignment by the Mod once a player dies.

It is reveal.

IIRC, and not that I ever played IRL, but the game can be played with a deck of 52 cards, with cards taken out for the purpose.

A King, I believe is the card that informs you that you are wolf.

I beileve other court cards have power, non-court cards are vanilla.

[Pleonast]

Interesting ideas. But based on not knowing one’s alignment and not learning the alignment of those eliminated, I would be extremely frustrated playing this rules set.

[Kaiveran]

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

All Night Chroma Clarification Questions, the second, and totally not a NETA, you guys, I mean it!


10. But speaking of NETA, Can our Mod clarify Edits, PM sharing, Screenshots, Claims, and all other sundry of killjoynesses ?

Edits, PM Sharing, Screenshots are all disallowed. Claims are allowed as there will be no revealing flavor in Role PMs.

Just like Vegas, there will be a separate rules and Q&A thread, and unlike EW I like mine very detailed.

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

Guard: 2 Chromata. Protect a player from one kill. Multiple Guards can stack: 2 Guards protect from 2 kills.

Using the same personal abilities multiple times consecutively is prohibited. For example, if you used Track during Movement 1, you would have to use an ability that is not Track during Movement 2.

This would seem to suggest that Guards (And therefore, I assume all other "items" bought for one .... movement, can't be "saved" or otherwise roll over if unused. Yes?

Yes. Abilities this game do not work like reservable items: you spend Chromata on the ability you want and it is executed immediately at the end of the Movement.

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

Wait. No Voting?!

Yes voting!

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I've made some edits to the OP that hopefully make things clearer and answer some of the other questions.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Interesting ideas. But based on not knowing one’s alignment and not learning the alignment of those eliminated, I would be extremely frustrated playing this rules set.

You're just saying that because you won't be able to claim Day 1.


No. This is not a slip back into the Meeko account. It's intentional.

[Eristic Widgeon]

But we do know our own alignment, right?

I’ll sign up to play btw.

[LightFoot]

i will play more questions to follow

[Mendie Taoma]

Will a player ever belong to more than one color at the same time?

I mean, yes " Paint " exists, but that is replacement, and not an addition, correct?

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Interesting ideas. But based on not knowing one’s alignment and not learning the alignment of those eliminated, I would be extremely frustrated playing this rules set.

Ok. But.

I mean, if you are Scum, you still have scum chat.

If you aren't scum, you don't.

So, if you don't get an invite....

Or, am I missing something?

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

Ok. But.

I mean, if you are Scum, you still have scum chat.

If you aren't scum, you don't.

So, if you don't get an invite....

Or, am I missing something?

"" All Mafia Know Each Other ""


There you go, that suffices this logic here. No scum chat, but you still know.

[Bashorian Clement]

/in

[raventhief]

A player knows their own color- but do they also know alignment?

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by Meeko

You're just saying that because you won't be able to claim Day 1.


No. This is not a slip back into the Meeko account. It's intentional.

Silly Meeko, it’s easier to make claims when you know less. Information is a burden--you constantly have to guard against revealing more than you want to.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Silly Meeko, it’s easier to make claims when you know less. Information is a burden--you constantly have to guard against revealing more than you want to.

But, what do I do with this information?

[Kaiveran]

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

Will a player ever belong to more than one color at the same time?

I mean, yes " Paint " exists, but that is replacement, and not an addition, correct?

Yes, if you look at the Paint description it explicitly doesn't affect their true color which is revealed on death.

Also
@Pleonast
@Eristic Widgeon
@raventhief
You do know your alignment.

[Mahaloth]

/in

[Pleonast]

Thanks for the update. I encourage others to play--experimental games can be some of the most interesting.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

i will play more questions to follow

since you missed it

[Mendie Taoma]

Meeko wants to say something. And well, It pertains to one of the greatest shows to come into it's own, at least on the international scale, since Covid-19.

Taskmaster.


I'll let Meeko take over here, but if you take two seconds to look at this, you'll hopefully understand that this transcends "both" of us.

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(( Oh My God, New Taskmaster! I can't believe it. Like I knew New Zealand approved a new "Series" of Taskmaster, but like, damn, they are on top of it. You are in for an insane "hour" of Telly here, if you've never seen this absolute "I want whatever they are are on" insanity fest. And Yes, that comes from me, Meeko, saying that. You know so, because, well, the parentheses. Also, Thanks for sending in the Anchovy and Pineapple Pizza. ... Long story short, is that I was damn curious about it once, and did indeed order it, and it is amazing. Deep Dish / Pan with extra cheese. It works in a way you won't believe. I mean, of course, if you can even get on with the component parts to begin with. .... I have yet to see Vault and Jolt anywhere, and apparently Surge is only At Burger King nowadays. .... Not that Meeko needs Surge, .... but look up that caffeine content, and then look up Coffee, and understand, I don't really do coffee. Like, I go months at a time without even one cup of coffee. ..... more digression, I know. ))

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The long awaited return, FINALLY!

TASKMASTER NEW ZEALAND S3:E! F**K Golf

"Over the course of the next 10 weeks, these five comedians will degrade themselves more than Will Smith at an Oscars ceremony."

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"Looking at this first task, and I see a wide variety of footwear choices.For example, you Paul, have on Crocs."

"Yes, as we have already established, I am a winner, through and through, and I picked red Crocs."

--

"You know, like in Lethal Weapon, You've Seen the first Lethal Weapon? It had Mel Gibson, before he went Scottish."

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"... Yeah, I don't want to clean that out of my ass."

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"Justine, I'll give you three points for that, You seem to have a low threshold for satisfaction, and that will put you in good stuff for life."

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Kaiveran

Yes, if you look at the Paint description it explicitly doesn't affect their true color which is revealed on death.

I was trying to confirm that we can {HA!} " Sus " out alignment, based on this color algebra. I think that we can.

Also, I don't think that this is as experimental as Kaiveran lets on. I feel like it's been done before, perhaps a few times.

I really, really, really do think that by like, D2 we will know what we are doing.

[Precambrianmollusc]

In please

[Mendie Taoma]

There has to be some parallel with getting bored / going insane with waiting so long for this game to start, and finding it easier and easier to revert back to Meeko.

Like, I want to, possibly need to, not give into the Meekoisms as much. Personally and or Sock related as either or both might be. But I'm running on empty here.

(( No particular reason for this song then, nope, not at all.



Equally as unrelated, anyone here read "House Of Leaves" ?

I'm on chapter 3. IYKYK. ))

[LightFoot]

pregame strat chat.
If a player is randed Red and Town.
do they say something??

If they are scanned they will be outed and fellow Town won't want to believe them if they don't pre-empt it? thoughts?

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

pregame strat chat.
If a player is randed Red and Town.
do they say something??

If they are scanned they will be outed and fellow Town won't want to believe them if they don't pre-empt it? thoughts?

I've been chomping at the bit to get into strategy, too.

But, I wasn't sure, frankly, how to square any of what I said, once I get my alignment, and if those two are at odds.

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

pregame strat chat.
If a player is randed Red and Town.
do they say something??

If they are scanned they will be outed and fellow Town won't want to believe them if they don't pre-empt it? thoughts?

I think that old brainteaser, where you have three boxes, each one has one of the following labels "Oranges", "Bananas", "Oranges and Bananas" --- But you know that every box is mis-labeled.

You can only pull one fruit, from one box, in order to correctly label each box.

Which one do you pull from?


Or something.

I mean, legit, this is a known brainteaser, but Im brain farting on it right now.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

I've been chomping at the bit to get into strategy, too.

But, I wasn't sure, frankly, how to square any of what I said, once I get my alignment, and if those two are at odds.

i see that side- but it is ust theory at this point.
I mean Scum will likely try it too if it is considered a good idea.

Bottom line color does not guarantee alignment- so that 'power' may not be worth much.. sigh

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

I think that old brainteaser, where you have three boxes, each one has one of the following labels "Oranges", "Bananas", "Oranges and Bananas" --- But you know that every box is mis-labeled.

You can only pull one fruit, from one box, in order to correctly label each box.

Which one do you pull from?


Or something.

I mean, legit, this is a known brainteaser, but Im brain farting on it right now.

1. Pull from the box mislabeled Oranges and Bananas.
2. Note the fruit pulled. [Let's say Oranges]
3. The mislabeled "Oranges and Banana" box should be given the Oranges label.
4.Put the Oranges and Bananas label on the still mislabeled Banana box.
5.Move the Banana label to the previously mislabeled Oranges box.

Right?

Cause, I mean, You have to get the Banana box involved, because it to is mislabeled, and doesn't get solved if you just make the 1:1 switch.

Something like this.

And indeed, something like this, get us through the game.

And, additionally, I think that "Majority", the Reds, I think that's going to be like only 1 town.

No real basis to put that on, but, I think that, if we have a chance at winning --- Put another way, if the game is to be anywhere near playable for Town ---
It needs to be closer to 1 town in a sea of Reds [Heh] and include the ""algebra"" of the above Oranages and Bananas. Indeed, this approaches my use of Algebra earlier. Perhaps Calculus fit, but... Dude*, my math stopped at Algebra, even if I suffered a college level Calc coures, and a college level Finance course. .... and JAVA..... And, well, yeah.

Point is, my Bachelors in Marketing has done nothing but gather dust.

* Meeko slipped in here. I don't care at the present moment. I think that I would have the same reaction here, regardless

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

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1. Pull from the box mislabeled Oranges and Bananas.
2. Note the fruit pulled. [Let's say Oranges]
3. The mislabeled "Oranges and Banana" box should be given the Oranges label.
4.Put the Oranges and Bananas label on the still mislabeled Banana box.
5.Move the Banana label to the previously mislabeled Oranges box.

Right?

Cause, I mean, You have to get the Banana box involved, because it to is mislabeled, and doesn't get solved if you just make the 1:1 switch.

Something like this.

And indeed, something like this, get us through the game.

And, additionally, I think that "Majority", the Reds, I think that's going to be like only 1 town.

No real basis to put that on, but, I think that, if we have a chance at winning --- Put another way, if the game is to be anywhere near playable for Town ---
It needs to be closer to 1 town in a sea of Reds [Heh] and include the ""algebra"" of the above Oranages and Bananas. Indeed, this approaches my use of Algebra earlier. Perhaps Calculus fit, but... Dude*, my math stopped at Algebra, even if I suffered a college level Calc coures, and a college level Finance course. .... and JAVA..... And, well, yeah.

Point is, my Bachelors in Marketing has done nothing but gather dust.

* Meeko slipped in here. I don't care at the present moment. I think that I would have the same reaction here, regardless

You have the right o it. but you both know that..

Unfortantly it sucks to be the red Town - but whatcha gonna do right?

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

You have the right o it. but you both know that..

Unfortantly it sucks to be the red Town - but whatcha gonna do right?

I have the right o it ?

I keep going back to the fact that we have been told to expect F***ery with the rules, as they have so far been given.

I think the entire game is going to want to turn right, and the game will end up giving us three lefts. [Thus, having us arrive at a right.]

[Bashorian Clement]

/out

[raventhief]

Oh sure.

/In

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

/out

Originally Posted by raventhief

Oh sure.

/In

What do you mean "Offset" ?

[Precambrianmollusc]

What's the eta on the rule set and start?

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Precambrianmollusc

What's the eta on the rule set and start?

I'm not sure those questions can even begin to be entertained until we complete sign-ups.

We aren't even at half.

It doesn't bode well for Kaiveran's Mod debut.