Yeetmas 3 - Day 1: The War for Relevancy Begins

[Prof. Pepperwinkle]

We're all with you, Jan. So sorry for your loss.

Great news, Shepherd Boy! Still, take care of yourself.

The vamp to Santa Claus Is Coming To Town???

Under six hours to go. The choices appear to be Angel, Swammi or come up with a case on somebody else. I'll be back.

[Prof. Pepperwinkle]

'cause of that odd bit when he claimed. It's not much, I grant you, but I don't see a case on Angel or Swammi either.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Okay, I won’t protect you, either, then.

since you claim unable to protect anyone it is a moot point isn't it.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Silverjan

Pleo claimed in post 44 and Prof claimed in post 92 so you haven't even got a slight case yet

You just repeated what I said.
and push it under the rug?

elaborate

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by guiri

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I think it depends how you interpret “and after the cop claim”, I think it’s introducing the second event, as opposed to the timing of the first. It’s a slight case.

You read me correctly ( unusual but it happens)

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Annoying Christmas Singer

Deck the halls with balls of holly
Fa-La-La-La. La-La-La-La

SilverJan- sorry for your loss
Archangel- congratulations on selling your house
Shepard- get better soon!

Not balls

[Mordenkainen]

Evening all.

Having perused the thread, it wandered a bit (some of the blame being laid at my door).

I've just been through the thread, and the oddest thing I have seen is Swammerdami's pseudo-votes for Archangel; both of them.

They are pseudo-votes because, although apparently proper, he has not repealed his vote for No Wrap. This is (iirc) not a game featuring multivotes; therefore he is still voting No Wrap.

If this is a simple error, it's probably a Town mark against him. If it's trying to obfuscate his true vote, well that will soon be seen when Day ends.

On the other hand, my hindbrain is screaming "that's odd and odd is suspicious" and urging me to vote Swammi. I think that ir is probably better to wait and see how Today's vote turns out.

I'm going to



for now, as it will be easier to eliminate her than try and find a sub less than two days before Christmas.

[A Poor Shepherd Boy]

Originally Posted by Prof. Pepperwinkle

'cause of that odd bit when he claimed. It's not much, I grant you, but I don't see a case on Angel or Swammi either.

What I think Pleo is really saying is when he says he is "Not a doc of any type" is that he would always be investigated as "Town." All four Scum roles that can be investigated with accurate results are also types of docs.

Whether Pleo would make such a claim as Scum and then keep pointing to it (to the exclusion of anything else) is less clear.

[A Poor Shepherd Boy]

Originally Posted by Mordenkainen

Evening all.

Having perused the thread, it wandered a bit (some of the blame being laid at my door).

I've just been through the thread, and the oddest thing I have seen is Swammerdami's pseudo-votes for Archangel; both of them.

They are pseudo-votes because, although apparently proper, he has not repealed his vote for No Wrap. This is (iirc) not a game featuring multivotes; therefore he is still voting No Wrap.

If this is a simple error, it's probably a Town mark against him. If it's trying to obfuscate his true vote, well that will soon be seen when Day ends.

On the other hand, my hindbrain is screaming "that's odd and odd is suspicious" and urging me to vote Swammi. I think that ir is probably better to wait and see how Today's vote turns out.

I'm going to



for now, as it will be easier to eliminate her than try and find a sub less than two days before Christmas.

In the mod vote counts Swammerdami is credited with voting Archangel.

[Mahaloth]

Here is the full and current vote counter including deleted votes. Please feel free to check for accuracy.

I did see the "no wrap" vote, but it was removed? And then a valid vote was placed after that?

Originally Posted by Vote Counting Robot

Archangel (5): Pleonast (44), Vanta Black (125), BillMc (193), Swammerdami (195), Mordenkainen (207)
Swammerdami (2): Silverjan (192), Christmas Sock (200)
Pleonast (2): LightFoot (157), Prof. Pepperwinkle (202)
Prof. Pepperwinkle (1): Dizzymrslizzy (12)
Annoying Christmas Singer (1): Bashorian Clement (6)
Lightfoot (1): Suburban Plankton (19)
Vanta Black (1): Annoying Christmas Singer (198)
Christmas Sock (1): Archangel (179)
Mahaloth (0): Mendie Taoma (7)[8]
bashorian Clement (0): Meeko (72)[119]
Thecatsmeow (0): Christmas Sock (70)[200]
No Wrap (0): Swammerdami (121)[194]
Suburban Plankton (0): Vanta Black (49)[107]

[Prof. Pepperwinkle]

Under 2 hours to go and 5 haven't voted. And Dizzy's vote was (I believe) a joke vote.

[Silverjan]

If AA is scum then I will look very foolish indeed.

[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

You just repeated what I said.
and push it under the rug?

elaborate

You said that Pleo claimed after the cop (Prof P) claimed and that was wrong. Pleo claimed first and then Prof.

[A Poor Shepherd Boy]

I don't see any over-the-top play I associate with Scum Archangel. And if she is Town she is a good Scum hunter.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Silverjan

It was specifically about Archangel, I just don't see her letting her scum team down at all and she has a lot of fun being scum. Of course she could be scum but that is just my impression.

The argument is usually the opposite, but I don’t have this meta on her.

Originally Posted by Mordenkainen

Evening all.

Having perused the thread, it wandered a bit (some of the blame being laid at my door).

I've just been through the thread, and the oddest thing I have seen is Swammerdami's pseudo-votes for Archangel; both of them.

They are pseudo-votes because, although apparently proper, he has not repealed his vote for No Wrap. This is (iirc) not a game featuring multivotes; therefore he is still voting No Wrap.

If this is a simple error, it's probably a Town mark against him. If it's trying to obfuscate his true vote, well that will soon be seen when Day ends.

On the other hand, my hindbrain is screaming "that's odd and odd is suspicious" and urging me to vote Swammi. I think that ir is probably better to wait and see how Today's vote turns out.

I'm going to



for now, as it will be easier to eliminate her than try and find a sub less than two days before Christmas.

Don’t know if this is a sock or a regular player, but I dislike this, especially the “let’s wait and see” on the person he finds suspicious but hop on the bandwagon bit, definitely vote-worthy.



I’ve no objection to an Archangel lynch, if only for her initial woe-is-me vote, I don’t share the concern about not finding a sub though, any townie who dies over this and the next cycle could jump in and take her place.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by A Poor Shepherd Boy

I don't see any over-the-top play I associate with Scum Archangel. And if she is Town she is a good Scum hunter.

I had to read this five times to make sense of the vote and the reasoning…

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Silverjan

You said that Pleo claimed after the cop (Prof P) claimed and that was wrong. Pleo claimed first and then Prof.

It just depends on how you read her post, maybe try adding punctuation:
“Post 44, Pleo states he is not a doc of any kind

And, after the cop claim:

Post 97, he is 'not protecting Prof.'”
YMMV

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Silverjan

Swammi has voted for no wrap and then for Archangel without unvoting. He probably forgot to unvote but he was accused of pushing for no wrap so he should have noticed that he had voted for it. Swammi's other posts have just been light-hearted.



I also hope this answers guiri's question as to who I think is actively lurking.

It answers my question.

I just don’t get the pseudo-vote argument, do you think Swammi was just pretending to vote Archangel, presumably for town-cred or to sort-of join a bandwagon without actually joining one, is that the scum motivation for not unvoting?

[Archangel]

Originally Posted by guiri

The argument is usually the opposite, but I don’t have this meta on her.

Don’t know if this is a sock or a regular player, but I dislike this, especially the “let’s wait and see” on the person he finds suspicious but hop on the bandwagon bit, definitely vote-worthy.



I’ve no objection to an Archangel lynch, if only for her initial woe-is-me vote, I don’t share the concern about not finding a sub though, any townie who dies over this and the next cycle could jump in and take her place.

Do you mean “woe is me” post? I have only made one vote and I gave a reason for it.

[Archangel]

I agree that the vote from Mordenkainen on me looks terrible. Pleonast voting me like this is usually town from him. I still think Vanta and Swammi are town though I wish the latter would explain why he thinks I’m scum. Bill’s vote on me feels NAI, it could go either way.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Archangel

Do you mean “woe is me” post? I have only made one vote and I gave a reason for it.

I meant post, sorry.

[Prof. Pepperwinkle]

Merry Christmas, Angel! Good luck with the move!

[raventhief]

Fuck I missed end of day? I just got off work!

I'm so sorry.

[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by guiri

It answers my question.

I just don’t get the pseudo-vote argument, do you think Swammi was just pretending to vote Archangel, presumably for town-cred or to sort-of join a bandwagon without actually joining one, is that the scum motivation for not unvoting?

I think Swammi was trying to stay a bit under the radar, just go and have a look at his posts , I would like your input on them.

[Archangel]

Originally Posted by Prof. Pepperwinkle

Merry Christmas, Angel! Good luck with the move!

Thank you! Sorry I was unable to contribute much but this has been a tremendously stressful month with (now) what looks to be a happy ending.

[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by Archangel

Thank you! Sorry I was unable to contribute much but this has been a tremendously stressful month with (now) what looks to be a happy ending.

I wish you all the best and hope you have a lovely life in your new place, wherever that may be xxx

P.S. If you are scum, well....... I still wish you happiness xxxx

[Bashorian Clement]

Originally Posted by Archangel

Good morning. My reads are that Vanta Black, Swammerdami, and Silverjan are probably Town. Don’t have anything on anyone else.

I’m going to need to ask for a sub, my house has been for sale for months and I finally got an offer last night but have nowhere to move.

Merry Christmas, happy holidays, and happy New Year.

Mahaloth, I apologize but I need a sub please.

ArchAngel is wily enough to stay away from the Rule of Three, but since Swammi flipped town, this reinforces my Vanta Black vote.