do you own "your" thread?

[JackieLikesVariety]

if you write an OP, is it YOUR thread?

I'm asking because of some snark in the First World Problems thread.

I think yes it is, at least sort of, because you are hosting. you decide the subject but also the tone. you chose what kind of snacks to set out.

what do y'all think?

more cheese?

[Dragonlady]

So far, the mods tend to let the OP decide the direction of the thread.
That said, Atalanta seems to be pushing the rule a bit.

[PSXer]

no the chicago tribune does

[AuntiePam]

I don't care one way or the other, but threads that devolve into bickering about whether someone's derailing the thread are a waste of time.

[JackieLikesVariety]

Originally Posted by Dragonlady

So far, the mods tend to let the OP decide the direction of the thread.

I think that is a good thing, generally.

glass of wine? I have a nice Riesling. oh, wait, it's 8 AM...cup of coffee?

no the chicago tribune does

damn the lamestream media!

beer?

I don't care one way or the other, but threads that devolve into bickering about whether someone's derailing the thread are a waste of time.

I like a good hijack (and would welcome one here, frankly) but the bickering is tiresome. damn it.

warm scone? I'll be putting out more crackers in a minute...

[Wolf Larsen]

I like turtles.

[Giraffe]

It varies by forum. In the Pit, BYB and GBB to some extent we tend not to worry as much about keeping things on topic. In the more topical/serious forums, we'll step in if we notice and/or someone asks us to help stop a hijack.

I haven't been reading that Pit thread and no one has reported it, so I can't say our lack of action in this case is based on policy or just inattention.

[JackieLikesVariety]

Originally Posted by Wolf Larsen

I like turtles.

as a pet or a snack?

In the Pit, BYB and GBB to some extent we tend not to worry as much about keeping things on topic. In the more topical/serious forums, we'll step in if we notice and/or someone asks us to help stop a hijack.

good info!

I haven't been reading that Pit thread and no one has reported it, so I can't say our lack of action in this case is based on policy or just inattention.

it's all good. have some chips & dip.

[Khampelf]

Originally Posted by JackieLikesVariety

if you write an OP, is it YOUR thread?

To the extent you should address valid comments and help the thread flow, I suppose.

Originally Posted by JackieLikesVariety

m asking because of some snark in the First World Problems thread.

That wasn't snark.

I seldom explain myself, but here I will.

What Atalanta got was 45% misplaced anger, 35% class warfare, 10% tough guy internet bullshit and 10% Hannibal Lector style lesson in civility.

I was in tears when I wrote what I wrote, and picked First World Problems because it was the closest first forum that I saw that was close to sneering snipes or whatever. I had just heard about the neighbor's loss of child. I heard her "How is that a first world problem?" as "What does that matter, they're only Hispanics."

I saw it was already in the pit, but that hardly mattered at the time.
I vaguely remember Atalanta having words with Dragonlady, and decided to cut loose with all the sour spoiled holiday bile I had handy.

I had fucktons.

Originally Posted by JackieLikesVariety

I think yes it is, at least sort of, because you are hosting. you decide the subject but also the tone. you chose what kind of snacks to set out.

Yeah, but it's easier to invite a rude, unruly guest to leave, so the analogy falls down, most do. I stopped when she called "Uncle". (Here I leave something she can be all "I did not! I did Not!" and the folderall and ballyhoo can continue. I haven't fucked with anyone's head in a while.)

Originally Posted by JackieLikesVariety

what do y'all think?

I think there's people behind the screens we see, people.

Originally Posted by JackieLikesVariety

more cheese?

I will Brie hospitable and accept some, thank you.


I know some people hate it when I address comments one by one, but it's just all parse and parcel of what I like to call "The Khampelf Experience".

[Chacoguy]

Originally Posted by Khampelf

I was in tears when I wrote what I wrote. I had just heard about the neighbor's loss of child.

Damn dude, I'm really sorry to hear that.

[stormie]

Originally Posted by JackieLikesVariety

it's all good. have some turtles & dip.

Thanks! and a coffee, plz

_________________

Khampy, I am so sorry.


I posted before I read your post.

[Diamonds02]

I own this board!

[Khampelf]

Well, damn nice of you to let us play here.

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[JackieLikesVariety]

That wasn't snark.

I started this thinking more of what Atalanta was saying to Dragonlady. I read your words as 100% anger and assumed you & she have past problems this was about

I had fucktons.

I'm so sorry to hear it
I can't think of one damn thing that would be worse for them then losing a child.

I think there's people behind the screens we see, people.

yep, everyone is, even Brian. he thinks we are imaginary people and that's his problem.

I know some people hate it when I address comments one by one, but it's just all parse and parcel of what I like to call "The Khampelf Experience"

what's wrong with that? makes it more clear. be nice if it was in two colors, as well.

[sturmhauke]

Originally Posted by Khampelf

I heard her "How is that a first world problem?" as "What does that matter, they're only Hispanics."

I think she was just being clueless with that, not dismissively racist. As in, #firstworldproblems is for trivial, tongue-in-cheek complaints that can only happen when you aren't worrying about actual shit like death and starvation and plague.

[Pere]

That's right. By definition (AIUI), if you're legitimately disturbed by a real tragedy or hardship, that's not a "first world" problem.

[Atalanta]

Nm

[Atalanta]

Originally Posted by Pere

That's right. By definition (AIUI), if you're legitimately disturbed by a real tragedy or hardship, that's not a "first world" problem.

Ding ding ding.

But to be honest I didn't even read the post throroughly. I saw something about him dressing up blah blah then a miserable "merry fucking Xmas to me" or whatever. It was a vent about something serious I see now, according to this thread. Not sure how I missed death but if someone chose that thread to vent and grieve--then I can see how I missed it. Not right for that thread.

The fact I've paid any of this as much attention as I have makes me want to cut.

ETA: I reread that post and amidst the grammatical pile of crap I guess I can see now that someone died. Oddly no one else seemed to catch it either until he translated it here. Sorry for the death Kamper but honestly if you chose to interpret what I wrote as being some dismissive racist comment that warrants you calling me a bitch and wishing bodily harm on me, that's on you.

[Khampelf]

Of course, and I'll pay for it kharmically. I grabbed your thread in my distraught state. Even if you were merely mcing the thread, it seemed callous. So, I overreacted, that's on me and we're cool until the next time you piss me off. Enjoy your Xmas Eve, and that's sincere.

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[Khampelf]

Can we hug and sing Kumbayah now?

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[Atalanta]

Originally Posted by Khampelf

Of course, and I'll pay for it kharmically. I grabbed your thread in my distraught state. Even if you were merely mcing the thread, it seemed callous. So, I overreacted, that's on me and we're cool until the next time you piss me off. Enjoy your Xmas Eve, and that's sincere.

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I read that post again. I didn't even know you lived in a Mexican community. You made a broad jump laden in extreme accusation and harsh reactivity. I accept your apology but encourage you to take pause before making statements and assumptions like that. I'm just some random person online. You may not be so fortunate with the outcome in a different context. You have a good holiday season as well. No, I don't hug.

PS: No one has the power to piss anyone off. We choose to be pissed off. Just like we can choose not to be. Social constructivism. Think about it. The more you know.

[pickle berry]

Originally Posted by Atalanta

PS: No one has the power to piss anyone off. We choose to be pissed off. Just like we can choose not to be. Social constructivism. Think about it. The more you know.

No one likes a preachy bitch. Think about it. The more you know.

[Blue Sock]

Originally Posted by Atalanta

PS: No one has the power to piss anyone off. We choose to be pissed off. Just like we can choose not to be. Social constructivism. Think about it. The more you know.

The clarion call of sociopathic narcissists everywhere.

It takes real effort to be that much of a graceless cunt. Kudos.

[Atalanta]

NM wrong thread. Defection.

[Khampelf]

Originally Posted by Atalanta

I read that post again. I didn't even know you lived in a Mexican community. You made a broad jump laden in extreme accusation and harsh reactivity. I accept your apology but encourage you to take pause before making statements and assumptions like that. I'm just some random person online. You may not be so fortunate with the outcome in a different context. You have a good holiday season as well. No, I don't hug.

PS: No one has the power to piss anyone off. We choose to be pissed off. Just like we can choose not to be. Social constructivism. Think about it. The more you know.

Well, I see it didn't take you long.

Yes, I'm responsible for my emotional state, it doesn't mean I'm assigning blame to let someone know they've crossed a line. Criticism doesn't imply censorship, you can behave as you will, but my reaction to it creates a valid emotional reality for me which I can discuss with you without blaming you. Humans aren't logical, it's only a fool who goes looking for sense in a human heart.

I feel you've pissed on the hand I extended.

And when I wish harm upon you, you'll know it.

[Atalanta]

I'm sorry if it came across that way. It wasn't my intent. However, I do believe that we can choose how to react to situations. I don't believe that people have a free pass to (pick your negative word of choice), however, I do believe I have a free pass to choose how I make meaning of it. Perhaps I should have phrased it that way.

I would like to think you aren't wishing harm or revenge on me, or anyone. But if you do, so be it.

[Khampelf]

Originally Posted by Atalanta

I'm sorry if it came across that way.
It wasn't my intent.

That's cool, text is an imperfect medium

Originally Posted by Atalanta

However, I do believe that we can choose how to react to situations.

So do I, ideally. But in the nitty gritty step in gum flat tire world it's a goal, not a behavior. We ain't saints. We got moods. Every damn one of us. Looking for an upside can become habitual, I try and often fall short "Gee, that siren means someone's getting the help they need."

Originally Posted by Atalanta

I don't believe that people have a free pass to (pick your negative word of choice), however, I do believe I have a free pass to choose how I make meaning of it. Perhaps I should have phrased it that way.

Ummmm, then why don't I get this free pass for how I took meaning of what you said? Not sure what you mean 'free pass', really.

Originally Posted by Atalanta

I would like to think you aren't wishing harm or revenge on me, or anyone. But if you do, so be it.

Nah, you're not worth it yet. I dumped on you when I needed to, you don't like it, I'll do my best not to do it again.

Will someone fucking sing kumbayah, already? She says she doesn't hug.

[JackieLikesVariety]

[brownie55]

Originally Posted by Khampelf

That's cool, text is an imperfect medium



So do I, ideally. But in the nitty gritty step in gum flat tire world it's a goal, not a behavior. We ain't saints. We got moods. Every damn one of us. Looking for an upside can become habitual, I try and often fall short "Gee, that siren means someone's getting the help they need."



Ummmm, then why don't I get this free pass for how I took meaning of what you said? Not sure what you mean 'free pass', really.

Nah, you're not worth it yet. I dumped on you when I needed to, you don't like it, I'll do my best not to do it again.

Will someone fucking sing kumbayah, already? She says she doesn't hug.

I was trying to parse the bold, italicized, underlined part out to still show context, but I failed. That part is how Atalanta the Great shows herself to be at a remove from us.

To recap:
Atalanta reaction:
She reads a post in "her thread" that she doesn't understand by her own admission.
She notices the word death and decides that can't be in "her thread."
She attacks you.
You fight back.
Crap sadly follows.

Normal reaction:
One reads a post that one does not understand.
It's got death in it and it's by a poster that is normally coherent.
One thinks, hmmmm, maybe I'll shut the fuck up and lay low, or reread and try to ferret out what happened, or maybe just ask, "Care to explain?"
You explain.
One expresses sympathy.

When someone is an entitled bitch, that bitch must defend the integrity of their thread. It's sad. It also shows what a liar she is. She claims that she read your post and got enough out of it to decide that it did not fit with the light, airy nature of her thread, but still claims to not understand it.

Khampelf, just be thankful you are not the guy that goes home to that. In the same First World Problems thread she "corrected" Chacoguy for complaining about the cold when she was hot. Imagine that all the weather in the world is focused on you. Antarctica, or Madagascar, no matter where you are in the world, the weather you experience is the weather she feels. I pity her patients, even though she won some sort of award for her service. Even her complaints are just sneak brags.

[Nisslbody]

Originally Posted by Pere

That's right. By definition (AIUI), if you're legitimately disturbed by a real tragedy or hardship, that's not a "first world" problem.

Yes, that is true, and I also think it is true that it takes a spectacularly callous and classless person to smack someone down for posting a real problem of that magnitude in a "first world problem" thread for being off-topic.

What I have seen of her behavior, and, after I blocked her, her behavior reflected in others' responses to her, is that she seems like a desperately unhappy person trying just as desperately to convince herself that she is actually happy by telling everyone else how great she's got it.

[Atalanta]

So do I, ideally. But in the nitty gritty step in gum flat tire world it's a goal, not a behavior. We ain't saints. We got moods. Every damn one of us. Looking for an upside can become habitual, I try and often fall short "Gee, that siren means someone's getting the help they need."

I like this. I may steal it, tweak it, and use it with my group.

I agree. It's a process. And it's hard. But I also know that the second my locus of control goes external, it's the second I have set up both myself and the world--expectation, rigidity, etc. I wonder (out loud) if it's more that maybe we don't have a choice in our feelings, but rather what we do next? Like someone can say something and maybe I feel angry (and maybe, because I'm not sure why I have a hard time NOT feeling angry, I can at least choose what to do next?)

I'll have to think about this more. Thanks for the brain candy.

[Atalanta]

Originally Posted by brownie55

... she "corrected" Chacoguy for complaining about the cold when she was hot. Imagine that all the weather in the world is focused on you. Antarctica, or Madagascar, no matter where you are in the world, the weather you experience is the weather she feels.

Are you serious? Really. I'm asking because I can't tell if you're being serious.

[brownie55]

Originally Posted by Atalanta

Are you serious? Really. I'm asking because I can't tell if you're being serious.

Really, what part don't you understand? Here is the post in discussion:

Originally Posted by Atalanta

You meant inside, right? We have the AC running cuz it's too darn hot out.

Did you not correct him because you were experiencing something different and because your observations were not his and you therefore questioned him? If "your thread" is just to complain about "First World Problems" and cold is just as much a problem as hot (unless you have some patent on complaints,) then the only way to take your correction is that you are the center of the universe and the temperature you experience is absolute and only you can determine what others experience. It's not like you did not make the claim.

So, oh, yeah, I am serious because there is no other explanation.

[Atalanta]

Thanks for clarifying.

No further questions or comments.

[Khampelf]

Originally Posted by JackieLikesVariety

Thank You, JLV.

[Khampelf]

Originally Posted by Atalanta

So do I, ideally. But in the nitty gritty step in gum flat tire world it's a goal, not a behavior. We ain't saints. We got moods. Every damn one of us. Looking for an upside can become habitual, I try and often fall short "Gee, that siren means someone's getting the help they need."

I like this. I may steal it, tweak it, and use it with my group.

I agree. It's a process. And it's hard. But I also know that the second my locus of control goes external, it's the second I have set up both myself and the world--expectation, rigidity, etc. I wonder (out loud) if it's more that maybe we don't have a choice in our feelings, but rather what we do next? Like someone can say something and maybe I feel angry (and maybe, because I'm not sure why I have a hard time NOT feeling angry, I can at least choose what to do next?)

I'll have to think about this more. Thanks for the brain candy.

You're welcome. Just be sure to attribute my quote under my working name, "This one guy on the internet"

[Atalanta]

Originally Posted by Khampelf

You're welcome. Just be sure to attribute my quote under my working name, "This one guy on the internet"

You can cite me as "that person on the internet who people don't like and when she writes things like 'that person on the internet who people don't like' it's because she's seeking attention and/or sneak bragging."

[brownie55]

Originally Posted by Atalanta

You can cite me as "that person on the internet who people don't like and when she writes things like 'that person on the internet who people don't like' it's because she's seeking attention and/or sneak bragging."

Can we just call you "some cunt said?"

[Atalanta]

Originally Posted by JackieLikesVariety

Is that a baby white tiger?! I missed this earlier. Like it!