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Old 15th February 2011, 08:39 AM
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The opening scene from the new Star Trek. Part the emotion and action, part the cinematography (I know half of it's CGI), and most of it is that they get the physics right!

That's one thing I've noticed lately about sci-fi. They're getting the physics finally right. First noticed it in the new Battlestar Galactica, but I'm picking up on it in a lot of other movies and shows now. I like that.

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Old 15th February 2011, 09:57 AM
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Also where Dory talks to the Whale in Nemo.
I adored Dory and that scene was really cute, if a little disturbing, (I suffer from underwater agoraphobia - yes, it really is that specific).

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The whole scene where Decker flies into the big corporate headquarters skyscraper and meets Rachael and Tyrell. That futuristic executive office with a view of a smoggy sunset, an artificial owl, and the strange watery shimmering light is awesome. I like Rachael's 1940's padded shoulder suit, too, and the way her and the owl's eyes glow eerily. Just spectacular cinematography and atmosphere all around.
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That's one thing I've noticed lately about sci-fi. They're getting the physics finally right.
Yes. They're now actually employing consultants that understand what's physically possible. The trouble has always been that producers are caught between accuracy and saleable cinematography. The good news is that they seem to get the idea that their target market won't put up with Star Wars IV-VI anymore.

I would love to see The Mote In God's Eye and The Gripping Hand done right. But I think we're a ways off that yet.
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Old 15th February 2011, 10:13 AM
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The opening scene from the new Star Trek. Part the emotion and action, part the cinematography (I know half of it's CGI), and most of it is that they get the physics right!in space.
It is a great scene, aside from all the motherfucking lens flare. (JJ Abrams needs a cockslap across his arrogant face.)

Alas, it is the only part of the movie that does a decent job with the physics.
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Old 16th February 2011, 07:40 AM
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The opening scene from the new Star Trek. Part the emotion and action, part the cinematography (I know half of it's CGI), and most of it is that they get the physics right!
I find it hilarious that you're able to speak the words "new Star Trek" and "get the physics right" in the same breath.
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Old 16th February 2011, 07:54 AM
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I find it hilarious that you're able to speak the words "new Star Trek" and "get the physics right" in the same breath.
Well, c'mon now. . . it is called "science fiction." For a good tale, you have to have serious credibility with each, individual term.

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Well, c'mon now. . . it is called "science fiction." For a good tale, you have to have serious credibility with each, individual term.
There's fictional physics that legitimately allows you to suspend disbelieve (e.g., transporters), and there's fictional physics that's just retarded (e.g., a supernova crumbles a planet in a completely different solar system, with no warning and no travel time for the blast wave, so that no one can evacuate... although somehow Spock knew it was going to happen in time for the Vulcan Science Academy to outfit him with a ship with enough "red matter" to probably destroy the entire quadrant).

Which isn't to say it wasn't a fun film. I liked it a lot. I just have no illusions about how retarded a lot of the science (and plot) was.
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Old 16th February 2011, 02:16 PM
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Well, c'mon now. . . it is called "science fiction." For a good tale, you have to have serious credibility with each, individual term.
There's fictional physics that legitimately allows you to suspend disbelieve (e.g., transporters), and there's fictional physics that's just retarded (e.g., a supernova crumbles a planet in a completely different solar system, with no warning and no travel time for the blast wave, so that no one can evacuate... although somehow Spock knew it was going to happen in time for the Vulcan Science Academy to outfit him with a ship with enough "red matter" to probably destroy the entire quadrant).

Which isn't to say it wasn't a fun film. I liked it a lot. I just have no illusions about how retarded a lot of the science (and plot) was.
Well, as Tripler made perfectly obvious, he was only talking about the opening scene. Hell, even Phil Plait agrees with that.

I agree that the rest of the movie's physics is horrible beyond belief, but that matters not a whit to what once again, Tripler actually said:

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The opening scene from the new Star Trek. Part the emotion and action, part the cinematography (I know half of it's CGI), and most of it is that they get the physics right!
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Old 17th February 2011, 09:01 AM
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Well, as Tripler made perfectly obvious, he was only talking about the opening scene.
Yes, the opening scene was well done. That doesn't change the fact that a lot of the rest of the "science" in the film was just abyssmally wrong to the point of being fucking retarded. Thus my amusement at someone being able to talk at all about Star Trek getting physics right.

It wasn't intended as an attack--simply a wryly bemused observation.
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It wasn't intended as an attack--simply a wryly bemused observation.
I realized that in retrospect. Again, sorry about that.
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Well, as Tripler made perfectly obvious, he was only talking about the opening scene.
Yes, the opening scene was well done. That doesn't change the fact that a lot of the rest of the "science" in the film was just abyssmally wrong to the point of being fucking retarded. Thus my amusement at someone being able to talk at all about Star Trek getting physics right.
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Which isn't to say it wasn't a fun film. I liked it a lot. I just have no illusions about how retarded a lot of the science (and plot) was.
Now I understand where you're coming from, and agree with you completely. The "tactical science" is good, and that's what I enjoy. Hell, there were plot holes in BSG too that were shaky at best, but the gunfights made up for those.

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