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Borborygmi 3rd August 2021 02:47 AM

Greatest HIT ARTIST of the '70s, Round 1b: Barry Manilow vs. Bread
 
Barry Manilow (#9 seed, 9 qualifying Top 100 hits)
 1975 
 36
Barry Manilow "Mandy"
 1975 
 38
Barry Manilow "Could It Be Magic"
 1976 
 13
Barry Manilow "I Write the Songs"
 1976 
 95
Barry Manilow "Tryin' to Get the Feeling Again"
 1977 
 37
Barry Manilow "Looks Like We Made It"
 1977 
 65
Barry Manilow "Weekend in New England"
 1978 
 27
Barry Manilow "Can't Smile Without You"
 1978 
 74
Barry Manilow "Copacabana"
 1979 
 93
Barry Manilow "Somewhere in the Night"

versus

Bread (#56 seed, 4 qualifying Top 100 hits)
 1970 
 13
Bread "Make It with You"
 1971 
 61
Bread "If"
 1972 
 52
Bread "Everything I Own"
 1977 
 70
Bread "Lost Without Your Love"


All poll threads in this mini-megapoll for Barry Manilow
All poll threads in this mini-megapoll for Bread

Dr. Winston O'Boogie 3rd August 2021 05:08 AM

Anti-Barry vote. I can't evoke enough negativity against his opponent - they're as bland as white bread.

Pencil 3rd August 2021 05:13 AM

Her name is Lola.

BM is horrible. Copacabana is horrible too, but in a way that you keep coming back to Taco Bell*, even though you know it's horrible.






*Insert fast food place of choice.

Detroit Hoser 3rd August 2021 05:24 AM

You are correct, my graphillytic friend! Mostly, anyway. Barry arranged an album of Rosemary Clooney songs for Bette Midler that is simply wonderful, including a duet they did of "Slow Boat to China," which has easily become one of my feel-good tunes.

Bread is just plain shit, that's all.

Zeener Diode 3rd August 2021 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pencil (Post 1711050)
*Insert fast food place of choice.

Nah, it's as bad here as it is over there.

Borborygmi 3rd August 2021 06:55 AM

I don't hate either of these as much as I'm supposed to, although I'm with presumably everyone else in that I certainly don't expect to vote for the winner in Round 2.

Pogo 3rd August 2021 10:57 AM

After my rant in the main poll about Bread, I had to vote for Manilow.

fucktard loser 3rd August 2021 11:01 AM

Barry Manilow is not greater than pizza.

What Exit? 3rd August 2021 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fucktard loser (Post 1711121)
Barry Manilow is not greater than pizza.

He's close to the worst ever.

I mean he's like the fried liver my mom use to make.

Rebo 3rd August 2021 12:19 PM

Barry Manilow is definitely no Reuben, but he's better than a Bread grilled cheese...

NAF1138 3rd August 2021 01:28 PM

Manilow is, shockingly, a LOT better than the band Bread.

Crazy. Bread is just THAT bad a band guys.

Larry Borgia 3rd August 2021 01:41 PM

No vote. I'll vote against the winner in the next round.

Monstera deliciosa 3rd August 2021 04:23 PM

I voted for Bread, but the list of hits did remind me of a Barry Manilow song I actually kind of like and had forgotten about. "Tryin' to Get the Feeling Again" is halfway decent. Actually two-thirds decent. I find the first 2/3rds of the song to be quite touching, because falling out of love is a bitch. The last third is full of the usual Barry bombast, turning the whole thing into a production number.

silenus 3rd August 2021 04:51 PM

One of my best friends is a Fanilow, so this vote is for her.

Oxirane 3rd August 2021 05:15 PM

:gun to the head: "No, silenus would NEVER vote for Barry Manilow, NEVER, I tell you!!!"

silenus 3rd August 2021 06:13 PM

Let's see...someone who can actually write a catchy tune and sing vs Bread.

I would vote for David Boreanaz as Angel butchering "Mandy" over anything by Bread any day of the week.

NAF1138 3rd August 2021 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silenus (Post 1711201)
Let's see...someone who can actually write a catchy tune and sing vs Bread.

I would vote for David Boreanaz as Angel butchering "Mandy" over anything by Bread any day of the week.

One of the few sane posts in the thread.

Borborygmi 4th August 2021 02:59 AM

Fun fact: David Boreanaz's father did the weather on Philadelphia local news for a bazillion years.

Well, maybe not that much fun, but I can't think of Boreanaz without thinking of happy weather guy Dave Roberts.

Dr. Winston O'Boogie 4th August 2021 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silenus (Post 1711201)
Let's see...someone who can actually write a catchy tune and sing vs Bread.

I would vote for David Boreanaz as Angel butchering "Mandy" over anything by Bread any day of the week.

Um, Barry didn't write any of those songs (actually, he composed the music for "Could It Be Magic", but he stole the tune from Chopin.

At least Bread, in all of their bleached processed goodness, wrote their own music.

silenus 4th August 2021 07:02 AM

So they get total blame for it.

Zeener Diode 4th August 2021 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Winston O'Boogie (Post 1711270)
At least Bread, in all of their bleached processed goodness, wrote their own music.

Sorry, but that's not enough to overcome the blandness of their songs.

Detroit Hoser 4th August 2021 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Winston O'Boogie (Post 1711270)

Um, Barry didn't write any of those songs (actually, he composed the music for "Could It Be Magic", but he stole the tune from Chopin.

He based the music on Frédéric Chopin's Prelude in C minor, Opus 28, Number 20, crediting Chopin on the album. This isn't unheard of in the music world, not even unheard of before popular times. And nowhere in the otherwise very strict rules of the Megapolls is it written that Barry Manilow had to have written each of his hits.

I get that you hate Barry Manilow, that's understandable and maybe a little desirable. But don't fucking lie about it, dude.


According to Wiki, these are some of the songs for which Manilow wrote the music:

Bermuda Triangle
Copacabana
Could It Be Magic
Daybreak
Even Now
I Dig New York
I Made It Through the Rain
I Won't Be the One to Let Go
I'm Your Man
It's a Miracle
It's Just Another New Year's Eve
New York City Rhythm
Only in Chicago
Perfect Isn't Easy
Some Kind of Friend
Stay
Street Singin'
Superheroes
This One's for You
When October Goes

silenus 4th August 2021 07:43 AM

Hell, I'd vote for Barry's jingles before I'd vote for Bread.

Dr. Winston O'Boogie 4th August 2021 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weedy Crocker (Post 1711314)
I get that you hate Barry Manilow, that's understandable and maybe a little desirable. But don't fucking lie about it, dude.

Woah, woah, woah. Let's take it down a bit here. I was commenting on the hits in the list, which FACTUALLY were not written by BM. I don't give a pair of fetid dingo's kidneys one way or the other. Neither one of them is going far in this anyway.

silenus 4th August 2021 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Winston O'Boogie (Post 1711339)
Neither one of them is going far in this anyway.



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Borborygmi 4th August 2021 09:25 AM

You know, as the years pass by and people's passions and interests change with the times there are fewer and fewer good places on the Internet to scream complaints about Bread into the void. I'm proud that these 70s music megapolls are providing a venue for this underserved need.

JackieLikesVariety 4th August 2021 01:12 PM

nicely said.

Detroit Hoser 4th August 2021 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Winston O'Boogie (Post 1711339)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Weedy Crocker (Post 1711314)
I get that you hate Barry Manilow, that's understandable and maybe a little desirable. But don't fucking lie about it, dude.

Woah, woah, woah. Let's take it down a bit here. I was commenting on the hits in the list, which FACTUALLY were not written by BM. I don't give a pair of fetid dingo's kidneys one way or the other. Neither one of them is going far in this anyway.

FACTUALLY Copacabana and Could It Be Magic were written by Barry Manilow. Which hits did Three Dog Night write, again?

thylacine 4th August 2021 07:17 PM

Is there any way to come out of this vote without shuddering? Useless carbs vs useless sequins. It was close

Pogo 4th August 2021 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weedy Crocker (Post 1711441)
Which hits did Three Dog Night write, again?

In earlier megapolls, I mentioned that 3DN is a cover band. I kinda started to check up on myself after the fact. Here's what I found from studio albums:
Album 1 - Three Dog Night, they wrote 0 of 11 songs
Album 2 - Suitable for Framing, they wrote 1 of 10 songs
  • Dreaming isn't Good for You
Album 3 - It Ain't Easy, they wrote 1 of 9 songs
  • Rock and Roll Widow
Album 4 - Naturally, they wrote 1 of 10 songs
  • Fire Eater
Album 5 - Harmony, they wrote 1 of 10 songs
  • Jam
Album 6 - Seven Separate Fools, they wrote 0 of 11 songs
Album 7 - Cyan, they wrote 3 of 9 songs
  • Happy Song
  • Storybook Feeling
  • Into My Life
Album 8 - Hard Labor, they wrote 1 of 9 songs
  • Prelude - which is not credited with writers but I count them
Album 9 - Coming Down Your Way, they wrote 2 of 10 songs
  • Midnight Flyer (Eli Wheeler) by a new member
  • Kite Man by a new member
Album 10 - American Pastime, they wrote 1 of 9 songs
  • Hang On by one of the new members, above
Album 11 - It's a Jungle, they wrote 0 of 5 songs

So, they wrote 11 of 103 songs and none of the hits. The singles portion of their wikipedia discography indicates that 0 of the 11 were released.

In a similar fashion, I think Joe Cocker is a cover guy; I can't name a song he wrote. And in the 70s poll, we have the Linda Ronstadt vs Joan Baez battle for Cover Queen.

Jaglavak 4th August 2021 10:24 PM

I'd rather listen to a dumpster rolling down a flight of stairs than Manilow.

What Exit? 5th August 2021 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaglavak (Post 1711488)
I'd rather listen to a dumpster rolling down a flight of stairs than Manilow.

That would be a lot better. :science:

Detroit Hoser 5th August 2021 04:40 AM

I'm not sure I'm familiar with any of the 3DN originals. Maybe it's best they did covers.

Dr. Winston O'Boogie 5th August 2021 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weedy Crocker (Post 1711441)
FACTUALLY Copacabana and Could It Be Magic were written by Barry Manilow. Which hits did Three Dog Night write, again?


Per Wikipedia,
Quote:

"Copacabana", also known as "Copacabana (At the Copa)", is a song recorded by Barry Manilow. Written by Manilow, Jack Feldman, and Bruce Sussman, it was released in 1978 as the third and final single from Manilow's fifth studio album, Even Now (1978).
Whoops - I missed the Manilow part in the "written by". Probably because the way Wiki works and the others were highlighted.

I did mention that he wrote the music for Could It Be Magic, but he stole the melody from Chopin.

And, what does Three Dog Night have to do with a competition between Barely Manenough and WonderBread? Lighten up, Francis.

Secret_Squirrel 5th August 2021 01:34 PM

There is a long tradition of artists borrowing melodies and ideas from classical music. The Beatles copped classical stuff on songs like Because. I mention this because (no pun intended) I can't quite figure out whether calling out Manilow for doing it is a criticism or just stating the facts.

As far as 3DN and songwriting is concerned, it isn't important. 3DN joined the longstanding tradition of not being writers, but singing other people's songs. That's pretty much how things worked until the 60's when artists writing and performing their own material became commonplace. There were, of course exceptions, like say, Hank Williams, but generally speaking, singers performed material written by others.

Many of my favorite singers were not writers. Ella Fitzgerald, Frank Sinatra and Tony Bennett to name a few.

Dr. Winston O'Boogie 6th August 2021 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Secret_Squirrel (Post 1711659)
I can't quite figure out whether calling out Manilow for doing it is a criticism or just stating the facts.

Just stating facts (slightly incorrectly, I will admit). Correction - it started out not as a criticism of BM, but as a plus for Bread.

Joe Cocker is one of my favorite artists (and absolutely my favorite raspy-voiced singer!), and (AFAIK) didn't write any of his songs. Linda Rondstat is one of my favorites, but, again, didn't do any original music (certainly none of her hits were). Don't know about all, but most of Santana's hits were covers. Performing other peoples music isn't a negative, but writing your own is a plus.

Sometimes the cover is better than the original. When I hear Cocker's version of "Leave Your Hat On", I get "film noir" images - a guy standing there in a trench coat and fedora, fog billowing around him. When I hear Randy Newman's original, I imagine a fat guy missing a few teeth standing there in stained boxers and a white t-shirt. Much rather hear Cocker.

Borborygmi 12th August 2021 02:15 AM

The favorite '70s hit artist 1a and 1b polls close in about 24 hours. This one is still close.

What Exit? 12th August 2021 05:48 AM

People, I know Bread is a crappy group. But no go on record encouraging Mr. Crappy Earworm. He's the worst.

Borborygmi 12th August 2021 06:43 AM

I love that this is, by far, the longest thread from Round 1 of the minimega. Passions clearly run deep with these artists.

What Exit? 12th August 2021 07:07 AM

If just one of you change your votes, we can flush this BM away in round 1 and you can see Bread get properly defeated in round 2. :science: Don't you want to see Bread defeated in a landslide?

@Borborygmi, @Doctor French, @JackieLikesVariety, @Kat, @NAF1138, @Pencil, @Pogo, @Rebo, @Secret_Squirrel, @silenus, @thylacine, @Weedy Crocker, @Wolf Larsen, @Zeener Diode

NAF1138 12th August 2021 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Exit? (Post 1713704)
If just one of you change your votes, we can flush this BM away in round 1 and you can see Bread get properly defeated in round 2. :science: Don't you want to see Bread defeated in a landslide?

@Borborygmi, @Doctor French, @JackieLikesVariety, @Kat, @NAF1138, @Pencil, @Pogo, @Rebo, @Secret_Squirrel, @silenus, @thylacine, @Weedy Crocker, @Wolf Larsen, @Zeener Diode

No, I want bread defeated in Round 1

silenus 12th August 2021 09:01 AM

Again, one of my best friends is a Fanilow. I must represent her interests here.

NoClueBoy 12th August 2021 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaglavak (Post 1711488)
I'd rather listen to a dumpster rolling down a flight of stairs than Manilow.

STOMP!

NoClueBoy 12th August 2021 10:17 AM

In a similar vein... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqJdzYY_Fas

:nancy:

Kat 12th August 2021 02:07 PM

I am still mad at bread.

thylacine 12th August 2021 04:29 PM

Sorry WE but as much as I dislike the old bazza he did contribute more to the 70s than the toast crumbs. Some of it was nearly veering in a positive direction.

Oxirane 12th August 2021 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kat (Post 1713797)
I am still mad at bread.

I am still mad at grilled cheese.

dba Fred 12th August 2021 05:51 PM

Ya can’t make a Ruben OR grilled cheese sandwich without Bread.

Bread went Truckin’ like the Grateful Dead:


And Bread was pro-freedom:


Barry Manilow is stale now, Bread shouldn’t get stale till the next round.

What Exit? 13th August 2021 03:08 AM

It really is super bland (Bread) vs. absolute shit (BM).

For the record, I didn't add that tag, but it is 100% accurate.

JackieLikesVariety 13th August 2021 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borborygmi (Post 1713700)
I love that this is, by far, the longest thread from Round 1 of the minimega. Passions clearly run deep with these artists.

I really can't get riled over this pairing ....but in the spirit of megapoll I reconsidered changing my vote and breaking the tie.

but, no. Manilow is better than Bread if only just.


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