140: These Durps are made for Snarkin'. And that's just what they'll do. One of these days these Durps are gonna Snark all over you.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Lame snark, but Broomstick out-poors me in the "Living room/parlor" thread:

Jeezer with a Peezer! That's the first time I've heard living on food stamps in a practically falling-down house in the country and huddled around the one room that was close to wood-burning heat being "a certain wealth". What we were supposed to do, tear down the extra room and burn the wood for heat? Or just the piano?

And anyway, my brother just built a house with a front parlor/living room, and practically every square two-story house that I've seen has one, so the practice is hardly "largely gone".

My parents grew up that way -- my mom shared a room with her brother and sister as a child, and my grandparents had the other bedroom.
And in my dad's case, when he was little, he had to share a room with FOUR sisters, until finally my grandparents were able to finish off their attic, and then he got the downstairs bedroom to himself, and my aunts moved upstairs. And my grandparents were certainly pretty poor.


Granted, I don't know how old Broomstick is, and my parents never lived on food stamps (I don't even think they existed then), but big families in small houses were indeed a thing.

However, the whole front room/fancy living room thing didn't have anything to do with wealth. According to my mother, HER grandmother was really fussy and yelled at my aunt one time for daring to come in the living room. And they were poor as shit too.

THAT BEING SAID, neither of my parents ever played the "woe is me, I was sooo poor growing up" card. Except when they wanted to guilt trip me or my sister when we were kids, like every other parent in the universe.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Weird take. I don't think he was ever convicted, and he's dead anyway, so you'd have to be weirdly obsessed to still care that he might have been a molester.

The adults that MJ molested when they were kids probably still care.

Well it's good to know you're a Jackson lover and that you don't care about kids who have been molested.

Seems like you're the weird one.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

I don't remember that, when was it?

You know as a kid we had one and were Lower middle-class. We have two now and are upper-middle-class. Maybe its a real thing?

I don't think the"child of privilege" ever mentioned colanders. She did use"we drank milk every day - several times a day in fact!" As an indicator of privilege, though, and THAT spawned the colander joke.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

I feel like the appropriate description for the OP is neither wealthy nor middle class (upper or otherwise), but something like petit riche. Pronounced petty rich. As in not really rich, but sure does diminish themselves in an effort to seem rich.

It always makes me think of those stupid one-upmanship contests we used to get into in grade school (i.e. "We have a pool and you don't!" "My mom is prettier than your mom!") Childish and tacky, borne of insecurity.

Meanwhile, I have a friend whose family made a fortune in an unremarkable object used by every business in the country and she owns a mill that makes upholstery fabric. She NEVER talks about money.

Same with a friend of my sister's. He's a self-starter who earned multiple doctorates and worked his ass off until he could start is own geotech company. His shining moment came in the infield at a NASCAR race where he kept going up to people saying, "I'm from South Africa. Can I have a beer?" No one could say no to that, so he wound up so shitfaced he started marching around singing war chants in Swahili, while a bunch of shitfaced rednecks marched around behind him going "OOOH! AH!" On the way home he was hanging out the sunroof of my sister's car yelling his head off, and when we got to her house he threw up in her bushes. It was epic.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Weird take. I don't think he was ever convicted, and he's dead anyway, so you'd have to be weirdly obsessed to still care that he might have been a molester.

"Weirdly obsessive" is a pretty good descriptor of BigT in general.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

It always makes me think of those stupid one-upmanship contests we used to get into in grade school (i.e. "We have a pool and you don't!" "My mom is prettier than your mom!") Childish and tacky, borne of insecurity.

Meanwhile, I have a friend whose family made a fortune in an unremarkable object used by every business in the country and she owns a mill that makes upholstery fabric. She NEVER talks about money.

...

The Four Yorkshiremen is an old routine where 3-4 comedians try to one up (one down) each other about growing up poor.

The base of the routine is far older than this though.

There was a saying that might not have been true, "Most Millionaires shop at Sears." All it was trying to say is most rich people want good quality for good prices and don't need to show off with excess spending. It seems like those days are gone anyway.

[Someone]

Luxury! We used to dream of having a child molester defender on our message board

[Someone]

All these colander references are becoming a bit strained.

[Someone]

The BigTurd Lecture Series continues: What_Exit, you're modding wrong, and I could do it better...

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

All these colander references are becoming a bit strained.

That's just the filter you're seeing it through.

[Someone]

Turdy would make a great mod. He could serve an apprenticeship under What Exit, and in a few short months, he'd be the bestest mod evar! You hear me Ed, do something right for a change and make Turdy a mod.

[Someone]

It’s stuff like this that drives me bonkers. Of course WhatExit wasn’t threatening retribution, he was explaining that he would have taken a different course if action had he known more of the history.

But BigT sees threats and personal attacks in common turns of a phrase and bizarre interpretations in the worst possible way.

Originally Posted by Someone

The BigTurd Lecture Series continues: What_Exit, you're modding wrong, and I could do it better...

Originally Posted by Someone

And saying stuff like “I should have Warned you” kinda comes off as a threat, saying “Don’t disagree with our moderation on this topic, or else.” But he’s in ATMB, and that’s the forum where you can disagree on a Warning. He’s not remotely unique in saying that he disagrees with a Warning, and doesn’t understand. It seems far better to explain rather than assume maliciousness.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

That's just the filter you're seeing it through.

Your theory is fully of holes.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

The BigTurd Lecture Series continues: What_Exit, you're modding wrong, and I could do it better...

The tone of that message reminds me of being in elementary school, with teachers sadly telling me that I had been doing so well but now I've disappointed them.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Turdy would make a great mod. He could serve an apprenticeship under What Exit, and in a few short months, he'd be the bestest mod evar! You hear me Ed, do something right for a change and make Turdy a mod.

It's selfish of me to say this, but I really wish that would happen. The entertainment value would be immense. He'd be handing out warnings (or, as he calls them, Warnings) right and left, and there would be endless ATMB threads where people challenge and berate him. All day long he'd be posting tedious, lengthy defenses of his mod decisions and getting more and more worked up.

He should honestly be grateful that Ed didn't make him a mod, because it would make his life a living hell.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Your theory is fully of holes.

It certainly doesn't hold water.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

It certainly doesn't hold water.

But it makes an excellent hat.

[Someone]

Northern Piper, who has been irritating me more than usual lately, has never heard the term "gaslighting" before. When its movie origin is explained to him, he sniffily dismisses that as "obscure."

peccavi has a good response:

Very obscure. Google returns only 22,200,000 results for the word “gaslight” and “gaslighting” has its own Wiki entry (note the photo is from the film)

[Someone]

Gatopescado doesn't know what a "browser " is.

Originally Posted by Someone

I don't even know what the hell a 'browser' is. I had a dog called Browser, 'cause he would run around and browse for chicken and cat shit.

What the fuck? Nothing works anymore. I need to upgrade my 'What?'

Any help will be … uh.... I'm too stooped to be on the interwebes, I guess.

Fuck....

https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho...rowser/927977?

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Gatopescado doesn't know what a "browser " is.

https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho...rowser/927977?

Wasn't Browser the guy with the real deep voice?

[Someone]

Fucking idiot is no doubt drunk again. Should've just ignored him completely but had to say something.

[Someone]

I asked him why he thought I hate him and he replied, "I drink? Long-necks." I wonder if he was trying to be clever and referring to this MB.

[Someone]

I dunno but I just read his replies in the thread and nope, that's just too much stupid for me to deal with. That's weapons grade stupidium, that's what that is. Ye gods.

[Someone]

I don't snark very often, but "Gee I don't know what a browser is" is veryveryclose to "Please return your computer to the box in which it came and mail it back to the manufacturer with a note stating 'I am too stoopid to use a computer'."

Fighting Ignorance: I'm Sorry But the Homeland is now Under Attack

[Someone]

And now it's closed.

I didn't get to respond with my oh so clever:

"What kind of computer do you have? If it's a white one then you need to upgrade to the green one."

[Someone]

All these kitchen implements puns are funneling my anger; they're very grating.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

All these kitchen implements puns are funneling my anger; they're very grating.

Now cut that out!

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

It’s stuff like this that drives me bonkers. Of course WhatExit wasn’t threatening retribution, he was explaining that he would have taken a different course if action had he known more of the history.

But BigT sees threats and personal attacks in common turns of a phrase and bizarre interpretations in the worst possible way.

Projection. He mentioned once that he has anger management issues, so he assumes everyone has the same motivations as he would in any given similar situation.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Now cut that out!

No! I want to see how things pan out.

[Someone]

I think you should all go smoke some pot and simmer down.

[Someone]

Now we're cooking!

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

And now it's closed.

I didn't get to respond with my oh so clever:

"What kind of computer do you have? If it's a white one then you need to upgrade to the green one."

It's open again. It was temporarily closed. Now's your chance.

[Someone]

Trolling or stupidity?

Originally Posted by Someone

I’ve heard rumors that late at night after local TV stations shut down for testing they would start back up and play porn. Might be just an urban legend I think almost all local stations are now on 24/7.

[Someone]

Let's troll religious people, part eleventy twelve.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

I think you should all go smoke some pot and simmer down.

That reminds me of a game I played a few years ago, one of the ones where you had to guess the real phrase versus the fake ones other people submitted, and my brother started to read "Complete this Jamaican saying: 'When a man has plenty, he _____'" and burst out laughing when he read the answer, so we knew the answer had to be humorous. It was "When a man has plenty, he boils the pot", and the combination of "pot" and "Jamaicans" is what was humorous to him.

Now, of course "pot" means a cooking device there, but what the heck does "he boils the pot" mean anyway? I wonder if the editors of the game just snuck it in there as a copyright trap because the Googles do nothing for me. Does it mean "he lives large", i.e. ostentatiously throwing around a lot of money? ETA: a better Google found that it is also found in one book of sayings with still no further explanation, so maybe that book had it as a copyright trap

[Someone]

I'm guessing "boils the pot" means that he keeps the pot on the fire long after the contents are gone, eventually ruining the pot. Because he has so much, he doesn't give a shit about the pot, because he can just buy another one.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Northern Piper, who has been irritating me more than usual lately, has never heard the term "gaslighting" before. When its movie origin is explained to him...

Huh. I thought Piper was a she.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

I'm guessing "boils the pot" means that he keeps the pot on the fire long after the contents are gone, eventually ruining the pot. Because he has so much, he doesn't give a shit about the pot, because he can just buy another one.

I read it as he makes extra food for others, he boils the pot with his plenty so he has more to share.

[Someone]

QuarryBoy whines about Youtube ads instead of installing a (free) ad blocker.

[Someone]

Banksy graffitis a private house, causing the value of said house to rise tenfold. Derpers fall all over themselves haughtily insisting if he defaced their house THEY would paint right over that because it's stupid and wrong. Fuckin' idiots.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Banksy graffitis a private house, causing the value of said house to rise tenfold. Derpers fall all over themselves haughtily insisting if he defaced their house THEY would paint right over that because it's stupid and wrong. Fuckin' idiots.

I would sell immediately and be happy to pocket the profit. But I do think the Banksy craze is crazy, but I would be willing to cash in on a windfall.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

I would sell immediately and be happy to pocket the profit. But I do think the Banksy craze is crazy, but I would be willing to cash in on a windfall.

I did the conversion, and it's estimated to be worth 6.6 million US. That was no mere tenfold increase...

[Someone]

Crazy or no, that painting is adorable. He can paint on my crapshack any time.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Banksy graffitis a private house, causing the value of said house to rise tenfold. Derpers fall all over themselves haughtily insisting if he defaced their house THEY would paint right over that because it's stupid and wrong. Fuckin' idiots.

Only Just Asking Questions is doing that, AFAICT. Everyone else is disagreeing with him. He's being enough of a fool over it for two people, though.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Crazy or no, that painting is adorable. He can paint on my crapshack any time.

I would let him paint my nutsack if it would make it worth more.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Crazy or no, that painting is adorable. He can paint on my crapshack any time.

I agree. He may have his detractors, but you'd have to be nuts to deny that he's a very talented artist.

Originally Posted by Someone

Only Just Asking Questions is doing that, AFAICT. Everyone else is disagreeing with him. He's being enough of a fool over it for two threads worth of people, though.

FTFY

Originally Posted by Someone

I would let him paint my nutsack if it would make it worth more.

A coat of paint hiding your nutstack certainly won't decrease its value.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

I agree. He may have his detractors, but you'd have to be nuts to deny that he's a very talented artist.

He is talented. But things like the shredder stunt makes me think there is a lot of the Emperor's New Clothes going on with him and in general I believe the art world is a weird system where much of the value is also the Emperor's New Clothes.

But as far as talent goes, that is often in the eye of the beholder. You can explain to me how artists like Rothko are talented and I will still believe there is no real talent involved.

Banksy is talented but of course thousands of undiscovered artists are probably just as talented. He; unlike most; has figured out how to market himself while still alive. That is his greatest achievement.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Now we're cooking!

I guess that was your chef d'oeuvre.

[Someone]

The worst part about having a Banksy on your house would be that now you have to protect it.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

He is talented. But things like the shredder stunt makes me think there is a lot of the Emperor's New Clothes going on with him and in general I believe the art world is a weird system where much of the value is also the Emperor's New Clothes.

Gotta agree with you there, on both points.

But as far as talent goes, that is often in the eye of the beholder. You can explain to me how artists like Rothko are talented and I will still believe there is no real talent involved.

Never heard of Rothko, so I googled and have to agree. But that illustrates your point about 'eye of the beholder', because plenty of people would agree with your assessment of Rothko, if applied to my favorite artist (of the ones I don't know personally), Jackson Pollock. I could tell you some things about mathematical analyses that have been done on his paintings that show he actually was aiming for something specific, and getting closer and closer to it (so much so, that you can date his paintings, and comment on their probable authenticity, by doing that analysis) even though the math behind that analysis was still 20 or more years in the future. But that's getting into territory for a thread in the appropriate forum. The Snark Thread ain't it. Expecto's head will be ing soon, if we don't drop it here. If anyone wants to continue this digression, start a thread, announce it here, and I'll be on that thread like white on rice.

Banksy is talented but of course thousands of undiscovered artists are probably just as talented. He; unlike most; has figured out how to market himself while still alive. That is his greatest achievement.

Also agree with this. The few artists I know personally are 'undiscovered', and probably will remain so, both throughout their lives, and after they've croaked, too. Marketing is as important as talent. The artists that got famous only after their deaths, only got famous because someone had a stash of their work, and flogged marketed it for all it was worth, and got rich off the dead artist's corpse.

I can't begrudge Banksy his time in the money spotlight...

Gotta get off this subject before expecto --- 'Out'.