Greek History Mafia D4

[lulz]

Originally Posted by SisterCoyote

Horsehockey. Pizza will do what Pizza does, and also cf the Mod's comment already quoted toDay.

No.



I've been suspicious of your play for days now and this seals it for me. Also, even if I'm wrong (which I don't think I am), your flip will tell us something about Meeko, if not Double A.

My flip will tell you nothing about Meeko and your suspicions on me have been unserious to the point of non-existence.
unvote

vote SisterCoyote
Because I want you all to see what textbook OMGUS looks like.

[SisterCoyote]

We already know what that looks like. So, you know. Go ahead and vote me, but you *might* want to find a better target.

And yes, it will. If I'm wrong, and/or if you flip ANYTHING but Vanilla, that'll tell us quite a lot about Meeko.

[lulz]

Originally Posted by SisterCoyote

We already know what that looks like. So, you know. Go ahead and vote me, but you *might* want to find a better target.

And yes, it will. If I'm wrong, and/or if you flip ANYTHING but Vanilla, that'll tell us quite a lot about Meeko.

You lightfoot and scathach are all fine targets. Most people don't know what a good OMGUS looks like.

You're stating the obvious. The not obvious is "WHAT DOES IT TELL US WHEN I FLIP VANILLA TOWN". That's the part you need to explain. You've got nothing there hence, my flip doesn't tell you anything and why you got my vote.

[idrinkthere4iam]

Originally Posted by SisterCoyote

Horsehockey. Pizza will do what Pizza does, and also cf the Mod's comment already quoted toDay.

No.



I've been suspicious of your play for days now and this seals it for me. Also, even if I'm wrong (which I don't think I am), your flip will tell us something about Meeko, if not Double A.

I sort of agree with your logic. But I'd much rather lynch Meeko if we are going down this road. He's had days to explain what his claim meant. And hasn't. That's anti-Town. It does nothing but hurt us to be kept in the dark here.

[idrinkthere4iam]

Not about being suspicious of lulz because I'm not. About getting answers from one of the three being lynched.

[lulz]

Originally Posted by idrinkthere4iam

I sort of agree with your logic. But I'd much rather lynch Meeko if we are going down this road.

Right. If SisCoy wants to "sort us three" then she would be pushing Meeko not me. Hence when I flip vanilla it tells you nothing. Her suspicion is not genuine.

[Scáthach]

Now for idrinkthere4iam - I still haven't gotten around to looking at Sooh and plan to tomorrow. Also, depending on @Meeko's reply to my earlier question, I'd like to revisit Double A.

idrinkthere4iam

D1: Was voted by Double A as a joke vote. (Still think this suggests that there may be some link between Double A and idrinkthere4iam as why single out only one person for non participation, but hey ho) Points out lulz is acting as he(?) has before Fluff and defense of being away Votes Zeener for jumping on the lulz wagon even though Zeener disagrees with most of the other players on the wagon Points out Pizza is just as distracting as lulz D2: Votes Double A for being against vote parking despite {Double A} leaving his joke vote on {idrinkthere4iam} for all of D1 Originally understands Archangels vote on him for being the start of the bandwagon, but then comes back to defend himself fairly heatedly (post 46 and 174 respectively) Originally Posted by idrinkthere4iam Fair enough. Wrong. But fair. Originally Posted by idrinkthere4iam Previously stated? This? Bandwagon started when Double A jumped on the vote immediately. And didn't really explain why. But since I was reasonable about my reason, I'm the Scum. Got it. Thanks for clarifying. Maybe I should just blind vote next time. That couldn't possibly make me appear Scummy. Shall we ask lulz how that tactic works? Everyone is trying to look reasonable. Don't agree with it, that's fine. But don't accuse me of being Scum because I'm backing up what I say. That's hypocritical. Bit weird, given he addresses the same post twice with two very different reactions. Explains his voting strategy: Originally Posted by idrinkthere4iam Ok. Let me explain how I play Mafia games. I've a very analytical player. I may not post a ton, I have a very busy schedule OOG and my hours are very erratic at times. But, I read everything. And I weigh it. I make patterns and look for logical explanations in them. I don't throw votes around willy-nilly. Usually I wait near EOD to vote (last 2 days of the Day). I like to have concrete reasons when I vote as well. That's just me. I've only been here for 4 games (maybe 5?). You can look back over them and see. This is how I am in these games. Take that for what it's worth. Seems fair given his d1 vote which I thought was reasonable and justifiable. Null tell on town vs scum though, players who always vote with a reason tend to vote with a reason whether they're town or scum. Ditto for people who tend to go with their gut. -Finally points out that lulz got voted for voting with no reason and now he's being voted for giving a reason D3: - Takes mild offence to Pizza saying he isn't invested in the game (hoo boy can I sympathise) -Pizza is pinging him with his "I'm such a villager" schtick -Questions Meeko's claim (for reals, is he a role cop or an alignment cop or both?) -Defends himself - says he thinks the timing of Double A's D1 vote was suspicious in retrospect -Again presses Meeko's timing D4 -His lynch target would have been Pizza if Pizza was alive -Given the claim would prefer to lynch Meeko rather than lulz (still suspicous of Meeko's lack of clarity) -Not suspicious of lulz

@idrinkthere4iam - Given your suspicion of Meeko's claim (or at least your position that it's not very clear) and your earlier suspicion of Double A (who was cleared (?) by Meeko), how do you feel about Double A right now?

A part of me really wants to lynch Meeko right now, because I think it would cut a few knots. I'm skeptical that idrinkthere4iam would push so hard against Meeko's vagueness if Meeko is town and idrinkthere4iam is scum. Also Meeko's claim is what stopped me from voting Double A again (admittedly pending a reread since I wrote them off as a scum candidate since the claim). At the same time, I'd like Meeko to state a clear position for the record before we lynch him because if he did turn out to be town then I still have no idea if lulz and Double A are just vanilla or they're vanilla town.

[Scáthach]

Originally Posted by Visorslash

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Last vote count cleaned up:

Mahaloth (5): SisterCoyote (167), Double A (179), Askthepizzaguy (189)[199], Sooh (193), guiri (198), Askthepizzaguy (201)
Scathach (2): Askthepizzaguy (3)[189], Sooh (6)[193], Sario (17), SisterCoyote (23)[167], Double A (150)[179], lulz (188), Askthepizzaguy (199)[201]
Askthepizzaguy (2): LightFoot (110), Scáthach (168)
Lightfoot (1): Mahaloth (138)
Sooh (0): guiri (164)[198]

By post 198 it looks like there were 4 votes on Maha and only 2 on me, so Askthepizzaguys flopping around EOD was relatively meaningless. It's possible he thought he was saving Maha with his last vote change then changed it back when he realised there was no tie after all.

The morning post of "The titans are at full strength" is odd though. I had been assuming that it meant scum or a 3rd party had recruited and Pizza's reveal seemed to confirm that. But none of the scum players have had names of Titans from Greek mythology that I can see?

[SisterCoyote]

I could, in fact, get behind a Meeko lynch. I just don't think it's the first best choice.

[Scáthach]

Originally Posted by lulz

If there is another one-shot vig out there should they claim?

Equally, if there's some town power that prevented a NK D1 then now or toNight might be a good time to claim.

[Double A]

Meeko cleared me and Lulz as vanilla, but that doesn't mean we're necessarily town. I'm pretty sure Lulz is still and started out as town, and I'm also pretty sure I'm still town. I haven't gotten any PMs from Visor since the game started, so if I'm scum, nobody told me.

Was voted by Double A as a joke vote. (Still think this suggests that there may be some link between Double A and idrinkthere4iam as why single out only one person for non participation, but hey ho)

"joke vote"
"single out only one person for non participation"
Please choose one.

[Scáthach]

Originally Posted by Double A

Meeko cleared me and Lulz as vanilla, but that doesn't mean we're necessarily town. I'm pretty sure Lulz is still and started out as town, and I'm also pretty sure I'm still town. I haven't gotten any PMs from Visor since the game started, so if I'm scum, nobody told me.

"joke vote"
"single out only one person for non participation"
Please choose one.

I can't believe it's D4 and I'm still explaining this.

I voted you D1 for what I felt was a weird vote on idrinkthere4iam. (You voted him for not having posted yet and I thought it was weird that you voted for him without mentioning that I also had not yet participated). Not a fantastic vote by me for D1, but reasonable enough I feel for a D1 vote.

Then, later you said that the reason you hadn't voted for me was because I'd already posted D1*BUT* I had not posted before you voted, so that clearly was not true.

So then D2 and following I was voting you for what I felt was a clear lie. You keep trying to make out like I bulldogged you for the original D1 joke vote but you ignore every post I make pointing out that that was not the case.

[Scáthach]

Originally Posted by Double A

Pretty sure you posted on the first page, and pretty sure that posting counts as posting.

This post.

[Double A]

I'm not sure if I'd be okay with a Meeko lynch unless Lulz is also scum, and I'm pretty sure he's not. His actions stopped me and Lulz being lynched, and lynching townies is something the scum really like doing. Either two of us are mafia, or none of us are. Also, it would be kinda weird if apparently the only scanner in the game is a scumazoid.
I'm willing to bet 50 Internet points that there was only Mahaloth and one other in the beginning. Maybe Meeko was his scanner? I would find it extremely weird if the scum don't have a scanner too. If it's Meeko, then he's incredibly ballsy, but we're still missing a town scanner. I feel like I'm distracting myself with all this.

It might be worth comparing everyone's behavior across the different days. If anyone went from offensive to defensive really quickly, they might be a convert.

[Double A]

Originally Posted by Scáthach

This post.

Oh.

Bear with me, because I have a fucking terrible memory.

I went back and checked the first page when I posted that. I think I mixed you up with someone else. Furthermore, I was giving you sass for getting on me for making a joke vote.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by SisterCoyote

I could, in fact, get behind a Meeko lynch. I just don't think it's the first best choice.

Uh, thanks?

Who isn't so lucky?

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by idrinkthere4iam

I sort of agree with your logic. But I'd much rather lynch Meeko if we are going down this road. He's had days to explain what his claim meant. And hasn't. That's anti-Town. It does nothing but hurt us to be kept in the dark here.

I didn't think it needed explaining.

[Double A]

I'm not entirely sure what's so confusing about claiming to be a scanner of vanilla folks.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Double A

I'm not entirely sure what's so confusing about claiming to be a scanner of vanilla folks.

You are missing the whole picture- He said " They are telling the truth" then he said " they are vanilla" he refuses to clarify IF he knows if the afore mentioned are Town or Scum- or admit 'e doesn't know

[Scáthach]

Originally Posted by Meeko

I didn't think it needed explaining.

Multiple people have asked the same question so I guess it does need explaining. Did you get results that lulz and Double A were vanilla or that they were vanilla town?

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[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Double A

I'm not entirely sure what's so confusing about claiming to be a scanner of vanilla folks.

THIS.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Double A

I'm not entirely sure what's so confusing about claiming to be a scanner of vanilla folks.

I agree, but no-one has claimed that role. Meeko claimed cop and said Lulz and Double A were telling the truth, then confirmed they are vanilla - which he'd know either by their telling the truth or by being a role cop. Meeko later claims to have cleared Lulz - which relates to alignment, not role. Take a look:

Meeko claims cop:

Originally Posted by Meeko

I'm a Cop. Lulz and Double A speak the truth.

Meeko adds that they are both vanilla.

Originally Posted by Meeko

They are both vanila.

I ask about the timing, since Lulz was close to being lynched on D2, and whether he got role or alignment too.

Originally Posted by guiri

When did you investigate Lulz? Do you only get role, or alignment too?

Scathach seems to understand Meeko's said they are Town:

Originally Posted by Scáthach

Mind you, given Meeko's recent claim, looks like I was wrong on all counts.

Scum Maha thinks Meeko's cleared them:

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

Uh, didn't Meeko just claim and clear lulz and archangel?

Scathach seems to agree:

Originally Posted by Scáthach

Lulz and Double A but yeah - I do mention that in my post.

Lulz argues he's been cleared:

Originally Posted by lulz

If they are scum? Cleared by meeko. If you have doubts about the claim why aren't you pushing on Meeko who cleared us?

Sister Coyote believes Meeko's death will confirm their alignment:

Originally Posted by SisterCoyote

I accept Lulz and Double A are most likely not Scum. This, however, pends one of their deaths or Meeko's death for solid confirmation.

Drinkie asks Meeko to clarify:

Originally Posted by idrinkthere4iam

i.e. They are both vanilla town or both just vanilla (potentially scum)? Or a combination?

Sister Coyote answers:

Originally Posted by SisterCoyote

Drinkie, Meeko said they were telling the truth when they both said they were town.

Lulz answers:

Originally Posted by lulz

Meeko can confirm we're vanilla if he's either a rolecop or vanillacop.

If meeko is a cop then meeko could only confirm that we're town but not if we're vanilla.

In some circle's meeko's claim would have gotten him powerlynched but I am never chasing that rabbit hole again.

I ask for clarification:

Originally Posted by guiri

@Meeko, can you clarify your role and when you investigated Lulz? Are you a role cop, vanilla cop, alignment cop, or bit of everything? Did you have a result on Lulz at Dawn of D2?

Bill thinks they've vanilla town:

Originally Posted by BillMc

Lulz & doubleA - investigated as vanilla town by

And then Meeko claims to have cleared Lulz:

Originally Posted by Meeko

I don't get you Lulz, I clear you, and you pour Haterade?

I can understand leaving it a little ambiguous to mess with scum, WIFOM whether you're a threat or not, catch one with a slip - as with Maha, but it confuses town too.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Double A

Okay, since Pizza was recruited I guess the scum tried to recruit or scan someone N1. It'd be weird if they couldn't scan for recruits. I'd say 1-2 starting scum and probably not too many more recruits.

I'd wager that Mahaloth was the recruiter.

Pizza had been pushing for Scathach nearly all game. Working off of Sooh's theory, that would mean townie Pizza proposed that Scath is scum. I don't know if that's enough for me to vote for her, though, cause Pizza was also adamant about lynching Lightfoot.

and that's all the analysis I have in me what the fuck is going on

Can you elaborate on this? Why do you guess they tried N1?

It is just as likely that Pizza was the mystery writer and crumbed his willingness to be recruited.

Why do you think Mahaloth was the recruiter? - in your gameplay how does a recruiter work?

also- I don't really follow your last paragraph ( except restating the obvious?)

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by lulz

ATPG was adamant about making a tie when it came to Lightfoot v1 but miscalculated the VoteCount. I agree that ATPG was likely recruited the same night he was killed. That hop onto MAHA looked real and that last minute challenge to me looked real.

I think you miss-remember- Pizza pushed for a tie D1 when it was you and Double A-

He had no desire to save LFv1 Day 2.

I can see where his play seemed to changed slightly Day 3 so I still think it was N2 or D3 ( early) - Like I said before he may well have been bussing for Town cred to take him to end game- and it appeared he was attempting to sully your rep ( if you voted wrong at the last hour)

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Vote Counting Robot

Lulz (1): SisterCoyote (50)
Sistercoyote (1): lulz (51)
Idrinkthere4iam (1): Sooh (35)
Sooh (0): SisterCoyote (12)[41]
Lightfoot (0): lulz (4)[51]

Last minute votes generally hurt Town- I will get mine in.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by idrinkthere4iam

No. I wanted to lynch pizza.

When? yesterDay when you didn't vote? or Last Night after Pizza had pushed for a Scum lynch?

walk me through this - please

[Double A]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Can you elaborate on this? Why do you guess they tried N1?

Well, they didn't kill anyone.

It is just as likely that Pizza was the mystery writer and crumbed his willingness to be recruited.

Pizza generally hates being recruited, and I can see why. It feels damn unfair to suddenly have victory conditions that were the exact opposite of what you were formerly working towards.

Why do you think Mahaloth was the recruiter? - in your gameplay how does a recruiter work?

USUALLY the head mafioso has a recruitment ability, if the mafia have any sort of recruiting ability. I was the head of something like that in Pirate Ship Mafia II on the org. It was way the hell bigger, but I started with one underling and moved on to two more. Susceptibility to conversion was predetermined for everyone's role, and the only way I could find out was have my scumbuddy scan someone for me. There have been similar setups in Star Wars and/or LOTR games on CFC.

also- I don't really follow your last paragraph ( except restating the obvious?)

I think he was trying to get Scathach lynched when he was still town. I'm not sure if she's actually scum because he fucked up with you on the day before.

[LightFoot]

I went back and read idrink's posts



summary of D1 / D2 Granted it was authoured by Pizza ( who I believe was still Town at this point -early N2 )

even if you disregard Pizza's comments the posts are still there.
D3

Originally Posted by idrinkthere4iam

I take great offense to this statement pizza. Never question my dedication to games. I may not stay up all night and post every minute, but I am invested in this game, otherwise I would sub out. I work a very demanding, stressful job. I've worked 12 hours or more for the last 3 weeks, including weekends. I work 16 hours today. This will probably be the only post you see from me today as I have to check the board on my phone at work, and probably won't post anything even if I read it since I don't have the time.

Moreover, I am frustrated. Believe me or don't. That's the truth.

Also, I will honor your request to react to your accusations. But you will see those tomorrow evening at the earliest. I check here to see who was lynched and read a couple posts. But I'm not even close to reading everything that was posted at Night. Bear with me.

Originally Posted by idrinkthere4iam

It's posts like this that ping me. "This is classic villager pizza". Obviously I'm new to your play style but the whole "I'm not the player your looking for" thing just screams misdirection to me. Maybe it's just me. That's why I said I couldn't really provide an exact reason why I was suspicious. Like i ask before though, I know it's not much and that's why I have never voted for you this game. It's a pointless reason but it does make me question you. You have me confused. And since I'm Town, I don't like things that confuse me. Make sense?

I'm still at work now but I've caught up on the reading. I'll make a few more posts tonight to answer any direct questions from last Night or toDay. If I miss any just point them out. Lots of text walls and quite tags last Night so it's easy to miss something.

Originally Posted by idrinkthere4iam

I suspected Double A after he voted Zeener right after me. After Zeener was shown to be Town I started looking back and the quickness that Double A voted Zeener stood out to me. So yeah, after during Day 1 I didn't suspect Double A but I did afterwards. And I thought I explained that in my posts yesterDay, but maybe I didn't do it well enough.

And I never suspected lulz, who you defend. In fact, I defended him wen others were voting for him based on his previous gameplay here. I didn't think he appeared Scummy at all and thought that was a bad vote as well.

There are a few other posts of no real substance.

Originally Posted by idrinkthere4iam

Wasn't downplaying anything. Just trying to understand it. He first posted that they were telling the truth. Then he posted again, in bold I might add, They are both vanila. I wanted verification on if he was confirming that they were both vanilla, or if there was more. There's a huge difference between being confirmed vanilla and being confirmed vanilla town. I trust his claim, I have no reason not too, but I would like clarification. And it seems I'm not alone in this…

the only N3 post ( and a reason for not answering questions as promised)

Originally Posted by idrinkthere4iam

So yeah. My birthday was yesterday. Went out after work Friday and lost my phone. Got it back late last night when the bar found it. I guess I was lucky there since that never happens. But alas my phone is back. So that's why I missed EoD and up until now. For those who were interested.

Not much toDay-

Wanted to Lynch Pizza toDay

corrects me on my vig misconception

would rather lynch Meeko ( of the three)

again not suspicious of Lulz







I should have a block of time later this clock day to return

[LightFoot]

NETA after Pizza's N2 post I expected him to push for Idrinks lynch D3 but he didn't-- that is part of why I think he was recruited near the end of N2- beginning of D3 ( however that timing works) and Maha was willing to ' take one for the team'

[idrinkthere4iam]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

When? yesterDay when you didn't vote? or Last Night after Pizza had pushed for a Scum lynch?

walk me through this - please

I posted last Night why I was MIA. Lost my phone. No computer. Go back and reread it since you seem to have missed it.

[idrinkthere4iam]

I feel she has waffled a lot on her stance on meeko's claim. Believed it as first. Then doubted it. Then supported it. Voted lulz today. Then said as kind of supports a meeko lynch.

Doesn't sit well with me.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by idrinkthere4iam

I posted last Night why I was MIA. Lost my phone. No computer. Go back and reread it since you seem to have missed it.

I didn't miss it- I quoted it- but your response does not address the post you just quoted.

[idrinkthere4iam]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

I didn't miss it- I quoted it- but your response does not address the post you just quoted.

I posted Night 2 that suspected him. No one agreed so I dropped it and just watched him. After he was so adamant to vote scathach then changed to maha my eyebrows raised. The reason was a good one, but he got on other players for the same logic. So I felt he was being hypocrital. When maha flipped scum I felt it was a staged bussing for him to gain town cred. A lot of players were following him as it was. It all felt off to me.

[idrinkthere4iam]

And I felt like part of the reason you voted me was because of my absence. Which was why I posted what I did.

[SisterCoyote]

So.

You think TWO scum bussed Mahaloth? Since I'm the one who twigged to him in the first place.

I misread what Meeko said, and I made an assumption that on further review proved to be incorrect. Having recognized my error, I then went BACK and discovered that Mahaloth was encouraging the idea that they were both Vanilla Town rather than just Vanilla. And that is why I voted for him.

And now -- I am inclined to believe that Meeko is a Vanilla Detector. But the only way to be SURE of that is for Meeko to die and flip. If either of the targets die and flip other than Vanilla, that'll tell us something about Meeko, too.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by idrinkthere4iam

And I felt like part of the reason you voted me was because of my absence. Which was why I posted what I did.

Context not content
You may not be posting a lot but you are not really putting meat in your sandwiches.

You have said a few times that you would get back to certain issues and then.....

[lulz]

Originally Posted by SisterCoyote

So.

You think TWO scum bussed Mahaloth? Since I'm the one who twigged to him in the first place.

I misread what Meeko said, and I made an assumption that on further review proved to be incorrect. Having recognized my error, I then went BACK and discovered that Mahaloth was encouraging the idea that they were both Vanilla Town rather than just Vanilla. And that is why I voted for him.

And now -- I am inclined to believe that Meeko is a Vanilla Detector. But the only way to be SURE of that is for Meeko to die and flip. If either of the targets die and flip other than Vanilla, that'll tell us something about Meeko, too.

Siscoy, you're still missing the point by a wide margin.

What if I'm vanilla and Doubl A is not? What if both of us are vanilla but Double A is also vanilla goon?

If you want to sort us your only option is meeko.

[Visorslash]

Just a reminder that day ends in just under 29 hours.

[BillMc]

Meeko -- why are you beating around the bush with your results? Please clearly state what you got as results.

We know recruitment is definitely in the game, but we don't know whether it was just a single recruit, or multiple recruitments. if the latter, we cannot trust any investigative results.

N1 and N3 there was no scum kill - if scum had a recruit or kill choice - then possibly there was also recruitment on N1.

from the voting patterns, i'm leaning towards idrink at this point

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by BillMc

Meeko -- why are you beating around the bush with your results? Please clearly state what you got as results.

We know recruitment is definitely in the game, but we don't know whether it was just a single recruit, or multiple recruitments. if the latter, we cannot trust any investigative results.

N1 and N3 there was no scum kill - if scum had a recruit or kill choice - then possibly there was also recruitment on N1.

from the voting patterns, i'm leaning towards idrink at this point

They are vanilla.


Fairly certain we already covered this.

[BillMc]

Nope - you've dodged the question of whether you are a role cop or an alignment cop.

If all you are getting for results is "vanilla" - then that tells us jackshit about their alignment, so your 'clearing' of lulz and doublea is also worth jack.

[idrinkthere4iam]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Context not content
You may not be posting a lot but you are not really putting meat in your sandwiches.

You have said a few times that you would get back to certain issues and then.....

Example?

[SisterCoyote]

There are other explanations for why there wasn't a scum Kill on either of those nights, Bill.

That said:

[idrinkthere4iam]

Originally Posted by SisterCoyote

There are other explanations for why there wasn't a scum Kill on either of those nights, Bill.

That said:

Can you offer up another explanation?

[SisterCoyote]

I could. I am choosing not to.

[guiri]

I think it's Drinkie 4 - Sister 2, with no-one else.

I'm not a fan of the votes on Sister Coyote, her RL plea yesterDay and her push on Maha buys her a little cred... I can see how her pushing a lynch on Lulz over Meeko seems to be an agenda, since it's not the optimal play but her stance on Meeko's claim feels real.

I thought Drinkie was acting in his satisfaction that Pizza was dead, but re-reading found that he did express suspicion, which was reciprocated by Pizza, and then apparently lost his phone, it's plausible.

Originally Posted by idrinkthere4iam

I posted Night 2 that suspected him. No one agreed so I dropped it and just watched him. After he was so adamant to vote scathach then changed to maha my eyebrows raised. The reason was a good one, but he got on other players for the same logic. So I felt he was being hypocrital. When maha flipped scum I felt it was a staged bussing for him to gain town cred. A lot of players were following him as it was. It all felt off to me.

But this is new, did you ever share these thoughts?

I'm still bothered by Double A and his reactions to Scathach, changing his story again.

Originally Posted by Double A

I went back and checked the first page when I posted that. I think I mixed you up with someone else. Furthermore, I was giving you sass for getting on me for making a joke vote.

But she DID post on page 1, just after you voted, that was my point, you lied about your reason for not voting her, simple as that.

Meeko's clarified that he only knows they are vanilla, but Pizza wasn't Vanilla, and there's recruitment so...

@Meeko, what result would you get if you investigated a mafia goon? Could you ask the mod? And could you tell us who you investigated N1?

I was starting to read Dizzy as scum but am feeling better about Lightfoot, a hell of a turnaround.

Originally Posted by LightFoot

NETA after Pizza's N2 post I expected him to push for Idrinks lynch D3 but he didn't-- that is part of why I think he was recruited near the end of N2- beginning of D3 ( however that timing works) and Maha was willing to ' take one for the team'

Didn't scum shoot one of their own in the last game, was Pizza on that team?

Originally Posted by Double A

It might be worth comparing everyone's behavior across the different days. If anyone went from offensive to defensive really quickly, they might be a convert.

This. Made any progress? His D2 and N2 passion for Scathach did seem to die out over D3.

Didn't Pizza post color-coded reads on D1 or D2? I remember I was orange at one point and then something else, did anyone else change?

Originally Posted by BillMc

from the voting patterns, i'm leaning towards idrink at this point

He voted Zeener, Double A and then no-one. You voted Lulz, Archangel then no-one, what about his votes pushes him over the edge?

[idrinkthere4iam]

Originally Posted by SisterCoyote

I could. I am choosing not to.

So you offer up that there may be other answers. Yet don't want to provide any of your own?

Can I vote for you twice?

[SisterCoyote]

Originally Posted by idrinkthere4iam

So you offer up that there may be other answers. Yet don't want to provide any of your own?

Can I vote for you twice?

I'm not sure I need to provide any of my own, to be honest, but I'm bored so here's one:

Scum shot at Sario, whose role killed them instead.

There are others.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by idrinkthere4iam

Example?

See post # 78 above?

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by guiri

I think it's Drinkie 4 - Sister 2, with no-one else.

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I was starting to read Dizzy as scum but am feeling better about Lightfoot, a hell of a turnaround.
Didn't scum shoot one of their own in the last game, was Pizza on that team?

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I think Dizzy was just too distracted/busy to commit to the game-
Yes, in a previous game Scum NK’d one of their own ( don’t recall if Pizza was in that one though)

Didn't Pizza post color-coded reads on D1 or D2? I remember I was orange at one point and then something else, did anyone else change?

one of such lists is quoted post 47 this Day (from Day 3)
I think there was an earlier one but not sure