Snark Boat 109: Profiles in Durpitude

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

pkbites (pkbutts?) confesses his intent to commit what is likely a federal crime.

What's the federal crime? I know there are laws about reporting $10K transactions (Bank Secrecy Act), and if you try to circumvent them by spacing out the transactions, you can get hit with "structuring," but this is a $1.4K transaction of money orders at a Walmart. What law would he be breaking? I'm not saying there isn't one -- I actually do not know -- but I totally understand his reticence to giving out the information if he doesn't want to. (I personally, have no issue and give my ID out willy-nilly, but I totally get being private about it.)

ETA: OK, I do see some laws about money orders and cashier's checks under the BSA, but they are for values of $3K up.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

What's the federal crime? I know there are laws about reporting $10K transactions (Bank Secrecy Act), and if you try to circumvent them by spacing out the transactions, you can get hit with "structuring," but this is a $1.4K transaction of money orders at a Walmart. What law would he be breaking? I'm not saying there isn't one -- I actually do not know -- but I totally understand his reticence to giving out the information if he doesn't want to. (I personally, have no issue and give my ID out willy-nilly, but I totally get being private about it.)

ETA: OK, I do see some laws about money orders and cashier's checks under the BSA, but they are for values of $3K up.

I think that was hyperbole. You could drive around town buying $900 money orders at 12 different places without committing a crime.

[Someone]

pkbites "I AM THE COPS!!!!!!!11111111 "

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

You could drive around town buying $900 money orders at 12 different places without committing a crime.

This is only true if your purchasing habits are not for the purpose of avoiding reporting requirements. pkbites clearly stated his intent to avoid identification and reporting procedures, though.

[Someone]

Well, pkbites is a dickhead and on that we all agree.

[Someone]

Who needs to frequently buy large money orders? Genuinely curious. I've gone through my whole life buying maybe three.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Who needs to frequently buy large money orders?

Someone paying off a blackmailer. And of him, I would believe that to be the reason.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Who needs to frequently buy large money orders? Genuinely curious. I've gone through my whole life buying maybe three.

In 2008 he was bitching about having to show ID when he bought $4,000 in money orders. It's weird because he doesn't strike me as someone likely to be unbanked.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

In 2008 he was bitching about having to show ID when he bought $4,000 in money orders. It's weird because he doesn't strike me as someone likely to be unbanked.

He’s mentioned in various threads that he owns a gun shop, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the money orders are involved with that in some way. Which makes his potential structuring all the more hilarious. Owning a politically sensitive business closely watched by law enforcement and conducting transactions in a way that is indistinguishable from such a business operating illegitimately is not a smart move.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

In 2008 he was bitching about having to show ID when he bought $4,000 in money orders. It's weird because he doesn't strike me as someone likely to be unbanked.

He owns a gun store. Somehow, the fact that he's using lots of money orders does not reassure me.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

What's the federal crime? I know there are laws about reporting $10K transactions (Bank Secrecy Act), and if you try to circumvent them by spacing out the transactions, you can get hit with "structuring," but this is a $1.4K transaction of money orders at a Walmart. What law would he be breaking? I'm not saying there isn't one -- I actually do not know -- but I totally understand his reticence to giving out the information if he doesn't want to. (I personally, have no issue and give my ID out willy-nilly, but I totally get being private about it.)

ETA: OK, I do see some laws about money orders and cashier's checks under the BSA, but they are for values of $3K up.

I said “likely” because I am not sure if structuring applies to any reporting limit or the federally mandated limit, and whether Walmart’s procedure is based in local law. In any case, if pkbites buys money orders on any kind of regular basis he probably will reach the $3000 limit fairly quickly and his evasiveness would then definitely be structuring.