A Wizards True Name - Day 2

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by guiri

Just Gnarly. I do not understand Giraffe's double-D reference and since he failed to get a result on me last Night, I suspect he's either got an entirely different name, or different last name.

The clue was to confirm I got your N0 breadcrumb. Go reread your N0 post and find the breadcrumb, then think about my reference. Does it match your breadcrumb or not?

[Colby11]

Guiri, while I feel you might be scum.... I think Gnarly is scum based off Day 1, and I'm putting my vote there



And all of you that are voting for me are idiots. If I was scum, the last damn thing I would do is come back and attempt to be more active. I think I tried that once as scum, and it failed miserably because I was forced back because everyone was voting for me..

Heh. I see someone tried to put me into a category... Not saying whether it's right or not because I'm not giving any more hints.

[Swammerdami]

Zuma's play has been just what a Scum's might be. I find him a MUCH better Lynch than Mahaloth.

Originally Posted by LightFoot

could/would the players that have left a crumb about their name-...

Of the six players "assigned" to my clique, I've seen positive confirmation from all except Zuma and possibly Mrs. McGinty. (I don't remember whether Mrs. McGinty has left a crumb or not, but I intend to investigate him toNight anyway.)

Originally Posted by Mrs McGinty

I have three letters, one of them is an 'r'.

In other news, I played bass on a tune about a military man - not too poorly either, given the amount of booze involved.

Was the above a name crumb? If so, I didn't get it.

As McGinty pointed out, Sister Coyote's first breadcrumb was toDay, so might derive from illicit knowledge, though I'm happy to give her the benefit of the doubt.

It's the Guiri clique that's more interesting. We've seen crumbs from everyone except chaos and giraffe I think. Giraffe claims to have crumbed:

Originally Posted by Giraffe

Wait, I think I finally spotted guiri's N0 reference! I will give a coded hint as to location: boobs....

Now I just want to know that gnarlycharlie actually knows something about his name and isn't just piggybacking onto guiri's claim.

After this Gnarley posted an elegant breadcrumb and Giraffe continued with

Originally Posted by Giraffe

gnarly has given zero evidence that he knows anything.

Have any in the Guiri/Gnarly clique seen a breadcrumb from Giraffe? I do NOT particularly suspect Giraffe to be Scum, but would like a further hint as to why he thinks "boobs" is a good clue. (With all the clues already, it may be too late for anyone to be cleared providing a NEW crumb for the Guiri name.)

[Swammerdami]

Are those voting Colby doing so because they're dissatisfied with his name crumb "Bruce"? If so, I suggest that Colby post a TINY bit more. (I only decoded the crumb by Googling.)

[Mrs McGinty]

Originally Posted by Heterometrus swammerdami

Was the above a name crumb? If so, I didn't get it.

I've posted nothing that anyone's likely to figure out, regardless of whether they know our name. What I've done instead is to put in two really obvious non sequiturs (the one you quote and another a little while later), which will only make sense when I explain why I chose those exact words. I was minded to wait until our name is made public to give that explanation, but if we think we've got as much mileage as we're going to get from keeping our name secret, then I'd quite happily be the first to reveal.

[guiri]

I voted Colby for his 3 posts total, his opposition without argument to the name claim, and his either intentional obstruction of an investigation, complete lack of interest in the game (sore loser?), or need to false claim a result since he has no power. As for his defence, "scummy me wouldn't do that" is weak as hell.

Giraffe had another hint, explaining boobs as "double D's" which still means nothing to me so I'd suggest that he comes out and simply states his name.

As for others, only Gnarly has shown that he knows the name. Other players repeating the exact same hint without any other attempt to display their knowledge does not deserve any trust whatsoever - which is why I asked you about Lightfoot, repeating the exact same clue just means she found the clue, not that she understands it - but since I don't know your name, she may have given other unique hints...

[Swammerdami]

Originally Posted by guiri

As for others, only Gnarly has shown that he knows the name. Other players repeating the exact same hint without any other attempt to display their knowledge does not deserve any trust whatsoever - which is why I asked you about Lightfoot ...

Dizzy gave an early crumb (might be fluke but I think it was real). I think Maha knows the name by now. (This is all based on the 99% assumption that I've guessed your name ... which makes me think anyone knowing the name by now may have, like me, just deduced it from the clues.)

I applaud members of my clique who've demonstrated clear knowledge but not, I think, given the name away!

I'm sure Lightfoot knew the name when she posted her crumbs and apologize for exasperating her when slow-witted Swammi took a while to see them.

[Mahaloth]

I breadcrumbed as well for anyone who is interested.

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by guiri

Giraffe had another hint, explaining boobs as "double D's" which still means nothing to me so I'd suggest that he comes out and simply states his name

I'm fairly puzzled why you can't see my reference after my last post, but fine. My name is Rip. I had thought your N0 breadcrumb was the use of the word "dead" aka R.I.P. So I gave the coded reply boobs, which by itself means nothing, because I wanted to later be able show that I saw it at the time without giving gnarly the name before he could demonstrate some independent knowledge of it. The double d's of course refers to the only word in guiri's post with two d's, dead.

So there we are.

[guiri]

OK, I totally didn't get the double D reference but yes, my name is Rip, like R.I.P. Sorry for being slow. Now, why did your investigation fail??? Different surnames?

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by guiri

OK, I totally didn't get the double D reference but yes, my name is Rip, like R.I.P. Sorry for being slow. Now, why did your investigation fail??? Different surnames?

I would assume, or someone else also investigated you. Why are you so surprised? You seem oddly defensive about not coming up Town...

[guiri]

Well, I've been inclined to believe there are just a few Rips and we would assume we share the same surname. With just one investigation available to scum, I would not jump to the conclusion that they interfered with your one.

[TexCat]

There are 6 Rip's? Guiri, Gnarly, Chaos, Giraffe, Dizzy, and Mahaloth. It does seem odd that we have only 3 Ito's and 6 Rip's.

Does anyone understand Colby's Bruce clue? I feel certain that he is scum trying to fake it.

Swammi and/or MrsMc, Now that I know Rip, I can evaluate that group on my own, but I need to rely on you two to evaluate your group. My notes show that Zuma has not left a clue. SisterCoyote left one only Today, and Lightfoot's clue(s) is a little iffy. Is that correct? And that you are pretty confident in Buff?

[Swammerdami]

With Giraffe's early reveal that R was the initial letter, the name almost had to be RI?, RO?, or R?T. So few possibilities that one could review them in the light of these clues ...

Originally Posted by guiri

At least you're not wondering if you're dead or alive!

Originally Posted by gnarlycharlie

... for now it will take my death to tear my name from me.

... and find the answer easily. I'll guess that Mahaloth really does have "Rip" for name, but he could easily have guessed it instead.

Since two Scum isn't nearly enough in a Game this size, I think we can assume Scum knew a first name or two to start with.

Originally Posted by TexCat

... Does anyone understand Colby's Bruce clue? I feel certain that he is scum trying to fake it.

... My notes show that Zuma has not left a clue. SisterCoyote left one only Today, and Lightfoot's clue(s) is a little iffy. Is that correct? And that you are pretty confident in Buff?

I do get Colby's clue (I think) but would let him explain it.

AFAIK Zuma has left no clue; he should be Lynched toDay. Lightfoot's clue is NOT iffy. I'm 98.6% confident with the breadcrumbs Bufftabby has already left, but welcome her to leave another subtle crumb and remove any lingering doubt.

[LightFoot]

we have one ( or maybe two- no sure) names that are not public knowledge- I do suggest we leave it that way

for now anyway.

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Originally Posted by guiri

I voted Colby for his 3 posts total, his opposition without argument to the name claim, and his either intentional obstruction of an investigation, complete lack of interest in the game (sore loser?), or need to false claim a result since he has no power. As for his defence, "scummy me wouldn't do that" is weak as hell.

Giraffe had another hint, explaining boobs as "double D's" which still means nothing to me so I'd suggest that he comes out and simply states his name.

As for others, only Gnarly has shown that he knows the name. Other players repeating the exact same hint without any other attempt to display their knowledge does not deserve any trust whatsoever - which is why I asked you about Lightfoot, repeating the exact same clue just means she found the clue, not that she understands it - but since I don't know your name, she may have given other unique hints...

Except I posted my bread crumb before we were even talking about breadcrumbs I think. In my very first grouping of posts.

I'm Very Annoyed Now! Does my explanation help now???

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Originally Posted by Dizzymrslizzy

Except I posted my bread crumb before we were even talking about breadcrumbs I think. In my very first grouping of posts.

I'm Very Annoyed Now! Does my explanation help now???

And again I'm late to the party responding while catching up. Seeing as though I posted this after my name was fully released. *sigh*

[TexCat]

Dizzy??

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Dizzymrslizzy

And again I'm late to the party responding while catching up. Seeing as though I posted this after my name was fully released. *sigh*

I don't see this clues relevance- bu I see the first one now ( at the time I thought it an odd turn of phrase but didn' know why)



(I have a wonky T on my keyboard sorry if it makes me hard o read)

[Dizzymrslizzy]

LOL Lightfoot and Texcat! Seriously what the heck? I just can't win here can I....

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Does anyone else need me to spell it out?

I share the same first name as Guiri. I was originally breadcrumbing the DEAD to indicate that I saw Guiri's breadcrumb, and I understood it, and share it.

And VAN is part of the name of a famous one of my name.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Dizzymrslizzy

Does anyone else need me to spell it out?

I share the same first name as Guiri. I was originally breadcrumbing the DEAD to indicate that I saw Guiri's breadcrumb, and I understood it, and share it.

And VAN is part of the name of a famous one of my name.

welll you didn't winkle when you said that part

[guiri]

Dizzy, Rip Van Winkle, it's clear. Did you only use "dead" as a hint? The only word in common between my N0 post and Gnarly's response? Or is there another reference to rip, tear, grave or other that I missed? My investigation of you failed last Night, scum cannot have interfered in both Giraffe's investigation of me and my investigation of you...

Lightfoot, which one, maybe two names are you referring to? Presumably not your own anymore.

[LightFoot]

posting because I did the research


first name clues-in order- Not counting " my name is short" or subtle clues
Day one

Texcat " 3 letters"

Bill "Ito"

swammi "I have an R" "R and no I-T-O"

guiri " R and one of I-T-O "

scathach "I don't have an R in my name"

giraffe "First letter R"

after the first claim of letters the echoes ( wih out supporting clues) could be suspect


this was started before the newer posts so is moot on some level I suppose

It might be interesting to someone- at some point

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by guiri

~snipped~
Lightfoot, which one, maybe two names are you referring to? Presumably not your own anymore.

Why not?

My name has not been uttered- and it is not impossible that there is another

( looks unlikely but not impossible)

[guiri]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Why not?

My name has not been uttered- and it is not impossible that there is another

( looks unlikely but not impossible)

You said public knowledge, not only uttered. Unless I'm completely off the mark, your name is no longer a mystery based on the clues dropped. R without ITO, with no A?

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by guiri

You said public knowledge, not only uttered. Unless I'm completely off the mark, your name is no longer a mystery based on the clues dropped. R without ITO, with no A?

you have described a name that is not mine

[LightFoot]

the name that I have has not been typed in game that I know of- you do not share that name so I don't get your point?

[guiri]

I thought that the clues that had been left were obviously leading to a specific word and so your idea that your name was still a mystery was misguided, even if it hadn't been spelled out by anyone. I was wrong, so you're good. That ship hasn't sailed yet.

[TexCat]

Dizzy, oh!

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Originally Posted by guiri

Dizzy, Rip Van Winkle, it's clear. Did you only use "dead" as a hint? The only word in common between my N0 post and Gnarly's response? Or is there another reference to rip, tear, grave or other that I missed? My investigation of you failed last Night, scum cannot have interfered in both Giraffe's investigation of me and my investigation of you...

Lightfoot, which one, maybe two names are you referring to? Presumably not your own anymore.

My investigation failed also. There had to be something else at play here...it is kind of game breaking for us all to have successful investigations when 6 of us have the same first name.

Maybe we have different last names.
Maybe scum can block all people with a first name xyz?
I don't know the answer to that

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Dizzymrslizzy

~snipped~

My investigation failed also. There had to be something else at play here...it is kind of game breaking for us all to have successful investigations when 6 of us have the same first name.

Maybe we have different last names.
Maybe scum can block all people with a first name xyz?
I don't know the answer to that

the rules seem pretty clear-and
since it appears we only have 3 or 4 first names it makes sense that we don't all have the same last name-- I guess I don't see the issue?

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Vote Counting Robot

Zuma (4): LightFoot (9), gnarlycharlie (10)[100], TexCat (19)[83], Mahaloth (21), Giraffe (28), Heterometrus swammerdami (103)
Colby (3): guiri (66), Dizzymrslizzy (81), TexCat (83)
Mahaloth (2): SisterCoyote (88), Mrs McGinty (93)
Lightfoot (1): Heterometrus swammerdami (54)[65], gnarlycharlie (100)
Gnarlycharlie (1): Colby11 (102)
Colby11 (1): Heterometrus swammerdami (12)[54], Heterometrus swammerdami (65)[77], bufftabby (82)
Sistercoyote (0): Mrs McGinty (39)[93]
Guiri (0): Colby11 (72)[102]
Visorslash (0): Heterometrus swammerdami (77)[103]

we have a tie- it is/will be sunday soon. Day ends in he middle of my work Day - comparing this day to yesterday vote wise is confusing me

going to bed now will be here in my morning

[Colby11]

Originally Posted by Heterometrus swammerdami

Are those voting Colby doing so because they're dissatisfied with his name crumb "Bruce"? If so, I suggest that Colby post a TINY bit more. (I only decoded the crumb by Googling.)

I think you don't know because my crumb only makes sense if you know where my train of thought is going...

[Colby11]

I would rather not move my vote to Zuma. I would rather die. Gives town less distractions.

Apparently I'm pulling a peeks this game

So what will it be? Tea or crumpets?

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

the rules seem pretty clear-and
since it appears we only have 3 or 4 first names it makes sense that we don't all have the same last name-- I guess I don't see the issue?

Well Guiri seems to have an issue with it, so I hypothesized some reasons. That's all.

[gnarlycharlie]

Originally Posted by Colby11

Guiri, while I feel you might be scum.... I think Gnarly is scum based off Day 1, and I'm putting my vote there



And all of you that are voting for me are idiots. If I was scum, the last damn thing I would do is come back and attempt to be more active. I think I tried that once as scum, and it failed miserably because I was forced back because everyone was voting for me..

Heh. I see someone tried to put me into a category... Not saying whether it's right or not because I'm not giving any more hints.

i think that you would benefit from reading D2 in full. you'll see why your vote is a waste. i actually think you're town.

that said, isn't anyone concerned about scum needing our or their first names? it seems pointless if the only use is so they can do a Day kill. a one for one doesn't make good strategy. perhaps knowing their first names unlocks powers. if that's the case, the emergence of two names might hurt us.

[Colby11]

It could help them near the end of the game, possibly to sway the numbers into their favor?

Or at the end of the Day?

[Colby11]

Originally Posted by TexCat

And too lazy to read thru the 60 or 70 posts of N1?!?
Unless someone can tell me that they got your hint and have the same name as you, my vote is staying on you.

I sent in my order when I posted at Night

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by guiri

I thought that the clues that had been left were obviously leading to a specific word and so your idea that your name was still a mystery was misguided, even if it hadn't been spelled out by anyone. I was wrong, so you're good. That ship hasn't sailed yet.

See this is what I mean- You should not know for certain what the name is- But you have seen a theme in the clues and left a piece of same-

So what stops another who is "passing" as knowing their name- could post ( in the case of my name) -- or has posted a clue like the others - without actual knowledge of their name?

You did say something earlier that led me to think that more than one clue would now be needed.- so maybe you are in he same mind set. the rest need to be too.

Also leaves the players that can not show where they have left any unique clues in a bit of a pickle now

[guiri]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

See this is what I mean- You should not know for certain what the name is- But you have seen a theme in the clues and left a piece of same-

So what stops another who is "passing" as knowing their name- could post ( in the case of my name) -- or has posted a clue like the others - without actual knowledge of their name?

You did say something earlier that led me to think that more than one clue would now be needed.- so maybe you are in he same mind set. the rest need to be too.

Also leaves the players that can not show where they have left any unique clues in a bit of a pickle now

This was my point, someone posting a clue on Day 2, or someone referencing a non-unique clue from Day/Night 1 earns no cred whatsoever. Clues were truly worthwhile on Day/Night 1 when they were unique and we were sure only Town knew their first names. Someone posting a clue on Day 2 has either worked out a clue through brute force, or has discovered a first name through some other manner - maybe a scum investigation result, why did they wait so long?

[Dizzymrslizzy]

But here's the thing Guiri. While my clue may have not been "unique" on N1 when I joined the party, We weren't discussing that there were clues, and I was trying to handshake with you to get your attention.

[TexCat]

Zuma and Colby are tied. I prefer the Colby lynch, but would be happy with a Zuma lynch. I'll move my vote as required tomorrow so that we don't end in a tie again.

Not voting: Visor, Chaos, Zuma, Scathach. Are you all waiting to try to create a tie again tomorrow?

[Scáthach]

Originally Posted by TexCat

Zuma and Colby are tied. I prefer the Colby lynch, but would be happy with a Zuma lynch. I'll move my vote as required tomorrow so that we don't end in a tie again.

Not voting: Visor, Chaos, Zuma, Scathach. Are you all waiting to try to create a tie again tomorrow?

Busy weekend:

for the moment just to have a vote down. Catching up now.

[Mrs McGinty]

Urgh. It seems that voting for and then with SisterCoyote has caused me to get ill too.

Originally Posted by Colby11

I would rather not move my vote to Zuma. I would rather die. Gives town less distractions.

Eh? Is this meant to be reverse psychology or something?

[Swammerdami]

It's probably irrelevant, but just for closure: When I saw Colby's "Bruce" clue I typed "RIP Bruce" into Google and learned that a very recent "R.I.P. Bruce Willis" hoax had attracted much attention on Facebook. I guessed that this was Colby's clue. Was it?

It was a short-lived hoax: as of just now, Bruce Willis is mentioned only once on the first page of "RIP Bruce" Google hits.

[TexCat]

Day ends in about 4.5 hours? If there's no objection, I'm going to investigate Visor tonight.

[Mahaloth]

Let's not tie again, folks.

[Scáthach]

Bleh sorry, so much for catching up :/ getting ready to go out drinking tonight (happy paddys day all!) so still don't have real time.

I will say that without swammerdamis confirmation I'd be voting lightfoot right now because I think her clues have been the most confusing + vague. I'm ok with sticking with zuma for the moment since he refuses to name handshake with anyone for reasons I think are extremely unclear

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[TexCat]

Zuma is up by 1 already, but I don't want Chaos(who has yet to vote) to be able to come in at the last minute and tie again.