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Old 22nd December 2021, 07:13 AM
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Hi everyone, as most of you know my Monty died in June. His big sister Victoria is now at the vets for tests and rehydration, she could be in kidney failure. My stomach is in knots and I am crying. Vicksie pixie is 15 and nearly blind but I love her to the end of the universe and back, please think of her.

I know this post wasn't game related but I had to tell someone.
You are there for her. It means so much for pets to be loved.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 07:20 AM
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Hi everyone, as most of you know my Monty died in June. His big sister Victoria is now at the vets for tests and rehydration, she could be in kidney failure. My stomach is in knots and I am crying. Vicksie pixie is 15 and nearly blind but I love her to the end of the universe and back, please think of her.

I know this post wasn't game related but I had to tell someone.

Ugh we are all a hot mess!!!

I hope Vickie is okay!!!

And I hope Shep doesn’t have Covid

And I just got my booster and am hosting Christmas. Eek. Stressed to say the least!
Christmas is too much and I never understand why. I hope I just have a cold and am simply beaten down by the holiday season. May your stress be relieved.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 07:20 AM
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Hi everyone, as most of you know my Monty died in June. His big sister Victoria is now at the vets for tests and rehydration, she could be in kidney failure. My stomach is in knots and I am crying. Vicksie pixie is 15 and nearly blind but I love her to the end of the universe and back, please think of her.

I know this post wasn't game related but I had to tell someone.

Ugh we are all a hot mess!!!

I hope Vickie is okay!!!

And I hope Shep doesn’t have Covid

And I just got my booster and am hosting Christmas. Eek. Stressed to say the least!
Glad you got your booster and I hope you feel okay tomorrow, I felt yuck the day after I had mine
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Old 22nd December 2021, 07:20 AM
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So, Pleo's claiming, which is standard. But he's claiming he's not a doctor of any type. To my suspicious, paranoid mafia eye, that implies he may be a Godfather.

Or Town.

I'm not certain that deserves any more than the slightest FOS.
I would be a lot more suspicious if Pleo hadn't claimed at all but it is worth considering that he is a Godfather.

Here’s the thing. It’s complete wine.

Pleo could be vanilla town trying to pull a Mariah or Elf NK. Who knows. He could also be a cop and by claiming not doc is causing some confusion on his randing.

I wouldn’t take any stock in it Day 1 and let’s re-evaluate in a few days
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Old 22nd December 2021, 07:21 AM
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Hi everyone, as most of you know my Monty died in June. His big sister Victoria is now at the vets for tests and rehydration, she could be in kidney failure. My stomach is in knots and I am crying. Vicksie pixie is 15 and nearly blind but I love her to the end of the universe and back, please think of her.

I know this post wasn't game related but I had to tell someone.
You are there for her. It means so much for pets to be loved.
Thank you, we have had her since she was 5 weeks old, she is my child.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 07:23 AM
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I would be a lot more suspicious if Pleo hadn't claimed at all but it is worth considering that he is a Godfather.

Here’s the thing. It’s complete wine.

Pleo could be vanilla town trying to pull a Mariah or Elf NK. Who knows. He could also be a cop and by claiming not doc is causing some confusion on his randing.

I wouldn’t take any stock in it Day 1 and let’s re-evaluate in a few days
I agree with you, it's worth considering but not even worth a Fos.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 07:38 AM
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Poorly worded and quick- I will be at work EOD


post 44 Pleo states he is not a doc of any kind
and after the cop claim

post 97 he is 'not protecting Prof.'

as if he wanted to make certain it was noticed?

Small beans but it is what I've got right now.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 07:49 AM
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Archangel (2): Pleonast (44), Vanta Black (125)
Prof. Pepperwinkle (1): Dizzymrslizzy (12)
Annoying Christmas Singer (1): Bashorian Clement (6)
Lightfoot (1): Suburban Plankton (19)
Pleonast (1): LightFoot (157)
Thecatsmeow (1): Christmas Sock (70)
No Wrap (1): Swammerdami (121)
Mahaloth (0): Mendie Taoma (7)[8]
bashorian Clement (0): Meeko (72)[119]
Suburban Plankton (0): Vanta Black (49)[107]
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Old 22nd December 2021, 09:56 AM
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Victoria has crossed the rainbow bridge, see you all later xx
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Old 22nd December 2021, 09:56 AM
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Poorly worded and quick- I will be at work EOD


post 44 Pleo states he is not a doc of any kind
and after the cop claim

post 97 he is 'not protecting Prof.'

as if he wanted to make certain it was noticed?

Small beans but it is what I've got right now.
Okay, I won’t protect you, either, then.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 10:00 AM
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Poorly worded and quick- I will be at work EOD


post 44 Pleo states he is not a doc of any kind
and after the cop claim

post 97 he is 'not protecting Prof.'

as if he wanted to make certain it was noticed?

Small beans but it is what I've got right now.
Pleo claimed in post 44 and Prof claimed in post 92 so you haven't even got a slight case yet
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Old 22nd December 2021, 10:25 AM
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Old 22nd December 2021, 10:29 AM
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Test results negative. I do not have Covid. Just a stupid cold.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 10:30 AM
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doc s cannot self protect
I stand corrected, didn’t think to read all the roles.
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There is so much that isn't game related and my eyes just glaze over. I am beginning to think it's scum just pretending to post things.
Like active lurking? Who in particular do you think is pretending?

Congrats Archangel.

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I think you are probably Town, I don't think you would ask for a sub as scum. Prof is almost certainly Town because of his claim.
I often see the opposite being used as at argument to vote a sub, it happened to me a couple of games ago. Is this an Archangel-specific read, or a generalisation?

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So, Pleo's claiming, which is standard. But he's claiming he's not a doctor of any type. To my suspicious, paranoid mafia eye, that implies he may be a Godfather.

Or Town.
Or lying. I guess you deduce possible godfather as he excludes himself from being any other scum role?

Sorry to hear about Vicksie.

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Pleo claimed in post 44 and Prof claimed in post 92 so you haven't even got a slight case yet
I think it depends how you interpret “and after the cop claim”, I think it’s introducing the second event, as opposed to the timing of the first. It’s a slight case.

Looking back, three niggly things:
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My last post was in fun, so don't read anything into it.
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I have arrived.

vote Lightfoot
Just because.
And maybe the opposite, drive-by vote and disappears.
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very defensive there ole boy
Stating the obvious, seems out of place given the initial comment, can’t complain about Meeko still being Meeko.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 10:51 AM
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Hi everyone, as most of you know my Monty died in June. His big sister Victoria is now at the vets for tests and rehydration, she could be in kidney failure. My stomach is in knots and I am crying. Vicksie pixie is 15 and nearly blind but I love her to the end of the universe and back, please think of her.



I know this post wasn't game related but I had to tell someone.
That's awful. I hope it isn't as bad as what it could be.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 11:19 AM
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Test results negative. I do not have Covid. Just a stupid cold.
Good news.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 11:51 AM
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Archangel (2): Pleonast (44), Vanta Black (125)
Prof. Pepperwinkle (1): Dizzymrslizzy (12)
Annoying Christmas Singer (1): Bashorian Clement (6)
Lightfoot (1): Suburban Plankton (19)
Pleonast (1): LightFoot (157)
Thecatsmeow (1): Christmas Sock (70)
No Wrap (1): Swammerdami (121)
Archangel is set to be wrapped as of now. Less than 24 hours in Day 1. 8 active votes with 19 players. Should be pretty interesting.

Please spell the names in your votes correctly.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 12:27 PM
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Archangel is the one on whom I have a slight Scum lean. Meta-inference about asking for sub could go either way.



I feel better about this vote knowing that it's just for "a player to be named later."
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Old 22nd December 2021, 01:15 PM
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Old 22nd December 2021, 01:18 PM
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I am so sorry.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 01:22 PM
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Maybe we should start with “Jingle Bells”?

Jingle bells
Jingle bells
Jingle all the way!!!
I think we should play Name That Tune.

Da da-da da DA, da...

Hint: a holiday classic, jazzed up, can you name that tune in six notes?
Was this guessed it revealed? I'm going with Carol of the Bells by trans Siberian what's it.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 01:26 PM
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Archangel is the one on whom I have a slight Scum lean. Meta-inference about asking for sub could go either way.



I feel better about this vote knowing that it's just for "a player to be named later."
You. need to unvote first.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 01:26 PM
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<Goes back to check who you were actually unvoting>

Oh. Not the guy in the Metaverse.
Yeah, the guy in the Metaverse, it was kind of an allusion to the HoH game, where the same poster I voted for in this game played as Hiro Protagonist, or else I'm confused, which is possible, in which case I will look like a fool, but not for the first time.

Actually with the vote counting robot if you unvote anybody it unvotes whoever you voted. I was also kinda testing that. (Yes.)


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With two godfathers, a cop result is a little less valuable. I think docs can self-protect, so there’s some wifom for elves and Mariahs if they ever need to claim. Don’t recall what happened in HoH.
Speaking of HoH, if this is the same setup as HoH, and I think it is, the docs could not self-protect.
I know I was just failing to be clever about Hiro NOT being this game, so who were you actually unv... You know what, doesn't matter lol
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Old 22nd December 2021, 01:28 PM
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I think we should play Name That Tune.

Da da-da da DA, da...

Hint: a holiday classic, jazzed up, can you name that tune in six notes?
Was this guessed it revealed? I'm going with Carol of the Bells by trans Siberian what's it.
I'm guessing The Little Drummer Boy... Pa rumpa pum pum...
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Old 22nd December 2021, 01:29 PM
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I have a tone? Okay. Vanta always thinks I'm scum, even in the last game, on the last day when we were so close to winning it, I don't know what to do about that except die.

...
No, it's totally on me, I tend to see one thing I think looks sus early on and then, well I guess it is tunneling. What I SHOULD do is ask myself if it could also fit a town motive. I tend not to do that. But hey, I'm trying.

(I don't know if it's worth mentioning but words are cheap so I will add that until this game, for the last entire year with one exception I have always already known your alignment if we were both playing. But I did the same kind of tunneling the last game where I was just watching.)
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Old 22nd December 2021, 01:42 PM
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I think we should play Name That Tune.

Da da-da da DA, da...

Hint: a holiday classic, jazzed up, can you name that tune in six notes?
Was this guessed it revealed? I'm going with Carol of the Bells by trans Siberian what's it.
Not guessed. Not Carol of the Bells.

Furather hint: I spent many years working seasonal retail which soured me on most holiday songs, even ones I liked, such as the TransSiberian version of Carol of the Bells, that song by the Waitresses, and the heavy metal version of the Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy. This one is a little more obscure, at least in the jazz version, and if it ever got played in a mall, I didn't hear it, or at least not 10x a shift for weeks on end, so I still like it. Once a year.

My humming was probably off. I know I skipped a hyphen, I corrected that somewhere, it should be "Da da-da-da DA, da"
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Old 22nd December 2021, 01:44 PM
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Was this guessed it revealed? I'm going with Carol of the Bells by trans Siberian what's it.
I'm guessing The Little Drummer Boy... Pa rumpa pum pum...
Nope! No one is going to guess this!

But see my reply to raventhief for further hint.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 02:49 PM
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I'm guessing The Little Drummer Boy... Pa rumpa pum pum...
Nope! No one is going to guess this!

But see my reply to raventhief for further hint.
Sleigh Ride.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 04:33 PM
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because I think their explanation of why they voted TCM was overly defensive.

(I still need a sub, but I’ll try to play until they show up.)
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Old 22nd December 2021, 07:15 PM
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Old 22nd December 2021, 07:36 PM
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Hey, congrats on failing your test. Hope you are feeling better, if not now then soon.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 07:53 PM
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I still am kind of out of it, but greatly relieved. Everything I have read about Omicron says the symptoms mimic the common cold. Cases are rising all around here and I have been working overtime since Thanksgiving to keep up with the holiday madness. I think exhaustion plus anxiety plus many unmasked harried customers took its toll. Something had to give.

I feel bad because I know the store has been understaffed, and my missing the last two days has made others work even more overtime. But even if I still feel lousy tomorrow I can take over-the-counter medicine and muddle through without a fear of infecting others with Covid. And there are two more rough pre-Xmas days to get past.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 08:06 PM
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My humming was probably off. I know I skipped a hyphen, I corrected that somewhere, it should be "Da da-da-da DA, da"
When I try to hum this, all the Da's and da's come out the same pitch.

I'll take "Classical tunes with first 12 notes the same pitch" for $100, Alec. What's the name of the tune that goes something like
G g g g G G . G g g G .
G g a B B . B b b B
F f g A A . E e f G G
D d d D D. D e f# G
I don't think I've heard the tune since the 20th century (and it probably isn't a Christmas song) but it must be VERY famous, or else there's no way it would have stuck in my brain.

If anyone can identify the tune I'm thinking of from the above — which doubtless has a few notes wrong — I'll promise to Unvote you three times and gift you five books of your choice from the collection listed at Gutenberg.Org.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 08:18 PM
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My humming was probably off. I know I skipped a hyphen, I corrected that somewhere, it should be "Da da-da-da DA, da"
When I try to hum this, all the Da's and da's come out the same pitch.

I'll take "Classical tunes with first 12 notes the same pitch" for $100, Alec. What's the name of the tune that goes something like
G g g g G G . G g g G .
G g a B B . B b b B
F f g A A . E e f G G
D d d D D. D e f# G
I don't think I've heard the tune since the 20th century (and it probably isn't a Christmas song) but it must be VERY famous, or else there's no way it would have stuck in my brain.

If anyone can identify the tune I'm thinking of from the above — which doubtless has a few notes wrong — I'll promise to Unvote you three times and gift you five books of your choice from the collection listed at Gutenberg.Org.
Is it this one? Beethoven's 7th symphony, movement 2 (Allegretto)
It starts very soft, gets louder. I think the people who do classical recordings are just messing with the unwashed public that doesn't go hear them in person.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 08:28 PM
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Old 22nd December 2021, 08:31 PM
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Take care of yourself! Good luck on getting through the next two days and I hope you get a vacation after all that.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 11:24 PM
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doc s cannot self protect
I stand corrected, didn’t think to read all the roles.
Like active lurking? Who in particular do you think is pretending?

Congrats Archangel.

I often see the opposite being used as at argument to vote a sub, it happened to me a couple of games ago. Is this an Archangel-specific read, or a generalisation?

Or lying. I guess you deduce possible godfather as he excludes himself from being any other scum role?

Sorry to hear about Vicksie.

I think it depends how you interpret “and after the cop claim”, I think it’s introducing the second event, as opposed to the timing of the first. It’s a slight case.

Looking back, three niggly things:
Reads as overly concerned.
And maybe the opposite, drive-by vote and disappears.
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very defensive there ole boy
Stating the obvious, seems out of place given the initial comment, can’t complain about Meeko still being Meeko.
It was specifically about Archangel, I just don't see her letting her scum team down at all and she has a lot of fun being scum. Of course she could be scum but that is just my impression.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 11:27 PM
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I have a tone? Okay. Vanta always thinks I'm scum, even in the last game, on the last day when we were so close to winning it, I don't know what to do about that except die.

...
No, it's totally on me, I tend to see one thing I think looks sus early on and then, well I guess it is tunneling. What I SHOULD do is ask myself if it could also fit a town motive. I tend not to do that. But hey, I'm trying.

(I don't know if it's worth mentioning but words are cheap so I will add that until this game, for the last entire year with one exception I have always already known your alignment if we were both playing. But I did the same kind of tunneling the last game where I was just watching.)
You are forgiven, I tend to do the same thing.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 11:29 PM
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I still am kind of out of it, but greatly relieved. Everything I have read about Omicron says the symptoms mimic the common cold. Cases are rising all around here and I have been working overtime since Thanksgiving to keep up with the holiday madness. I think exhaustion plus anxiety plus many unmasked harried customers took its toll. Something had to give.

I feel bad because I know the store has been understaffed, and my missing the last two days has made others work even more overtime. But even if I still feel lousy tomorrow I can take over-the-counter medicine and muddle through without a fear of infecting others with Covid. And there are two more rough pre-Xmas days to get past.
Glad you are covid free, you still have to look after yourself though.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 11:32 PM
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Thanks for your kind words everyone.

I am going to look at the cases for AA, I just don't see it at the moment.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 11:41 PM
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Right then, Pleo voted for AA for her very first post, which was about not understanding anything that was being said. Vanta vote her for a feeling and because AA already had a vote on her and Swammi voted her because of a slight scum lean. There doesn't seem to be anything compelling there.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 11:48 PM
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Swammi has voted for no wrap and then for Archangel without unvoting. He probably forgot to unvote but he was accused of pushing for no wrap so he should have noticed that he had voted for it. Swammi's other posts have just been light-hearted.



I also hope this answers guiri's question as to who I think is actively lurking.
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It was specifically about Archangel, I just don't see her letting her scum team down at all and she has a lot of fun being scum. Of course she could be scum but that is just my impression.
This really bothers me - you are basically saying that because someone/AA asked for sub they must be town. Indeed, the only way you could say that for certain is that AA is on the same team as you.

A sub is unlikely to be forthcoming over xmas, and I'd rather wrap someone who isn't able to play than someone who is. Plus how AA flips will shed some light on Jan's comment above

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If anyone can identify the tune I'm thinking of from the above — which doubtless has a few notes wrong — I'll promise to Unvote you three times and gift you five books of your choice from the collection listed at Gutenberg.Org.
Is it this one? Beethoven's 7th symphony, movement 2 (Allegretto)
It starts very soft, gets louder. I think the people who do classical recordings are just messing with the unwashed public that doesn't go hear them in person.
Bravo, Vanta! I was curious enough to click to one of the "Type a melody and we'll find your tune" sites AND another message-board. No luck whatsdoever. But YOU got it right away. Kudos.

I'll begin to fulfill my promises:

You cen reveal your book choices publicly, or confidentially at the Gutenberg.org site: Up to you.
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Old 23rd December 2021, 04:10 AM
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I'll repeat my vote on Angel. Very weak case, but the best I see (ignoring the OMGUS case against Jan! )


And wrapping her has the meta-advantage of NOT depleting our pool of substitutes.
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Old 23rd December 2021, 05:07 AM
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Deck the halls with balls of holly
Fa-La-La-La. La-La-La-La

SilverJan- sorry for your loss
Archangel- congratulations on selling your house
Shepard- get better soon!
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Old 23rd December 2021, 05:09 AM
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Archangel (4): Pleonast (44), Vanta Black (125), BillMc (193), Swammerdami (195)
Swammerdami (1): Silverjan (192)
Prof. Pepperwinkle (1): Dizzymrslizzy (12)
Annoying Christmas Singer (1): Bashorian Clement (6)
Lightfoot (1): Suburban Plankton (19)
Christmas Sock (1): Archangel (179)
Pleonast (1): LightFoot (157)
Thecatsmeow (1): Christmas Sock (70)
Archangel is about to be wrapped up if nothing changes. 11 active votes with 19 players. I don't mind last minute stuff when I am modding, but please make sure your votes are spelled correctly and showing up in the vote counter.

You have: just under 6 hours left.
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Old 23rd December 2021, 05:11 AM
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‘Tis the season to be jolly
Fa-La-La-La. La-La-La-La

But someone is not being jolly. All of my posts have contained songs, or been about songs, Vanta Black. Or is it that you’re a Scrouge?

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Old 23rd December 2021, 05:38 AM
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So sorry to hear this.

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Victoria has crossed the rainbow bridge, see you all later xx
That's great news! As someone who works in a company that administers vaccines and swab tests I've seen too many positive results. A negative is always welcome.

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Test results negative. I do not have Covid. Just a stupid cold.
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Old 23rd December 2021, 05:50 AM
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Nah. Just discussing my thought process. I actually wanted to start a train to match yours to see reactions but it seems it's too late.

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because I think their explanation of why they voted TCM was overly defensive.

(I still need a sub, but I’ll try to play until they show up.)
That said,



First wants to have no wrap then takes the easy route and votes Archangel. Doesn't sit well with me.

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