If you put/cook onions in your meatloaf, YOU ARE DEAD TO ME!

[Idle Thoughts]

What the hell did the world ever do to you to make such shitty meatloaf (if you're one who cooks it with onions in it)?

[Radical Edward]

Edward's meatloaf recipe:


Ingredients

2 lb ground beef, chuck, or round
1 package of saltine crackers
1 teeny can of Hunt's tomato paste with garlic, basil, and oregano
2 eggs
salt and pepper
Italian seasoning (basil, oregano, rosemary, sage, thyme, garlic... I think)
about 1 cup each of:

chopped tomatoes (you can use drained, canned ones)
diced onion
diced bell pepper

Directions

Ok, chop up your veggies. You can cook them first to make them good and soft, but I usually do not. Then mix together the ground beef, the tomato paste, the eggs, the Italian seasoning, and salt and pepper, and 2/3 of the diced vegetables. This is best done by hand. Yeah, it's gross, but it won't kill you. It needs to be very evenly mixed. Crush up the crackers and mix them in. When it's properly mixed up, it should be pretty soggy but not dripping. If it seems dry, add more tomato paste or some tomato sauce. Remember that some of the moisture will soak in from the vegetables, so don't add too much. Press the mixture down into a metal or glass baking pan (a cake pan, a loaf pan, anything with tall sides) and top it with the remaining vegetables and a good sprinkling of the Italian seasonings. Cook at about 350 degrees F for maybe an hour, checking after the first 30 minutes. It's done when it's done. Some of the veggies on top might be a little blackened on the edges, and that's ok. Meatloaf is best with mashed potatoes and another side veggie. Oh, and a roll. Do not put ketchup on it. DO NOT.

[Radical Edward]

IT HAS ONIONS AND IT'S GOOD AND YOU CAN SUCK IT

[Chacoguy]

Any 'Loaf' that isn't bread, is gross.

[Idle Thoughts]

Originally Posted by Radical Edward

IT HAS ONIONS AND IT'S GOOD AND YOU CAN SUCK IT

WHY, I NEVER...!

[Radical Edward]

OH YEAH WELL I ALWAYS

[Kat]

Rad Ed makes it right. BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T PUT ICKY BROWN GRAVY ON IT!!!

[Radical Edward]

OH MY FUCKING GOD BROWN GRAVY? WHO WOULD DO THAT?

[Radical Edward]

MY MOM USES RICE INSTEAD OF CRACKERS AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FULL OF MAGGOTS

[Kat]

Originally Posted by Radical Edward

OH MY FUCKING GOD BROWN GRAVY? WHO WOULD DO THAT?

Demented people

[Khampelf]

Good meatloaf doesn't need gravy, and onions are a nice touch. Mediocre meatloaf is improved by gravy and bad meatloaf gets ketchup. I've had meatloaf using oatmeal that was awesome.

[Glazer]

Don't let yer meat loaf!

[Solomon]

I would rather go to prison than eat meatloaf

[Idle Thoughts]

I like it more so with tomato sauce or ketchup...but I won't say no to the Stouffer's Meatloaf, which I find fairly good and which comes in gravy.

[Rat Diva]

Originally Posted by Khampelf

Good meatloaf doesn't need gravy, and onions are a nice touch. Mediocre meatloaf is improved by gravy and bad meatloaf gets ketchup. I've had meatloaf using oatmeal that was awesome.

I make my meatloaf with oatmeal AND ONIONS and it is amazeballs.

I mean, I'm sure I'm dead to Idle already for one reason or another, so I'm not actually changing the status quo here.

[Idle Thoughts]

See, this stuff I like.




It's not the greatest, obviously..far from it...
...but I don't think it's BAD, per se.

I know some of you, however, would think it would be akin to being a HEATHEN calling this "abomination" meatloaf.

...but you know what I got to say to that? That you have snobby taste in food, that's what.

Look, I like homemade meatloaf, from scratch, just as much as the next guy...and you won't see me disagree that it's probably the best kind..
..but I don't MIND this kind either. It's the kind I grew up on. It's the kind I can eat and still be happy with if that's all there is... so while people who are hungry and like meatloaf might be (during those times when money is more tight) "Well, we just won't have meatloaf", I'll be buying this, the cheapest kind, and still enjoying it. I, therefore, get to have a WIDER RANGE of food at my disposal than those who will turn their nose up at it. IMO, this makes me have the advantage.
Those snobs will only have their own, homemade meatloaf to enjoy. THEY WILL BE FOREVER LIMITED TO JUST THAT. Me, I will always have a BEVY of meatloaf varieties to pick from, all of which I find tasty. I can love the best kind...and yet, still be happy with the shittiest kind as well. That gives ME more options than YOU when it comes to dinner. Every time.

So take that to your onions and smoke it.

EDIT: I should tag @Borborygmi and @The Futility of Nihilism in this post, because I know they're a fan of my passionate food rants/speeches (or rants in general)

[Rat Diva]

Originally Posted by Radical Edward

MY MOM USES RICE INSTEAD OF CRACKERS AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S FULL OF MAGGOTS

Sounds like my mom's porcupine meatballs*, which OK SO THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE FULL OF MAGGOTS BUT THEY TASTE FUCKING DELICIOUS

*ground beef and pork, white rice, onions, garlic, eggs, lots of salt and pepper, browned and simmered in sweet and sour tomato sauce. Also makes a most righteous filling for stuffed peppers or piggies**.

**the cabbage roll kind, not the oinky kind.

[Rat Diva]

Originally Posted by Idle Thoughts

Those snobs will only have their own, homemade meatloaf to enjoy. THEY WILL BE FOREVER LIMITED TO JUST THAT. Me, I will always have a BEVY of meatloaf varieties to pick from, all of which I find tasty. I can love the best kind...

Hey, I have no problem with convenience foods, which can be confirmed by a quick glance into my freezer.

Therefore, I reject your hypothesis and say that you're far more limited in choice of meatloaves by your anti-onion stance, whereas I am free to enjoy oniony, meatloafy goodness at will in addition to the onionless types.

So neener neener neener, onion h8er.

PS: and don't forget @Fenris, the gourmand with boxing powers.

PPS: And furthermore,

[Idle Thoughts]

Originally Posted by Rat Diva

So neener neener neener, onion h8er.

When you say that...smile.

Originally Posted by Rat Diva

PS: and don't forget @Fenris the gourmand with boxing powers.

True, although I'm not as sure he's in love with my rants/speeches about stuff as those other two are.

With me quoting this he'll be mentioned twice now.

[Idle Thoughts]

Originally Posted by Rat Diva

Onions are the most vile food on this earth. THEY ARE GOOD IN NOTHING.

[Rat Diva]

Originally Posted by Idle Thoughts

When you say that...smile.

I am smiling :smug:

[Radical Edward]

How can you be such a foodie and hate something as essential as fucking onions? I put onion in everything. Soup, salad, beans, sandwiches, burgers, you name it.

[Idle Thoughts]

You're focused so much on smiling you're not paying attention to coding/tagging.

[Idle Thoughts]

Originally Posted by Radical Edward

How can you be such a foodie and hate something as essential as fucking onions?

Because onions are disgusting. The taste of one will literally make me gag heavily. Every time. I cannot even eat anything that ONION HAS BEEN ON, because it leaves a strong onion RESIDUE that just mars the whole taste of something.

I actually think it might be on par with why some people dislike cilantro...I think I read that some people just cannot enjoy or like onions, that they taste vile to them.

Originally Posted by Radical Edward

I put onion in everything. Soup, salad, beans, sandwiches, burgers, you name it.

And yet, I'm willing to look past that fatal flaw in your personality and still think of you as a good person!

[Rat Diva]

[Khampelf]

Originally Posted by Idle Thoughts

Onions are the most vile food on this earth. THEY ARE GOOD IN NOTHING.

It's hard to have French onion soup without them.

And French onion soup is good eating, Maynard.

[Idle Thoughts]

Originally Posted by Khampelf

And French onion soup is good eating, Maynard.

Bolding mine.

I've lived for 37 years and the only two people I have ever heard use that phrase are you (just now, once) and my 68 year old stepfather, who uses it all the time---almost at every dinner, he says it to my mom--and who I thought it was a personal quote or in joke to him that he just made up.

So your usage of it here (something I've never seen another person do before other than him) shocked me and prompted me to look it up and see the origin Huh. Learn something new every day.

[Khampelf]

I can't remember where I picked it up. Is it an old commercial?

Onions onions onions onions onions onions onions onions.

[Idle Thoughts]

Yep, Malt-o-Meal. I looked up "good STUFF, Maynard", though, because that's what stepdad always said and, yep, it looks like it's "stuff" and not "eating".

[Glazer]

Gravy goes on meatloaf when served with mashed potatoes. Tomato sauce is nice with loaded baked potatoe. Or as a sandwich on french bread.

[Glazer]

Onions go on everything but desert.

[Kat]

Onions are awesome in many dishes.

[Random Precision]

Meatloaf without onions is just baked hamburger. Which is vile. You might as well put ketchup on it, because I'm not eating it anyway.

[Zeener Diode]

I prefer to add onion soup mix to my meatloaf. All the goodness of onions without the slimy bits.

[Guinastasia]

ALL meatloaf is disgusting, onions or not.

[Zeener Diode]

Originally Posted by Guinastasia

ALL meatloaf is disgusting, onions or not.

That's why God gave us ketchup. Wonderful, forgiving, smothering, ketchup.

[Jaglavak]

Originally Posted by Guinastasia

ALL meatloaf is disgusting, onions or not.

It don't take all kinds, we just got all kinds.

[Glazer]

I think some people have never had proper meatloaf.
Beef, sausage, minced onion, garlic, bread crumbs, egg and spices. What's not to love. Too many people over cook and dry it out. But done right it'll make ya slap yo momma.

[Jaglavak]

Originally Posted by Idle Thoughts

...I don't think it's BAD, per se.

If the meal tastes the same as the cardboard it came in, it's not food. #lifehack

[Idle Thoughts]

It doesn't (IMO).

[Jaglavak]

If you're going to do it, why not get down and do it.

[Idle Thoughts]

Oh, come ON, Jaglavak...God! I'm trying to eat here!

[Rat Diva]

Originally Posted by Guinastasia

ALL meatloaf is disgusting, onions or not.

::adds Guin to the list::

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Idle Thoughts

What the hell did the world ever do to you to make such shitty meatloaf (if you're one who cooks it with onions in it)?

My MOMMY puts onions in her meatloaf*! YOU THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN YOU'RE IN THE BOX!!!!!! YOU JUST THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!



*So do I. But when it Mommy-Fenris's meatloaf is celestial, while mine is merely sublime.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Zeener Diode

I prefer to add onion soup mix to my meatloaf. All the goodness of onions without the slimy bits.

My mom approves and so do I. Although I like both.

You get a coveted

and a just for fun.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Guinastasia

ALL meatloaf is disgusting, onions or not.

Blasphemy! To the BOX! with you Madame!

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Radical Edward

How can you be such a foodie and hate something as essential as fucking onions? I put onion in everything. Soup, salad, beans, sandwiches, burgers, you name it.

I concur. You get a rare and an unboxing.

Also a just for fun.

[Rat Diva]

Awww, I never get anything

[Borborygmi]

Originally Posted by Idle Thoughts

I should tag @Borborygmi and @The Futility of Nihilism in this post, because I know they're a fan of my passionate food rants/speeches (or rants in general)

I guess with the call-out here I should weigh in on this thread but, wow, where to start?

First, Idle seems self-aware that his rant about food is nuts, which on the surface makes it appear to be less crazy and more performance art. But to the trained eye there is a genuine pathology in play here and the man clearly needs help. Not wanting onions in your meatloaf is a weird quirk. Not wanting onions in any of your food is sheer madness.

Even the sane among us will never agree on the entirety of any meatloaf recipe but Ed's recipe includes the essentials: you want ground beef as your meat, saltine crackers as your starch, eggs, and diced onions. I'm pleased to see the concept of brown gravy on meatloaf getting a fair measure of the scorn it deserves in this thread. I personally like to add a generous amount of ketchup to my serving, but no hard feelings towards anyone who wants to leave it off.

Although I've never seen it myself, I've heard tell that some people bake a hard-boiled egg into their meatloaf. Hopefully this is just an old wives' tale, because that is an Idlesque-level of crazy.

[Jaglavak]

That's a Scottish custom. And as we know, they're all crazy anyway.