Greek History Mafia N1

[Visorslash]

The assembly rounded up Ajax, hero of Greece and exiled him. Ajax, refusing to live under the shame, fell on his sword.

Zeener Diode was Ajax - 1 Shot BP Town.

[Visorslash]

48 hours, get your orders in.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yeah.

So, I think we definitely lynch Scathach tomorrow.

[BillMc]

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I said I'd be voting to defend my village. No surprises there.

I guess Zeener wasn't in your village.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally Posted by BillMc

I guess Zeener wasn't in your village.

My suggestion was to not lynch here. I moved because you broke the tie against someone I was town-reading.

My vote was to re-establish the tie. Guiri ninja'ed me on that.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I could believe you think I'm scummy for it.

You'd be wrong, though.

[guiri]

BP is bulletproof?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Straightforward assumption I'd expect.

[Visorslash]

no, British Petroleum, a secret role in the game that seeks to obtain economical dominance in the Aegean.

Just bulletproof

[Askthepizzaguy]

The Aegean's all dried up.

Besides, who needs oil when you can have all this Greece?

*runs fingers through his hair*

I bet you can run a fleet of monster trucks on this.

[Sooh]

Yeah, so, this new thread for new phase thing is new to me. didn't find this until now.

[Sooh]

Also I was about to say at EOD that I have far too many suspects right now, or just people who seem to not be doing much. I didn't have a clear one among the three lynch candidates that I wanted to go for. It seems my analysis has failed to give me clear answers so far.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Sooh

Yeah, so, this new thread for new phase thing is new to me. didn't find this until now.

You will find it makes things easier to keep track of
( and it works better for the vote count robot)

[Double A]

It's still really really weird.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Double A

It's still really really weird.

when I play in places where it doesn't happen- I am uncomfortable- so I guess we are even there

[Sooh]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

You will find it makes things easier to keep track of
( and it works better for the vote count robot)

Yeah, I can see that. I've seen the setup before too, I just didn't realize

[Sooh]

How much night talk do you guys usually do? When we have night talk on the board where I come from there's a lot of analysis of D1 and the votes and the lynch. I don't know what you usually do here?

[Double A]

Talk shit about johnhughthom.

[Archangel]

Well, that was a strange end of day.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Double A

Wait when did I lie?

Scathach asked why you only voted Drinkie for non-participation when she too had been missing, your defence was that she had been participating since she posted on the first page of the thread. Her post came after your vote so that cannot possibly have been the reason you didn't vote or mention her so it's clear that you went back and invented a reason in response to the pressure, and have been caught telling a lie.

Originally Posted by Double A

Reasonably sure I never voted for Sario.

Yeah, my bad, it was Lulz. Zeener claimed Lulz did not respond to Sario's question in #123 when in fact he gave reasons for his votes in #124 but Zeener never acknowledged this, even though he posted afterwards.

[Sooh]

Zeener did say he wasn't satisfied with lulz's explanation in post 203. I don't know if this is intentionally misrepping or if you really didn't notice/remember.

[Sario]

Sorry I missed EOD, I had a sudden attack of Real Life. I was planning on reviewing cases, but I didn't get a chance.

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Ditto there are lot of players to think about tonight. Ugh

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Sooh

Zeener did say he wasn't satisfied with lulz's explanation in post 203. I don't know if this is intentionally misrepping or if you really didn't notice/remember.

Lemme see, we can argue over words, but the actions speak for themselves. You try to summarise all this in a single sentence when the deadline is about to arrive and we're likely to no-lynch:

41 I voted Lulz for the naked vote and no further commentary.
56 Sario commented that it was highly suspicious.
79 I replied that highly suspicious play, on D1, deserves a vote and wondered why Sario hadn't.
105 Lulz naked voted Sario.
120 Lulz posts some gifs to say Sario is scum.
121 Lulz claims Sario's frustration is fake
123 Sario asks why Lulz voted her
124 Lulz refers to my point about Sario finding something highly suspicious but not voting
125 Sooh cross-posts, wants an explanation for Lulz' vote on Sario
126 Sooh sees Lulz' post, has got answer
>>>>>141 Zeener quotes Sooh's 125, ignoring Lulz' 124 and Sooh's 126, as if Lulz has yet to explain his vote, and votes lulz using the lack of explanation as the reason<<<<<
180 Lulz votes Zeener stating that he'd already explained his vote
181 Sooh seems to have forgotten her 126 and says she can't find where Lulz explained his vote
182 Lulz quotes the relevant bit
183 Sooh clarifies
184 Lulz confirms
203 Zeener seems to ignore his previous claim that Lulz never explained his vote and now claims that he hasn't explained it "to his satisfaction", thus undermining his original reason for voting while keeping his vote for an entirely new, however related, reason - quite unreasonable too, especially for a D1 vote which was later remove

[Askthepizzaguy]

Sario = F?

[Meeko]

I just can't get my head around how I can feel so lost, and it's only night one.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Visorslash

no, British Petroleum, a secret role in the game that seeks to obtain economical dominance in the Aegean.

I'd like to have that ability, it sounds like a real gas.

[Sario]

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Sario = F?

Sario = M

[Visorslash]

Another message.

I guess he won't be zeen er heard from again!

[Askthepizzaguy]

That's exactly the sort of stuff I would write, too.

Someone is trying to pin that anonymous message shit on me. I swear to Jebus.

[Sooh]

Originally Posted by guiri

Lemme see, we can argue over words, but the actions speak for themselves. You try to summarise all this in a single sentence when the deadline is about to arrive and we're likely to no-lynch:

41 I voted Lulz for the naked vote and no further commentary.
56 Sario commented that it was highly suspicious.
79 I replied that highly suspicious play, on D1, deserves a vote and wondered why Sario hadn't.
105 Lulz naked voted Sario.
120 Lulz posts some gifs to say Sario is scum.
121 Lulz claims Sario's frustration is fake
123 Sario asks why Lulz voted her
124 Lulz refers to my point about Sario finding something highly suspicious but not voting
125 Sooh cross-posts, wants an explanation for Lulz' vote on Sario
126 Sooh sees Lulz' post, has got answer
>>>>>141 Zeener quotes Sooh's 125, ignoring Lulz' 124 and Sooh's 126, as if Lulz has yet to explain his vote, and votes lulz using the lack of explanation as the reason<<<<<
180 Lulz votes Zeener stating that he'd already explained his vote
181 Sooh seems to have forgotten her 126 and says she can't find where Lulz explained his vote
182 Lulz quotes the relevant bit
183 Sooh clarifies
184 Lulz confirms
203 Zeener seems to ignore his previous claim that Lulz never explained his vote and now claims that he hasn't explained it "to his satisfaction", thus undermining his original reason for voting while keeping his vote for an entirely new, however related, reason - quite unreasonable too, especially for a D1 vote which was later remove

Bold part: No, I didn't forget, I just missed the part where he actually explained it. That one sentence about agreeing with you somehow slipped my mind.

Thank you for explaining what you saw that made you vote though. That's very helpful.

[LightFoot]

there was a time ( my history) when Night was fluff only- and some games many hesitate to say much at Night incase Scum take it as a ' clue' to whom they will NK.

for me- If I don't make it to Morning I want to be clear on my leans.

the tie/vote shennanigans from yesterday leads me to many
lulz,double A, and to some degree Pizza all look bad in the exchange

even without mentioning the way lulz picks and chooses what to resond to- and what seemed like the three of them championing each other ( dumb for a scum- but not unheard of)



Bill on the other foot looks Town

I had a strong town lean on Guiri untill the last vote change ( but that in itsself is not a clincher)-He chose to break the tie and could very well have chosen blindly (ie with no knowledge of alignment)


Sis C did not feel the need ( or didn't have the time) to get involved in the 3 part showdown- which gives me a Null as it is not out of character for the player

[Double A]

Originally Posted by guiri

Scathach asked why you only voted Drinkie for non-participation when she too had been missing, your defence was that she had been participating since she posted on the first page of the thread. Her post came after your vote so that cannot possibly have been the reason you didn't vote or mention her so it's clear that you went back and invented a reason in response to the pressure, and have been caught telling a lie.

I just looked back at my vote on Drinky.

Originally Posted by Double A

Anyway, vote: idrinkthere4iam for not posting at all, which is clearly a sign of evilosity. And when they show up saying they were "drinking," you'll know who called it.

These are not the words someone uses when conducting a serious vote.

[Double A]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

the tie/vote shennanigans from yesterday leads me to many
lulz,double A, and to some degree Pizza all look bad in the exchange

even without mentioning the way lulz picks and chooses what to resond to- and what seemed like the three of them championing each other ( dumb for a scum- but not unheard of)

God would we be playing bad if we were all scumbuddies. Lulz and/or Pizza might be, but I'd be fairly surprised if more than one of us were scum. I'd be extremely surprised if more than two of us were scum because I definitely read my role PM right.

Pizza is reading like Pizza and Lulz is I don't even know. I'm not gonna try before the nightkill shows up, really.

I had a strong town lean on Guiri untill the last vote change ( but that in itsself is not a clincher)-He chose to break the tie and could very well have chosen blindly (ie with no knowledge of alignment)

Heaps of analysis like that doesn't really indicate alignment one way or the other to me. He's pressing stuff, which is usually a good sign, but he's also overanalyzing my horseshit and sorta by-the-book. That can indicate he's just going through the motions of being a townie analyzer person.

good job pizza you made me excessively paranoid of people who analyze everything

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Double A

God would we be playing bad if we were all scumbuddies. Lulz and/or Pizza might be, but I'd be fairly surprised if more than one of us were scum. I'd be extremely surprised if more than two of us were scum because I definitely read my role PM right.

Like or don't it happened- as I see it

Pizza is reading like Pizza and Lulz is I don't even know. I'm not gonna try before the nightkill shows up, really.

Heaps of analysis like that doesn't really indicate alignment one way or the other to me. He's pressing stuff, which is usually a good sign, but he's also overanalyzing my horseshit and sorta by-the-book. That can indicate he's just going through the motions of being a townie analyzer person.

that is what he does

good job pizza you made me excessively paranoid of people who analyze everything

damned if you do damned if you don't- analyzing and sharing thought processes is how you need to interact in this game

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Yeah.

So, I think we definitely lynch Scathach tomorrow.

Because>?

[Mahaloth]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Because>?

Because greater than ?

Still, it is valid. Why are we supposed to kill scathach?

[Double A]

Because Pizza said so and we're playing the best game of Lemmings ever.

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Like or don't it happened- as I see it that is what he does

Yeah, and there's really nothing I can say to make any impact here because Pizza is Pizza and WIFOMs are WIFOMs. Doesn't change the fact that I think he'd bus the hell out of me if we were both mafia, though, so take that for whatever it's worth.

damned if you do damned if you don't- analyzing and sharing thought processes is how you need to interact in this game

not that it was a joke or anything

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Double A

not that it was a joke or anything

It could have been serious- I have seen players that analyze and share lynched for it- and players that did not share their thoughts lynched for it- I don't know your play style

[Double A]

The nocaps was a joke. It is always a joke. It's never not a joke.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Double A

The nocaps was a joke. It is always a joke. It's never not a joke.

That may be a personal rule for you but I will forget it- so I will miss understand every time

[lulz]

I have announcements that everyone has been waiting for but it's not great news...

I'm am not making much progress with my final ninja for my ninja Team. The last unit I want to be a spellcaster but ninjas are terrible spellcasters. Specifically I want my ninja to have access to Raise 2 since ninjas are so squishy. But even with my best efforts my spellcaster ninja will be mediocre at best. I've finally come to a pretty good idea on what I'm gonna do though...

So that's the update.

On to less important matters

@Double A
The Org is going to have a new mafia game. You're on the invite list so I figured I'd do just that.

@Bill MC
Why did you vote me over zeener?

@Sooh
Look carefully at this specific section of lightfoot's post...

Originally Posted by LightFoot

even without mentioning the way lulz picks and chooses what to resond to-

Lightfoot should know by now that I'm on V/LA and thus have no choice but to skim and be selective about what I respond to. My question to you is what specifically should I be responding to that I have not? And why do you think Lightfoot didn't specifically mention the things I should be responding to? (Yes I know the direct thing to do would be to ask Lightfoot but I'm already starting to scumread lightfoot). I'm asking you Sooh to see how you respond.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by lulz

I have announcements that everyone has been waiting for but it's not great news...

I'm am not making much progress with my final ninja for my ninja Team. The last unit I want to be a spellcaster but ninjas are terrible spellcasters. Specifically I want my ninja to have access to Raise 2 since ninjas are so squishy. But even with my best efforts my spellcaster ninja will be mediocre at best. I've finally come to a pretty good idea on what I'm gonna do though...

So that's the update.

another game thing elsewhere- or your imaginary friends?

On to less important matters

@Double A
The Org is going to have a new mafia game. You're on the invite list so I figured I'd do just that.

@Bill MC
Why did you vote me over zeener?

@Sooh
Look carefully at this specific section of lightfoot's post...

Lightfoot should know by now that I'm on V/LA and thus have no choice but to skim and be selective about what I respond to. My question to you is what specifically should I be responding to that I have not? And why do you think Lightfoot didn't specifically mention the things I should be responding to? (Yes I know the direct thing to do would be to ask Lightfoot but I'm already starting to scumread lightfoot). I'm asking you Sooh to see how you respond.

Vacation/limited access or not you are picking what to respond to- more specifically I responded to some of your comments and you did not deem them important enough to acknowledge- and yet you responded to other comments that occured after.
If you choose to discard my comments because you think I am Scum you will miss possible key points .Your propensity for asking specific players to respond to help you analyze is unsettling as well

[Askthepizzaguy]

I struggle to find even one thing Lightfoot has said toNight that I agree with.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by lulz

I have announcements that everyone has been waiting for but it's not great news...

I'm am not making much progress with my final ninja for my ninja Team. The last unit I want to be a spellcaster but ninjas are terrible spellcasters. Specifically I want my ninja to have access to Raise 2 since ninjas are so squishy. But even with my best efforts my spellcaster ninja will be mediocre at best. I've finally come to a pretty good idea on what I'm gonna do though...

So that's the update.

On to less important matters

.

Chemists. A team of chemists. I seem to never have enough chemists.

Dude, the day I found out how to "teach" and coincidentally use throw with my chemists... Game changer.

Near the end of my first time playing the PS1 Tactics, I ended up just using the same six.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am thinking about rallying the troops and circling the wagons.

The weirdos and misfits need to unite or whatever.

Challenge the accusations that have been made based on nothing out of the ordinary and compounded with what doesn't appear to be any imaginative solving whatsoever.

There's enough people doing it now that some of them have to be villagers, which means the mafia have the vote.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Don't mind me, I'm just a guy on the street corner ranting about how things should be and questioning your thought processes.

Wink.

[Sooh]

Originally Posted by lulz

@Sooh
Look carefully at this specific section of lightfoot's post...

Lightfoot should know by now that I'm on V/LA and thus have no choice but to skim and be selective about what I respond to. My question to you is what specifically should I be responding to that I have not? And why do you think Lightfoot didn't specifically mention the things I should be responding to? (Yes I know the direct thing to do would be to ask Lightfoot but I'm already starting to scumread lightfoot). I'm asking you Sooh to see how you respond.

I feel like you've addressed the major questions that were asked of you, even though I haven't always been 100% happy with how thorough your answers have been. I have actually been surprised how active you have seemed on V/LA. To me you've almost seemed more active and responsive then than you were before you went away.

As for Lightfoot, well, I wish he would explain his suspicions more. They might be non-specific, but there are ways to explain that too.

But hey, what do I know? I'm just the messenger.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The leader seeks to communicate his vision.

He could use a messenger.

Me? I'd rather ask questions. It's my method. That's why my name is Askthepizzaguy.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Paranoid villager: "THEY'RE HANDSHAKING THEY MUST BE SCUM"

Unlikely either of us is scum, actually.

I don't know a whole lot about anything, but I do know just from the clue she gave that Sooh is loyal to Greece.

So am I.

My military service was described as one beyond reproach, and one of valor. But that's not remotely what I was remembered for.