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Greek History Mafia D4
Sario has died.
He was Athanasios Diakos, town self clearer (who would die a cycle after he used his power). Askthepizzaguy has died. He was a recruited Mafia goon. 5 days for day. |
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I didn't think it possible, but I'm more confused than ever now.
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Holy cow. That means he pushed a lynch on his buddy mahaloth.
vote Lightfoot |
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I'm so confused.
Did I die due to my power, or was I NKed? Go town!!!! ![]() |
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My village.... I fought so hard.... for you. That this would be the end for me, is truly sad. |
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Askthepizzaguy was formerly Socrates, but was converted to Johnhughthom
No wonder he's dead. |
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Well my lunch target was killed. Back to the drawing board.
Anyone? |
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Lynch target
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The Dead
Zeener: Town - Lynch Lightfoot v1: Town - Lynch Archangel: Town - NK Maha: Scum - Lynch Sario: Town - Autodeath Pizza: Scum - NK - Recruited The Living Claimed Meeko: Claimed Cop Lulz: Claimed Vanilla (Meeko Confirmed) Double A: Claimed Vanilla (Meeko Confirmed) @Meeko, any results from last Night? The Living Unclaimed 2. SisterCoyote 5. guiri 6. Sario 8. Dizzy/Lightfoot v2 10. BillMc 12. Sooh 13. idrinkthere4iam 14. Scathach At this point, I'm going strictly with my gut: , explain to me why we shouldn't kill you toDay. Also, Scathach, you know Pizza's death hasn't remotely cleared you, right? |
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That makes two of us, Sister C.
Now Mahaloth. Would he clear his scum mates in his posts, or would he avoid them? To me it also looks like he spewed lulz and Double A town by not questioning Meeko's cop view on them like others have. If Pizza was recruited that means some of his game is clear town game. I was fairly certain he was town at least up until I left for London. In fact, the most significant shift in his posting came between D3 and N3. In N3 he didn't say much, in contrast to what he had done before in the game. I'll have to read more thoroughly through his posts to be sure though. If I'm right he had one Night as scum. It might be worth thinking about in case his earlier cases make sense. He did an awful lot of work there, so if we can use it for something we should. I have a few people that I want to go back and case. |
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I'm not sure sario auto deathed - hopefully scum wasted their NK on him not knowing that he would die this cycle anyway. That would mean pizza could be a vig kill? (Although we already lost a town one shot vig if I'm not mistaken so there's that ). I can't fathom how pizzas death would be a scum kill but then I don't know how recruitment works this game. Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk |
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So Pizza was recruited N2 or D3 ( depending on how that works)
They decided to bus Mahaloth for Town cred to get him (Pizza) to end game ? Or do you see it another way? Which means Scum didn’t manage a NK last Night – or they wasted . |
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Last night's kill was strange. Unless somebody has a mechanic where the person firing the shot is auto-killed, like a veteran perhaps? Doesn't the person trying to NK a vet die? Maybe that could explain Pizza's death?
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Scat- we have seen 2 one shot Town vigs so far this game.
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two?
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You and?
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where I was certain that he was a oneshot vig as well- used it making my case even. ![]() |
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One shot bullet proof. Not vig
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Farewell Sario and Pizza. Sario's role is quite interesting, especially in a game with recruitment, claim, potentially get recruited, join the other side and die? Sounds a bit sucky for the player but prevents a confirmed town cruising to the end as scum.
Is there a defined resolution order of night actions? Can you share it? |
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And neither did I, I was discussing the implications of a self-destructing role in a game with recruitment. He wasn't revealed as scum so he wasn't recruited.
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And if I told you that I didn't get any?
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That's what she said.
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LFv1 went on about it when they were being lynched- and claimed-- no one corrected that misconception- so that was the thought I had stuck in me head. What is your take on the results of this past Night? hast thou thoughts? |
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Okay, since Pizza was recruited I guess the scum tried to recruit or scan someone N1. It'd be weird if they couldn't scan for recruits. I'd say 1-2 starting scum and probably not too many more recruits.
I'd wager that Mahaloth was the recruiter. Pizza had been pushing for Scathach nearly all game. Working off of Sooh's theory, that would mean townie Pizza proposed that Scath is scum. I don't know if that's enough for me to vote for her, though, cause Pizza was also adamant about lynching Lightfoot. and that's all the analysis I have in me what the fuck is going on |
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I'm leaning toward lightfootv2 being town, as it doesn't seem likely that a scum v2 would continue to make the same "two vig" mistake. |
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How does everyone feel about Sister C and Idrink?
I kind of want to leave Lulz and Double A alone today, and I feel like Guiri has done quite a bit of solving. I didn't like Dizzie, so I'm going to watch closely what Lightfoot does in her place. Bill, I have no clue. He could go either way for me, but perhaps some of the things he points out are more favorable for town to know than scum. At this point |
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Is that a hypothetical, or did you not receive any results? I'm presuming you are not going to answer the other questions about your results on lulz and Double A, right? Quote:
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The Living Unclaimed 2. SisterCoyote Pizza, Lightfoot, Maha 5. guiri Zeener, Lightfoot, Maha 8. Dizzy/Light Lulz, Lulz, Pizza 10. BillMc Lulz, Archangel, no vote 12. Sooh no vote, Lightfoot, Maha 13. idrinkthere Zeener, Double A, no vote 14. Scathach Double A, Double A, Pizza Sister Coyote was instrumental in the Mahaloth lynch. Don't have a strong feeling about Drinkie right now, need to review. I realise I eventually moved my vote, and I know you were traveling, but I thought you'd respond to my case and vote on you yesterDay. |
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Voting History: post #4: lulz voted Lightfoot post #12: SisterCoyote voted Sooh post #35: Sooh voted Idrinkthere4iam |
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I investigated ATPG, I did not receive results.
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I didn't mention it anymore, because I realized I must have dreamt up the whole thing. I didn't find the case I was looking for. I was never sure on Scathach, still am not, so I was glad when the lynch moved to Mahaloth. He seemed like a better candidate for me. I did vote Scathach in order to get a better read on Pizza and other people in the game. Also I didn't have the time or opportunity to make my own case yesterDay, so I wanted to sheep my best town read. Obviously I may have been wrong about him being town at that point. |
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No. I wanted to lynch pizza.
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Guiri can you tell me how you were able to solve the cypher so quickly?
looking back I think Pizza was the one sending them- and he was I believe recruited by that time. scathach same question- with the added bit that you didn't notice that Guiri already had and you did it from the taptalk thing that you stated was so difficult to make elaborate posts from? |
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Question - can @Meeko or someone else clear up whether Meeko definitively said that he had investigated Double A and lulz as town or was it just as vanilla? I thought he said town, but going back and rereading he only clearly says vanilla?
(by someone else - I mean if someone has a link to a post where Meeko says exactly what he meant) Sure - it looked very much like a caesar cipher so I tried an online websolver for it. I picked 13 as the key because rot13 is a fairly famous special case of caesar cipher (if it hadn't been 13 I could have brute forced it by trying 1-25 in order). 13 gave me a bunch of obviously latin stuff - google translate then gave the result. It was easy to do on my phone because it's just copy pasting without any real typing. |
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I re-read D3 with a Pizza is Scum in mind.
ATPG yesterDay ( assumed recruited at this point) Quote:
Pizza was pushing hard for Scathach's lynch for 2 days- started again Day 3- pretty much had it- changed to Mahaloth- succeeded- Did Pizza change the push to get Town cred- because Mahaloth was OK with it and Scat wasn't could both of Pizza's Scum leans actually be Scum ? Is one of his 'clears' Scum? Scum had to have agreed to this ploy- right? I think Pizza thought/hoped he would breeze through the rest of the game with Town cred from the Maha lynch - He would have had to followed through with Scat toDay and if Scum that would not have worked- so Scat is looking more Town to me |
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rephrased- I don't think Pizza thought for a minute that he would be NK'd so his comments after his recruitment and the birth of the 'plan for cred' have clues to who he was going to mislynch after he got his hero card.
Back to find his LyLo comment and check the timing of that. I will likely be in and out - death in the family and other bad news- |
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I think ATPG was recruited the same night he was shot. I think if he was recruited earlier then he would have actually tried to defend Maha in some way or tried to come up with an excuse to justify a "not scum" read on Maha.
Real question... If there is another one-shot vig out there should they claim? |
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I've been suspicious of your play for days now and this seals it for me. Also, even if I'm wrong (which I don't think I am), your flip will tell us something about Meeko, if not Double A. |
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