Vegas Mafia Day One

[Precambrianmollusc]

Right then



Defensive, well I was just asking if a post from another game was a bit OTT and I assumed Guri was giving me a humorous poke about it.

On my posting , yes I was pretty vocal in the last game ,and the prior one, but for the record I was embarrassingly absent on Day 1 of Margaritaville and even missed voting D1

So on Guri, he gave some explanations about why he thought Gnarly could be scum for missing the plural in our wincon, but did not mention that gnarly could have missed it because he is town and just missed it. Excluding that obvious condition seems like a manufactured case to me.

Texcats vote with minimal reason also is sus, but it could just be they were getting some votes and reaction out there, rapid bad votes on day one are not really much of a tell of anything.

Maha claiming VT , well no doubt mafia buffs have theories about that , does it give scum a smaller pool to hunt for any of our power roles in, what happens if he is a power role and claims later, then we get the whole ‘he lied’ problem. I don’t see a problem with his asking about gambling mechanics and game set up.

Meeko seems like he is just protecting a IRL friend (Kaiveran)from the various pokes etc , I don’t have much of a sense either way, I probably need to read the posts in more detail

Kaiveran pinged me with their request for everyone to pos some gut reactions . are they trying to set themselves as a town leader, or getting some get reactions that they can pile in on later. OK they could town getting discussions going, and my suspicion is unreasonable but as the saying goes , no good deed will go unpunished !

Archangel is poking at Kairveran , I don’t see anything sus in trying to know if they have met in other games or forums, I gather there is quite a bit of fluidity between forums so it is not unreasonable to ask ‘have we met before’



For now , because of post 40, where Guri seems to exclude town not spotting the plural, also a town person is unlikely to even look at the sample VT role, because we may already have it in our own PMs, so why would Guri reference that as the primary method as to why they should have spotted the plural, because that is where Guri saw it?







Duncan

[guiri]

Originally Posted by guiri

Aw, that’s sweet. What’s your wincon then?

Meh, the very first reply I made asked him about his own wincon.

[Mordenkainen]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Where is there a 7

I count 5 max

Silverjan mixed two posts up.

Archangel was referring to post 124, in which she made four points, but the last two are numbered 3.

Silverjan thought AA was referring to post 128, which is a list of players, missing number 7 (AA is player 7).

Six hours to go.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Precambrianmollusc

Right then



Defensive, well I was just asking if a post from another game was a bit OTT and I assumed Guri was giving me a humorous poke about it.

On my posting , yes I was pretty vocal in the last game ,and the prior one, but for the record I was embarrassingly absent on Day 1 of Margaritaville and even missed voting D1

So on Guri, he gave some explanations about why he thought Gnarly could be scum for missing the plural in our wincon, but did not mention that gnarly could have missed it because he is town and just missed it. Excluding that obvious condition seems like a manufactured case to me.

Texcats vote with minimal reason also is sus, but it could just be they were getting some votes and reaction out there, rapid bad votes on day one are not really much of a tell of anything.

Maha claiming VT , well no doubt mafia buffs have theories about that , does it give scum a smaller pool to hunt for any of our power roles in, what happens if he is a power role and claims later, then we get the whole ‘he lied’ problem. I don’t see a problem with his asking about gambling mechanics and game set up.

Meeko seems like he is just protecting a IRL friend (Kaiveran)from the various pokes etc , I don’t have much of a sense either way, I probably need to read the posts in more detail

Kaiveran pinged me with their request for everyone to pos some gut reactions . are they trying to set themselves as a town leader, or getting some get reactions that they can pile in on later. OK they could town getting discussions going, and my suspicion is unreasonable but as the saying goes , no good deed will go unpunished !

Archangel is poking at Kairveran , I don’t see anything sus in trying to know if they have met in other games or forums, I gather there is quite a bit of fluidity between forums so it is not unreasonable to ask ‘have we met before’



For now , because of post 40, where Guri seems to exclude town not spotting the plural, also a town person is unlikely to even look at the sample VT role, because we may already have it in our own PMs, so why would Guri reference that as the primary method as to why they should have spotted the plural, because that is where Guri saw it?







Duncan

Thus post is all sorts of wrong… almost twtbaw.

Who’s Duncan and why’s he signing your posts?

[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by Archangel

I have zero data. I have voted him many times for lurking and it turned out he just didn't have internet connection. So his lack of participation in particular is a null tell, but I'm glad he joined us and I want to give him time because he's a good scum hunter.

I know he made one post, I'm catching up now and have stuff to post from before but then I'll look at his post and see if I get anything from it.

I know gnarly isn't a prolific poster but his only post was a vote on guiri for something that didn't make sense. I wish I was better at trying to persuade people.

[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by TexCat

I thought it was obvious that I agreed that it is what scum would say.




The above 2 posts were made back to back. I didn't like the claim, and the question seemed a little disingenuous. Seemed like scum trying hard to me.

And the above two posts re-inforced my view with their defensiveness.

Texcat, it was an attempt at humour

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Precambrianmollusc

For now , because of post 40, where Guri seems to exclude town not spotting the plural, also a town person is unlikely to even look at the sample VT role, because we may already have it in our own PMs, so why would Guri reference that as the primary method as to why they should have spotted the plural, because that is where Guri saw it?

Duncan, maybe you could re-read Gnarly’s post and then come back to me.

[Precambrianmollusc]

Ahh crap I typed that up on my work email as it is easier than the phone then emailed to my personal phone, and I seem to have left part of my signature on there ,
Well not sure that would out me in real life but could people get back to calling me PCM or fuckwit or whatever.

[Precambrianmollusc]

What is twtbaw ?

[Mordenkainen]

Bashorian.

He had a short burst of activity, in which he probed but hasn't come back to respond to the answers. One was querying about an oog comment from me, since explained.

I have a slightly uneasy feel about BC, but I can't find a reason other than low participation; but not only is low participation a null tell, but it would be inconsistent of me to vote anyone on those grounds in the early game since I refused to in other games. Also some people line up to accuse me on the grounds of low participation; usually wrongly. (My early game is about the same whatever my alignment.)

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Precambrianmollusc

What is twtbaw ?

Too Wolfy to be a wolf… like why would a wolf misrepresent actual vote reasoning and posts to make a reads list that can so quickly and easily be debunked. You explained the punctuation over two posts, not just to me. In the post Gnarly was reacting to, I’d quoted the sample Vanilla Town role PM and he said there was no mention of third parties in the rules or color, so the only place he might not have looked is his own role PM, hence my response. Texcat’s vote is sus, but early D1 votes with bad reasoning are NAI, so Texcat’s vote is not sus, really? Meeko and Kaiverian are not IRL friends, just both Bronies. Kaiverian’s question is sus, but good for town, so not sus, squirm much? Archangel did not ask if they’d played before, she specifically asked Kaiverian if she knew him. Almost TWTBAW.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Mordenkainen

Bashorian.

He had a short burst of activity, in which he probed but hasn't come back to respond to the answers. One was querying about an oog comment from me, since explained.

I have a slightly uneasy feel about BC, but I can't find a reason other than low participation; but not only is low participation a null tell, but it would be inconsistent of me to vote anyone on those grounds in the early game since I refused to in other games. Also some people line up to accuse me on the grounds of low participation; usually wrongly. (My early game is about the same whatever my alignment.)

Why are you worried about looking inconsistent?

[Precambrianmollusc]

Originally Posted by gnarlycharlie

PM received.

because I missed him and he because he mentions 3rd parties when there's no mention of any in the rules or color.

Sure , he pointed that you seemd to have more information.
Yes as scum he may have missed the plural in the VT post. I missed the plural as did apparently Colby

What I found suspicious of you was that you did not really provide any alternatives other than must be scum. I have no idea what gnarliy is , but can see there are multiple possibilities
I also find it odd that you seemd to suggest that a town gnarly could have read the VT posting and seen the plural, but as a town I didnt even read it as I have a town wincon. You seemed to think the only place gnarly would have seen the wincon was in the VT post, which makes me think that's the only place you saw it.

[gnarlycharlie]

Originally Posted by Kaiveran

Rrawrf. Was worried I'd spent too much time away and was expecting a small novella with multiple subplots to pore through by now. Maybe I've just been spending too much time with no-lifers



<plus the little rigmarole after it, of course>

Like, despite how wrong-headed this is I kinda really like it?

From his very first post of the game, charlie is not only trying to get a first guess out there pronto, but basing it specifically on digging for instances of people having TMI. That's gotta be worth some town points.

Welcome! Always nice to have new players. Broadens horizons in playstyle and mindsets. You'll find play here is more laid back and discussions can be long and convoluted due to the length of Day.

I'll answer comments to my vote here. I often vote early and usually for the most trivial of things in D1. I like to see reactions from different players, not only the one I voted for. Perhaps nothing stands out but gets clearer in succeeding Days.

That said, I'm interested why guiri assumed that anti-town forces necessarily means there are third parties. There could be two scum teams or the mod simply used the word to mean there are more than one scum. I could be on to something or I may not. There wasn't much discussion so it appears enough players think there are 3rd parties not to find guiri's comment unusual.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Precambrianmollusc

Sure , he pointed that you seemd to have more information.
Yes as scum he may have missed the plural in the VT post. I missed the plural as did apparently Colby

I asked you to go back because he was replying to my comment on a post where I quoted the VT role PM:

Originally Posted by guiri

With 14 players, maybe 3 scum and one third party.
Not much else to go on from the color or rules.

What I found suspicious of you was that you did not really provide any alternatives other than must be scum. I have no idea what gnarliy is , but can see there are multiple possibilities

Also demonstrably false:

Originally Posted by guiri

Gnarly is unlikely 3P but could be scum if there’s no mention of other anti-town forces in his wincon. I don’t give townie points for an erroneous gotcha vote, no matter how early, both Gnarly and Colby had access to the sample VT role PM and wincon.

And if I was sure he was scum, and had actually made a case against him, that’s where my vote would be, but I’m not, and have not, so it’s not.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by gnarlycharlie

That said, I'm interested why guiri assumed that anti-town forces necessarily means there are third parties. There could be two scum teams or the mod simply used the word to mean there are more than one scum. I could be on to something or I may not. There wasn't much discussion so it appears enough players think there are 3rd parties not to find guiri's comment unusual.

Necessarily? This is exactly what I said: “ With 14 players, maybe 3 scum and one third party.” and “ I was the first to bring up the possibility of third parties in the game”.

It would be fun to think we got two squirming scum red-handed with this, seems too easy for 14 posts into the game, but worth coming back to.

[Mordenkainen]

Originally Posted by guiri

Why are you worried about looking inconsistent?

Inconsistent may have been a poor choice of words.

The central thrust is that if I normally say "I won't vote Player X just because they haven't posted much" about a player, then when I do vote for a player because of low postcount, the question "what's different this time?" arises. If there is no real (or obvious) difference and I can't explain why I acted differently, I would rightly be suspect. Especially since I have already declined to vote others for low postcount in this game.

For some reason, BC's posts are nudging at me. The only reason I can articulate is low postcount, and my position on that is in the early game low postcount is a null tell. So I will not vote him this time.

[Bashorian Clement]

I'm confused. Who are the two scum you may have caught, guiri?

[gnarlycharlie]

Currently, I have a few reads.

Meeko is being Meeko at least, Town Meeko. Like AA, I use meta at times. Meeko is quite verbose when Town. I recall he hates playing scum and his playstyle changes. Of course he may have changed after all these years. I haven't been around much.

Silverjan despite her vote on me, I feel is Town. Again meta or gut, however you want to call it.

Most others I can't say one way or the other.

However, I wouldn't be opposed to Vanta Black going toDay. It feels like he (?) is posting to show activity. There are questions but it seems they are to no end.

By the way, as you know I haven't been around. Are we no longer allowed to use the word 'lynch?'

[Archangel]

Originally Posted by guiri

Too Wolfy to be a wolf… like why would a wolf misrepresent actual vote reasoning and posts to make a reads list that can so quickly and easily be debunked. You explained the punctuation over two posts, not just to me. In the post Gnarly was reacting to, I’d quoted the sample Vanilla Town role PM and he said there was no mention of third parties in the rules or color, so the only place he might not have looked is his own role PM, hence my response. Texcat’s vote is sus, but early D1 votes with bad reasoning are NAI, so Texcat’s vote is not sus, really? Meeko and Kaiverian are not IRL friends, just both Bronies. Kaiverian’s question is sus, but good for town, so not sus, squirm much? Archangel did not ask if they’d played before, she specifically asked Kaiverian if she knew him. Almost TWTBAW.

Yeah, I'm just getting busy and overwhelmed from this post. I actually feel better about him after it.

[gnarlycharlie]

Originally Posted by guiri

Necessarily? This is exactly what I said: “ With 14 players, maybe 3 scum and one third party.” and “ I was the first to bring up the possibility of third parties in the game”.

It would be fun to think we got two squirming scum red-handed with this, seems too easy for 14 posts into the game, but worth coming back to.

I don't understand your logic. You did bring up the idea of a 3rd party first. Now you're wondering why I'm questioning it? Why is your first thought that there are 3rd parties when it could have been the other possibilities I've mentioned? To repeat, those are that there may be two scum teams or the mod was merely meant that there are more than one scum.

[Archangel]

Originally Posted by guiri

Necessarily? This is exactly what I said: “ With 14 players, maybe 3 scum and one third party.” and “ I was the first to bring up the possibility of third parties in the game”.

It would be fun to think we got two squirming scum red-handed with this, seems too easy for 14 posts into the game, but worth coming back to.

Who are you referring to besides Gnarlycharlie here? PCM?

[Vanta Black]

Originally Posted by Archangel

Still suspicious of him but his absence at least seems to be real, not lurking.



I'm not scum and I prefer him over TexCat. I don't believe that he thinks the scum team is exactly TexCat and I.

Well, it's a guessing game. This is a guess. Based on (1) your questions to Kaiveran, which looked like they were supposed to look like scum hunting, and (2) TexCat's quick me-too vote on Mahaloth.

I don't understand why you thought Kaiveran's writing style was scummy. A lot of players reply with multiquote, it's not alien or anything. Thinking he might be an alt seemed really disingenuous which is something I see more in scum than town. As he only had like three posts at the time it was trivially easy to see that his first couple of posts were in connection with askthepizzaguy's mafia guide and indicated both that he had read the guide and that he knew/followed pizza in a MU game, that's kind of a lot of information already.

[Archangel]

Originally Posted by gnarlycharlie

Currently, I have a few reads.

Meeko is being Meeko at least, Town Meeko. Like AA, I use meta at times. Meeko is quite verbose when Town. I recall he hates playing scum and his playstyle changes. Of course he may have changed after all these years. I haven't been around much.

Silverjan despite her vote on me, I feel is Town. Again meta or gut, however you want to call it.

Most others I can't say one way or the other.

However, I wouldn't be opposed to Vanta Black going toDay. It feels like he (?) is posting to show activity. There are questions but it seems they are to no end.

By the way, as you know I haven't been around. Are we no longer allowed to use the word 'lynch?'

We have voluntarily given up that word because a lot of the players are in the US and it has a particularly pernicious meaning here.

We have not come up with a universal replacement because we cannot agree on one, so each game has used a different version that suits its theme.

We have seemed to adopt the word "mizzle" across the board for the circumstances where town gets voted out.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Archangel

Who are you referring to besides Gnarlycharlie here? PCM?

Yes, but as I say, seems far too easy, so parking that idea for now.

[gnarlycharlie]

Originally Posted by Archangel

We have voluntarily given up that word because a lot of the players are in the US and it has a particularly pernicious meaning here.

We have not come up with a universal replacement because we cannot agree on one, so each game has used a different version that suits its theme.

We have seemed to adopt the word "mizzle" across the board for the circumstances where town gets voted out.

That's what I figured. It's getting more and more polarized in the US. Lynching does remind us of the dark moments in history distant and recent.

[Archangel]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

Well, it's a guessing game. This is a guess. Based on (1) your questions to Kaiveran, which looked like they were supposed to look like scum hunting, and (2) TexCat's quick me-too vote on Mahaloth.

I don't understand why you thought Kaiveran's writing style was scummy. A lot of players reply with multiquote, it's not alien or anything. Thinking he might be an alt seemed really disingenuous which is something I see more in scum than town. As he only had like three posts at the time it was trivially easy to see that his first couple of posts were in connection with askthepizzaguy's mafia guide and indicated both that he had read the guide and that he knew/followed pizza in a MU game, that's kind of a lot of information already.

My comments about his writing style have nothing to do with the multiquotes. I'm talking about his writing voice.

The only relevance the multiquotes have are that they answered my question. What I found scummy about his writing style was the tone.

I am not sure if you are misreading every single thing I say or moving the goalposts. (OOG: I'm not trying to personally attack you, I get frustrated because, well, people misunderstand every single thing I say.)

I like part of your last paragraph and hate part of it:

The part I like is following "trivially easy." I have very bad ADHD and I often read posts chronologically backwards.

I missed everything you're talking about there and I do that as town or scum, but I can see why you would find my question scummy if you didn't know that.

The part I hate is that you're now saying thinking he might be an alt seemed disingenuous. That would be okay (see the part I like) because I missed all that information, if it was there I can see why you thought I didn't really care about my answer.

But it's not okay because all along you've been saying it bothered you because you thought I was asking if I played with him before.

Now you're saying it's because asking if it was an alt account is disingenuous. That feels like moving the goalposts.

[Vanta Black]

Ugh, we don't use lynch because apparently we are all oversensitive little pussies and don't see how a word can be bad in one context and acceptable in another. Like IRL if I ever called someone a "scumbag" it would mean I thought very little of that person and...I just wouldn't do it. But in Mafia I think it's fine.

But I could be oversensitive myself as Lynch is a family name, and we're not changing it!

I do wish someone would introduce "mizzle" to other communities. MU is going crazy looking for the right term for "misexecute." (Maybe they have, I had only a brief foray into the champs discord, but I saw a lot of really awkward workarounds.)

[guiri]

Originally Posted by gnarlycharlie

I don't understand your logic. You did bring up the idea of a 3rd party first. Now you're wondering why I'm questioning it? Why is your first thought that there are 3rd parties when it could have been the other possibilities I've mentioned? To repeat, those are that there may be two scum teams or the mod was merely meant that there are more than one scum.

I questioned you after your vote, you’ve still not replied. Let’s talk a walk back in time, shall we?
- I quote the VT role PM and make a suggestion about possible game setup with 3 scum and a third party, PCM says it seems reasonable.
- you jump on that, say there’s no mention of third parties in the rules or color and vote me, presumably for PIS
- I ask you what your wincon says
- I point out where the wincon allows for multiple forces, not just scum
- you disappear for a number of Days
- in my reads list I mention you, and Colby, for not being aware that there is a possibility of third parties based on the publicly available VT wincon
- you return from your gambling spree empty handed except an accusation that I assumed there were third parties in the game and not two scum teams, which seems a massive stretch to me but sure, I’m open to the possibility, just like I’m open to the possibility that there’s a third party, but have never stated this as fact. I do not consider “forces” to mean players and will happily die on that sword. Reach much?

[Archangel]

For everyone else:

If you knew I were town, would you be more or less suspicious of Vanta right now?

I'm going back and forth on whether I want to unvote him, because usually when we get into these snits we're both town.

[Vanta Black]

Originally Posted by Archangel

My comments about his writing style have nothing to do with the multiquotes. I'm talking about his writing voice.

The only relevance the multiquotes have are that they answered my question. What I found scummy about his writing style was the tone.

I am not sure if you are misreading every single thing I say or moving the goalposts. (OOG: I'm not trying to personally attack you, I get frustrated because, well, people misunderstand every single thing I say.)

I like part of your last paragraph and hate part of it:

The part I like is following "trivially easy." I have very bad ADHD and I often read posts chronologically backwards.

I missed everything you're talking about there and I do that as town or scum, but I can see why you would find my question scummy if you didn't know that.

The part I hate is that you're now saying thinking he might be an alt seemed disingenuous. That would be okay (see the part I like) because I missed all that information, if it was there I can see why you thought I didn't really care about my answer.

But it's not okay because all along you've been saying it bothered you because you thought I was asking if I played with him before.

Now you're saying it's because asking if it was an alt account is disingenuous. That feels like moving the goalposts.

No, really it was because when you first asked the question it just seemed like asking for the sake of, I guess, looking like you were probing. I don't know what a scummy writing style would look like and tone is really hard to pick up.

[Vanta Black]

Originally Posted by Archangel

For everyone else:

If you knew I were town, would you be more or less suspicious of Vanta right now?

I'm going back and forth on whether I want to unvote him, because usually when we get into these snits we're both town.

Archangel, if they knew you were town, they would also know that I am town! Because only the scum know who is town.

[guiri]

I don’t like that Kaiverian asked everyone to share a read and has not followed up on that in any way.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Mordenkainen

Bashorian.

He had a short burst of activity, in which he probed but hasn't come back to respond to the answers. One was querying about an oog comment from me, since explained.

Oh the irony.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

Archangel, if they knew you were town, they would also know that I am town! Because only the scum know who is town.

Did you move the goalposts?

[Vanta Black]

Oh no, another game where Archangel and I spent the whole game doubting each other and we're both town?

Okay, killl me now, that will resolve half of it anyway

[unvote]Archangel[/b]

[Vanta Black]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

Oh no, another game where Archangel and I spent the whole game doubting each other and we're both town?

Okay, killl me now, that will resolve half of it anyway

[unvote]Archangel[/b]

#$%^&*()

[Vanta Black]

Originally Posted by guiri

Did you move the goalposts?

Don't quite get this question but...maybe?

I think if rephrased Archangel meant "thought experiment me as town..."

[Mordenkainen]

Texcat

Most of Texcat's posts are either oog fluff (eg post 3) or questions.

Most.

The post that stands out is post 35. In this she voted for mahaloth on the grounds that she agreed with Colby that claiming VT is something that a Mafiate would do.

I have two problems with this. One, Colby's vote appears to me to be a humourous jab, because it was immediately followed with an unvote in the same post. Two, it's not true that only Mafiates would claim VT. Any VT could, and there are players who would claim VT when they aren't. So the vote is a bad one.

Then we have post 150. In this Texcat repeats the claim that Mafiate would claim VT and that this justifies the vote.

Tex also found the question in Maha's following post to be "disingenuous" and two other posts to be defensive. I didn't agree with the latter[ I get a more despondent "what have I done" vibe from those posts. I can see where she is coming from re the gambling question; a Mafiate might well want a distraction. On the other hand there have been no indications about a gambling theme prior to this so it could easily be VT curiosity.

Overall I disagree with the vote. The question is, are Tex's arguments made up to justify her vote, or honest misunderstandings?

At this point I can't get past the stated reason - that claiming VT is something Mafiates would do, with the implication that only Mafiates would do so. That is just wrong.

[Archangel]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

Oh no, another game where Archangel and I spent the whole game doubting each other and we're both town?

Okay, killl me now, that will resolve half of it anyway

[unvote]Archangel[/b]

At least I don't have a vig! (Not asking you if you do.)

Your last comment (about people knowing you were town if they knew I was town) actually convinced me, because that isn't what I meant at all.

[gnarlycharlie]

Originally Posted by guiri

I questioned you after your vote, you’ve still not replied. Let’s talk a walk back in time, shall we?
- I quote the VT role PM and make a suggestion about possible game setup with 3 scum and a third party, PCM says it seems reasonable.
- you jump on that, say there’s no mention of third parties in the rules or color and vote me, presumably for PIS
- I ask you what your wincon says
- I point out where the wincon allows for multiple forces, not just scum
- you disappear for a number of Days
- in my reads list I mention you, and Colby, for not being aware that there is a possibility of third parties based on the publicly available VT wincon
- you return from your gambling spree empty handed except an accusation that I assumed there were third parties in the game and not two scum teams, which seems a massive stretch to me but sure, I’m open to the possibility, just like I’m open to the possibility that there’s a third party, but have never stated this as fact. I do not consider “forces” to mean players and will happily die on that sword. Reach much?

Is it just me but you always seem irritated when you reply to me? I suppose my playstyle (or lack of one) can be frustrating.

At any rate, I find your questioning my wincon irrelevant because 1) if I weren't Town, I wouldn't admit it was different and 2) much more importantly, it doesn't matter simply because I'm questioning your assumption about the meaning of the word 'forces.' It implies you do know something not mentioned in the VT wincon.

My reason is as good as any for D1. I was really more interested in the reactions of other players, whether they would agree and even vote with me or disagree. There hasn't been much either way. Your reaction has been more surprising. It's a non-issue for most everyone but you seem to be defending yourself a tad vigorously.

[Archangel]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

Don't quite get this question but...maybe?

I think if rephrased Archangel meant "thought experiment me as town..."

The latter is indeed what I meant. Please don't make me paranoid again. (If you knew that then why did you say what you said?)

[Eristic Widgeon]

Hi everyone, I am in Cable Guy Hell today. Day will end in one hour as scheduled but there may be some delay with the flip. Apologies.

Edited for honesty: OK, there will definitely be some delay. Hopefully just a half hour or so.

[Vanta Black]

Originally Posted by Archangel

The latter is indeed what I meant. Please don't make me paranoid again. (If you knew that then why did you say what you said?)

I type insanely fast. Faster than I can think at times.

[Archangel]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

I type insanely fast. Faster than I can think at times.

90 wpm for me.

[Vanta Black]

Wait, ONE HOUR? I am confused

[Mordenkainen]

Originally Posted by guiri

Oh the irony.

Yes, but little posting in the early part of a Day is my normal playstyle. Is it BCs? If it is, then it's fine Today. I'm not in a position to criticise that playstyle, as you point out.

[Archangel]

Is the vote-counting robot not working anymore? I'm getting something weird but it could be my firewall.

[Archangel]

Originally Posted by Mordenkainen

Yes, but little posting in the early part of a Day is my normal playstyle. Is it BCs? If it is, then it's fine Today. I'm not in a position to criticise that playstyle, as you point out.

BC's activity varies as both alignments.

The tone of his posts is his town tone though.

[Mordenkainen]

Originally Posted by Archangel

BC's activity varies as both alignments.

Ok, thanks.

The tone of his posts is his town tone though.

I'm more than a little tone-deaf. Makes this game somewhat frustrating.