152: Durple haze all in my brain. Lately Snark, it don't seem the same

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First? First! In yo FACE and fuck you for the earworm, haj, you dickasaurus!

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An excellent tittle, how do you do it? oh and scuse me while I kiss this guy!

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Not bad. I woulda gone with "Hey, Durp, where you going with that snark in your hand?"

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I woulda gone with "Hey, Durp, where you going with that snark in your hand?"

That's why I am the one who comes up with the titles.

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I was just starting to like the last tread...

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First? First! In yo FACE and fuck you for the earworm, haj, you dickasaurus!

Purple Haze is NOT an earworm.



You should always remember this tune...

Incedentally, Haj, the line is 'Purple haze, all THROUGH my brain', not 'all IN my brain'. Title fail... You're starting to live down to Fenris' level. Keep trying. Sooner or later, you'll get down to his standards...

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Incedentally, Haj, the line is 'Purple haze, all THROUGH my brain', .

No it fucking isn't.

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That's why I am the one who comes up with the titles.

Woah. And you're just going to bust out and admit that in public? I dunno, man...

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No it fucking isn't.

Sure it is. Just go listen to the first line of my link. I just listened to it again, and it's just as I said. Denial about how much you drink or smoke is one thing. Denying song lyrics is quite another.

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Sure it is. Just go listen to the first line of my link. I just listened to it again, and it's just as I said.

I'll concede that it's not very clear on the recorded version so I can see why you are confused. Bring up youtube on the many live versions out there or like every song lyric website on the 'net and you will see that it is fucking not as you said. Read the history about how the song was conceived and you will further learn that "through" doesn't make sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJunCsrhJjg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK8zHR_TTI8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZAVG9JbvHI

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Denial about how much you drink or smoke is one thing. Denying song lyrics is quite another.

Missed your edit.

I don't drink at all. I've never really cared for booze and haven't been anything close to what one would call drunk in well over thirty years. I was a daily weed smoker at one time but those days are long gone. Now it's a couple of hits at a concert and sharing an occasional doob with friends. A one gram vape cartridge lasts me nearly a year.

I do, however, know my music.

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It's 100% "all in my brain." Couldn't possibly be more clear. And to remove all doubt, check out the Buddy Miles cover. You gonna tell Buddy he don't know his Hendrix lyrics? Yeah, didn't think so.

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All I know is;
Jojo left his home in Tucson, Arizona
For some California grass.

Says it all.

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Is there any significant difference between 'all through' and 'all in' anyway? Irregardless. For all intensive purposes. I could care less.

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Hey!

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Mundane Super Hero has the worst luck with talk show hosts. As well as Steven Colbert stealing his jokes, apparantly Joe Rogen is smashing into his car.

https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jo...ence/957296/20

As a bonus, later on in the thread he gives an example of the kind of high humour Colbert stole from him.

https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jo...ence/957296/83

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Mundane Super Hero has the worst luck with talk show hosts. As well as Steven Colbert stealing his jokes, apparantly Joe Rogen is smashing into his car.

https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jo...ence/957296/20

As a bonus, later on in the thread he gives an example of the kind of high humour Colbert stole from him.

https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jo...ence/957296/83

He should sell the dashcam footage to TMZ. Unless, of course, he just road raged with some random bald guy rather than Rogan.

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Continuing the silly Purple Haze aside, just look up any live performance:

https://youtu.be/cJunCsrhJjg

It’s “in my brain.” And it sounds that way on the studio recording to me, too. Geez Louise.

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Is there any significant difference between 'all through' and 'all in' anyway? Irregardless. For all intensive purposes. I could care less.

I could care less about your other words, but don't you go mocking my adorable regionalism!

--JJ, former NH and Massachusetts denizen, still a New Englander at heart

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It turns out he was trolling the Dope because he signed up with his real name!

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So what’s the deal, Neil? Why did you decide to sign up with your own name, to a board where everybody else is anonymous? Doesn’t that affect (limit) what you can talk about, among other things? Are you for real, Neil?

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Odd that a brand new poster is getting so involved in the troll thread, no?

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So damn gullible

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I thought he was real, then he popped into the troll thread. Then I thought he was fake, and the tweet posted. He's real or he's the guy's publicist.

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I just listened to the studio version and it is clearly "in", not "through".


Any idea why NDT signed up for the durp?

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Your loved one just died?

I demand you list the cause in the obit for my edification.

https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca...ssue/957466/61

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Your loved one just died?

I demand you list the cause in the obit for my edification.

https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ca...ssue/957466/61

I had to restrain myself from posting something in that thread that would probably get me a warning.

Acsenray is a wacko who thinks obituaries are being shoved in his face. "Don't tell me it's none of my business!" Well, you are being told that, you twit. And Just_Asking_Questions resents the "stealth bragging" in obituaries. Christ.

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Any idea why NDT signed up for the durp?

Masochism?

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I thought he was real, then he popped into the troll thread. Then I thought he was fake, and the tweet posted. He's real or he's the guy's publicist.

I'm getting the impression that wolfpup feels a little threatened by the possible presence of NDT on the Dope. Even after the tweet thing, he blathers on and on and on about how he's still not convinced, then makes a big point of saying he doesn't really care anyway.

I'm getting a similar vibe from BigT, who insists that we should treat neiltyson as an impostor, but not in a "rude or mean" way.

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Your loved one just died?

I demand you list the cause in the obit for my edification.

While I don't think people have the right to demand that a COD be listed, I applaud those who choose to be open about stigmatized causes of death.

I'm old enough to remember when people were ashamed of having cancer, or having a relative with cancer. It was kept secret because it was considered tawdry, somehow.

Obituaries that were brave enough to say "so-and-so died of cancer" probably helped contribute to changing such ridiculous perceptions.

I'd like to live in a world where there was no shame associated with dying from AIDS, cancer, suicide, Hansen's disease, or any other condition that has in the past or maybe even at present causes people to gasp with a frisson of judgmental horror.

On the other hand, if an obit said, "Jojo was driving drunk and not only caused his own death but that of three innocent people in the car he smashed into," I would also applaud that as a means to publicize the dangers of drunk driving. An obit that said someone 45 died of a heart attack (and those who knew that person even slightly were aware they never exercised/had dreadful health habits) might serve as a cautionary tale for the rest of us.

To be clear, the public isn't owed an explanation of the cause of death. If relatives need to keep it private in order to assuage their own pain, so be it.

But I see social value in sharing the cause of death, and I applaud those relatives who aren't swayed by embarrassment or outdated notions of propriety, and hide the cause for those reasons.

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I'm getting the impression that wolfpup feels a little threatened by the possible presence of NDT on the Dope...I'm getting a similar vibe from BigT...

Thar's only room for one alpha geek in this town, pilgrim.

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Any idea why NDT signed up for the durp?

Ed Zotti got run over by Neil Tyson,
Happened by the Reader New Years Eve.
You can say celebrities never post there,
But as for me and What Exit, we believe.

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I just listened to the studio version and it is clearly "in", not "through".


Any idea why NDT signed up for the durp?

The thread about his "Republicans dying more than Dems from covid" tweet got bumped late December. Maybe his Google alert pinged him and he stuck around.

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While I don't think people have the right to demand that a COD be listed, I applaud those who choose to be open about stigmatized causes of death.

I'm old enough to remember when people were ashamed of having cancer, or having a relative with cancer. It was kept secret because it was considered tawdry, somehow.

Obituaries that were brave enough to say "so-and-so died of cancer" probably helped contribute to changing such ridiculous perceptions.

I'd like to live in a world where there was no shame associated with dying from AIDS, cancer, suicide, Hansen's disease, or any other condition that has in the past or maybe even at present causes people to gasp with a frisson of judgmental horror.

On the other hand, if an obit said, "Jojo was driving drunk and not only caused his own death but that of three innocent people in the car he smashed into," I would also applaud that as a means to publicize the dangers of drunk driving. An obit that said someone 45 died of a heart attack (and those who knew that person even slightly were aware they never exercised/had dreadful health habits) might serve as a cautionary tale for the rest of us.

To be clear, the public isn't owed an explanation of the cause of death. If relatives need to keep it private in order to assuage their own pain, so be it.

But I see social value in sharing the cause of death, and I applaud those relatives who aren't swayed by embarrassment or outdated notions of propriety, and hide the cause for those reasons.

When my mom died I write the obit and insisted on including that she died of Covid. My cousin died of AIDS in 1986 and had I been writing the obit I damn well would have included it.

It’s not a stigma thing, to me. I think for most it’s just personal, painful, and private. For some people the pain of the death is so raw that the idea that they should be expected to include the details of their loved ones deaths for someone else's prurient satisfaction is crazy to me. it’s the sense of entitlement and complete lack of empathy that I’m snarking on.

I don’t think most people don’t include details due to embarrassment, so that doesn’t seem like the most typical explanation. It just hurts.

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Thar's only room for one alpha geek in this town, pilgrim.

I prefer to think of myself as an apex geek, actually. If you disagree, I’ll kick your shins and run away!

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I'm getting a similar vibe from BigT, who insists that we should treat neiltyson as an impostor, but not in a "rude or mean" way.

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We should be hesitant to believe things without proof, lest we increase ignorance rather than reduce it. There’s a reason why “Cite?” is our favorite catchword.

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It’s not a stigma thing, to me. I think for most it’s just personal, painful, and private. For some people the pain of the death is so raw that the idea that they should be expected to include the details of their loved ones deaths for someone else's prurient satisfaction is crazy to me. it’s the sense of entitlement and complete lack of empathy that I’m snarking on.

I don’t think most people don’t include details due to embarrassment, so that doesn’t seem like the most typical explanation. It just hurts.

Fair enough. As I said, or meant to say, I don't think people should be forced or even pressured to include the cause of of loved one's death in an obit, even if doing so might help others in some small way. It's the surviving family's choice (unless of course the person who passed on left explicit instructions one way or the other, in which case one hopes those wishes would be observed).

And of course, strangers aren't entitled to know cause of death out of mere prurient interest.

I just think that if there is any social good to be achieved through the death announcement, taking advantage of it is a gracious, loving thing to do. Surely for some people it might lessen the pain, however slightly.

Okay, I'll shut up now.

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Very much agreed on your last point!

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Very much agreed on your last point!

The 'shutting up, now' point, or the 'lessening pain' point?

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When my mom died I write the obit and insisted on including that she died of Covid. My cousin died of AIDS in 1986 and had I been writing the obit I damn well would have included it.

It’s not a stigma thing, to me. I think for most it’s just personal, painful, and private. For some people the pain of the death is so raw that the idea that they should be expected to include the details of their loved ones deaths for someone else's prurient satisfaction is crazy to me. it’s the sense of entitlement and complete lack of empathy that I’m snarking on.

I don’t think most people don’t include details due to embarrassment, so that doesn’t seem like the most typical explanation. It just hurts.

This is it exactly. It's already so painful to see someone's life distilled down into a couple of paragraphs. Whoever's writing it has the right to do it however they want. The cause of death is often fraught with a lot of emotions so sometimes it's best dealt with later.

It's obvious a lot of those posters have never had to write an obituary. I'm sorry their lack of empathy has brought back pain, Pure.

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It's obvious a lot of those posters have never had to write an obituary. I'm sorry their lack of empathy has brought back pain, Pure.

I didn't have to write my father's obit. I just had to listen to the bullshit that was written (by my cousin Eddie), and shut my fucking mouth, and then hop in my car and drive to a friend's house, and then rant-and-rave about what a bastard he was. Joanna, Zach, and their mother were rather understanding.

I went back to pick up my mother an hour later.

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I didn't have to write my father's obit. I just had to listen to the bullshit that was written (by my cousin Eddie), and shut my fucking mouth, and then hop in my car and drive to a friend's house, and then rant-and-rave about what a bastard he was. Joanna, Zach, and their mother were rather understanding.

Sounds not dissimilar to when my mother died. She had written her obituary, the kind that sounds like it was written by an adoring relative, several years earlier and made sure I knew where it was in her file cabinet, "because I know you won't do it right." (Thanks, mom! You know people pay me to write stuff all the time, right?)

A fair bit of wine was consumed at the gathering I had with my cousins following her service. Stories were told. I'll just leave it at that.

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I wrote one for my MiL. Her church pulled it and added their own version, and asked for donations.

(She was pretty horrible, but I managed to keep things professional. I also did not fly to Texas for the service. Too bad. So sad. Oddly, neither did my husband.)

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“I really am just a dumb bunny.”-Judy Hopps

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Also, are we talking obits, or classified death notices, that most people refer to as obituaries? I once got my head chewed off when I said that funeral homes sometimes wrote the latter, because everyone thought I meant the former.

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RE: Funeral homes publishing the notice. The small rural town I used to live at, the two funeral homes did this by putting notices at the post office. It's how most people learned about their neighbor's passing. It was kind of nice.

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Yeah. But when I mentioned that, hooboy. For all that, "fighting ignorance?" Don't even get me started.

Another thing I'm reminded of was in the past, when various Dopers died, and you had nonnies going to the news paper cites or Facebook, and harassing their families. Maybe that's one reason people don't list the cause of death?


Oh, and Jinx is back. This time it's "feminine facial stubble".

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Oh, and Jinx is back. This time it's "feminine facial stubble".

Someone please move that to the Pit.

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It is of course one of the Straight Dope's longest, proudest traditions, having esteemed posters (most of whom are in their in their 40's, 50's or even older, yet still somehow manage to sound like 13 year-old kids whining about Mom not letting them go see the big Marilyn Manson concert with their friends) racing to outdo each other with bitter tales of abusive, monstrous family members who have gone to their eternal reward and the Doper's subsequent triumphant, emotionally cathartic acts of retribution at the funeral service, but sadly, all these stories pale in comparison to the SDMB's beloved Panache45, who claims to have LITERALLY danced on his Father's grave moments after the burial, and assured his adoring Doper audience that the other mourners who had gathered CHEERED and APPLAUDED his defiant, symbolic ritual.

(He also said his Father actually foretold that this would happen. I have always imagined an elderly, disheveled Judd Hirsch in the role)

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It is of course one of the Straight Dope's longest, proudest traditions, having esteemed posters (most of whom are in their in their 40's, 50's or even older, yet still somehow manage to sound like 13 year-old kids whining about Mom not letting them go see the big Marilyn Manson concert with their friends) racing to outdo each other with bitter tales of abusive, monstrous family members who have gone to their eternal reward and the Doper's subsequent triumphant, emotionally cathartic acts of retribution at the funeral service, but sadly, all these stories pale in comparison to the SDMB's beloved Panache45, who claims to have LITERALLY danced on his Father's grave moments after the burial, and assured his adoring Doper audience that the other mourners who had gathered CHEERED and APPLAUDED his defiant, symbolic ritual.

(He also said his Father actually foretold that this would happen. I have always imagined an elderly, disheveled Judd Hirsch in the role)

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