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Old 11th November 2016, 10:09 AM
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1) Be less consecendingly dishonest. Trump was just as bad or worse, but when caught in a lie he shrugged and moved on or said "oops, my bad".
Wait, what. When did Trump ever once concede he'd misrepresented anything? He rarely even "shrugged and moved on," as I recollect; typically he repeated his lie, doubling down where possible.
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Old 11th November 2016, 10:35 AM
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Hillary should've taken a cue from Michelle O, who was better at campaigning for HRC than she herself was.

And take it from someone who lives in a country that's been Democrat Socialist for all but 17 of the last 80 years, Bernie didn't get many things right.
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Old 11th November 2016, 01:10 PM
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And take it from someone who lives in a country that's been Democrat Socialist for all but 17 of the last 80 years, .
It cant be both democratic and Socialist, there's something in the Socialist's heart that makes him abhor Freedom and Democracy. This is what makes him ungodly and repugnant.
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Old 11th November 2016, 01:25 PM
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1) Be less consecendingly dishonest. Trump was just as bad or worse, but when caught in a lie he shrugged and moved on or said "oops, my bad".
Wait, what. When did Trump ever once concede he'd misrepresented anything? He rarely even "shrugged and moved on," as I recollect; typically he repeated his lie, doubling down where possible.
This. He shouted "WRONG" and/or continued spouting every lie I ever saw him called on, and no one seemed to have a problem with that. Why did everyone allow him to shrug and go on lying without characterizing him as a lying liar who lies?


I agree with point #6 of the OP - she was never convincing with anything that wasn't her own policy/platform. When she adopted Bernie's "free college for everyone!" it was always through clenched teeth / flat affect. She couldn't pander convincingly at all.
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Old 11th November 2016, 01:31 PM
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Wait, what. When did Trump ever once concede he'd misrepresented anything? He rarely even "shrugged and moved on," as I recollect; typically he repeated his lie, doubling down where possible.
This. He shouted "WRONG" and/or continued spouting every lie I ever saw him called on, and no one seemed to have a problem with that. Why did everyone allow him to shrug and go on lying without characterizing him as a lying liar who lies?
Any other candidate would have been eviscerated by both the mainstream and social media for this. Apparently it was passed off as "Donald is crazy, what else is new?" and we just sat back and waited for his inevitable implosion. IOW, we complicity accepted this bad behavior with the thought that no one, I mean NO ONE, would seriously consider voting for him.
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