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Old 11th April 2023, 06:17 AM
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I'm looking through the chances of multiple scenarios. Too much math to post here, but our overall chances of winning is roughly one-third, assuming optimal play by all players. Mostly likely play-out of the game is we execute two Townies in the first two Days, investigator reveals a scum on Day Three, and we have 2 Town vs 1 Scum on Day Four. That's basically a 50-50 shot at that point.

We're basically in end-game right now, but without the accumulation of information from earlier parts in the game. Small games are inherently difficult to balance.

Having multi-vote would help us out. Even if we can't officially do it, we can still state who our second vote would be. However we do it, we need to vote off players that most Townies think should be voted off. That is, allowing scum to affect our vote is especially bad (since we're at end game).
Isn't that what we always do?
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Old 11th April 2023, 06:29 AM
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I'm looking through the chances of multiple scenarios. Too much math to post here, but our overall chances of winning is roughly one-third, assuming optimal play by all players. Mostly likely play-out of the game is we execute two Townies in the first two Days, investigator reveals a scum on Day Three, and we have 2 Town vs 1 Scum on Day Four. That's basically a 50-50 shot at that point.

We're basically in end-game right now, but without the accumulation of information from earlier parts in the game. Small games are inherently difficult to balance.

Having multi-vote would help us out. Even if we can't officially do it, we can still state who our second vote would be. However we do it, we need to vote off players that most Townies think should be voted off. That is, allowing scum to affect our vote is especially bad (since we're at end game).
Isn't that what we always do?
Sounds too much like work.
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Old 11th April 2023, 06:42 AM
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Having multi-vote would help us out. Even if we can't officially do it, we can still state who our second vote would be. However we do it, we need to vote off players that most Townies think should be voted off. That is, allowing scum to affect our vote is especially bad (since we're at end game).
Isn't that what we always do?
Maybe by the end of the game, but very rarely at the beginning. And even though we're effectively at the end the game, it's only Day One.

I'll also note that some players still push back against multi-vote, even so far as to avoid giving any hint on their second vote choice. That is especially detrimental in this game.

Oh, and speaking of voting systems, the insta-hammer rule puts an additional hurdle for Town to overcome. We can't just throw out votes, because a vote could end the Day. Both the numbers-balance and the voting system work against us this game.

For better balance, I think I would've added a Scotsman-type role, who could survive one execution or kill. That'd bring the odds closer to even, rather than 1-to-2 against us.
 


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