Vegas Mafia Day Two

[Archangel]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

guri/Kaiveran are not w/w
meeko/Kaiveran are not w/w

Without some great theatre anyway

I agree with this but it doesn't matter until we find the third party.

Because otherwise any one of them could be hostile and still playing a perfect "town" game because of lack of knowledge.

(I just think Meeko is town though, it's Kaiveran/Guiri I'm really referring to here.)

[Bashorian Clement]

Originally Posted by Archangel

I agree with this but it doesn't matter until we find the third party.

Because otherwise any one of them could be hostile and still playing a perfect "town" game because of lack of knowledge.

(I just think Meeko is town though, it's Kaiveran/Guiri I'm really referring to here.)

This is a good point. If there is another anti-town force, I can't say any two aren't w/w.

[Kaiveran]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out.

I don't have a real good feel for this game. My usual methods of dissecting posts and looking for what is unusual aren't working. Kaiveran seems overly defensive for some reason. Well, it's not even that; there's something about his posting that gnaws at me. I can't help but look at him being a skilled maf, but I don't know that I can point at anything specific.

Guiri I thought was pretty defensive Day 1, over-explaining things to a point where the horse wouldn't survive. I was suspicious of him especially, but I've backed off on that. His Day 2 posting looks more as an emerging Town leader than a defensive maf.

Archangel I thought may have been pocketing me, but I almost always think that with her. But there's really no reason for her to do that as my presence has been minimal so I lean Town on her.

Meeko it seemed to me was also more verbose than usual, but I feel a good vibe there. More frustrated Town than anything else.

I don't have much on anyone else. I'm curious as to why my low profile hasn't generated more interest.

I saw answers to some of the questions I posed Day 1, and they appeared to relate to oog stuff for the most part, but there were one or two things I asked that I don't think were answered, like the punctuation question. I don't recall that being answered, and it doesn't really matter right now given my current read on guiri.

As far as more than one anti-town faction or player goes, it seems to me that Vanta's death points to there not being multiples despite gnarlycharlie's reveal. Or if there are, it's a survivor (which I guess wouldn't necessarily be anti-town) or someone else without a night kill. I'm confident that Vanta hid behind someone Night 1, and I'm confident that that player is a maf. Otherwise it seems we would've seen three kills it seems.

There was something I wanted to say about Precambrian but I dont' remember what.

I'm voting ofr Kaiveran at this time. I think Kaiveran is likely skilled at any alignment, but I don't get a Twon feel there.

Ahh, I see I'm falling victim to the dreaded ~ATPG Effect~.

(Honestly, I'm flattered. I hope to one day be even a tenth of the overall positive force he's been for the game.)

But hey, you try not being defensive when you're basically the only candidate being seriously considered for most of the day!

Some of these individual items seem a little shallow, but overall a decent catchup reads wall that packs a good amount of content into a concise, readable package.

(I really gotta start taking lessons from you.)

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

Now that I think about it I'm not sure I want to hitch my horse to that buggy but let's see how it playhs out.

Will it play out, though?

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

This is something that jumped out at me, not necessarily LightFoot's post but guiri's. How do you explain the kills last Night if there is more than one frooce of darkness?

I went into this in an earlier post but this is why I started to think EW was just joshing us on 3Ps in a shellnut.

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

If we have a super town power, and I don't see any evidence of that or know what that would be, why we would be less than neutral?

This is also a good point.

Originally Posted by Archangel

I agree with this but it doesn't matter until we find the third party.

Because otherwise any one of them could be hostile and still playing a perfect "town" game because of lack of knowledge.

(I just think Meeko is town though, it's Kaiveran/Guiri I'm really referring to here.)

Eh, it's better to use the more generalized "unaligned" for these kinds of situations. E.g "Alice and Bob are unaligned", so if Alice flips wolf, Bob is definitely not a wolf, but could be either Town or 3P.