Portland will soon be experiencing an M&M shortage

[Marlitharn]

Portland opens first U.S. marijuana cafe.

First tiny little step towards legalization? Gods, I hope so. The booze isn't working like it used to.

I am inexplicably delighted by the fact that the cafe opened in a building formerly known as "Rumpspankers".

[Victor Frankenstein]

OH NO! Rumpspankers is GONE?!?!

Fucking potheads.

[SoylentPopTart]

If you have your medical marijuana card, you can smoke your fill for $25/month. That's probably not going to be a profitable business model unless they charge a dollar for every M & M.

[Taur]

Smartie's just the baker that cafe needs.

[Victor Frankenstein]

Originally Posted by SoylentPopTart

If you have your medical marijuana card, you can smoke your fill for $25/month. That's probably not going to be a profitable business model unless they charge a dollar for every M & M.

I bet it sounded like a great idea when they were baked.

Dude 1: "Yeah man. Then we could like open a pot cafe."

Dude 2: "Huhuhuhuh... sweeeeet dude. We could sell brownies. huhuhuh."

Dude1: "And like everyone can get high for.. I dunno,. $25 bucks a month."

Dude 2: "Dude. I would totally hang out there and get high for $25 a month. That's like,. umm.. affordable and shit."

Dude 1: "Cool. So would I. (cough-cough)"

[The Futility of Nihilism]

Originally Posted by SoylentPopTart

If you have your medical marijuana card, you can smoke your fill for $25/month. That's probably not going to be a profitable business model unless they charge a dollar for every M & M.

Man wouldn't it be funny if that was their business model? $25 a month gets you entry, but while you are "medicating", so to speak, you can't very well go out on the street, but hey! They have this conveniently located in-store snack bar with munchies that are fairly priced at the industry average ... the industry of movie theater snack counters, that is.

[Marlitharn]

According to the article, they are going to be selling food. A crowd of potheads pretty much stranded inside the building and you control the food supply? Man, it's a restaurateur's wet dream.

They're also hoping to offer something called Cannabis Community College. I wonder if they'll have an intramural football team.

[Victor Frankenstein]

Originally Posted by Marlitharn

A crowd of potheads pretty much stranded inside the building and you control the food supply? Man, it's a restaurateur's wet dream.

They better hire very patient wait staff.

[SoylentPopTart]

Originally Posted by 7

They better hire very patient wait staff.

waiter: can I help you?

customer: awww, dude, you know what would be freaking awesome right now?

waiter: what?

customer: um, if we all jumped off our chairs at the same time we could start an earthquake.

waiter: I see, but would you like something to eat?

customer: oh yeah, you know what would be awesome right now?

waiter: what?

customer: why do you keep saying 'what?'

[SmartAleq]

Originally Posted by Board Taurus

Smartie's just the baker that cafe needs.

Something extraordinarily similar has crossed my mind...

[Zeener Diode]

Not to throw water on anyone's pot parade... but has anyone considered what the exposure to second-hand smoke in this place might elicit? I'm guessing the anti-smoking crowd might not sit too well with this injunction to their efforts to eliminate smoking in public places. And the fact that it's a "members only" establishment doesn't hold water, since both fraternal members-only clubs like the Eagles and the Elks were forced to send their puffing dues-payers outside to light up.

[lifeboat]

Originally Posted by SoylentPopTart

waiter: can I help you?

customer: awww, dude, you know what would be freaking awesome right now?

waiter: what?

customer: um, if we all jumped off our chairs at the same time we could start an earthquake.

waiter: I see, but would you like something to eat?

customer: oh yeah, you know what would be awesome right now?

waiter: what?

customer: why do you keep saying 'what?'

OK, I lol'd. The voice I could hear as I read that was Jimbo from the Simpsons.

[Taur]

Originally Posted by SmartAleq

Something extraordinarily similar has crossed my mind...

DO EEET!

Originally Posted by Zeener Diode

Not to throw water on anyone's pot parade... but has anyone considered what the exposure to second-hand smoke in this place might elicit?

A contact high?

I'm guessing the anti-smoking crowd might not sit too well with this injunction to their efforts to eliminate smoking in public places. And the fact that it's a "members only" establishment doesn't hold water, since both fraternal members-only clubs like the Eagles and the Elks were forced to send their puffing dues-payers outside to light up.

The club is for NORML members:

The creation of the cafe comes almost a month after the Obama administration told federal attorneys not to prosecute patients who use marijuana for medical reasons or dispensaries in states which have legalized them.

[Zeener Diode]

I forgot that there are specific establishments that cater to smokers (like this place), so this might not meet with the ire of the smoke nazis.

[Marlitharn]

Originally Posted by Zeener Diode

I forgot that there are specific establishments that cater to smokers (like this place), so this might not meet with the ire of the smoke nazis.

Dude, quit being all rational and junk and pass the Fritos.

Seriously, though, and kind of along those same lines, I was wondering last night how the law enforcement angle might work. Say for example the cops have to respond to a fight in progress (yeah, I know, but just go with me for a second) at the Cannabis Cafe. They're inside for several minutes breathing deeply. Half an hour later while back out on patrol they get involved in a pursuit and crash their car. Anytime an officer is involved in an accident he has to pee in a cup and take a breathylizer test (around here, anyway). But if our cops pee in a cup (2 cops 1 cup, with Dennis Franz...sorry) now they're going to test positive for marijuana. So, legally speaking, what happens next?

[Zeener Diode]

It sounds similar to what cops encounter when they bust a meth lab. I'm sure they'll take precautions.

And anyway, it's not like a few minutes inside the Cafe will make you psychotic; at the very worst, you'll get sleepy or hungry. Probably get a headache.

[SmartAleq]

They could make the whole thing vaporizer only, which would neatly sidestep pretty much every issue related to second hand smoke, contact high, etc.

[Joey P]

Originally Posted by Marlitharn

Dude, quit being all rational and junk and pass the Fritos.

Seriously, though, and kind of along those same lines, I was wondering last night how the law enforcement angle might work. Say for example the cops have to respond to a fight in progress (yeah, I know, but just go with me for a second) at the Cannabis Cafe. They're inside for several minutes breathing deeply. Half an hour later while back out on patrol they get involved in a pursuit and crash their car. Anytime an officer is involved in an accident he has to pee in a cup and take a breathylizer test (around here, anyway). But if our cops pee in a cup (2 cops 1 cup, with Dennis Franz...sorry) now they're going to test positive for marijuana. So, legally speaking, what happens next?

My first question is, how soon after inhaling marijuana smoke will it show up in urine?
The second thing is, when you take drug tests there's a threshold, if you are below that threshold it is considered a false positive and as far as anyone is concerned it's the same as negative. Simply inhaling second hand pot smoke for 30 minutes should keep you well below that threshold. (Totally off the top of my head, I want to say the threshold for THC is 60ng/ml).

[SmartAleq]

Well, and don't forget that what gets tested for in urine is THC metabolites, not active THC present in the body at the time of the test--which is why you can test positive for weed after abstaining for up to three months. If they were going to drug test a cop I think they'd probably do a blood test for actual present THC and not go firing a cop for showing metabolites that might indicate a party over the weekend or might reflect spending too long busting a pot cafe.

[Zeener Diode]

Originally Posted by SmartAleq

They could make the whole thing vaporizer only, which would neatly sidestep pretty much every issue related to second hand smoke, contact high, etc.

Or consuming it by other means (brownies, anyone?).

Originally Posted by Joey P

My first question is, how soon after inhaling marijuana smoke will it show up in urine?
The second thing is, when you take drug tests there's a threshold, if you are below that threshold it is considered a false positive and as far as anyone is concerned it's the same as negative. Simply inhaling second hand pot smoke for 30 minutes should keep you well below that threshold. (Totally off the top of my head, I want to say the threshold for THC is 60ng/ml).

That's the problem many card-holders encounter if they are actively employed or seeking employment: an employer is not required to disallow urine testing for those who have legal rights to use cannabis. In certain jobs (like driving, or using heavy equipment), you cannot legally perform the work if you are using cannabis (per Federal guidelines). In other jobs it's a gray area. Like waiting tables: half of the people I knew when I worked there got high on a regular basis, but not on the job. Do you force a potential busperson to a urine test?

[Doc Cathode]

Originally Posted by SmartAleq

They could make the whole thing vaporizer only, which would neatly sidestep pretty much every issue related to second hand smoke, contact high, etc.

I've predicted for years now that marijuana will be legalized in the next few decades, but ALL smoking will be banned in public places. You'll be able to buy THC at a liquor store, but you can only light up at home.

[SmartAleq]

Originally Posted by Doc Cathode

I've predicted for years now that marijuana will be legalized in the next few decades, but ALL smoking will be banned in public places. You'll be able to buy THC at a liquor store, but you can only light up at home.

And that's fair enough--smoke of any kind is irritating and can be damaging to those with compromised respiratory function. Plus, it's just stinky. I'd really prefer to see any public venues as vaporizer or munchies only, because actual smoke would be detrimental to the overall experience in the place. Plus, it wouldn't be nice to the neighborhood, 'cuz pot smoke can be quite unpleasant in heavy concentrations, especially if it's stale. Yuck.

[Zeener Diode]

Originally Posted by SmartAleq

...
'cuz pot smoke can be quite unpleasant in heavy concentrations, especially if it's stale. Yuck.

You don't know what stale is* until you've entered a room where your friends have been smoking resins from their bongs.


*Or maybe you have. I'm not here to judge.

[SmartAleq]

I speak from deep and dire experience!

[Zeener Diode]

[Best quote* from Rodney Dangerfield, as he enters a college dorm] "Geez, it smells like Amsterdam in here."



*Although it might be another comedian; I'm kinda vague about the source.

[Darmund]

Yeah, I remember those days. Mixing resin with ash and calling it good. Mmm, desperation...

[Joey P]

Originally Posted by Darmund

Yeah, I remember those days. Mixing resin with ash and calling it good. Mmm, desperation...

Ahhh, the days of smoking resin, good for a nice headache. I remember back in college we were out of weed so we smoked a big bowl of stems.

[Zeener Diode]

Originally Posted by Joey P

Ahhh, the days of smoking resin, good for a nice headache. I remember back in college we were out of weed so we smoked a big bowl of stems.

Try chewing them while riding the bus to work.

Not me, but a buddy used to do that. The first time I put a stem in my mouth was the last.

[Kerryoke]

Ah, good old Portland! That's the city I grew up in, and I'm glad to see it hasn't changed. :hijack:

[SoylentPopTart]

Originally Posted by Doc Cathode

I've predicted for years now that marijuana will be legalized in the next few decades, but ALL smoking will be banned in public places. You'll be able to buy THC at a liquor store, but you can only light up at home.

That compromise would be way too fair. It will never happen.

(I only want to smoke at home anyways...it's nice and comfy here and the Doritos are plentiful)

[cormac]

i wonder if its possible to open up such a cafe but using legal highs instead (as in the cannabis substitutes you can buy)?

[Marlitharn]

Doesn't a vaporizer give you a better hit, anyway? Assuming they ever legalize the stuff in my lifetime, I still wouldn't want to hang out stewing in the secondhand smoke; smelling like I just rolled out of a van at a Grateful Dead concert doesn't appeal to me.

Obviously if I had no other options I'd do it, but I wouldn't want to.

[SmartAleq]

Vaporizers are the bomb, especially the Volcano. The real ones are quite spendy, but work amazingly well and hold up under hard use. Sure, it'll look like an old timey laughing gas party, but that has the patina of tradition, yeah?

[Mako]

I've never had much of a liking for the stuff - it disagrees with me - but my ex was once found crawling around my lawn, baked like a pie and going;

"Oh my god I'm so tiny!"

So yeah, big yuks there and no harm done.

But I wish someone had told me about all this; I need to call my broker and invest ten grand in Pringles futures, stat.

[Zeener Diode]

I'm stockpiling Doritos as we speak.

[Marlitharn]

I endorse anything that (IIRC from my misspent youth) can make Domino's pizza crusts taste like food of the freaking gods.

[Zeener Diode]

Pizza crusts make excellent croutons!


Regards
The Ganga Gourmet

[SmartAleq]

Especially when you toss them in "herb" butter before you bake them!

[Zeener Diode]

Bake dem? O nonono.

We SMOKE dem!

[SmartAleq]

Hmmm, I think we've identified your problem...