Movie Scenes You Could Watch Over And Over

[Tripler]

Originally Posted by Shot From Guns

I find it hilarious that you're able to speak the words "new Star Trek" and "get the physics right" in the same breath.

Well, c'mon now. . . it is called "science fiction." For a good tale, you have to have serious credibility with each, individual term.

Tripler
I mean, who doesn't love a good,accurately-depicted phaser fight?

[Shot From Guns]

Originally Posted by Tripler

Well, c'mon now. . . it is called "science fiction." For a good tale, you have to have serious credibility with each, individual term.

There's fictional physics that legitimately allows you to suspend disbelieve (e.g., transporters), and there's fictional physics that's just retarded (e.g., a supernova crumbles a planet in a completely different solar system, with no warning and no travel time for the blast wave, so that no one can evacuate... although somehow Spock knew it was going to happen in time for the Vulcan Science Academy to outfit him with a ship with enough "red matter" to probably destroy the entire quadrant).

Which isn't to say it wasn't a fun film. I liked it a lot. I just have no illusions about how retarded a lot of the science (and plot) was.

[Lazlo]

Originally Posted by Shot From Guns

There's fictional physics that legitimately allows you to suspend disbelieve (e.g., transporters), and there's fictional physics that's just retarded (e.g., a supernova crumbles a planet in a completely different solar system, with no warning and no travel time for the blast wave, so that no one can evacuate... although somehow Spock knew it was going to happen in time for the Vulcan Science Academy to outfit him with a ship with enough "red matter" to probably destroy the entire quadrant).

Which isn't to say it wasn't a fun film. I liked it a lot. I just have no illusions about how retarded a lot of the science (and plot) was.

Well, as Tripler made perfectly obvious, he was only talking about the opening scene. Hell, even Phil Plait agrees with that.

I agree that the rest of the movie's physics is horrible beyond belief, but that matters not a whit to what once again, Tripler actually said:

Originally Posted by Tripler

The opening scene from the new Star Trek. Part the emotion and action, part the cinematography (I know half of it's CGI), and most of it is that they get the physics right!

[Shot From Guns]

Originally Posted by Lazlo

Well, as Tripler made perfectly obvious, he was only talking about the opening scene.

Yes, the opening scene was well done. That doesn't change the fact that a lot of the rest of the "science" in the film was just abyssmally wrong to the point of being fucking retarded. Thus my amusement at someone being able to talk at all about Star Trek getting physics right.

It wasn't intended as an attack--simply a wryly bemused observation.

[Lazlo]

Originally Posted by Shot From Guns

It wasn't intended as an attack--simply a wryly bemused observation.

I realized that in retrospect. Again, sorry about that.

[Shot From Guns]

Originally Posted by Lazlo

I realized that in retrospect. Again, sorry about that.

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[Clothahump]

Originally Posted by Shot From Guns

Yes, the opening scene was well done. That doesn't change the fact that a lot of the rest of the "science" in the film was just abyssmally wrong to the point of being fucking retarded. Thus my amusement at someone being able to talk at all about Star Trek getting physics right.

Well, even blind hogs find an occasional acorn.

[detop]

Two scenes from Battle of Britain :

• The "repeat please" scene : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXf1bhEEXd0
• The RAF resurgent scene : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuI0gFUq3HY

[The Superhero]

One that just occurred to me recently: Superman rescuing Lois Lane from the helicopter crash in the first Superman, still the best superhero movie based on a comic book.*

One of the best first-meeting dialogue exchanges between two characters ever: "Easy, miss, I've got you." (disbelieving look) "You've got me?! Who's got you?!"

Then Superman catches the falling helicopter in one hand, the crowd goes nuts and John Williams hits the perfect, "Of course he caught the helicopter, he's motherfucking SUPERMAN!" note...

Damn, I love that scene. The whole "Superman does superheroic deeds" sequence that follows is great, but the whole helicopter crash and rescue scene is one of my favorites ever.

I would have loved just one scene even half that great in Superman Returns. Alas, it was not to be.

* Not, however, the best overall superhero movie ever, thanks to the existence of The Incredibles.

[Tripler]

Originally Posted by Shot From Guns

Which isn't to say it wasn't a fun film. I liked it a lot. I just have no illusions about how retarded a lot of the science (and plot) was.

Now I understand where you're coming from, and agree with you completely. The "tactical science" is good, and that's what I enjoy. Hell, there were plot holes in BSG too that were shaky at best, but the gunfights made up for those.

Tripler
Yeah! Die toaster, die!