All Night Chroma - Mvt. 2: Mutations With Reeds

[Mahaloth]

Originally Posted by Meeko

Well .... I was coming in to do this.... And seeing as how my chroma points are more or less fixed... I'm further incentivized to do this.





1. Your reaction.
2. Your reaction, even if it wasn't out of character for the EW account, or any other (with respect, obviously) account in your sock drawer.
2.5 I'll get back to point 2 momentarily.
3. It is PIS
3.5 Or at least a reaction adjacent to PIS and or because of the PIS.

4. Yes. Because you were playing chess, as we were playing checkers.

5. The entire lack of getting extra chroma points.

6. Because this is a hill I need to die on. (See Number 2)
6.1 And I need to die on this hill, 'as' Meeko.
6.2 Yes. The legacy of the last game.
6.3 Yes, because I get to do this, not 'as' Mendie.

7. Yeah. If we need to talk about Mendie, we can do that later. Ask me about the relevant YouTube video, and my most recent trip to Harrahs.

8. Because the unorthodox rule set this game has.
8.1 I am not and will not find a better lead than I will be willing to "get on board with."

9. This is my bone.

10. Besides. "Mendie is going to Mendie" doesn't quite work the same.

I want to screenshot this post from you, Meeko. It encapsulates everything about you.

But, no, I don't think EW is scum.

[Bashorian Clement]

Meeko why is EW's reaction PIS or adjacent to it? And you're talking about the reaction from M1?

Because I'm not seeing it or feeling it.

[Colby11]

Originally Posted by Meeko

Well .... I was coming in to do this.... And seeing as how my chroma points are more or less fixed... I'm further incentivized to do this.





1. Your reaction.
2. Your reaction, even if it wasn't out of character for the EW account, or any other (with respect, obviously) account in your sock drawer.
2.5 I'll get back to point 2 momentarily.
3. It is PIS
3.5 Or at least a reaction adjacent to PIS and or because of the PIS.

4. Yes. Because you were playing chess, as we were playing checkers.

5. The entire lack of getting extra chroma points.

6. Because this is a hill I need to die on. (See Number 2)
6.1 And I need to die on this hill, 'as' Meeko.
6.2 Yes. The legacy of the last game.
6.3 Yes, because I get to do this, not 'as' Mendie.

7. Yeah. If we need to talk about Mendie, we can do that later. Ask me about the relevant YouTube video, and my most recent trip to Harrahs.

8. Because the unorthodox rule set this game has.
8.1 I am not and will not find a better lead than I will be willing to "get on board with."

9. This is my bone.

10. Besides. "Mendie is going to Mendie" doesn't quite work the same.

11. Ask Opal

[LightFoot]

Colby- I must say that is less [much less] than profound
as a late comer have you anything else to add to the game?

[LightFoot]

I want to play this game... time constraints and all
I will tell you I did track last movement- my target did not 'visit' anyone who died and they have not said anything that I noticed about their visit.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Vote Counting Robot

Eristic Widgeon (1): Meeko (50)
Dizzymrslizzy (1): Eristic Widgeon (19)
Sleep/abstain (0): Meeko (35)[50]

not much so far
EW has a vote for M1 behaviour I think
Dizzy has a vote for voting EW I think
I have another heavy day at work tomorrow - I am hoping there is more for me to read whn I return

[Mahaloth]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

I want to play this game... time constraints and all
I will tell you I did track last movement- my target did not 'visit' anyone who died and they have not said anything that I noticed about their visit.

So would it be helpful to tell us who you visited or is there a solid reason not to? Sounds like someone is at least a little bit cleared?

[Colby11]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Colby- I must say that is less [much less] than profound
as a late comer have you anything else to add to the game?

The sad part is that I really don’t have anything to add… EW we all know had a fast start but nothing else is standing out to me….

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

So would it be helpful to tell us who you visited or is there a solid reason not to? Sounds like someone is at least a little bit cleared?

I don't know what they went there to do. I was withholding to see if they would claim any knowledge of the target. Since I could confirm or deny who was visited
does that make sense?

[LightFoot]

ust over 26 hours to go
Friday will be a long day at work for me

Any one around this eve?

[Mahaloth]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

ust over 26 hours to go
Friday will be a long day at work for me

Any one around this eve?

Yeah, I'm here but at a loss. No real info gained, I think EW is Town in this game.

Meeko seems very much himself, which makes him unreadable in almost any game.

[raventhief]

I tracked someone... Who visited only themselves (themself?)

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by raventhief

I tracked someone... Who visited only themselves (themself?)

either they guarded themself? or a Scum painted themself??

anyone want to confirm they did one of these things
yea probably not

[LightFoot]

raven I know who you visited.
do you think 'e self protected or painted ?

Either could be a Scum move- only one could be Town - thoughts?

[Eristic Widgeon]

I’m around. Protecting yourself is poor play as town, reasonable as scum. So I think this player looks very suspicious.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Eristic Widgeon

I’m around. Protecting yourself is poor play as town, reasonable as scum. So I think this player looks very suspicious.

They purchased the protect ( if that is what they did) knowing beforehand that it had to be used- was the plan a along to self protect

on D1 that seems odd

Of course a Red Scum might paint themselves if they felt pressure - but again D1?

pondering

[Eristic Widgeon]

And by the way, where the hell is Dizzy??

[raventhief]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

They purchased the protect ( if that is what they did) knowing beforehand that it had to be used- was the plan a along to self protect

on D1 that seems odd

Of course a Red Scum might paint themselves if they felt pressure - but again D1?

pondering

Well, I only had two options for mvt 1, and neither of those two options (paint /protect) were even available to me. I've been pondering the implications of that expanded menu for the poster I tracked.

[raventhief]

Originally Posted by raventhief

Well, I only had two options for mvt 1, and neither of those two options (paint /protect) were even available to me. I've been pondering the implications of that expanded menu for the poster I tracked.

But really, the implication is flight- they started with more points than I did. Nothing more, nothing less than that is implied. I keep hoping for an aha moment where something will tickle my brain...

Hasn't happened.

[raventhief]

*implication is SLIGHT

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by raventhief

But really, the implication is flight-

I mean, if I were a raven, and you were going to steal me, my implication would be flight also.

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How do I say this?

It would not, and it does not totally surprise me, if no one else votes with me against EW.

I'm just at a point, where I Can't not, not vote. [Triple negative?]

I would hate it more if EW was scum, and I that I didn't vote for them, than if EW was not scum, and I did vote for them.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Eristic Widgeon

I’m around. Protecting yourself is poor play as town, reasonable as scum. So I think this player looks very suspicious.

Some of us are known to be paranoid.

Even as town.

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx4Jlkz2S...UOFvq-IZEqtSsm

[Eristic Widgeon]

I would be willing to move my vote to whoever raven and LightFoot are talking about if they would share the information.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by raventhief

I tracked someone... Who visited only themselves (themself?)

And I thought my kinks were weird.

[Eristic Widgeon]

Four and a half hours to go and three-quarters of the players have no vote down. Awesome.

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Originally Posted by Eristic Widgeon

So, were the scum afraid of Vanta's plan, or just of Vanta? If there are in fact only two scum, Vanta's plan would have been strongly pro-Town. Not a great look for those who loudly opposed the plan.

raven is lock town. No way scum passes up the chance to dunk on me at the last minute there. Major FOS on the three players who did want to get rid of a strong player instead of a potato on Day One. I feel confident there is at least one and quite likely two scum in Meeko/Dizzy/LightFoot. I think of the three, Meeko is actually the least likely to be scum, because he started the whole thing and because he does unpredictable things as town.

So yeah, let's go there.

Yes because scum all pile on one person when there’s two town candidates??

More likely you and Raven are partners and Raven saved your tail yesterday.

My vote is for Raven for her, I don’t believe in this vote but I’m going to do it anyway.

[vote]Raventhief[\vote]

And afte Raven goes down as Red scum EW is next!

[Mahaloth]

Should we not launch anyone?



I have no information to make a decision on. Let's see who scum kill and then see if that provides info.

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Originally Posted by Eristic Widgeon

I doubt there would only be one. Nobody wants to design a setup that could end on Day One.

7-2 is usually considered well balanced, so 8-2 would be slightly pro-town. Given that we don’t have flips, 7-3 does seem really overpowered for scum. But I don’t think we can afford to ASSUME there are only 2.

There are 3 factions this game.

Red, green, and blue.

So I’m assuming it’s 7,2,1

[Mahaloth]

Dizzy's "I don't believe in my vote but here it is anyway" is very suspicious to me.

[raventhief]

Originally Posted by Dizzymrslizzy

There are 3 factions this game.

Red, green, and blue.

So I’m assuming it’s 7,2,1

There are TWO factions. Town and scum. The colors are... At the risk of stating a tautology... Color. Reds and blues generally have more points, greens generally have fewer. But you can be any color, alignment and point combination.

[raventhief]

Originally Posted by Dizzymrslizzy

Yes because scum all pile on one person when there’s two town candidates??

More likely you and Raven are partners and Raven saved your tail yesterday.

My vote is for Raven for her, I don’t believe in this vote but I’m going to do it anyway.

[vote]Raventhief[\vote]

And afte Raven goes down as Red scum EW is next!

This is a weird post. You don't believe in the vote, but you are going to do it anyway and then you expect me to be both red AND scum?

[raventhief]

Originally Posted by Dizzymrslizzy

Yes because scum all pile on one person when there’s two town candidates??

More likely you and Raven are partners and Raven saved your tail yesterday.

My vote is for Raven for her, I don’t believe in this vote but I’m going to do it anyway.

[vote]Raventhief[\vote]

And afte Raven goes down as Red scum EW is next!

Why do you say with such certainty that PCM was town?

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Dizzymrslizzy

There are 3 factions this game.

Red, green, and blue.

So I’m assuming it’s 7,2,1

Not the way I read it
we have scum [who can be multicoloured]
and Town that could be multicoloured

what are you seeing that I am not?

[LightFoot]

cross posting is fun!

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

Dizzy's "I don't believe in my vote but here it is anyway" is very suspicious to me.

No That's my REASON for voting Raven. That was her vote on PCM yesterday. It was very suspect at the EOD. She came on saying she didn't believe PCM was scum, and then voted him a few minutes later?!?!

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

Not the way I read it
we have scum [who can be multicoloured]
and Town that could be multicoloured

what are you seeing that I am not?

That it's not going to be multiple. It's the same as having a godfather and a miller. No more no less.

Most town will be Blue
Most Scum will be Red.

With 10 players, there aren't going to be 3 Blue Scum. It can't be more than 1, just on numbers alone.

[LightFoot]

until clarification makes sense

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Originally Posted by raventhief

This is a weird post. You don't believe in the vote, but you are going to do it anyway and then you expect me to be both red AND scum?

@Mahaloth. @raventhief. I was commenting on RAVEN's EOD behavior yesterday being scummy.

At 7:57pm

Originally Posted by raventhief

I am having a hard time with a PCM elimination.

Well, I am having a medium-soft time? I don't have the strength of any convictions. I'm feeling kind of meh?

With nothing to go on at all, and an untrustworthy flip (yeah blue probably means town, red probably means scum, but might not be?)

I don't feel like PCM is particularly scummy, just... Absent. Which is NAI.

30 minutes later at 8:35pm you changed your mind, with no explanation

Originally Posted by raventhief

I guess I'll

I 100% believe Raven is scummy and deserves pressure for this.

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

until clarification makes sense

What do you need clarified?

[Dizzymrslizzy]

@LightFoot-

I'm simply going by statistics, and what makes the most sense logistically.

It makes the most sense that there is a single miller and a singler godfather, and that everyone else is Blue Town or Red Scum and however many 3rd party greens there are.

That's my understanding of the rules.

I personnally are going by any blues we lose are most probably Town, and any Reds we kill are most likely Scum. Until there's reason otherwise to change that theory.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Dizzymrslizzy

@LightFoot-

I'm simply going by statistics, and what makes the most sense logistically.

It makes the most sense that there is a single miller and a singler godfather, and that everyone else is Blue Town or Red Scum and however many 3rd party greens there are.

That's my understanding of the rules.

I personnally are going by any blues we lose are most probably Town, and any Reds we kill are most likely Scum. Until there's reason otherwise to change that theory.

that is a lot of assuming and we don't see it the same.
The randomness of colour and point distribution makes me see different

[raventhief]

EoM is in about an hour, and I likely won't be awake for that.

I realize you didn't think it was quick enough, but I did explain a bit when I woke up. A minimally (or rather, not at all) player doesn't really help town, do they?

I misunderstood your statement for why you were voting me but at least now it's not utterly nonsensical. Wrong, tho.

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Originally Posted by raventhief

There are TWO factions. Town and scum. The colors are... At the risk of stating a tautology... Color. Reds and blues generally have more points, greens generally have fewer. But you can be any color, alignment and point combination.

1- No where does it say there are 2 factions. Town-aligned doesn't = 100% Town. 3rd party Greens can be Town Aligned, but a 3rd faction. We don't know that.

2- The Rules state that the majority of the Reds are Mafia Aligned.

If there are 3 scum, that means that there are 2 Red Mafia, 1 Miller.
Therefore there's only 1 Blue Mafia aka a Godfather.
There really can't be many other combinations statistically.

As elucidated in the signup thread, there are three different classifications of players in this game, called Colors.
The majority of the REDS are Mafia-aligned, and start the game with 5 Chromata (more on those later.)
The majority of the GREENS are Town-aligned and start the game with 2 Chromata.
The majority of the BLUES are Town-aligned and start the game with 5 Chromata.

[raventhief]

Does anyone else think greens are third party???

We do not have any reason to believe that there is a third assignment, so we? There are two win cons listed.

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Originally Posted by raventhief

EoM is in about an hour, and I likely won't be awake for that.

I realize you didn't think it was quick enough, but I did explain a bit when I woke up. A minimally (or rather, not at all) player doesn't really help town, do they?

I misunderstood your statement for why you were voting me but at least now it's not utterly nonsensical. Wrong, tho.

I clearly said I was voting you for YOUR voting someone you didn't find scummy.

I can't help people not reading.

[raventhief]

You may believe you were completely clear in your apartment, but I was not the only one confused.

[raventhief]

*clear in your statement.

[Dizzymrslizzy]

So let me ask. @LightFoot. @ Raven

How many of each color do you think there are of Scum and Town?

What logically makes sense? How do you have a majority of Scum being Red, but there being many Red Townies? So much so that you can't trust that a Red playing being eliminated is probably a good thing?

[raventhief]

Dizzy, you think Green are third party, but also that PCM was town?

[raventhief]

Originally Posted by Dizzymrslizzy

So let me ask. @LightFoot. @ Raven

How many of each color do you think there are of Scum and Town?

What logically makes sense? How do you have a majority of Scum being Red, but there being many Red Townies? So much so that you can't trust that a Red playing being eliminated is probably a good thing?

I don't know. I know three colors at this point and one alignment.