Cheap Beer Mafia -- Day One

[The Mighty Quinn]

Because why not? None of you are very good, a few are decent value for the money...but two are truly vile. Can you detect and pour out the interlopers not even worthy to be in this cooler of modestly priced beverages?

ON DRAFT

Mahaloth
Plumpudding
Pleonast
Vanta Black
Sea Serpent
guiri (although his avatar is way too upscale)
Kaiveran
Mendie Taoma
LightFoot

Here is the Vanilla Town PM:

Welcome to the game, you are a mildly off-tasting but generally tolerable light lager...Vanilla Town

Supermajority hammer is in effect; if 2/3 of living players are ever voting for the same player (so, 6 Today) the Day will end immediately. Don't post screenshots...you all know the drill.

All role PMs have been sent. Day One ends at 2 pm US Central time (1 pm Eastern) Friday, April 14.

GO!

[guiri]

PM received. Do I really need to change my avatar?

Can we multi-vote?

[Vanta Black]

I don't think you need to change your avatar, but then, I can't read it except that it appears to be...beer.

Meanwhile I am torn. Kind of inclined to vote Kaiveran in lieu of punching them, 'cause I'm too far away to do that, but also casting evil looks at Mahaloth and Sea Serpent. Yeah, it's a grudge. Yeah, I should drop it. Maybe tomorrow.

[The Mighty Quinn]

Originally Posted by guiri

PM received. Do I really need to change my avatar?

Can we multi-vote?

No, of course you don't have to change your avatar.

No multi-voting.

[Sea Serpent]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

I don't think you need to change your avatar, but then, I can't read it except that it appears to be...beer.

Meanwhile I am torn. Kind of inclined to vote Kaiveran in lieu of punching them, 'cause I'm too far away to do that, but also casting evil looks at Mahaloth and Sea Serpent. Yeah, it's a grudge. Yeah, I should drop it. Maybe tomorrow.

Hey I didn't do anything last game but try and get everyone to win. Sorry it didn't work out but the scaly one here is not deserving of malice.

[Mahaloth]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

Meanwhile I am torn. Kind of inclined to vote Kaiveran in lieu of punching them, 'cause I'm too far away to do that, but also casting evil looks at Mahaloth and Sea Serpent. Yeah, it's a grudge. Yeah, I should drop it. Maybe tomorrow.

That's fair, but what did Sea Serpent do?

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by guiri

PM received. Do I really need to change my avatar?

No, of course not, I highly encourage scum to claim by drinking the wrong beer.

[joke-vote]guiri[/joke-vote]

[Pleonast]

What power does the Town Cop have?

[Sea Serpent]

Sea Serpent


Some of us are very good.

[The Mighty Quinn]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

What power does the Town Cop have?

The usual; each Night, they may investigate a player and learn their alignment.

[Mendie Taoma]

Confirming.

Any chance at some potato skins?

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Sea Serpent

Sea Serpent


Some of us are very good.

I actually had Mead [Monk's Mead - An Atlanta Microbrew] for the first time, like two weeks ago. I don't need to know certain things exist.

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

Confirming.

Any chance at some potato skins?

Wait, What do you mean, it's been exactly one year ago?

https://www.giraffeboards.com/showth...ns#post1752853

[Plumpudding]

pm received. Off to work. See ya later.

[Plumpudding]

I'm gonna continue my iron-clad case from the lottery thread.

[Kaiveran]

Well...this took off quickly!

Let me find a suitable game-specific representation of myself...

[Kaiveran]

Ahh, there we go.

Originally Posted by The Mighty Quinn

Can you detect and pour out the interlopers not even worthy to be in this cooler of modestly priced beverages?

Easy; it's anything with "pale ale" in the name.

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

I don't think you need to change your avatar, but then, I can't read it except that it appears to be...beer.

Meanwhile I am torn. Kind of inclined to vote Kaiveran in lieu of punching them, 'cause I'm too far away to do that, but also casting evil looks at Mahaloth and Sea Serpent. Yeah, it's a grudge. Yeah, I should drop it. Maybe tomorrow.

Wasn't it always Guinness until recently?

Still, regardless of whether you drop it or not, I humbly suggest that you leave Sea Serpent out of it. They stuck to the plan and were the very picture of a level-headed mediating party until the bitter end. If anything it's a smidgen my fault for getting psyched-out last minute, and the lion's share of the blame goes to Maha for being a backstabbing scumbag after I refused to.

In fact, lettuce break the ice by revenge piling on him for funsies.

Originally Posted by The Mighty Quinn

No, of course you don't have to change your avatar.

No multi-voting.

Hmmph.

Currently pressing X to doubt that guiri would legit consider the possibility multi-voting in a bog-standard Cop 9p.

Originally Posted by Sea Serpent

Hey I didn't do anything last game but try and get everyone to win. Sorry it didn't work out but the scaly one here is not deserving of malice.

QED.

Originally Posted by Sea Serpent

Sea Serpent


Some of us are very good.

I'm liking this slithery dude again already.

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

Wait, What do you mean, it's been exactly one year ago?

https://www.giraffeboards.com/showth...ns#post1752853

Jeez, time flies when you're having fun, huh? I've certainly been having it here. I really should read over Margaritaville in full one of these days cuz it looked like a gas.

Originally Posted by Plumpudding

I'm gonna continue my iron-clad case from the lottery thread.

Cute. (Like me!)

I will let my inadvertent support for you stand for now. Subject to change with actual in-game post-role-distribution content.

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I would lecture about Cop Cover but that won't become relevant until D2, so whatev, Bev.

Now if you'll excuse me, I want to make at least something productive happen today. Yesterday I had some leftover Easter Lamb Stew that might've sat in Mom's crock-pot a little too long and the associated tummy troubles robbed me of any drive. Today is another and thankfully much better day.

[Pleonast]

I'm looking through the chances of multiple scenarios. Too much math to post here, but our overall chances of winning is roughly one-third, assuming optimal play by all players. Mostly likely play-out of the game is we execute two Townies in the first two Days, investigator reveals a scum on Day Three, and we have 2 Town vs 1 Scum on Day Four. That's basically a 50-50 shot at that point.

We're basically in end-game right now, but without the accumulation of information from earlier parts in the game. Small games are inherently difficult to balance.

Having multi-vote would help us out. Even if we can't officially do it, we can still state who our second vote would be. However we do it, we need to vote off players that most Townies think should be voted off. That is, allowing scum to affect our vote is especially bad (since we're at end game).

[Sea Serpent]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

I'm looking through the chances of multiple scenarios. Too much math to post here, but our overall chances of winning is roughly one-third, assuming optimal play by all players. Mostly likely play-out of the game is we execute two Townies in the first two Days, investigator reveals a scum on Day Three, and we have 2 Town vs 1 Scum on Day Four. That's basically a 50-50 shot at that point.

We're basically in end-game right now, but without the accumulation of information from earlier parts in the game. Small games are inherently difficult to balance.

Having multi-vote would help us out. Even if we can't officially do it, we can still state who our second vote would be. However we do it, we need to vote off players that most Townies think should be voted off. That is, allowing scum to affect our vote is especially bad (since we're at end game).

Isn't that what we always do?

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

assuming optimal play by all players.

Snipped to hell and back.

Assuming optimal play.

I should try that some time.

.... Assuming it I mean.

Because "optimal play" is not going to happen. Some might cite Perfect Information Syndrome here.

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Sea Serpent

Isn't that what we always do?

Sounds too much like work.

[Mahaloth]

Here is my OMGUS vote on Kai, though you may wonder why Kai and not plum. I presume plum is joking.

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by Sea Serpent

Isn't that what we always do?

Maybe by the end of the game, but very rarely at the beginning. And even though we're effectively at the end the game, it's only Day One.

I'll also note that some players still push back against multi-vote, even so far as to avoid giving any hint on their second vote choice. That is especially detrimental in this game.

Oh, and speaking of voting systems, the insta-hammer rule puts an additional hurdle for Town to overcome. We can't just throw out votes, because a vote could end the Day. Both the numbers-balance and the voting system work against us this game.

For better balance, I think I would've added a Scotsman-type role, who could survive one execution or kill. That'd bring the odds closer to even, rather than 1-to-2 against us.

[Mahaloth]

Hey, look, a knee-jerk reaction from me totally uncalled for.

I'm Vanilla Town, not a power role. Yes, I claimed way to early when pressure wasn't even mounting.

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

Here is my OMGUS vote on Kai, though you may wonder why Kai and not plum. I presume plum is joking.

[vote]Vote Kaiveran[vote]

I just feel like, all we ever do, is vote Kai.

Then again, ey have been scum, .... a metric ton. Like 6 times in eir 5 games with us?

[Mahaloth]

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

I just feel like, all we ever do, is vote Kai.

Then again, ey have been scum, .... a metric ton. Like 6 times in eir 5 games with us?

Killing him won the game for me just a few days ago. However, I have no real idea and my vote is mainly reactionary.

[guiri]

The question about my avatar was a joke… it’s still Guinness with a seasonal touch. The multi-vote was serious, since it wasn’t mentioned in the rules.

I get the grudge vote on Mahaloth, fully understand the sentiment, but it’s a mafioso’s nature to double-cross and backstab.

I don’t get why Vanta included Sea Serpent either.

I’m supportive of stating my second vote preference - it’s pretty common to state who else you’d be willing to execute, but unsure about the last part of Pleo’s suggestion… is it that we should change our vote to pile onto the generally most suspected player, even if they’re not our first preference?

[Mendie Taoma]

1. I was more or less working on the assumption that all current votes on players in this game, were one flavor or another of "joke" vote.

2. Grudges are bad, mmmkay? /Mr.Garrison

3. Like, and I think moreso under my Meeko account than Mendie's, grudges left me with a lot of feel bads.

3.1 I'm not sure if I forgot, repressed, or flat out don't want to 'go there' again. C.F. me sitting out the past game.

3.2 it's probably all of the above reasons in 3.1

4. In Truth, however, (shit. Can I say in truth? Is that a slip? Is calling it out the slip) ... Part of me wants to vote Kai. Because well. Track record.

5. No vote currently on anyone.

5.1 Not necessarily ruling out votes on anyone either.

5.2 Early days.

6. I'm not sure I've played in too many C7 (is ir?) Dirt simple games.

6.1 I'm not sure how much energy (and where) to give a simpler game.

[Mendie Taoma]

7. Is my "I'm Mobile." Showing ?

[Plumpudding]

Pleo is being pleo but hammer point valind

Just got back from bandprstice so a bit drunk.

Maha vote was of course a joke...

I'm not much of a meta person... But, IT'S BEEN A WHILE! Who'ls who andstuff.

?

[Plumpudding]

I've been and an still drinking kinda cheap and not very tasty but still passable beer my dad gave me. It's also a bit warm.

[Plumpudding]

I'm gonna because they are online and I want soimeone to talk to.

[Plumpudding]

Anyway, since we're off topic

[Plumpudding]

I disagree with you plum! I think mendie has been perfectly reasonable all game so far.

[Plumpudding]

Aha! Scum defens! Or can you in ANY WAY explain how mendia has been not scum!?

[Plumpudding]

Chill down! Still early game yo! Mendie has been chill and cool. Good reason for not being scum I think.

[Plumpudding]

I'm not sure I buy that argument, but okay. Since hammer I'll

Still a ping though....

[Plumpudding]

I think we should vote LightFoot. No reason.

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Plumpudding

I'm gonna [vote]Mendie Taoma[vote] because they are online and I want soimeone to talk to.

Online. And On The Clock. Mobile.

If you want to wade through all of that, go ahead.

As for me, I will, as I can.

Also, not sure if you were asking directly or not, I also have the username Meeko. If that clarifies anything?

[Plumpudding]

Cool!

Who's sea seprent?

[Plumpudding]

Kaiveran an d vanta black?

[Plumpudding]

Man I miss sock games...

[Plumpudding]

Who caresn abopout meta, right? Ik am sockm iomk a sockl!

I'm not sure I like this. There's something fishy here…

[Plumpudding]

The tide turns!

[Plumpudding]

Is that illegal?

[Plumpudding]

Yeah mendie I'm kinda gvet drunk a d J and then I start. Analalyzinfng

[Plumpudding]

And I think Maha is on th block

[Plumpudding]

But guiri9 is pleasant. thats not good?

[Plumpudding]

and lighfoot is silent. hmmm.-

[Plumpudding]

and who is sea serpent ffs