Greek History Mafia D1

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Double A

pizza hold me why are all these people so serious on day 1

a complete lack of fucks

You'd originally posted "At least one of the Dragonballs." and not "a complete lack of fucks", not sure why the edit isn't reflected.

[SisterCoyote]

Originally Posted by Double A

pizza hold me why are all these people so serious on day 1

Don't ask pizza. He can't help you any more than the rest of us can.

[Zeener Diode]

Originally Posted by lulz

unvote: lightfoot

vote:zeener diode

This guy's scum.
1. I naked voted Zeener as I always do in all games.

2. Then three completely gross votes accumulate. {guiri, lightfoot, mahaloth}
One of these is scum who think I'm onto something when in reality it's just RVS. Don't know who but it's the least likely to be guiri.

3. I explain the sario vote in 123 and, here's the important part...PLACE IN BOLD AND GIANT TEXT THAT I'M VLA until mondy.

4. Zeener then places a vote on me in 141 saying that I should explain the Sario vote. What? You mean do the thing I already did in 123? Most importantly Zeener then proceeds to continue posting only barely relevant things, or not relevant things...

You're "VLA until mondy"... what does this mean?

As I stated, I disliked the votes placed on you by both Maha and Dizzy and I explained why I was voting for you. You haven't clarified your suspicions of Sario to my satisfaction, so my vote remains. Whether or not Scum is on board with this bandwagon isn't important to me: I haven't received enough information about other players to make me want to switch my vote, and right now you are the one being a distraction to Town, which is good enough for a Day 1 vote for me.

143,164 {which is also rolefishing}, 171, 178

I asked Pizza if he was a Miller. I've been a Miller in another game, and I was lynched despite being Town. Had he said yes, it would be more information to work with.

Notice how activity seems to have completely dropped off as well. It's like this game day has stalled all of a sudden. Scum came to zeener's aid but then just vote parked.

"Scum came to zeener's aid but then just vote parked." I don't understand this. My vote is the last vote on you. What "scum" came to my aid?

It's not hard to see my wagon is a bad wagon, as it was the first time around.

Scum is...
Zeener
one of {guiri, lightfoot, mahaloth}
ATPG is pinging for me. I can only say I know he's capable of generating a good discussion if he wants to. I don't know if it's because he doesn't feel like it, or this isn't the time or place.

Double A is never getting lynched without an investigation guilty. I will chainsaw defend him all day every day. That means he's town.

Every wagon Day 1 is hardly a good wagon. In most cases, it's a mislynch. I have misgivings that your may well be a mislynch. But the way you're going about doesn't make me feel you can be trusted to help us find Scum.

[Zeener Diode]

Originally Posted by guiri

You'd originally posted "At least one of the Dragonballs." and not "a complete lack of fucks", not sure why the edit isn't reflected.

You can perform "quick edits" without leaving a trace on this board. If you caught an edit, I'm interested in hearing why (from Double A) it occurred.

[idrinkthere4iam]

Originally Posted by Zeener Diode

Which is exactly what we should be doing, instead of letting old grudges get in the way of evaluating a player's alignment.

Something about this post doesn't sit well with me. Zeener knows lulz is the vote leader at this moment. His vote is also on lulz. Yet he tells others to not vote based on grudges. He admits his vote is not grudge based, as he was not in the pervious game with lulz, which is a fact. This just smells to me. He is jumping on a wagon when he disagrees with everyone one it. And then in the event lulz is Town an point at everyone and say "well they all voted based on a grudge, I had a real reason." I don't like it.

[idrinkthere4iam]

Originally Posted by Zeener Diode

You're "VLA until mondy"... what does this mean?

As I stated, I disliked the votes placed on you by both Maha and Dizzy and I explained why I was voting for you. You haven't clarified your suspicions of Sario to my satisfaction, so my vote remains. Whether or not Scum is on board with this bandwagon isn't important to me: I haven't received enough information about other players to make me want to switch my vote, and right now you are the one being a distraction to Town, which is good enough for a Day 1 vote for me.

Should matter to you where Scum are placing their votes. Why would you want to vote with them? Also, I'd argue that pizza has been more distracting to both town and scum than anyone in this game. Lulz has hardly done anything distracting in my opinion. He posted a naked vote. Then a random rant about horses. So? There's been a few others posting fluff things. Want an example?

Originally Posted by Zeener Diode

If this were a field of presidential hopefuls, Pizza would be Donald Trump.

Hey I did it too so don't worry about that. But I'm not accusing others of being distracting.

[Double A]

Originally Posted by Zeener Diode

You can perform "quick edits" without leaving a trace on this board. If you caught an edit, I'm interested in hearing why (from Double A) it occurred.

Cause the edit was funnier.

[lulz]

Originally Posted by Zeener Diode

You're "VLA until mondy"... what does this mean?

As I stated, I disliked the votes placed on you by both Maha and Dizzy and I explained why I was voting for you. You haven't clarified your suspicions of Sario to my satisfaction, so my vote remains. Whether or not Scum is on board with this bandwagon isn't important to me: I haven't received enough information about other players to make me want to switch my vote, and right now you are the one being a distraction to Town, which is good enough for a Day 1 vote for me.



I asked Pizza if he was a Miller. I've been a Miller in another game, and I was lynched despite being Town. Had he said yes, it would be more information to work with.



"Scum came to zeener's aid but then just vote parked." I don't understand this. My vote is the last vote on you. What "scum" came to my aid?

Every wagon Day 1 is hardly a good wagon. In most cases, it's a mislynch. I have misgivings that your may well be a mislynch. But the way you're going about doesn't make me feel you can be trusted to help us find Scum.

1. Role fishing is role fishing.
2. Voting with suspicious votes is a scum trait regardless of how you try to justify it.
3. I find it highly unlikely you don't know what "V/LA" is but in the off-chance you don't...
V/LA is vacation/limited access. Somebody review Zeener's past games to see if he's encountered V/LA before. If he has he'll be caught red-handed.
4. "Until my satisfaction"=pre-emptively justifying vote parking. Especially glaring since the explaination has already been given and at this point highlighted even.

zeener's scum you guys. Since I don't know when the deadline is I'll just claim now that I'm Archimedes, the great scientist.

[Double A]

vote parking is pretty gross

unvote: Idrinkthere4iam
vote: Zeener Deener

Originally Posted by lulz

zeener's scum you guys. Since I don't know when the deadline is I'll just claim now that I'm Archimedes, the great scientist.

Role claims mean bugger all when everyone probably has a cover role (unless that's not normal here but it's pretty ubiquitous for me) and also you don't tell us your ability but whatever.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by lulz

1. Role fishing is role fishing.
2. Voting with suspicious votes is a scum trait regardless of how you try to justify it.
3. I find it highly unlikely you don't know what "V/LA" is but in the off-chance you don't...
V/LA is vacation/limited access. Somebody review Zeener's past games to see if he's encountered V/LA before. If he has he'll be caught red-handed.
4. "Until my satisfaction"=pre-emptively justifying vote parking. Especially glaring since the explaination has already been given and at this point highlighted even.

zeener's scum you guys. Since I don't know when the deadline is I'll just claim now that I'm Archimedes, the great scientist.

1. not if it is in response to another blatant statement
2.You have deemed them suspicious- I don't it.
3.I had no bloody clue what it meant either - not a familiar term

Day ends in about 9.75 hours by my calculations

[LightFoot]

Note- if I read it right we have a tie- = no lynch
and one vote away from a 3 way tie


As I observed earlier - this could be a Scum ploy and the Zeener voters are changing the field

Originally Posted by Vote Counting Robot

Lulz (4): guiri (41)[111], LightFoot (58), Mahaloth (65), Dizzymrslizzy (133), Zeener Diode (141)
Double A (3): Archangel (37), Zeener Diode (52)[53], Scáthach (151), guiri (197)
Askthepizzaguy (2): SisterCoyote (25)[49], BillMc (34), SisterCoyote (99)
Zeener (2): Meeko (63), idrinkthere4iam (205)
Scathach (1): Askthepizzaguy (75)[76], Askthepizzaguy (94)
Zeener Deener (1): Double A (209)
Diode (1): lulz (180)

I spoilered the 0's

[Visorslash]

@ archangel

this is a closed setup, I can't answer that question.

[Dizzymrslizzy]

I suspected what V/LA meant but have never encountered it on any message board I've ever been on let alone here

[idrinkthere4iam]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Note- if I read it right we have a tie- = no lynch
and one vote away from a 3 way tie


As I observed earlier - this could be a Scum ploy and the Zeener voters are changing the field

I spoilered the 0's

Doesn't that read as lulz in the lead with 4 votes? Or did I miss something...?

[idrinkthere4iam]

Oh, my bad. Robot doesn't catch the different names. Ignore my last post. 4-4 lulz and Zeener.

[Double A]

I've seen V/LA a few times but I have not once remembered what it stood for until someone reminded me. WIFOM, FOS, and OMGUS are the only acronyms that belong in mafia.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm not lynching either lulz or Double A, the "cases" on both are ridiculous.

I want to play the game but frankly, if it comes down to me or them, I'm not saving myself. That's how bad this looks from where I sit.

How about we lynch some guilty people instead of innocent people, for a change of pace.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Unless Zeener moves his vote that's my default to not lynch Double A or lulz.

I have no passion for Zeener one way or the other but it's better than two town reads. Zeener moves his vote to someone else I might forget him as an option.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'd like Scathach votes if anyone wants to assist. But hey, I'm not going to complain if I have to help someone else instead.

[Visorslash]

Originally Posted by Vote Counting Robot

Lulz (4): guiri (41)[111], LightFoot (58), Mahaloth (65), Dizzymrslizzy (133), Zeener Diode (141)
Double A (3): Archangel (37), Zeener Diode (52)[53], Scáthach (151), guiri (197)
Askthepizzaguy (2): SisterCoyote (25)[49], BillMc (34), SisterCoyote (99)
Zeener (4): Meeko (63), idrinkthere4iam (205), Double A (209), lulz (180)
Scathach (1): Askthepizzaguy (75)[76], Askthepizzaguy (94)

Tally

48 mins

[Visorslash]

heading out - should be back in time for eod easily though

night will end 48 hours after day ends (8pm AEST 3rd of August) or whenever I have all orders. If you wish to take no action please tell me.

just fyi

[guiri]

I'm here. I have a null read on lulz, a scum lean on Double A for his lie, and nothing much on Zeener. You're fun to watch. Give me a townie reason why Double A would lie and squirm under a little pressure from Scathach? Voting Scathach is not compatible with my suspicion of Double A.

[guiri]

Now, I see m vote from Sooh, Sario or Drinkie. Drinkie was absent, but Sooh and Sario did some player analysis but still didn't vote (right?), holding back to see which way the wind blows?

[guiri]

Oh, it's a tie, OK, and Drinkie did vote.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh Guiri I think it's probably too late, but I will say you can't read Double A's alignment one way or the other from his behavior today. It's all classic Double A behavior.

You guys just don't know him. And you won't if you lynch him.

He's not nervous.

I wouldn't say he gets nervous as scum, I'm just saying I get the town vibe.

[Sooh]

At this point I don't feel like I have a strong enough opinion on anyone to warrant a vote. I was hoping someone would come in and make a convincing case, but I haven't seen anything. Not sure I want to vote anywhere today.

[guiri]

So, a tied vote means NO LYNCH, we will learn nothing and give the scum an extra kill. I'd move to avoid that.

Sooh, didn't you make your own case earlier, were none of those pings true? All you need is to find one player slightly less likely to be town than the rest.

[Askthepizzaguy]

That's going to bite you in the butt later on, even though I feel like your statement and your intentions are coming from a pure place.

For the sake of analysis, please vote Scathach with me.

You can refuse and that will also be useful for analysis.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I hate to say this because it goes against a lot of what I stand for in this kind of game, but...

I think we should deliberately no lynch today.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Unless someone decides I'm a brilliant scum hunter in the next 10 minutes, I'm going to move to no lynch.

Anyone can stop me by moving their vote in any direction that breaks the tie.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It looks like I won't need to move my vote to do that.

I want to do something significant today and I don't know if doing nothing or doing something here is better.

My villagers are voting for Zeener and I've got nothing on him.

It's the better choice but I'd rather lynch someone I was more sure of.

Forced between bad options I think.

[guiri]

I'd argue that no lynch puts us back to N0; gives scum an advantage, and makes D2 a repeat of D1 with one or more fewer players.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally Posted by guiri

I'd argue that no lynch puts us back to N0; gives scum an advantage, and makes D2 a repeat of D1 with one or more fewer players.

If there are two villagers hanging and neither of them hangs, that's one more person the scums have to murder themselves.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Everyone in the game has a tiebreaking vote right now.

Do as you will. I think the odds are very good you have two villagers hanging, but show me otherwise and that's instant villager points for you.

[BillMc]

ties are bad and we learn nothing

[guiri]

You are underestimating the information we gain even from a mislynch.




For pontificating and not acknowledging Double A's Eason for voting sario

[guiri]

FFS!

[Askthepizzaguy]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well.....

We learned that.

[Askthepizzaguy]

BillMc's vote move was my trigger. I wasn't planning on moving until I saw his vote.

[Visorslash]

Day over. Tallying

[BillMc]

and you behaved exactly as I thought....when the tie was split, you moved to save lulz

[Askthepizzaguy]

I said I'd be voting to defend my village. No surprises there.

I'd call your lurking at deadline scummy, but you have that Batman signal avatar so I guess you must be clean.

[Visorslash]

Originally Posted by Vote Counting Robot

Lulz (5): guiri (41)[111], LightFoot (58), Mahaloth (65), Dizzymrslizzy (133), Zeener Diode (141), BillMc (235)
Zeener (4): Meeko (63), idrinkthere4iam (205), guiri (236), Askthepizzaguy (238)
Double A (2): Archangel (37), Zeener Diode (52)[53], Scáthach (151), guiri (197)[236]
Zeener Deener (1): Double A (209)
Askthepizzaguy (1): SisterCoyote (25)[49], BillMc (34)[235], SisterCoyote (99)
Diode (1): lulz (180)

according to this tally it is 6 zeener
5 lulz
2 aa
1 atpg

correct?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well, we don't have a Zeener Deener in the game, so it could technically still be a tie.

:P

[Double A]

That's a good robot.

Originally Posted by guiri

I'm here. I have a null read on lulz, a scum lean on Double A for his lie, and nothing much on Zeener. You're fun to watch. Give me a townie reason why Double A would lie and squirm under a little pressure from Scathach? Voting Scathach is not compatible with my suspicion of Double A.

Wait when did I lie?

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

It's all classic Double A behavior.

Originally Posted by guiri

You are underestimating the information we gain even from a mislynch.




For pontificating and not acknowledging Double A's Eason for voting sario

Reasonably sure I never voted for Sario.

[Zeener Diode]

nm

Posted in wrong thread.

[Double A]

Only scum post in the wrong thread.