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23rd April 2016, 01:20 PM
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Game of Thrones - Season 6
It's back!
 Title of the first episode is The Red Woman.Are we doing open spoilers after an episode airs? Speculation and talk about differences from the books are okay? I'm not remembering much about where season five left off. Sansa and Reek have jumped out of captivity. Arya is blind. Jon is dead (?). Dany is off on her own but surrounded by Dothraki (?) Don't recall where we left Tyrion. Wasn't he in that arena, after the dragon came and rescued Dany? Is Stannis still alive? 
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24th April 2016, 11:02 AM
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Rewatched the last episode of S5.
Even though it wasn't shown, I guess we should assume Stannis is really truly dead. I'll miss him. Tyrion, Grey Worm, and Missandei are in charge at Mereen, with Varys' help. I still don't know how Dany's ring in the middle of that huge plain will be seen, let alone be helpful in tracking her. Jamie is on his way back to King's Landing with his daughter's body. Cersei will not be pleased.
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25th April 2016, 07:41 AM
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I agree. It was a 'comfortable' premiere -- relaxing and quiet, no big surprises.
The young Snake women are still disappointing as actors and characters, but maybe we won't see much more of them. What do they have left to do? Melisandre at the end -- the director said it was van Houten's head on another woman's body, like what they did last season with Cersei's walk of shame. I like a Melisandre who's lost her faith.
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25th April 2016, 08:40 AM
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I think the writers took heed at the crashing lack of interest in the Dorne storyline and elected to nip that shit in the bud. I assume the Sand Snakes will now be in charge so we don't actually have to follow their every move in consolidating power--I hope we'll only see them again when they decide to start a shootin' war.
I like the Melisandre reveal, it makes the character make SO much more sense because ancient and knowing is far more palatable than young and godstruck. It also makes a mock of all the slobbering guys trying to get into her pants--none of them ever really know what's on the inside, do they? Aw, Brienne, you faithful creature, you! The entire episode was like a huge hand setting up the chess pieces for another game, I sighed happily and settled in for the ride.
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25th April 2016, 09:38 AM
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25th April 2016, 10:58 AM
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In the books we have seen all of Dany's, Arya's and Tyrion's story for this season, but none of Jon's story. Zombie Jon Snow next episode for sure.
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25th April 2016, 10:59 AM
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25th April 2016, 11:08 AM
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Especially when Zombie Jon Snow joins up with her--it's making me laugh with all these "is he really dead?" freakouts because why the fuck do the Night's Watch and the Wildlings BURN THEIR DEAD? It's to keep them from getting up and fucking everyone over, remember? They don't get that boy on the barbecue tout de suite he's gonna wreak some havoc.
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25th April 2016, 11:11 AM
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And he won't link up with Danaerys until well after she marches North with the full might of Dorne.
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25th April 2016, 11:13 AM
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25th April 2016, 11:27 AM
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We are ahead of the books at the Wall and in Dorne and King's Landing.
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26th April 2016, 05:34 PM
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27th April 2016, 09:05 AM
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Overall a good episode.
I haven't read the books just seen the tv show. I too think Melisandre is going to do something, possibly sacrifice herself, to bring back Snow. And that's an interesting question AuntiePam. I never really thought about that. Why does she want to install a King? Why was she ever with Stannis? What is her motivation and plans? Maybe her reasonings are explained more in the books. It was nice to see Theon some what be his old self again and basically go to sacrifice himself so that his "sister" could get away. The Dorne stuff is boring. If they're going to keep that storyline going I hope now that that chick is basically in charge they will go to war with Kings Landing. I really want to see more and know more about zombie Mountain.
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27th April 2016, 09:18 AM
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Or maybe it was power for herself and her god. Converts. Sacrifices. Establish a caliphate.
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27th April 2016, 09:21 AM
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27th April 2016, 11:54 AM
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2nd May 2016, 08:24 AM
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There was a lot to like in this episode -- "Home".
Bran's vision -- Ned and Benjen as children, and aunt Lyanna. Theon and Sansa, Theon apologizing for what he's done to the Starks and deciding to go home. The high septon hearing Jamie confess his sins and not doing a damn thing (!) -- what's his game? Tommen asking Cersei for help. Say what you will about Joffrey, he wouldn't have sat by and watched what happened to his mother. Davos asking Melisandre "Don't you have some magic?" Seeing Yara again. Go Yara! Tyrion freeing the dragons -- especially cool was that the collars were made so that it didn't take a lot of effort to unlock them. The Wildlings coming to the rescue. And Jon being brought back to life, of course. Will he be different?
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2nd May 2016, 08:38 AM
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2nd May 2016, 10:01 AM
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 As soon as Roose learned that the baby was a boy, he should have had Ramsay locked up. It's hard to believe he didn't see Ramsay for what he was, that he thought telling Ramsay "You'll always be my firstborn" was enough. Did Balon's death help Melisandre's magic?
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2nd May 2016, 12:31 PM
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Tyrion and the dragons was awesome, especially when the second one turned his head to place the pin close enough for him to pull--they're definitely very intelligent and hopefully a bit less destructive to livestock and small children than their brother.
We all knew Jon wouldn't for really for reals be dead but it was nice to see it come about--it's interesting that Melisandre had basically NO faith in her own ability to make this come about nor that her god would answer her, but he did it anyway. This tells me that she's JUST a conduit for the god's will and all her burning little girls at the stake is probably not actually necessary. Bloodthirsty bitch!  The Ironborn need a course in safer architecture because it strikes me as a terrible idea to have to go over that shaky ass suspension bridge just to go to bed every night, let alone meeting murderous kinfolk on the way. Hodor could talk, once upon a time!  He's having a little more trouble hauling Bran around though. Thought he was gonna give himself a hernia picking him up off the ground.
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2nd May 2016, 01:02 PM
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I wonder if Hodor losing speech was from an injury or some other kind of shock.
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2nd May 2016, 01:23 PM
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Well, I bet Bran can find out pretty easily, what with all that Past TV he has built up on his mental DVR.
 "Whatchoo talkin' bout?" "Hodor!" Sorry, that was just raging to get out, I'm all better now.
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2nd May 2016, 01:58 PM
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Dunno, I only read the first two (?) I think--I didn't want to get five books in and have that fat bastard die on me before finishing the story. Good thing, too, it's allowed me to enjoy the show as a more or less Unsullied.
Anyway, it strikes me as a super awesome avenue for exposition--much better than using the chatty hoor method.
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2nd May 2016, 03:21 PM
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That's a good question--he and Varys are revealed to be the puppetmasters of all sorts of enormous plots and schemes then Littlefinger vanishes and Varys is playing straight man to Tyrion in Meereen. I smell a rat, something's amiss.
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2nd May 2016, 05:10 PM
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I don't think we've seen him since he dropped Sansa off at Winterfell to marry Ramsay. [checks wiki] Okay, we haven't seen him since he had a conversation in King's Landing with Olenna Tyrell.
Olenna and Sansa know he's responsible for Joffrey's death, so maybe he figures it's best to hide somewhere, while there are Lannisters still alive. And where's Lady Olenna? Her granddaughter is in a prison! Methinks this story has too many characters, too many plots.
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2nd May 2016, 05:17 PM
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Then again, this episode reminds us quite neatly of all those dropped stitches we thought they'd left forever, now knitted right back in slick as owl shit through a tin horn.
And if anything, this is the extremely stripped down model, books are chock full of way more characters and arcs than the show could handle in fifty seasons. 
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9th May 2016, 08:37 AM
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I thought this was a really satisfying episode -- mostly build-up but on track -- to what, who knows.
Questions raised too. Why didn't Arya recite her entire death list? She didn't name the ones she'd killed, just the ones who are left. Why the scene with Sam and Gilly? I liked seeing them, but what part will Sam play, now that Jon's no longer needing a maester at the Wall? Where is Jon going?
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9th May 2016, 09:39 AM
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Well, Sam doesn't know Jon no longer needs a maester, and Castle Black still does. Unlike Jon, Sam's watch has not ended and they might still need the kind of info the maesters have available to them.
I think we're pretty close to finding out if the fans have noodled out just who Jon's mom really is. Tree TV is turning out to be pretty freaking neat and it was interesting to discover that Mr Super Honorable Eddard Stark covered up a back stabbing as a combat victory. Not so much there, Young Ned.  Fuck Olly. Little shit. GODDAMMIT WILL YOU ASSHOLES STOP KILLING THE DIREWOLVES? And Rickon does look to be about thirty--he looks older than Bran!
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9th May 2016, 09:41 AM
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9th May 2016, 09:46 AM
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Oh, I don't care that the dude got backstabbed, I just think Ned claiming he kilt that badass two broadsword fighter in a fair fight was pretty shitty. When you're trying to kill someone it doesn't much matter HOW you do it, but lying about it afterward and telling your kids you defeated this amazeballs fighter in single combat was chickenshit. At most all he did was give the dude the mercy stroke.
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9th May 2016, 10:21 AM
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That said, if I hadn't seen the speculation everywhere for the last five years, I doubt I'd make the connection. In fact, I know I wouldn't. There hasn't been enough Lyanna talk and very little, if any, about Rhaegar, and nothing about the two of them together. I would have heard those screams from the tower and thought "Uh oh, someone's raping Lyanna." Not
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16th May 2016, 08:48 AM
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Well, that was six kinds of awesome.
I know it would have taken the whole hour, but I really wanted to hear Sansa and Jon catch up, for them to share what's happened to them since they each left Winterfell. Sansa: I married Tyrion Lannister. Jon: What the fuck? Sansa: Littlefinger and Olenna Tyrell poisoned Joffrey. Jon: What the fuck? Sansa: And he pushed Aunt Lysa through the moon door. Jon: What the fuck? Sansa: Ramsay cut off Theon's dick. Jon:  Loved Tormund leering at Brienne.
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16th May 2016, 09:33 AM
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Folks at the AV Club are bitching that Osha's death was unnecessary, that GoT just has to kill off a secondary character in every episode. Do you agree? I don't. No way Ramsay believed Osha could be trusted, not after taking care of Rickon all that time. Ramsay had to kill her, and we should appreciate that her death was relatively quick. I like Yara too. It was interesting, the difference in those brother-sister reunions. And the similarities.
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16th May 2016, 11:07 AM
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Osha was just cleanup, she was an interesting character but really, what more did she have to do? I'm getting a little tired of the OMG LOOK HOW EEEEEVIL RAMSAY IS LOOK WHAT HE DID!!1! stuff because I get it--he's an asshole, he's sick en la cabeza, he never lets his guard drop and he's paranoid AF. Got it. At least we didn't have to deal with another fucking torture scene or him feeding someone else to the dogs. Next time those dogs eat someone it had better fucking well be Ramsay.
Yeah, overall the sisters are doing a lot better than the brothers are. Of course, one died and one got 'is dick lopped off so I guess we can excuse their angst a bit, but I'd say Sansa is the close runner up in the "holy shit, my life is FUCKED" category and she's all ready to kick ass and take names. I did love their reunion, although it's been pointed out that this is actually the first time their characters have been onscreen together (or interacted on screen at least) in the whole story. It's nice to have it pointed out that whatever petty bullshit stood between them, real life has a way of putting all that nonsense into perfect perspective. Tyrion and Dany together make one really effective ruler. She sure does like to burn shit though, don't she? Hope all the offenderati who were squeaking and beeping about her not getting her tits out will STFU about it now--turns out she just doesn't appreciate gratuitous nudity when it applies to her, which I applaud. And Littlefinger pops in to stir the pot--hi, Petyr! His brain dead little puppet is sure growing fast but seems not to have lost one whit of his taste for chucking people out the Moon Door. Little asshole psychopath.
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16th May 2016, 12:49 PM
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17th May 2016, 06:32 AM
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I watch GoT on the DVR, fast-forward the HBO promos and don't watch the "next on", so I didn't know that there's an After Thrones on-demand feature with GoT experts discussing the episode.
It's very enlightening. They don't spoil -- they highlight and explain. For example, I didn't understand why Rickon and Osha were brought to Ramsay, who brought them, or why they were with that guy in the first place. He was supposed to be protecting them. He was Smalljohn Umber, a former Stark ally, and Bran had told Osha that they'd be safe with him. And they were, until Rob killed the Karstark. Or something like that. It made me appreciate the complexity of Martin's story.
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17th May 2016, 09:11 AM
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Umber just needs Ramsay against the Wildlings. Last edited by Doyle; 17th May 2016 at 09:22 AM.
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17th May 2016, 11:09 AM
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Oh, and that guy that Littlefinger was arguing with, the one Robyn wanted to see fly? His son was that entitled Nightwatch smartass from the very first episode. Killed by a Walker, during the search for Benjen Stark.
I have a book around somewhere with just the history of the Seven Kingdoms, with all the family trees. Maybe it's time to take a look at it.
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31st May 2016, 12:15 PM
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In case anyone was wondering -- I sure was -- Here's an article explaining who Blackfish is and why he's important.
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6th June 2016, 10:39 AM
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Two of my favorites back on the screen -- Sandor and Bronn.
Looked like Ian McShane was having some fun. I had forgotten that he'd said in an interview that his role was a one and done. Cheered that Margaery (sp?) warned her grandma. I hope she doesn't underestimate the High Sparrow. He shouldn't fully trust her, and he probably doesn't.
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6th June 2016, 02:26 PM
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RRREEEELEEEEAAASE THE HOOOOUND!
 Sorry, been wanting to do that all day. High Sparrow def does not trust Margaery, that's why she has a dour shadow with her at all times. I think she's a match for him, though, she's been playing men since she was a baby. Arya needs to start being a little more cautious--I doubt that was all part of her master plan!
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7th June 2016, 08:38 AM
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Why did Arya leave herself so vulnerable? Where was Needle? Where did she get the money for transport to Westeros? Jacquen was already shown to have Arya's face mask. Could Jacquen been posing as Arya?
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7th June 2016, 09:43 AM
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Re Arya's money -- she stole it. I have a vague memory of Arya picking pockets last season. Maybe I made that up.
Needle -- under her clothes, hanging down from her waist? Jacquen posing as Arya? Seriously? He wouldn't let himself be stabbed. She was vulnerable because she was over-confident.
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7th June 2016, 10:40 AM
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We shall see.
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