Looking Glass Night Zero

[SisterCoyote]

In another moment Alice was through the glass, and had jumped lightly down into the Looking-glass room. The very first thing she did was to look whether there was a fire in the fireplace, and she was quite pleased to find that there was a real one, blazing away as brightly as the one she had left behind. 'So I shall be as warm here as I was in the old room,' thought Alice: 'warmer, in fact, because there'll be no one here to scold me away from the fire. Oh, what fun it'll be, when they see me through the glass in here, and can't get at me!'

Then she began looking about, and noticed that what could be seen from the old room was quite common and uninteresting, but that all the rest was as different as possible. For instance, the pictures on the wall next the fire seemed to be all alive, and the very clock on the chimney-piece (you know you can only see the back of it in the Looking-glass) had got the face of a little old man, and grinned at her.

'They don't keep this room so tidy as the other,' Alice thought to herself, as she noticed several of the chessmen down in the hearth among the cinders: but in another moment, with a little 'Oh!' of surprise, she was down on her hands and knees watching them. The chessmen were walking about, two and two!

'Here are the Red King and the Red Queen,' Alice said (in a whisper, for fear of frightening them), 'and there are the White King and the White Queen sitting on the edge of the shovel—and here are two castles walking arm in arm—I don't think they can hear me,' she went on, as she put her head closer down, 'and I'm nearly sure they can't see me. I feel somehow as if I were invisible—'

Here something began squeaking on the table behind Alice, and made her turn her head just in time to see one of the White Pawns roll over and begin kicking: she watched it with great curiosity to see what would happen next.

Thus begins the Zeroth Night on the other side of the Looking Glass. Please confirm receipt of your PMs here, and you may begin discussing strategy at once.

It may help you.

It may not.

Night Zero will continue through Monday, November 26, unless a majority (51%) of players wish it to start on Friday, November 23. Vote for the date on a New Line, if you would be so kind.

Player List
Rules

[Zeener Diode]

P/M received.

[SisterCoyote]

All Role PMs are out. Any questions about Roles should be sent privately to the Mod.

[Flying Squid with Goggles]

PM received. Do I really need a role? Isn't a flying squid Carrollian enough? Honestly, it fits right in with the tweedledum and the dees and the cats and caterpillars and rabbits in waistcoats and such...

[Wombat99]

PM received and

[Chucara]

PM received. Ready to play..

[crys]

Pm received



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[Giraffe]

PM received!

[Suburban Plankton]

I have my PM. Ooooohhh...the anticipation!

vote start Friday

My life is surprisingly mundane at the moment.

[Scáthach]

No thanksgiving here and I have an extremely boring weekend coming up.

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[guiri]

PM received!

Vote Start Friday

Happy Thanksgiving!

[Val Salva]

PM received

Either day is fine to start - I'm working Fri, Sat, Sun this w/e so I'll have minimal participation.

[EnderBoy]

Hello all.

PM Received.

Vote Either and/or both and/or neither.
I'm easy that way.

[Swammerdami]

PM received.



No Thanksgiving turkey for me, I'm afraid. Excepting my own children, the nearest other American is a 40-minute drive away, and we've hardly spoken since I learned he was a Ron Paul supporter who blamed the Illuminati for present-day malaise.

[Flying Squid with Goggles]

Sounds convincing.





Actually, it's all the same to me whether we start Friday or Monday. Hope my joke doesn't throw off your vote count, SisterCoyote.

[Giraffe]

Several new players this game, neato! (Hey EnderBoy, aka Enderw24!) FYI, we have a couple of convenience features you may enjoy:

1. Vote / unvote / askmod tags

[vote]vote Giraffe[/vote] =

[unvote]unvote Giraffe[/unvote] =

[askmod]SisterCoyote, what are you wearing right now? :pervert:[/askmod] = SisterCoyote, what are you wearing right now?

2. A vote-counting robot

http://www.giraffeboards.com/mafia_votecount.php

Anyone can use it, just enter the thread url in the box. (It does require properly-formatted votes, so it's always worth a double check, but it at least gives you a reasonable starting point.) See this thread for details.

You also have me, one of the best Mafia players in the history of the game. Sure, I led lynches on nothing but Townspeople in the last game (to the point that scum left me alive until Day six despite claiming Town Cop on Day two), but don't worry: I never let past results keep me from charging full steam ahead in future games. I can't be wrong every game, right?

[Scuba Ben]

Not all the lynch efforts you led resulted in lynching Townspeople; I never got lynched.

Don't worry about me this game, though; I have the role of Sir Not-Playing-In-This-Game.

[Inner Stickler]

I have my PM.

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Scuba Ben

Not all the lynch efforts you led resulted in lynching Townspeople; I never got lynched.

If I hadn't died on Day six, you were at the top of my scum list. Sure, Flying Squid was a bit suspicious, but not nearly as suspicious as Tinker getting a result on you the Night you were on the mission. So scum's real mistake in that game was killing me -- if they'd left me alive, I might have still managed to squeak out a win for them.

[Wombat99]

Originally Posted by Giraffe

If I hadn't died on Day six, you were at the top of my scum list. Sure, Flying Squid was a bit suspicious, but not nearly as suspicious as Tinker getting a result on you the Night you were on the mission. So scum's real mistake in that game was killing me -- if they'd left me alive, I might have still managed to squeak out a win for them.

I considered you an honorary member of the scum team for your efforts on our behalf.

[DaphneBlack]

PM received!

I'll be the first dissenter and



Thanksgiving will be keeping me busy this weekend.

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Wombat99

I considered you an honorary member of the scum team for your efforts on our behalf.

Me too.

Which is pretty funny, given my threat to join your team if no one commented on my ironclad case on Total Ulla (Town Doctor). Little did I know I was already a member.

[SisterCoyote]

I am forbidden to access the vote count robot, for some reason.

Which means I'll be doing the vote counts entirely by hand

Which probably means lots of errors.

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by SisterCoyote

I am forbidden to access the vote count robot, for some reason.

Which means I'll be doing the vote counts entirely by hand

Which probably means lots of errors.

What does it say when you try to access it?

Edit: Never mind, I see the same error. Fixing it...

[Giraffe]

OK, I think it's fixed, please let me know if you have any more problems with it.

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Evening all! Excited to see this one start up!

[SisterCoyote]

Yay!

Originally Posted by Vote Counting Robot

Start Friday (3): Wombat99 (5), Giraffe (8)[16], Suburban Plankton (9), guiri (11)
Illuminati (1): Flying Squid with Goggles (15)
Either And/or Both And/or Neither (1): EnderBoy (13)
Friday (1): Septimus (14)

post #1: SisterCoyote voted
post #5: Wombat99 voted Start Friday
post #8: Giraffe voted Start Friday
post #9: Suburban Plankton voted Start Friday
post #11: guiri voted Start Friday
post #13: EnderBoy voted Either And/or Both And/or Neither
post #14: Septimus voted Friday
post #15: Flying Squid with Goggles voted Illuminati
post #16: Giraffe illegally voted Giraffe
post #16: Giraffe unvoted Giraffe


I think my favorite thing is Post #16 there on the list.

[Giraffe]

As you can see, four votes got left off because although they were blue and bolded, they didn't start with the word "vote".

[Chucara]

Don't mind starting friday, but I won't be able to participate until sunday.

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Giraffe....Then the code needs to be changed to scrape for any blue/bolded text..... :oP

<3 the wife of a programmer

[Colby11]

PM received

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Dizzymrslizzy

Giraffe....Then the code needs to be changed to scrape for any blue/bolded text..... :oP

<3 the wife of a programmer

It actually originally used to do that, but people like to bold and blue the names of confirmed Townspeople as the game progresses, which looked like votes to the script and confused everything. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to code around that, so instead I decided to require the use of the word vote as part of a valid vote.

Something else I could do would be to include the word vote in the vote tags, i.e. [vote]Giraffe[/vote] would resolve to vote Giraffe. But then people couldn't use the vote tags as shortcuts to bold and blue Townspeople names, so that's not a perfect solution either.

Really, we just need to hire an intern and lock them in a closet somewhere with a laptop and make them give us a vote count whenever we want it. We could shock them whenever they make a mistake.

[crys]

Originally Posted by Giraffe

It actually originally used to do that, but people like to bold and blue the names of confirmed Townspeople as the game progresses, which looked like votes to the script and confused everything. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to code around that, so instead I decided to require the use of the word vote as part of a valid vote.

Something else I could do would be to include the word vote in the vote tags, i.e. [vote]Giraffe[/vote] would resolve to vote Giraffe. But then people couldn't use the vote tags as shortcuts to bold and blue Townspeople names, so that's not a perfect solution either.

Really, we just need to hire an intern and lock them in a closet somewhere with a laptop and make them give us a vote count whenever we want it. We could shock them whenever they make a mistake.

Yeah so I'm watching criminal minds right now.....and its a crime based on a video game where they shock their players when they don't follow orders

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[peekercpa]

vote end boy

do you like fried chicken with that waffle?

[peekercpa]

and ffs. shit we've got our roles. game is on. who the fuck cares when the actual starter shoots the gun. carp there is always a lot of posturing even before that occurrence.

game starts now we can adjust the end of Day because of the arfing turkey extermination at a later time.

my two cents, anyways.

[peekercpa]

Originally Posted by Giraffe

Really, we just need to hire an intern and lock them in a closet somewhere with a laptop and make them give us a vote count whenever we want it. We could shock them whenever they make a mistake.

<snipped>

and after their time is served we end up with pizza and burby.

sorry, failed experiment.

[Inner Stickler]

Originally Posted by Giraffe

As you can see, four votes got left off because although they were blue and bolded, they didn't start with the word "vote".

ARGH! All I want is consistency! Look, just get together with idle and the two of you decide if vote tags include the word vote or no. Clearly my brain is incapable of remembering which board has which conventions.

[Suburban Plankton]

Originally Posted by Giraffe

Something else I could do would be to include the word vote in the vote tags, i.e. [vote]Giraffe[/vote] would resolve to vote Giraffe. But then people couldn't use the vote tags as shortcuts to bold and blue Townspeople names, so that's not a perfect solution either.

I fail to see the problem here. People shouldn't be abusing the [vote] tags like this in the first place. If all they want is to highlight players names, they can do it the old fashioned way, with [b] and [color] tags!




Sheesh...kids these days...always looking for a quick fix...they have no idea how easy they have it...

[Suburban Plankton]

Originally Posted by Inner Stickler

ARGH! All I want is consistency! Look, just get together with idle and the two of you decide if vote tags include the word vote or no. Clearly my brain is incapable of remembering which board has which conventions.

Let's just code it so that the [vote] tags will parse the text within, adding the word "Vote" if it isn't already present, but not if it's already there...otherwise we'll end up with things like

Vote: Vote peeker

which makes no sense at all, because Vote peeker isn't even playing this game.





Though it does give me an idea for a user name for my next sock puppet.

[LightFoot]

Pm received



Monday should be a mess for me

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Suburban Plankton

Let's just code it so that the [vote] tags will parse the text within, adding the word "Vote" if it isn't already present, but not if it's already there...otherwise we'll end up with things like

Vote: Vote peeker

which makes no sense at all, because Vote peeker isn't even playing this game.

OK, you've inspired me to take another crack at figuring out how to use logic within custom BB codes. Here's my first attempt, the [testvote] tag, which strips anything that looks like vote or vote: from the text and then reassembles it with a uniform vote [target]:

[testvote]VOTE: coding[/testvote] = [testvote]VOTE: coding[/testvote]

Let's see if the vote-counting robot can still parse it...

[gnarlycharlie]

PM received.

i'm neither an American nor in the US so no Thanksgiving for me.



on that note, Happy Thanksgiving!

Originally Posted by Suburban Plankton

Let's just code it so that the [vote] tags will parse the text within, adding the word "Vote" if it isn't already present, but not if it's already there...otherwise we'll end up with things like

Vote: Vote peeker

which makes no sense at all, because Vote peeker isn't even playing this game.





Though it does give me an idea for a user name for my next sock puppet.

peeker IS in the game.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by gnarlycharlie

PM received.

i'm neither an American nor in the US so no Thanksgiving for me.



on that note, Happy Thanksgiving!

peeker IS in the game.

I think you missed the little subtle twist in the comment

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Giraffe

OK, you've inspired me to take another crack at figuring out how to use logic within custom BB codes. Here's my first attempt, the [testvote] tag, which strips anything that looks like vote or vote: from the text and then reassembles it with a uniform vote [target]:

[testvote]VOTE: coding[/testvote] = [testvote]VOTE: coding[/testvote]

Let's see if the vote-counting robot can still parse it...

Nope. The robot is running on the server, so all it sees in the page source is the javascript function, not the final prettied up text. I'll have to think about this. (It may be the easiest thing to do is just give it a hint that the vote tags are being used via a div tag or script comment and then just do all the parsing in Perl.)

[Giraffe]

OK, I think I have everything working. I've replaced the vote and unvote tags with smarter versions to standardize the vote and unvote text, and rewritten the robot to properly parse them. Let's test it out...

[Giraffe]

Originally Posted by Vote Counting Robot

Start Friday (9): Wombat99 (5), crys (7), Giraffe (8)[16], Suburban Plankton (9), Scathach (10), guiri (11), Inner Stickler (18), Dizzymrslizzy (26), LightFoot (40), gnarlycharlie (42)
Friday (1): Septimus (14)
End Boy (1): peekercpa (34)
Illuminati (1): Flying Squid with Goggles (15)
Start Monday (1): DaphneBlack (21)
Either And/or Both And/or Neither (1): EnderBoy (13)
To Start The Game Whenever (1): Colby11 (31)
Candy For Giraffe (1): Giraffe (45)
Giraffe (0): Giraffe (32)[45]

If you want, you can paste this as well:

Voting History:
post #1: SisterCoyote voted
post #5: Wombat99 voted Start Friday
post #7: crys voted Start Friday
post #8: Giraffe voted Start Friday
post #9: Suburban Plankton voted Start Friday
post #10: Scathach voted Start Friday
post #11: guiri voted Start Friday
post #13: EnderBoy voted Either And/or Both And/or Neither
post #14: Septimus voted Friday
post #15: Flying Squid with Goggles voted Illuminati
post #16: Giraffe illegally voted Giraffe
post #16: Giraffe unvoted Giraffe
post #18: Inner Stickler voted Start Friday
post #21: DaphneBlack voted Start Monday
post #26: Dizzymrslizzy voted Start Friday
post #31: Colby11 voted To Start The Game Whenever
post #32: Giraffe voted Giraffe
post #34: peekercpa voted End Boy
post #39: Suburban Plankton illegally voted Peeker
post #40: LightFoot voted Start Friday
post #42: gnarlycharlie voted Start Friday
post #42: gnarlycharlie illegally voted Suburban Plankton
post #45: Giraffe unvoted All
post #45: Giraffe voted Candy For Giraffe

[gnarlycharlie]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

I think you missed the little subtle twist in the comment

it wasn't subtle. i was just blind.

[peekercpa]

i hope everyone has a wonderful thanksgiving (even those folks that don't necessarily celebrate this tradition).

if you are traveling be safe. there will be a lot of crazies on the road (i plan on burning up i-10 between s.a. and houston).

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Now you need to have the vote counting robot be able to take into account player claims, actual mod claims, and detective claims to color code the players voting Am I asking for too much as a newbie

No seriously, you did a great job, and I'm just busting your chops! Such a helpful tool and better than doing it by hand all of the time like I had been doing! Thanks!

[SisterCoyote]

At this point, Friday or "whichever" combined are winning; however, I will be AFK for pretty much the rest of toDay. Will try to have Day One up by noon pacific on Friday but can't promise anything; I never know what my family is going to spring on me at the last minute.