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Old 7th July 2022, 11:09 AM
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Vegas Mafia Day Four

Welcome to another bright sunny morning, party people! The management is pleased to announce that since you’ve all been such great guests, everyone’s stay is comped for another Day! That’s right, nobody died last Night!. In celebration, everyone gets one free Keno ticket AND 50% off top shelf margaritas at the breakfast bar! Party on!

Day will end at 4 pm Monday, July 11th (a couple hours later than usual).

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Old 7th July 2022, 11:11 AM
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Margarita for me please!

Nice job someone!

Would we be informed if the scum did not submit any Nightkill?
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Old 7th July 2022, 11:12 AM
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Old 7th July 2022, 11:14 AM
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Yet another thing I probably should have put in the rules…

Scum do not have the option of passing on their kill in my games; if they do not submit a target, random.org will provide them with one.
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Old 7th July 2022, 11:20 AM
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Thanks, so again, good job someone!

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Old 7th July 2022, 12:37 PM
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I shall join you guiri


I do think this is the right choice
I am still at work so short this is
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Old 7th July 2022, 12:47 PM
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Old 7th July 2022, 12:57 PM
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Guiri, I can see your argument that Lightfoot is too scummy to be scum. I'm not sure I buy it, but it's something to consider. I was so sure that Mahaloth was scum and was wrong, so I probably need to go back, reread, and reconsider.
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Old 7th July 2022, 07:37 PM
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Strange echo.
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Old 7th July 2022, 08:46 PM
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Scum will love this- I will be flying out on an emergency trip to Sacramento CA in the morning.
I have to go check on my daughter . There seems to be trouble in paradise.
Not an excuse but a fact

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Old 7th July 2022, 10:20 PM
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Alive
LightFoot
Silverjan
Guiri
Mordenkainen - claimed VT
Colby11
Meeko - claimed VT
TexCat
Bashorian Clement

Dead
D1- Gnarlycharlie- town semi-paranoid cop
N1- Precambrianmollusc- vanilla town
N1- Vanta Black- town hider
D2- Kaiveran- scum role cop
N2- Archangel- vanilla town
D3- Mahaloth- vanilla town

Day 3 Final Vote Count
Mordenkainen (3): Meeko (7), guiri (13)[23], Colby11 (41), Bashorian Clement (47)[48], guiri (53)[70], Bashorian Clement (62)
Mahaloth (3): TexCat (29), Bashorian Clement (48)[62], guiri (70), Mordenkainen (71)
Extend Day (1): Colby11 (21)[32], guiri (23)[52], Mahaloth (24)
Bashorian Clement (1): LightFoot (49)
Lightfoot (0): Mordenkainen (64)[71]

Not Voting (1): Silverjan

Day 2 Final Vote Count
Kaiveran (6): guiri (4), Meeko (23), Bashorian Clement (93), TexCat (158), Archangel (182), Mordenkainen (184)[204](204)
Bashorian Clement (2): Mahaloth (165), Silverjan (194)
Texcat (1): Mahaloth (58)[122], Mahaloth (122)[165], LightFoot (124), Archangel (161)[170]
Meeko (1): Kaiveran (156)
Guiri (0): Kaiveran (36)[140]
Mahaloth (0): Archangel (145)[161], TexCat (158)[158], Archangel (170)[182]

Not voting (1): Colby11

Day 1 Final Vote Count
Texcat (4): guiri (113)[239], Mahaloth (118), Mordenkainen (189), Vanta Black (227), gnarlycharlie (240)
Gnarlycharlie (4): Silverjan (136), Archangel (209), TexCat (237), guiri (239)
Vanta Black (2): Colby11 (72), LightFoot (114), Archangel (148)[190]
Archangel (1): guiri (23)[40], Meeko (100), Vanta Black (108)[187]
Guiri (1): gnarlycharlie (13)[240], Precambrianmollusc (151)
Precambrianmollusc (0): Archangel (89)[148]
Mahaloth (0): Colby11 (28)[28], TexCat (35)[237], Meeko (45)[75]
Meeko (0): Vanta Black (37)[108]

Not voting (2): Kaiveran, Bashorian Clement
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Old 7th July 2022, 10:23 PM
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We have proof of the existence of at least one living power role, presumably town, but not sure if there’s any point in a mass claim at this time, if that person is ever at risk of being yeeted then they’ll know what to do.

@TexCat, did you claim VT?
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Old 7th July 2022, 10:23 PM
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I don't recall voting for Mordenkainen D3 and the post numbers look odd [although I spoke of it]
is there a glitch in the matrix?

I am on my way to bed and cannot check now.
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Old 7th July 2022, 10:37 PM
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You voted Bashorian in #49.
Mordenkainen voted you in #64 but then switched to Mahaloth in #71.

Bashorian Clement (1): LightFoot (49)
Lightfoot (0): Mordenkainen (64)[71]
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Old 8th July 2022, 05:18 AM
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Old 8th July 2022, 06:48 AM
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I voted Mahaloth to see what kind ov vote shifting that might cause. Before LightFoot said anything about not learing anything from a landslike. I always intended to go back to Mordenkainen. Which I did. If Mordenkainen is maf I wonder who he would have voted had Mahaloth not been a leader. I'm tinfoiling guiri but that's all it is. It seems that if LIghtFoot were scum she would have not let it go to a tie unless both Mordenkainen and Mahaloth were town. Why is SilverJan ruled out? Sorry several thoughts packed in there.
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Old 8th July 2022, 07:04 AM
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Mordenkainen originally voted Lightfoot, then switched to Mahaloth after me. No-one else budged, it looks like just Mordenkainen and I were around for the last hour of the Day. I don’t understand your comment about Lightfoot and if she’s scum, did you mean me?

Are you asking me about SilverJan not being in my PoE? I was neutral on her for D1 but she’s moved into the likely non-scum column partially for the interaction with Kai regarding pronouns, partially for not knowing there was a dead role-cop (Kai), so a derp-clear, and partially due to her apparent abandonment of the game, just one post yesterDay.
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Old 8th July 2022, 07:42 AM
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No, I meant LightFoot.

I'm not willing to clear Jan.

Meeko and Colby are town based on voting.

Still wondering about a third party. I don't think the mod would troll us like that but maybe.
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Old 8th July 2022, 07:49 AM
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You’re taking Mordenkainen as scum 100%?
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Old 8th July 2022, 07:53 AM
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Old 8th July 2022, 08:08 AM
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Colby voted Vanta D1, did not vote anyone D2, and Mordenkainen D3, so not a lot to go on to make him a town read unless you think his Mordenkainen vote is meaningful.
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Old 8th July 2022, 08:35 AM
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I'm not sure I follwo unless you're saying that X number of maf dictate that neither Colby nor MOrdenkainen can be cleared. Or that me reading Colby as town means that Mordenkainen has to be maf because otherwise there wouldn't be enough mafia? I'm not sure.
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Old 8th July 2022, 08:38 AM
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What do you see in Colby’s voting that makes him town?
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Old 8th July 2022, 08:47 AM
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It seems that if LIghtFoot were scum she would have not let it go to a tie unless both Mordenkainen and Mahaloth were town.
I also don’t understand this bit about Lightfoot, what role do you think she played, or did not play, in the D3 yeet?

Do you have a post restriction where you just swap player’s names as none of what you’ve written makes sense to me.
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Old 8th July 2022, 08:51 AM
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If Mordenkainen and Mahaloth are both town, scum!lightfoot would not have stayed in place on Bashorian; town!lightfoot, however, may have. If Mordenkainen is maf with LightFoot, LightFoot certainly would have voted Mahaloth rather than leave it up to rand. Maybe that helps.
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Old 8th July 2022, 08:52 AM
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I'm not feeling as invested in this game as I usually do for whatever eason.
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Old 8th July 2022, 09:02 AM
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If Mordenkainen and Mahaloth are both town, scum!lightfoot would not have stayed in place on Bashorian; town!lightfoot, however, may have. If Mordenkainen is maf with LightFoot, LightFoot certainly would have voted Mahaloth rather than leave it up to rand. Maybe that helps.
OK, I get you now, thanks.

When you switched from Mordenkainen to Mahaloth, you caused a tie. Lightfoot posted just after you and voted you, instead of breaking the tie between the first two. Your theory is that:
- if she was scum with Mordenkainen, she’d have voted Mahaloth to save Mordenkainen/avoid random.org
- if she is scum but both Mahaloth and Mordenkainen are Town, she would have broken the tie rather than leaving her vote on you
- if she is town, she may have left her vote on you

I don’t see why scum!Lightfoot would have felt a need to break the tie between two townies, but apart from that I understand your reasoning.

However based on her post (landslide), I doubt she even realized there was a tie but instead saw Mordenkainen’s yeet as a foregone conclusion. Still, not voting Mahaloth over Mordenkainen is a point in her favor if Mordenkainen flips scum.
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Old 8th July 2022, 09:04 AM
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I'm not feeling as invested in this game as I usually do for whatever eason.
You’re apparently not the only one, hope my volume is not a factor.
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Old 8th July 2022, 09:32 AM
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Old 8th July 2022, 10:36 AM
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What do you see in Colby’s voting that makes him town?
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Old 8th July 2022, 10:37 AM
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Will we be informed if/when it’s mylo?
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Old 8th July 2022, 01:45 PM
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What do you see in Colby’s voting that makes him town?
I don't remember now.
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Old 8th July 2022, 06:54 PM
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My knee jerk reaction would be to continue the vote on Mort, but I feel like we aren’t considering all options if we just rush to things… obviously a power role either prevented scum from attacking, or protected the scum target, so let’s not waste this chance.

Plus, the fact that we had a tie again makes me very suspicious. This is the second tie in 3 days. It feels very manufactured to me.
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We have proof of the existence of at least one living power role, presumably town, but not sure if there’s any point in a mass claim at this time, if that person is ever at risk of being yeeted then they’ll know what to do.

@TexCat, did you claim VT?
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Old 8th July 2022, 10:57 PM
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We have proof of the existence of at least one living power role, presumably town, but not sure if there’s any point in a mass claim at this time, if that person is ever at risk of being yeeted then they’ll know what to do.

@TexCat, did you claim VT?
No. I have not claimed. And why are you asking? That fishing vest is not a good look.
EoD D1, you were the top yeet candidate with 4 votes, the runners-up had 2, and you came back with 15 minutes to go, resigned to be yeeted:
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I'm around, but it appears I won't be for long.
You self-preservation voted with 3 minutes to go:
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A feeble attempt and self preservation. I'm sure I'm not scum.
And after Gnarly’s reveal you said this:
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I would have definitely unvoted in the face of a claim. My life is not worth saving compared to a cop.
Which I interpret as a VT claim.

Why the fishing accusation now? In response a post where I explicitly said I don’t think the Doc or Blocker should claim?
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Old 8th July 2022, 11:25 PM
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My knee jerk reaction would be to continue the vote on Mort, but I feel like we aren’t considering all options if we just rush to things… obviously a power role either prevented scum from attacking, or protected the scum target, so let’s not waste this chance.

Plus, the fact that we had a tie again makes me very suspicious. This is the second tie in 3 days. It feels very manufactured to me.
You’ve said this before. I enabled the tie both times, the only other player involved both times were the primary yeet candidates. Unless you think I’m scum for enabling the tie, or those players are scum for taking the opportunity to save themselves, there’s no-one else. I was hoping for some other movement but both times it felt like there was no-one interested.

D1, with 1 hour to go, it was TexCat 4, Gnarly, Vanta and me on 2. If I unvoted TexCat at that time I would have been just one vote away from being yeeted, so wanted to avoid putting myself in that position. With 4 minutes to go, TexCat came in and switched from Mahaloth to Gnarly in self-defense, making it 4-3-2-2, I switched from TexCat to Gnarly to make it 3-4-2-2, and finally Gnarly switched from me to TexCat with one minute to go, forcing the tie 4-4-2-1.

D3, with 40 minutes to go, Mordenkainen was on 4 votes with Bashorian and Mahaloth each on 1. Mordenkainen voted Lightfoot: 4-1-1-1. With 15 minutes to go, I switched to Mahaloth, as I thought they were both scum together and wanted to see how Mordenkainen would react, making it 3-2-1-1. With 2 minutes to go Mordenkainen also switched to Mahaloth, forcing the tie 3-3-1-1.
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Alive
LightFoot
Silverjan
Guiri
Mordenkainen - claimed VT
Colby11
Meeko - claimed VT
TexCat
Bashorian Clement

Dead
D1- Gnarlycharlie- town semi-paranoid cop
N1- Precambrianmollusc- vanilla town
N1- Vanta Black- town hider
D2- Kaiveran- scum role cop
N2- Archangel- vanilla town
D3- Mahaloth- vanilla town

Day 3 Final Vote Count
Mordenkainen (3): Meeko (7), guiri (13)[23], Colby11 (41), Bashorian Clement (47)[48], guiri (53)[70], Bashorian Clement (62)
Mahaloth (3): TexCat (29), Bashorian Clement (48)[62], guiri (70), Mordenkainen (71)
Extend Day (1): Colby11 (21)[32], guiri (23)[52], Mahaloth (24)
Bashorian Clement (1): LightFoot (49)
Lightfoot (0): Mordenkainen (64)[71]

Not Voting (1): Silverjan

Day 2 Final Vote Count
Kaiveran (6): guiri (4), Meeko (23), Bashorian Clement (93), TexCat (158), Archangel (182), Mordenkainen (184)[204](204)
Bashorian Clement (2): Mahaloth (165), Silverjan (194)
Texcat (1): Mahaloth (58)[122], Mahaloth (122)[165], LightFoot (124), Archangel (161)[170]
Meeko (1): Kaiveran (156)
Guiri (0): Kaiveran (36)[140]
Mahaloth (0): Archangel (145)[161], TexCat (158)[158], Archangel (170)[182]

Not voting (1): Colby11

Day 1 Final Vote Count
Texcat (4): guiri (113)[239], Mahaloth (118), Mordenkainen (189), Vanta Black (227), gnarlycharlie (240)
Gnarlycharlie (4): Silverjan (136), Archangel (209), TexCat (237), guiri (239)
Vanta Black (2): Colby11 (72), LightFoot (114), Archangel (148)[190]
Archangel (1): guiri (23)[40], Meeko (100), Vanta Black (108)[187]
Guiri (1): gnarlycharlie (13)[240], Precambrianmollusc (151)
Precambrianmollusc (0): Archangel (89)[148]
Mahaloth (0): Colby11 (28)[28], TexCat (35)[237], Meeko (45)[75]
Meeko (0): Vanta Black (37)[108]

Not voting (2): Kaiveran, Bashorian Clement
on my phone.havent figured it out yet. This may be messy
D1 all votes were on Town except Tex and Meeko.known ScUm Kai and BC.didnt vote.
D2 Kai was voted out with last hour?shifts..Colby11 didn't vote
D3 it looked like Mord was headed for the noose early.to me. But some major shifts changed that
Mord and Tex look not so good in my eyes.
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I should have the wifi password soon .so I can read quote and type like a person on my laptop.
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D1 all votes were on Town except Tex and Meeko.known ScUm Kai and BC.didnt vote.
You don’t know my alignment yet either.
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D1 all votes were on Town except Tex and Meeko.known ScUm Kai and BC.didnt vote.
You don’t know my alignment yet either.
You are clear in my eyes.so no need to include you in my list
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I gave a run down of the D1 and D3 yeet a earlier, apart from me, the only other players up to any shenanigans were the yeet candidates themselves, so just based on forcing the tie or vote movements, I’d not be confident pointing fingers. Self-preservation is NAI.

TexCat’s accusation of fishing rubbed me wrong. Apart from the fact that she essentially claimed to have no important role, I see no reason for her to be reserved about her role, scum can read the thread just as we can, so they’ve already excluded her from the pool of possible doc/blocker.
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I agree that D1 without a single scum yeet candidate is unlikely, and I think Meeko is scum, so that leaves TexCat, but that’s a horrible reason on its own to yeet someone, since I’m sure there have been and will be games where this happens…
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I think I get what you are saying ..I am trying to share my thoughts. Mord and TexCat are my top 2but I have not done a dive on their interactions
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I agree that D1 without a single scum yeet candidate is unlikely, and I think Meeko is scum, so that leaves TexCat, but that’s a horrible reason on its own to yeet someone, since I’m sure there have been and will be games where this happens…
I assume you meant Meeko seems Town?
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For some reason I thought Day ended today and that I missed voting. Happy to see we have a coupoe of days yet.
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I agree that D1 without a single scum yeet candidate is unlikely, and I think Meeko is scum, so that leaves TexCat, but that’s a horrible reason on its own to yeet someone, since I’m sure there have been and will be games where this happens…
I assume you meant Meeko seems Town?
Yes, yes. At least that’s what I think.
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I agree that D1 without a single scum yeet candidate is unlikely, and I think Meeko is scum, so that leaves TexCat, but that’s a horrible reason on its own to yeet someone, since I’m sure there have been and will be games where this happens…
I assume you meant Meeko seems Town?
I mean, you know, at one point in time, I had read this, noted it, and was like

"Ok, I mean, I'm not sure what I can do to change that, really."

Glad to see this has been straightened out without me needed to get involved.
 

Giraffiti
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