Mafia Through the Looking Glass: Night One

[SisterCoyote]

'I declare it's marked out just like a large chessboard!' Alice said at last. 'There ought to be some men moving about somewhere—and so there are!' She added in a tone of delight, and her heart began to beat quick with excitement as she went on. 'It's a great huge game of chess that's being played—all over the world—if this IS the world at all, you know. Oh, what fun it is! How I WISH I was one of them! I wouldn't mind being a Pawn, if only I might join—though of course I should LIKE to be a Queen, best.'

She glanced rather shyly at the real Queen as she said this, but her companion only smiled pleasantly, and said, 'That's easily managed. You can be the White Queen's Pawn, if you like, as Lily's too young to play; and you're in the Second Square to begin with: when you get to the Eighth Square you'll be a Queen—' Just at this moment, somehow or other, they began to run.

Alice never could quite make out, in thinking it over afterwards, how it was that they began: all she remembers is, that they were running hand in hand, and the Queen went so fast that it was all she could do to keep up with her: and still the Queen kept crying 'Faster! Faster!' but Alice felt she COULD NOT go faster, though she had not breath left to say so.

Of course, the problem with going fast, fast, so fast, even when you're nearly standing still, is the wall you didn't see coming.

DizzyMrsLizzy, The White Queen, Town Shapeshifter has been lynched.

Night One begins Now. It will end on Sunday, December 2 at Noon Pacific.

Night Actions should be to the mod no later than 11 a.m. Pacific on December 2nd.

[Giraffe]

Sorry, Dizzy.

[guiri]

Meh. Farewell Dizzy.

[gnarlycharlie]

someone's not going to be happy when she finds herself lynched.

can i vote for Septimus now? please?

[crys]

You should have let me be a ghost

[crys]

What the heck is a shapeshifter?

[SisterCoyote]

A Reminder from your Friendly Neighborhood Mod:

Originally Posted by SisterCoyote

• Nights are fluff only, with following caveats:
  • Players may claim a role, and subsequent discussion of that claim will be allowed.
  • Players may claim a result of their own actions, and subsequent discussion of that claim will be allowed.
• A list requires more than two things, which would be news to the scientists I work with.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I shall edit this out seeing as it is non-fluff.

But I will have something less fluffy to say in the morning, provided I live that long.

[gnarlycharlie]

i guess i'll see you all in the morning. hope every townie wakes up.

[EnderBoy]

Originally Posted by crys

What the heck is a shapeshifter?

Quoted for quotiness.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Can I opine what a shapeshifter is, or is that non-fluffy?

[Giraffe]

FYI, I figured out why guiri's votes weren't being counted by the robot: they were manually colored but didn't have bold tags on each line, i.e.


[b][color=red]unvote[/color]
[color=blue]vote person[/color][/b]


guiri, please help the mod/robot by either using the vote tags or put the bold and unbold tags on each line.

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Wow, that was a turn I didn't expect.....Sorry I wasn't around to defend myself, as I said, I had some IRL issues keeping me from being around. I would have claimed, and such, and I tried to breadcrumb early toDay, but I guess it wasn't apparent enough. Good luck townies...

[SisterCoyote]

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Can I opine what a shapeshifter is, or is that non-fluffy?

After careful consideration, a Death Flip is a Role Reveal and as such is valid for discussion under the terms of the Night Rules.

[Dizzymrslizzy]

May I have some spoils please Dear Sister?

[Rabid Renaissance]

Sheesh. Not sure I would have joined the dizzy wagon even if I hadn't been driving to the DMV. Not that my late switch to Lightfoot was my proudest moment either. Bon voyage Dizzy.

[Rabid Renaissance]

Sorry was ignorant of any Night stategy rules if I have violated them.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally Posted by SisterCoyote

After careful consideration, a Death Flip is a Role Reveal and as such is valid for discussion under the terms of the Night Rules.

Shapeshifter sounds an awful lot like a townie power role backup.

Given the chess motif, and given a pawn can promote to any number of things, such as a queen or a rook, a shapeshifter sounds an awful lot like a chess piece that can change shapes, which would be a backup.

Since she's revealed as town, and as shapeshifter, that makes it highly unlikely that she is the mafia Godfather. Such a specific reveal tells us she was legitimately townie.

The role of a shapeshifter only makes sense as a town backup. Shifting shape in another sense, such as appearing guilty upon scan, is more of a classic Miller type role and there are no Millers in this game as per the rules.

[Rabid Renaissance]

Godfathers only investigate as town. They always flip as scum. At least in any games I have played.

[Flying Squid with Goggles]

Sorry Dizzy.

I'm going to have to go find that sweater with the extra sleeve for my hopes and dreams to seek some solace.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally Posted by Rabid Renaissance

Godfathers only investigate as town. They always flip as scum. At least in any games I have played.

I've been in a few recent games where people didn't flip correctly until later.

That's another board though.

[peekercpa]

wow, a lot of busy there at the end of the day. ragnorak D4 kind of half ass revisited.

[Chucara]

Wow.. That went down fast...

[Polluxo]

Picked the wrong day to accidentally take a nap mid-day, apparently.



This sucks.

[peekercpa]

ok, folks let's get our big boy pants on.

i'm claiming.

You are the Bandersnatch.

‘But aren’t you going to run and help her?’ Alice asked, very much surprised at his taking it so quietly.

‘No use, no use!’ said the King. ‘She runs so fearfully quick. You might as well try to catch a Bandersnatch! But I’ll make a memorandum about her, if you like–She’s a dear good creature,’ he repeated softly to himself, as he opened his memorandum-book. ‘Do you spell “creature” with a double “e”?’

You are the Town Optional but Remorseful Vig.

Starting Night One, each Night you may choose to send the moderator the name of one person you wish to kill. If that person is Town, you will kill yourself. If that person is third-party, you lose all power and become Vanilla Town.

Town wins when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

now why should i claim?

first, i am N1 fodder like the poor souls that charge up seminary ridge under picket so my inclination is to fire away.

second, i'd like some input on who to whack. i have my preferences but i think some additional input after that fucking fiasco at day end has a chance to settle.

third, i want to be able to publish who my intent to whack is before end of Night. if i catch a scum and it goes elsewhere then they are kaput and we gain knowledge.

fourth, i absolutely hate Nights with no strategy. from the rules i can claim and discussion about said claim can be held with no sanctions.

fifth, want to give town a head's up that there are third parties. apparantly i can't kill them. if they are survivor types then no biggie but if they are win stealers we better get on that set aggressively.

sixth, it took clarification from the mog that if i killed a scum that i continue to live. kind of odd how that was left out originally.

seventh, ask farking opal.

i'm sure there will be more but for now that should get the ball rolling.

[peekercpa]

neta: i sure as fuck hope i am on the right durn board. heh heh.

[guiri]

Peeker:
1. not sure why you claimed with a claimed mason out there
2. With your track record, I'd suggest keeping it in your pocket toNight. Unless you want to freak someone out, then sure, take a shot at Suburban
6. Well, isn't that the point of a remorseful vig?

[Polluxo]

If you want to go maximum shooting in the dark, you can try and whack Val Salva which would give us information we'd otherwise have to waste on a lynch. Otherwise I'd say just keep it in your pocket.

[Colby11]

I agree with Polluxo. Taking someone out who is potentially dead is dead useful.

I see why Peeks is wanting to reveal who he is targeting, because he can clear someone (or kill them). I just hope there is no redirector/roleblocker

[Colby11]

(PS- apologies for not leaving a vote. Thought I had voted in this game, apparently that was not the case)

[crys]

Originally Posted by Colby11

(PS- apologies for not leaving a vote. Thought I had voted in this game, apparently that was not the case)

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[Askthepizzaguy]

A vigilante that kills himself on a miss can be as useless as a one-shot vig that hits a townie.

When you have a single ball in your musket, it's best to hold your fire until there's a clear shot.

Give our other roles time to locate someone who is a more certain hit, or at least wait until your odds are better.

Meanwhile, we've now overloaded our doctor and watcher. Best cover the claimants as best we can.

[Chucara]

I also think you should wait, odds are we will loose two townies if you use it now.

[peekercpa]

Originally Posted by guiri

Peeker:
1. not sure why you claimed with a claimed mason out there
2. With your track record, I'd suggest keeping it in your pocket toNight. Unless you want to freak someone out, then sure, take a shot at Suburban
6. Well, isn't that the point of a remorseful vig?

c'mon guiri my shelf life is about the same as shrimp at the dock in july with no ice.

my track record sucks as vig. i mean i swatted a couple in pizza's game but shit that about it. that's why i kind of wanted some input. i can go blazing into the crowd and cost us two townies. but i would kind of like to nail a scum. and that's why i wonder what the concensus is. i will publish who i intend to kill early enough that if scum have a redirector or rb we will know. that's some meaty chili.

[peekercpa]

i'm really inclined to whack either guiri or pizza at this point.

[crys]

Im having pizza for dinner lol

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[peekercpa]

would be kind of entertaining to see if there is a flinch.

[crys]

The pizza wasn't very good this evening, stupid frozen crap cause I'm broke......no one seems to be doing anything. Pretty lonely here...........not even a [ghost]ghost[\ghost] haunting us or nothin. If I got dogpiled on like that I would def be hauntin some peeps.

[Rabid Renaissance]

My first choice of advice for you Peeker is sit tight. If you can't sit tight, target Val.

[crys]

Originally Posted by Rabid Renaissance

My first choice of advice for you Peeker is sit tight. If you can't sit tight, target Val.

I can see why people want peeker to sit tight, but if I were wearing the other shoes I would want to get rid of that one shot kill cause peeker can be so right its eerie. Other times not so much. However scum does have some options this evening that is for sure.

[Zeener Diode]

I know that Nghts are for fluff only, but I have to ask: WHAT THE EFF HAPPENED???

I leave you guys for 12 hours and when I come back I find you've cleared my suspect, chased down another player only to clear them as well, toy with lynching Lightfoot and crys before plucking a name out of the blue and running with it. I'm gonna go back and re-read DizzyMrsLizzy's posts because she was not on my list of suspects.

[Zeener Diode]

Originally Posted by peekercpa

ok, folks let's get our big boy pants on.

i'm claiming.

Wait--- can we discuss strategy at Night?

OK, nm:

Nights are fluff only, with following caveats:

Players may claim a role, and subsequent discussion of that claim will be allowed.
Players may claim a result of their own actions, and subsequent discussion of that claim will be allowed.

[EnderBoy]

Can I get clarification peek.

If you target town does it kill you AND kill the target?
If you target third party does it turn you into VT AND kill them?

Your claim doesn't make it clear.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally Posted by peekercpa

would be kind of entertaining to see if there is a flinch.

Can't speak for guiri but I've been around the block a few too many times to be scared by a vig claim. Just do me a favor- if you pick me make sure it is because you think I'm scum, not because your spam posts annoy me and we don't see eye to eye.

Also I refer you to what I said in the sturmhauke game. The caveat here is you could essentially be a one shot, which changes the game up a bit.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by peekercpa

i'm really inclined to whack either guiri or pizza at this point.

Vigging me would ruin the game for both of us, but we can point and laugh at the others from the spoiled thread...

[gnarlycharlie]

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Shapeshifter sounds an awful lot like a townie power role backup.

Given the chess motif, and given a pawn can promote to any number of things, such as a queen or a rook, a shapeshifter sounds an awful lot like a chess piece that can change shapes, which would be a backup.

Since she's revealed as town, and as shapeshifter, that makes it highly unlikely that she is the mafia Godfather. Such a specific reveal tells us she was legitimately townie.

The role of a shapeshifter only makes sense as a town backup. Shifting shape in another sense, such as appearing guilty upon scan, is more of a classic Miller type role and there are no Millers in this game as per the rules.

she could also have had a similar role to mine in the Wonderland game. i was a jack of all trades who could use the powers of dead players once.

[Val Salva]

Hey All,

I'm here. MY apologies to all & especially the Mod for missing the week & especially EOD.

It has been a very busy and somewhat crazy week. (Full moon - patients get a little wacky

I have been reading here & there in an attempt to keep up, but when I tried to put together a coherent post to relay my thoughts, it just wasn't happening.

I have more patients to see today, but I will read and post some thoughts tonight.

One thing to address now:

Peeker, I'm Town. Don't Vig shoot me unless you don't want to play anymore

[Zeener Diode]

Originally Posted by gnarlycharlie

she could also have had a similar role to mine in the Wonderland game. i was a jack of all trades who could use the powers of dead players once.

How would that differ (or resemble) an Inventor? ISTR our own SisterMod held such a role in a past game (and I think she was whacked N1).

[Zeener Diode]

Originally Posted by Val Salva

Peeker, I'm Town. Don't Vig shoot me unless you don't want to play anymore

Good to see you're still around, Val. We hope to see more of you come Dawn.

Regarding peeker:

peeker's got a gun
peeker's got a gun
Long Night's just begun
Everybody is on the run

peek, don't take this the wrong way but right now I'm picturing Barney Fife with a gun in one hand shaking badly, and trying to reach into his breast pocket for his bullet to load.

[LightFoot]

ATPG- for the record
the " pants comment" was made after 1:30
am

as you were...................................