Totally Legitimate Business Day 2.1

[Vanta Black]

Off to a rolling start!

Originally Posted by Vote Counting Robot

Bashorian Clement (2): Mahaloth (4), LightFoot (18)
Mahaloth (2): Prof. Pepperwinkle (5), Lion (16)
Silverjan (1): Bashorian Clement (24)

If you want, you can paste this as well: Voting History: post #4: Mahaloth voted Bashorian Clement post #5: Prof. Pepperwinkle voted Mahaloth post #16: Lion voted Mahaloth post #18: LightFoot voted Bashorian Clement post #24: Bashorian Clement voted Silverjan

We found Stumpy! She was in the back office shredding papers, which is one of her duties. Totally non-incriminating papers.

We also note that quite a few items got blown out of peoples' cabins and have turned up in the Lost & Found.

[Bashorian Clement]

Originally Posted by Lion

I would also take Pleonast and I would appreciate if Bashorian would show up and explain his play without any doubletalk.



I do wish you luck, P.P.

I'm not going to explain my play. If you can't keep up, stay at home.

[Archangel]

[B]Bashorian Clement[/],

LightFoot voted you because you didn’t gamble.
Pleonast naked voted you (he may have said the reason earlier before the vote, I’m only looking at the vote posts now).
Bill voted you for talking to yourself and for not contributing much beyond that.
Jan voted you because you didn’t gamble and because she believed Mahaloth about the PM.
Mahaloth voted you for self-preservation, and Prof voted you to make the quota.

I don’t see anyone who voted you because of the PM?

[Bashorian Clement]

Originally Posted by Archangel

Why? I mean why are you leaving it on her if you want to change to Mahaloth? Or does that mean that you’re also willing to change to Mahaloth?

I want to rout out scum, and this is going to do it.

[Bashorian Clement]

Originally Posted by Archangel

[B]Bashorian Clement[/],



LightFoot voted you because you didn’t gamble.

Pleonast naked voted you (he may have said the reason earlier before the vote, I’m only looking at the vote posts now).

Bill voted you for talking to yourself and for not contributing much beyond that.

Jan voted you because you didn’t gamble and because she believed Mahaloth about the PM.

Mahaloth voted you for self-preservation, and Prof voted you to make the quota.



I don’t see anyone who voted you because of the PM?

You are correct. That was my way of saying I received the PM. I know what it says and how it was formatted. Handshake or not, it's out there, so I'm going to talk about it.

[Bashorian Clement]

And no, Pleonast has not given a reason for his vote. Unless I overlooked it myself.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

No, but I don't have any way to learn anything....I only have a bodyguard power that I still have.

I thought it was a one shot
you said

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

I see nothing in the rules to prevent me from posting my PM's. So:

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Also, I won a Bodyguard power. One shot and allows me to target someone at night and if they die, I die in their place. Here is the PM for that:

[LightFoot]

hmmm

[sturmhauke]

That could just mean he didn't use it.

[Bashorian Clement]

In fact, the not gambling theory is silly enough that when Pleonast specifically posted that he was gambling for that very reason, to avoid that exact suspicion, I believe I was the only one remaining who hadn't gambled, and it would have been foolish for scum!me to not gamble at that point.

[LightFoot]

Then why did he visit someone
I had a one shot tracker PR

and discuss......................

[LightFoot]

more suspicious target spotted

[LightFoot]

too soon probably but

[Archangel]

Lol. I am a bit tipsy right now but that makes me want to pop popcorn. This should be good.

[LightFoot]

not absolving BC either

[sturmhauke]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Then why did he visit someone
I had a one shot tracker PR

and discuss......................

Do you know who Mahaloth visited, or only that he went somewhere?

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by sturmhauke

Do you know who Mahaloth visited, or only that he went somewhere?

I do know who he visited

[LightFoot]

I do not know what he went there for but he lied about not using / having the one shot he claimed.

[LightFoot]

I am thinking I busted the news a tad early- should have let it play out a bit
But let us see what is / isn't discussed now

[LightFoot]

And I think I shall
##Gamble

[LightFoot]

If I lose my shirt and get a ' time out' look at how others have interacted with the near launch of Maha -- there may be something there

[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

Silverjan has been on my meh maybe maybe not list for a good bit, and this post topped the scales. Specifically, when a player self-metas in a certain manner, and I can't really describe it, it pings me hard. A couple of games back when ATP went through that long explanation of his bussing strategy, and there was the discussion about how Silverjan doesn't like to bus and never buses, I took note. Here it seems Jan is leveraging that meta, maybe even that very discussion, which planted that seed that Jan never buses but Jan does bus. I don't care whether she was actually bussing in this game or not, but that she self-metaed in that manner leads me to conclude she's concealing a truth. I think she's scum.





I hope this formatting works. Tapatalk doesn't allow a preview.

I was asked a question and I answered it to the best of my ability.

[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

I do not know what he went there for but he lied about not using / having the one shot he claimed.

Maybe he wanted people to think he still had that power? How the hell did he get the Town PM though? If he hadn't posted that I wouldn't have changed my vote on him. You say Maha did use his power though and I have to wonder why he did. Why would a scum have used the bodyguard power anyway?

[LightFoot]

Jan you seem a different this game. Is IRL going OK?

[Lion]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

And I think I shall
##Gamble

I wish you the best of luck as well.

[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Jan you seem a different this game. Is IRL going OK?

I am okay, just being in lockdown and not seeing anyone for over a year has taken it's toll. I also have toothache and the dentist can't get me numb enough to do anything to that tooth because of previous nerve damage when I had my wisdom teeth out. I'm not very happy at the moment, sorry

[sturmhauke]

Sorry to hear that Jan. I think we're all going a little stir crazy.

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[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by sturmhauke

Sorry to hear that Jan. I think we're all going a little stir crazy.

Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk

Thank you, it will get better

[sturmhauke]

Regarding this Mahaloth thing, I see a few possibilities:

* Maha is lying about the nature of the power. It may be permanent, it may be something else like a tracker or vigilante ability, he may just be regular scum.

* Something else interfered with the power usage. Perhaps a roleblocker or an effect of the red dawn.

* LightFoot is lying about his own power and attempting to discredit Maha.

[sturmhauke]

@Pleonast and @BillMc have not posted in this thread yet. Is it due to RL, or are they in the brig? Or maybe they're conspiring in secret.

[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by sturmhauke

Regarding this Mahaloth thing, I see a few possibilities:

* Maha is lying about the nature of the power. It may be permanent, it may be something else like a tracker or vigilante ability, he may just be regular scum.

* Something else interfered with the power usage. Perhaps a roleblocker or an effect of the red dawn.

* LightFoot is lying about his own power and attempting to discredit Maha.

If Maha was a vig and visited someone, as LightFoot said, then wouldn't that person have died?

[sturmhauke]

Originally Posted by Silverjan

If Maha was a vig and visited someone, as LightFoot said, then wouldn't that person have died?

Unless something else interfered. For instance, maybe Maha and the scum targeted the same person that Lion protected. Or Maha actually does have the power he claims but is also scum. Some of these are more likely than others, but I'm trying to rule out complete tinfoil theories.

[Colby11]

Waiters appeared out of nowhere, with food for the guests. Being as they had been without food, they were a tad bit hungry. Today’s menu consisted of

Pizza! Pizza! And more pizza. How they were able to get it from Pizza Hut and Dominos is beyond me...

Chef Ramsay would never allow this.....

Umm, has anyone seen him lately?

[Prof. Pepperwinkle]

[Checking to see if there was any Hawaiian pizza...]

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

I'm being voted why?

I am voting for you because CENSORED. However, I will point out two aggravating factors. First, you didn't gamble. That doesn't prove anything, but it is evidence against you, given that the publicly posted rules disallow any other actions in a phase when gambling. We got to use the information we have.

Second, the difficulty in getting a majority of votes on you indicates that either A) many players think you are town, or B) no scum wants to bus you. I have not seen any evidence of A; most players are non-committal about you. That means the difficulty in launching is because your teammates are not willing to put a vote on you.

vote Bashorian Clement
Note that I am also happy to launch Mahaloth and will switch my vote if needed to assure a launch.

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

In fact, the not gambling theory is silly enough that when Pleonast specifically posted that he was gambling for that very reason, to avoid that exact suspicion, I believe I was the only one remaining who hadn't gambled, and it would have been foolish for scum!me to not gamble at that point.

Not foolish if scum wanted to have a Night kill. Which they did.

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Then why did he visit someone
I had a one shot tracker PR

and discuss......................

First item of discussion: who are you talking about?

Looking through your posts, you haven't stated anywhere who you're accusing.

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by sturmhauke

@Pleonast and @BillMc have not posted in this thread yet. Is it due to RL, or are they in the brig? Or maybe they're conspiring in secret.

Please don't @-me on this board, it messes up email notifications (some bug in this version of vBulletin).

Some of us need to commute, eat, sleep, etc...

Oh, but fair warning, I'm getting my second Moderna shot this afternoon. The first one gave me over two days of misery. Don't expect much from me until Monday, at least.

[BillMc]

No deaths, and Day 2.1 - that sounds a bit ominous.

In light of the claims being made by Lion and Lightfoot, I'm going to come clean.

I wasn't quite truthful about not winning at cards yesterDay. In fact, I won something quite useful, and hoped that by saying I won nothing, I might get a chance to use it.

I won "Night Auditor" - learn all powers and abilities in play in that phase. I used it last night and I'm in two minds whether to share the results, but I think it is important to understand how complex this game potentially is.

I was told that the following was in play last night:
Bodyguard
Bookie
Bouncer (1x vig)
Cooler (block)
Eye in the Sky (1x watcher)
Floor Manager (1x tracker)
Lucky Charm (doc)
Night Auditor
Ocean Mist of Confusion (1x mass redirection)
Untouchable (1x redirector)

So we've went from vanilla on N0 to a lot of powers in play on N2

Maha is claiming Bodyguard, Lion seems to be claiming Cooler, Lightfoot was the Eye in the Sky?

If the pineapple and/or eightball actually do anything, their effect has to be on the list.

I see Archangel & SilverJan gambled during the night, so they would have gained one of these, but could not use it during N2.

[Archangel]

Huh. Well, I believe your claim because I did win a power last night and I don’t know how you could know the name of it otherwise.

[Silverjan]

I believe his claim too because I won one of those too.

[Prof. Pepperwinkle]

Well, that's a bombshell.

[sturmhauke]

I also won one of those powers.

[LightFoot]

To be clear I claimed Floor Manager
I tracked Maha
Who claims to still retain his one shot ( according to him) power

[LightFoot]

Bill you were told what was in play last night

Are we assuming ' in play' means were used?
Or are they the powers that could have been used?

[BillMc]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Bill you were told what was in play last night

Are we assuming ' in play' means were used?
Or are they the powers that could have been used?

My read of it is that the powers were in the game at the time but no indication of whether they were actually used or not.

[Mahaloth]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

To be clear I claimed Floor Manager
I tracked Maha
Who claims to still retain his one shot ( according to him) power

I actually used it, but I must have had it blocked and I retain it. Not how I thought a one-shot worked, but I guess that is how it is.

[Archangel]

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

I actually used it, but I must have had it blocked and I retain it. Not how I thought a one-shot worked, but I guess that is how it is.

Who did you protect?

[Mahaloth]

Originally Posted by Archangel

Who did you protect?

I wasn't sure if I should say, but I guess I will.

Lion

I bodyguarded Lion, but it did not happen and I retained it instead of "burning it off" of whatever.

[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by Archangel

Who did you protect?

I think it's important that Maha answers this.