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Nice job not replying to me lightfoot
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and just what was I supposed to reply to?
- you voted me -you are distracted -you metagame ( which I didn't get) - I am posting but not leading( and have you read my posts?) at least I have been posting.............y'know playing the game............ tada |
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Metagame what? I noticed similarities with your scum game and mentioned them. The perfect response would be to show me you doing a bit more than lots of questioning. You like to have content without content. Lots of words, little actions.
While yes, I haven't exactly been a pinnacle of activity, I'm still here. |
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because of course a scum would want to make sure that all players had a spreadsheet that showed what every one claimed and investigated- yep I am a slacker- not questioning anyone- unlike your ever so helpful self - I am being grouchy - not the games fault or yours- he started it |
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I'm surprised that you find the name thing too difficult. You're a smarter and more experienced player than me, and open set-ups are something I usually struggle with, but I didn't have any real problems with this. I find myself wondering if you were just paralysed by indecision at the start (too many variables plus the possibility of exposure can do that to anyone), and have only picked up your involvement now that the town's organisers - Swammi and Guiri - are gone, and it looks as if the name claims won't prove quite as decisive as at first it seemed they might. |
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I was the first to say that my name was 3 letters. I left a hint that my name was the same as Bill's immediately after Bill claimed with my reference 139 to "To Tell the Truth" where the show started with 3 people all saying "My name is Ito". I wasn't planning on saying more, but when Gnarly voted Bill, I thought I needed to confirm Bill's claim. I am confirmable and Scathach can confirm me, if scum allow her to do so. At least with me alive, we know where scum's investigation is going and they aren't interfering with anyone else. |
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I meant I never left a clue like I'm in a shit of trouble. Bill outed our name fairly early on D1, before Swammi started the whole breadcrumbing thing.
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I don't see the case on Texcat as strong enough to justify making him a serious lynch candidate just yet.
There are three possibilities: 1) He's town, and Scathach's reciprocal investigations have been blocked to prevent mutual confirmation. 2) He's scum, and claimed a successful investigation of Scathach to make himself look more innocent. 3) Both he and Scathach are scum, and he claimed a successful investigation to make the pair of them look more innocent. To me, the first possibility seems plausible. For what I think are pretty obvious reasons, the scum wanted Swammi and Guiri dead asap, which would make blocking Scathach a no-brainer. Moreover, we can see that, without confirmation, Texcat's claimed investigation hasn't done much for his town cred and, indeed, seems to have done more to make him a suspect. That much is, to my mind, quite predictable. Now, of course, this doesn't write off the second and third possibilities - the scum might have felt they could rely on exactly the kind of defence I'm now putting up. But that still leaves us with the question of why they thought it worthwhile to take the risk of drawing more attention to one of their number, and also of tying him to another player so early on in the game. Perhaps others can see something I can't here, but, whilst he should remain a suspect, Texcat looks to me like a bad lynch for today, especially when we've got other players around who did nothing at all to indicate they knew their names on day one, and have done little since to deserve any real town cred. |
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I don't think Texcat is very scummy. I think Visor is the better candidate for today
[vote]visorlash[\vote] McGiny's post rings all of my sentiments on the matter |
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Mrs M, Dizzy
1. although not impossible- why the focus? 2. makes most sense to me 3. irrational- it should /would have been reciprocated if that were true add to what I have already stated the " I didn't leave a clue" to " look see here is my clue" if I am missing something please elaborate |
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I'll add that I'm now thinking Mrs McGinty has a good chance of being scum as well. She claimed a positive Town investigation on Heterometrus on the same Night TexCat claimed one on Scathach: maybe scum decided to "prove" their knowledge of their first names by claiming to have the same one as a Town player. If TexCat flips scum, I'd argue she would be a good next lynch.
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If a reciprocal investigation succeeded, then they'd have two townies who know each other innocent. In that case, killing either one would confirm the other. There's also the fact that people will inevitably find it suspicious that the reciprocal investigation has not succeeded, making Texcat a good chance for a mislynch.
That said, I could very well be wrong. I'm a pretty cautious scumbag, and lying about a successful scan on day 2 would strike me as carrying too many risks to be worthwhile. Since I don't really know the players around here - or the way in which scum tend to play on this forum - I can only make judgements on what seems rational to me, and not on how others are likely to behave based on prior experience. |
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The set-up with the names here looks to have posed an instant danger for the scum, whose lack of knowledge of their first names meant they could get caught out by the kind of gradual reveal strategy adopted by a decent chunk of the players (with all three of those nightkilled so far having championed that approach). To my mind, the most rational move for scum at the start of this game was either to try and disrupt any kind of mass claim, or simply to duck the issue altogether, in both cases hoping to try and make it past the next couple of days until they'd managed to do away with the town leaders and the remaining players had stopped focusing on the initial name claims quite so much. I'd add that it's always worth bearing in mind that scum don't need to avoid looking suspicious - they just need to get other people lynched instead of them. The most reliable approach is often simply to ensure that they don't invite undue attention at the key moments, and just let other people make targets of themselves (in much the way that Zuma and Colby did here). By claiming successful investigations on day 2, Texcat and I inevitably invited attention on ourselves, and both of us have since acted in ways unlikely to let us fade into the background. For my own part, I'm fully aware that being more talkative makes me much more likely to get lynched, whilst hiding in the background makes me much less so (especially on a forum where I'm virtually unknown - I survived to the end of a recent game at GitP by doing exactly that; I gave away absolutely nothing, and invited no suspicion at all, not catching a single vote until the penultimate day, when my scum buddies and I already had the game pretty much wrapped up). As far as Texcat is concerned, I don't know his style, so I can't say if he'd have invited such attention as scum. All I know is that it would have been a bad move if he did. I will say, though, that I can quite believe a townie might have acted as he has, even up to admitting his failure to investigate last night, which was always likely to attract more suspicion than an easy 'no result' claim. One more thing: Visor slacking off as a townie? I'll accept that it's possible, but I've played quite a few games with him and not seen that. And in a game where townie activity early on was pretty much essential to taking advantage of the set-up with the names, it strikes me as weird to say he looks more townie for being quiet. |
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I'd say they're both decent lynches. There's still plenty left of this day, though, so I wouldn't rush to bandwagon anybody too hard just yet. No sense risking another drop of the hammer.
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"Make sure to season the fish this time!" Barked Chef Ramsay
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i'm not against a Texcat lynch but i echo the sentiment that Lightfoot says a lot but really seem doesn't say anything.
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@Dizzymrslizzy, the vote robot missed your voted for Visor, can you recast it to make sure it counts?
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I'd also be ok with a Mahaloth lynch, I can see the name confusion thing that Lightfoot pointed out as being scummy dithering.
Visorslash I'm not sure what the case is exactly - is it just that he hasn't had much to say? Chaos posted once yesterday and not at all today & I'm rather a fan of lynch-the-lurker. In general though, I'm not sure why scum would bother deliberately blocking my investigation twice, there were other confirmed name matches they could have blocked? |
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Popping in to apologize for my lack of activity the past couple RL days, work has been/is crazy. I will catch up tonight. Now, off to a lonnnnng meeting.
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As for other possible scum, I'm paranoid enough to include more-or-less everyone. Until bufftabby's result claim, I would probably have put Lightfoot as most likely town, but I'm rather less confident now. The same is true in reverse for SisterCoyote, who I had as quite suspect until the investigation claim. You, meanwhile, don't come off as all that scummy, but you do come off as smart enough to fake townie behaviour pretty effectively. Inactivity makes Chaos scummy in much the same way as it does Visor, albeit slightly less so as I can see him having just given up and stopped paying attention. And dizzymrslizzy I've hardly noticed at all despite her thirty-odd posts, which I guess would represent better play for scum than it would for town. That's just off the top of my head. I'll need to spend a bit of time reading and making notes to speak with any more confidence. Hopefully I'll have time tomorrow; probably not before this day ends, though. |
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I find your "hiding" comment a bit weird Mrs. because I feel like I have been out there and scum hunting and helping come up with investigation targets for my group. |
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I didn't mean you've been hiding. I just meant that, for whatever reason, you haven't caught my attention.
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Nevertheless, if I had to lynch three players right now... Visor's the only call I have any shred of confidence in, so he's one. Chaos because inactivity means he's not helping either way. For the third, I guess Mahaloth. Scanning back over his posts reduced my suspicions, but the name thing still looks bad. The fact we've already lynched two players for being a bit hapless is the main thing giving me pause right now. What about you? |
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I think it is Texcat and Mcginty. Vibe. I accept either's lynch.
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Texcat makes me nervous also, but the lack of a runner up candidate, when there's a whole Scum team out there scares me. We've (Town) have played really poorly up until now. We don't have many "clears" (Investigated Town incase my verbage confuses people) and we haven't caught a scum yet. Here's another suggestion for tonight at least. Scum knew that we were all trying to pair off. Why not throw themselves in pools where they knew they wouldn't get caught. Put a RIP in with the ARK and an ITO in with the RIPs. They would come up with No result, and look nice and clean and Townie for participating in the whole charade. So that's why Texcat not wanting to investigate people last night and going forward is flawed at best. |
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Dizzy, Yes, I made a mistake. If I were scum I wouldn't have announced it. I would have just told everyone I got no result.
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If I had to off three people all at once, I'd go TexCat, Mahaloth and you. I think that would net 1-3 scum. If I was going sequentially, I'd start with TexCat and then lynch you if she flipped scum, probably Mahaloth if she flipped Town. It would depend on how the voting went down, though.
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When does Day end? I'm at work but I'd like to make sure to be around the last couple hours if I can.
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I find myself in the strange position of hoping Texcat is scum, even though it will first make me into lynchbait, and then make me look rather foolish for having defended him.
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My last plea to town. Don't lynch me. I am town. If scum started with 4 players, this is town's last mislynch. You'll need to be perfect from here on out to win. I was the first to disclose that my name had 3 letters. I was the first to suggest reverse investigations. I wanted to be confirmed by Scathach. I have confirmed that Scathach is town, and am confirmable by her if only scum will quit interfering. There have been no other matches amongst the Ito's. It should seem likely that Scathach and I are a match. Things town will learn from my lynch: Scathach's name. Oh, wait this is useful only to scum. Scathach is indisputably town. Her investigation was blocked N2 & N3. All other investigations therefore were not blocked. My best guess for the 4 scum: Visorslash, SisC, Buff, Giraffe |
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The good news about me being town for you, MrsMc, is that you won't be the day kill today.
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I find Texcat oddly compelling and am impressed if I have been fooled.
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