Masterchef Day 1- And Begin!!

[Bashorian Clement]

Originally Posted by Kaiveran

Anyways...







This is the alternative to BC in my eyes.



Already gone into my misgivings on BC, and on review no-one seems more strongly paired with him than Maha. I think we therefore get a (relatively) great deal of info from either flip.

In a game with very few suspicions your choosing to start a wagon rather than join one and vote the player you spent quite a bit of real estate sussing this is a scummy vote.



I would change to mahaloth possibly because there's partner equity there.

[Bashorian Clement]

Simon Templar is also suspicious. They just seem verbose , like they're looking busy.

[LightFoot]

Originally Posted by Kaiveran

Yeah, I can dig on this too – I'm just still kinda kicking myself thinking that the full-size, thought-through version of ANC might have made this feel like less of a relief.



I am trying with all the strength that is in my fluffy body to not read too much into early game doofposting. But if my memory serves, this is a dead ringer for many, many fillery posts in the last game where she was scum. Which, sure, it was fun to watch her do her Teflon Don thing when I had no skin in the game, but it becomes a concern now that our interests are potentially opposed to each other.

IDK, just a gut lean I'm giving voice to.



~:

Interesting take on soup and sandwich post

I am not a Scum this game. But that statement is worth bupkis -I know.
I am reading with one eye [swollen] and posting with borked internet at home.
not AI

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Scummish
Mahaloth
Kaiveran
Texcat

Townish
Bashorian Clement
Dizzymrslizzy
Simon Templar

Given Kaiveran's vote on Mahaloth (scummish on scummish), and Bashorian Clement's vote Kaiveran (townish on scummish), I'll switch around.

[LightFoot]

arg the BC quote didn't need to be in there
look at the origional for more sense making

[Simon Templar]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

In a game with very few suspicions your choosing to start a wagon rather than join one and vote the player you spent quite a bit of real estate sussing this is a scummy vote.

[vote]kaiveran[vote]

I would change to mahaloth possibly because there's partner equity there.

What is partner equity? Asking because Kaiveran voted Mahaloth and I don't really see partner equity in that but maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

[Simon Templar]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

Simon Templar is also suspicious. They just seem verbose , like they're looking busy.

Not "they."

[Dizzymrslizzy]

I’m not feeling the BC/Maha thing right now.

Pleo I have a bill read on

Mendie I need time to read properly.


LightFoot and Tex always fool me. I’m feeling anxious there.

Kai I like the participation so I’d like to read more and hear what more they have to say!



Unless something more profound is out there!

[Kaiveran]

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

Everyone has posted at this point(I just checked).

Of the two lowest posters, Dizzy comes off pretty good because of the day 1 overview post, which seems pretty good.

I have to give Lightfoot credit as well since it was LF that pointed out to me that I needed to post the "what you do with the ingredients" portion of the recipe. I had somehow missed that was important, thought the whole thing was ingredient based.

Anyway, I wouldn't support execute the lurker in this game because both of the two lowest posters are not just posting pure fluff or anything.

No new leads, but at least an examination. I guess Lightfoot hasn't been too helpful aside from telling me to post my "recipe directions" or whatever they are called?

Hmm.

Doubts.

Doubts in a doubt filled phase.

Especially given that this happened naturally in the gap between my walls so the full extent of my read wasn't there to react to.

Some posts are wolfy or towny based on when they happen alone. And this seems to be towny, mostly because of the unprompted initiative.

Originally Posted by guiri

No, absolutely meant that chopping and dicing being >rand scum as a humorous throwaway comment. I doubt there are any recipes that don’t involve some sort of violence against the ingredients or that a townie would be more inclined to steer away from those verbs. I’ll add a smiley face or something next time

Sigh...

It's really stupid, but I was tinfoiling that maybe scum could have got a hint as to at least one secret cooking thingamajig, but that there might be a townie that knows what that hint is. Thinking over the specifics of the rules again, though, that'd be incredibly awkward to balance, or even make actually useful (and not just a dumb "whoever gets to thread first wins" sort of thing.)

I think I got that in my head b/c Swammi reminded me of Ye Olde Homesites and that's a very them move to make. Rawrf, gotta stop being stuck in the past, Kai.

As for my vote, yes, it’s weak sauce, but I don’t agree that even if BC flipped scum we’d learn nothing. Not as much as a Day full of accusations, interactions, and reactions back and forth, sure.

Well, I said it seemed to be approaching that kind of thing, and that's how I thought it might go. But coming back it seems like that is very much not the case, and at least part of that development has to do with my activity, even! So I'm happy.

The game is quiet, but having just come off a couple of mad games on another site, this pace suits me just fine.

Oh yeah, I heard about that last in ANC's dead chat, I think! Hope you didn't get too much piss and vinegar thrown your way.

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Gut or otherwise feels so far:

Scummish
Mahaloth
Kaiveran
Texcat

Neutralish
Swammi
Mendie Taoma
Lightfoot
Guiri

Townish
Bashorian Clement
Dizzymrslizzy
Simon Templar

I'll start off here

but will switch to others as needed.

Hmmm. I think I see what you see here with TexCat, given we seem to concur on Mahaloth. But again, I would prefer to see Tex's response to me before I follow this, if possible.

Originally Posted by guiri

@Mahaloth. The credit for Lightfoot is because it was townie of her to give you a chance to win the extra powers, right?

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

Yes, and reminding people of things in the rules and so forth is pro-town in my opinion.

This is basically the exact same reason I have a town nudge to Simon.

I'm not entirely sure I agree here – leaving the potential Maha/BC pairing aside to avoid too much pre-flippy bullshit, Simon has been more active and slightly more forthcoming about this, but with the latest LightFoot posts I'm catching in preview, it looks like she's going through some shit right now, and I think the benefit of the doubt is warranted.

Besides, I don't think the general wolf current in this particular game is to barely clear the activity/initiative bar.

Originally Posted by Swammerdami

In addition to blissful sleep at EOD. I plan on — OOG and TMI — awakening in a strange bed and on being away from my desk until then (though I MIGHT attempt to click on my Smartphone). So I will make a very weak vote now just to make sure I have a vote in place.



His answer to me almost seemed to "protest too much."

No hard feelings please. I love all of you!

Understandable, have a nice day

And also a very correct attitude towards the game. It's a game, it's supposed to be fun, it's just BSing (the posts) on top of more BSing (the roles). We are all gathered here to play a role and afterwards the masks should come off, the flexible daggers discarded, and we go back to being friends again.

Come at it with that attitude and you never regret a game. You can celebrate eachothers successes rather than stewing in your failures.

I'm sorry, y'all probably have DIABEETUS by now. Game related content: it's a good post. The vote aligns very well with what he was doing previously and I even called out what he calls out earlier, to a lesser degree.

[Kaiveran]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

In a game with very few suspicions your choosing to start a wagon rather than join one and vote the player you spent quite a bit of real estate sussing this is a scummy vote.



I would change to mahaloth possibly because there's partner equity there.

...I literally explained why I wanted to start a counterwagon in both that post and the previous one though?

And are you suggesting that I would back away from a popular and easily justifiable vote option just to put some heat on a wolf partner? That was getting practically zero attention prior to that? Seems dumb.

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

Simon Templar is also suspicious. They just seem verbose , like they're looking busy.

I actually looked into the matter, and I completely failed to notice that Simon is the top poster thus far. A lot of them have been pretty insubstantial, granted. I'm not totally opposed to Simon, for both that and the common ground with Swammi.

It's just that you and Maha kind of have the edge?

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Given Kaiveran's vote on Mahaloth (scummish on scummish), and Bashorian Clement's vote Kaiveran (townish on scummish), I'll switch around.

Hmm. Could you go into why you're reading BC town here, because that last post is the first time he's appeared to step out of (what I view as) wolfy self-focus.

Originally Posted by Simon Templar

What is partner equity? Asking because Kaiveran voted Mahaloth and I don't really see partner equity in that but maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

"Partner equity" is similar to what I've called "pairing behavior" – basically it's a measure of how likely it is that two people are wolves together.

See above for specifics in this case

Originally Posted by Dizzymrslizzy

I’m not feeling the BC/Maha thing right now.

Pleo I have a bill read on

Mendie I need time to read properly.


LightFoot and Tex always fool me. I’m feeling anxious there.

Kai I like the participation so I’d like to read more and hear what more they have to say!



Unless something more profound is out there!

@TexCat

Suspicions are swirling and intrigue unfurling,
Come join the chorus and let us play fair!

[Simon Templar]

Let's make it a real wagon. Third vote!

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

Simon Templar is also suspicious. They just seem verbose , like they're looking busy.

But.

But.

You had already voted them.

THIS. IS. IRREGULAR. AND. OUT. OF. PLACE.

[Mendie Taoma]

WAIT.

Kai

You are going to pull "Too young for Carmen Sandiego on IBM compatibles" .... And then post Gummi Bears?!

[Mendie Taoma]

Mendie Post 002, MasterChef, Day 1 --- Opinion on various votes held.

Not that it appears to matter all that much, I realistically don't see me moving my vote today, given timing of the game, and IRL timings.

If for any reason my vote feels unwarranted, please note that I was among the first, if not THE first to call out Bashorian's vote. I had precedent for my vote.

On the topic of unwarranted votes...

Can anyone please explain what on earth is on with Kaiveran votes / voters?

Yes. It's on me, because, as always, the one stretch of time, I'm not actively IN the game, everyone else, and their brother, is.

But. Random assorted murmurs of Pocketing and Smuggling.

Sure. Fine.

But. Then strip that from me.

Any player. At any distance. From any pretext and conrext. Any prehistory, experience, subculture, mode of identification, or spectrum, must find the wagon on Kai to at least be accelerated, if not manufactured, and or conspired.

Between Bashorian having odd second (third?!) Thoughts on Simon ... And whatever circlejerk (frankly) Kai's wagon members are ALSO pulling .... Something is rotten in Denmark.

Would that I could have more time here. But I'm over as it is for this post, relative to getting my shift at work started. And that will probably prevent me back in here, at least with substantial meaning, before EOD.

[Swammerdami]

Originally Posted by Simon Templar

First of all, how does it seem contrived? Second of all,...

Originally Posted by Simon Templar

Hey, Swammi, if you thought my post seemed contrived, what do you think of this?

(I'm thinking, tomato donuts?)

It doesn't seem to me at all contrived. And even if it were, what is the possible scum motive?

Either Pleonast or myself is confused about the rules. I think each player is allowed ONE recipe post which may contain (within reason) several special ingredients, dishes, or techniques. Pleonast seems to think he gets THREE posts, one each for a SINGLE ingredient, dish, technique; and for some reason is hinting at words rather than making explicit contest submissions. If his understanding is wrong, This is a Town tell — Scum are more cognizant of the rules, especially if they have Day Chat.

Question 1: Do Scum have Day Chat?
Question 2: Does Question q make me appear Scummy? ("Oooh, he's pretending he doesn't know when Scum can chat!")

Oh I'm not actually a new face, Simon is an alt.

If you are who I assume you are, you have about 29 socks, each with its own personality. Are you trying to beat the record set by Allah with His 99 names?

[Swammerdami]

On reread I see I answered why Pleonast's did NOT seem contrived, but not why Simon's DID seem contrived. Alas, I clicked Submit when Preview was intended, and am too insecure to click Edit now.

I'll just settle for a brusque "Asked and answered."

[LightFoot]

I have read peope expressing suspicion o Simon templer but not voting there- distancing?



I am off to work and may not be abe to sneak in before EOD

I shoud get my head in the game tomorrow

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by Kaiveran

Hmm. Could you go into why you're reading BC town here, because that last post is the first time he's appeared to step out of (what I view as) wolfy self-focus.

Not really. It's a Day One gut read. Also, I think it's counter-productive to discuss townie tells.

I'm also also concerned that the discussion is being too dominated by a few of us.

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

Can anyone please explain what on earth is on with Kaiveran votes / voters?

Focus your paranoia on Kaiveran for several thoughts. I get a bad feeling from the read. Only Day One, of course, but that's all we have right now.

I'm moving Mendie Taoma into the town category.

[Pleonast]

Originally Posted by Swammerdami

Either Pleonast or myself is confused about the rules. I think each player is allowed ONE recipe post which may contain (within reason) several special ingredients, dishes, or techniques. Pleonast seems to think he gets THREE posts, one each for a SINGLE ingredient, dish, technique; and for some reason is hinting at words rather than making explicit contest submissions. If his understanding is wrong, This is a Town tell — Scum are more cognizant of the rules, especially if they have Day Chat.

I'm flummoxed by the difficulty others are having with the rules. They were written very clearly.

Originally Posted by Colby11

Special to MasterChef: every Day and Night phase, there will be a cooking competition. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO COOK. You can post recipes, etc.
First person to get the special ingredient, dish, technique, will receive two things.

We don't have to cook. We can post a recipe or other things. The Master Chef is looking for a special ingredient, dish, or technique.

Some players are choosing to cook. Some are choosing to post a recipe. Some are choosing to make their guesses directly. Those options are all in the rules.

[Bashorian Clement]

For my pico I'm peeling one small tomato and crushing it, stirring and mashing it to a thick consistency.

Two more tomatoes diced not too finely

1/2 white onion, diced

A couple of large pinches of cilantro, minced

1/2 serrano pepper, minced

1 small habanero pepper, minced

1/2 clove garlic, minced

Salt & freshly ground black pepper

Toss the above in the crushed tomato base

Spray 1/2 lime on mixture

Refigerate 24 hours to allow flavors to develop

Serve with corn tortillas, chips, and/or tacos

[Bashorian Clement]

I can accept kaiveran wanting a counter-wagon. I wasn't seeing it before but from another angle it makes some sense.

[Bashorian Clement]

There's way too much focus on the cooking/prepping and not enough on mafia.

[Bashorian Clement]

Originally Posted by LightFoot

I have read peope expressing suspicion o Simon templer but not voting there- distancing?



I am off to work and may not be abe to sneak in before EOD

I shoud get my head in the game tomorrow

This is townie. There's absolutely no reason for LightFoot to do this as scum.

[Bashorian Clement]

Originally Posted by Simon Templar

Let's make it a real wagon. Third vote!

This is not townie.

[Bashorian Clement]

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

But.

But.

You had already voted them.

THIS. IS. IRREGULAR. AND. OUT. OF. PLACE.

That was a random vote with no information, Mendie. Am I missing something?

[Bashorian Clement]

Originally Posted by Dizzymrslizzy

I’m not feeling the BC/Maha thing right now.

Pleo I have a bill read on

Mendie I need time to read properly.


LightFoot and Tex always fool me. I’m feeling anxious there.

Kai I like the participation so I’d like to read more and hear what more they have to say!



Unless something more profound is out there!

I don't see this, Dizzy. Is the case on TexCat purely a meta read?

[Bashorian Clement]

LightFoot and Swammi town

Everyone else null

Mahaloth and Simon scummy

[guiri]

I like the progression in that sequence of posts.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Vote Counting Robot

Kaiveran (3): Bashorian Clement (101), Pleonast (104), Simon Templar (111)
Texcat (1): Pleonast (94)[104], Dizzymrslizzy (108)
Simon Templer (1): LightFoot (117)
Mahaloth (1): Kaiveran (97)
Simon Templar (1): Bashorian Clement (2)[21], Swammerdami (100)
Bashorian Clement (1): guiri (46)[129], Mahaloth (71)[85], Mendie Taoma (84)
Pleonast (0): Simon Templar (73)[111]

Not a fan of the Kaiveran wagon, at least the vote reasoning given.

[Bashorian Clement]

I forgot to unvote/vote





I just feel like trusting LghtFoot.

[Mendie Taoma]

Originally Posted by Swammerdami

If you are who I assume you are, you have about 29 socks, each with its own personality. Are you trying to beat the record set by Allah with His 99 names?

Mendie raises her paw as if to comment here, then thinks better of it, and instead, actually opens her mouth and "puts a sock in it."

Wait, why do I hear people rejoicing?!

[Simon Templar]

Originally Posted by Swammerdami

If you are who I assume you are, you have about 29 socks, each with its own personality. Are you trying to beat the record set by Allah with His 99 names?

I'm not Biotop.

[Simon Templar]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

I forgot to unvote/vote





I just feel like trusting LghtFoot.

BC and LF not scum/scum. Could still be town/town.

[Simon Templar]

I disagree that I'm verbose. That actually hurts my feelings.

I am playing the game, and if you guys want to Lynch the Loudmouth instead of the Lurker, that makes me worry for the state of the game, because a lot of discussion is better for town.

I assume that nobody wants to hear my verbose reasons for the Kaiveran vote.

[guiri]

Go on, I’d like to hear, assuming it’s more than just forming a counter wagon.

[Kaiveran]

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

But.

But.

You had already voted them.

THIS. IS. IRREGULAR. AND. OUT. OF. PLACE.

This is the shot...wait for the [I]chaser[/I].

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

WAIT.

Kai

You are going to pull "Too young for Carmen Sandiego on IBM compatibles" .... And then post Gummi Bears?!

Fun Fact:
I literally only know of Gummi Bears through some random Kingdom Hearts memes/fanart, and the theme song has never left my brain since.

That's how you know it's good.

Originally Posted by Mendie Taoma

Between Bashorian having odd second (third?!) Thoughts on Simon ... And whatever circlejerk (frankly) Kai's wagon members are ALSO pulling .... Something is rotten in Denmark.

Would that I could have more time here. But I'm over as it is for this post, relative to getting my shift at work started. And that will probably prevent me back in here, at least with substantial meaning, before EOD.

I must concur here.

On the bright side, it seems like this whole tangle will be highly readable once we get a flip out of it. So my D1 fears have mostly been quelled...except for, y'know, the possibly getting run over by the bandwagon part.

Originally Posted by Swammerdami

It doesn't seem to me at all contrived. And even if it were, what is the possible scum motive?

Either Pleonast or myself is confused about the rules. I think each player is allowed ONE recipe post which may contain (within reason) several special ingredients, dishes, or techniques. Pleonast seems to think he gets THREE posts, one each for a SINGLE ingredient, dish, technique; and for some reason is hinting at words rather than making explicit contest submissions. If his understanding is wrong, This is a Town tell — Scum are more cognizant of the rules, especially if they have Day Chat.

Question 1: Do Scum have Day Chat?
Question 2: Does Question q make me appear Scummy? ("Oooh, he's pretending he doesn't know when Scum can chat!")

If you are who I assume you are, you have about 29 socks, each with its own personality. Are you trying to beat the record set by Allah with His 99 names?

I do see the logic here, and it seems to make the original exchange a bit clearer. But certainly just a bit

Originally Posted by LightFoot

I have read peope expressing suspicion o Simon templer but not voting there- distancing?



I am off to work and may not be abe to sneak in before EOD

I shoud get my head in the game tomorrow

Hey, fair play. You have reasons and a vote, and sometimes that's good enough. Real life comes first. (Or at least bad things happen when it doesn't.)

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Not really. It's a Day One gut read. Also, I think it's counter-productive to discuss townie tells.

I'm also also concerned that the discussion is being too dominated by a few of us.

Well, the reason I wanted to hear about it was (as per your playing with pairings) it seems to inform a great deal of what you're doing, and I feel like you'd want to make that followable. But I have known types that like to keep cards close to their chest until they feel they have a slam dunk.

(Horribly mixed metaphors, I'm aware)

I mean, there's naturally gonna be some significant differences in mouthiness between us, and my own solution to that issue is to try getting some more out of the quieter ones (like I've been trying to do with BC/Texcat) before we conclude the Day.

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

This is townie. There's absolutely no reason for LightFoot to do this as scum.

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

This is not townie.

Not

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

That was a random vote with no information, Mendie. Am I missing something?

@Mendie Taoma
Here's the chaser.

Now we have to consider that this might be a pressure-induced lift, at least partially. I don't remember for certain if BC was this brusque last game, and I still think the RVS vote/unvote stinks a bit.

But if we accept BC's claim that Simon was a random vote and there was nothing fishy behind the unvote, I think this whole sequence from BC actually makes some sore of sense.

-----

I'd get up to the minute but I'm starved right now. BRB.

[Pleonast]

Player Posts Voting?
Simon Templar 23 yes
Mendie Taoma 21 yes
Bashorian Clement 16 yes
Pleonast 14 yes
Kaiveran 12 yes
guiri 11 no
Swammerdami 8 yes
Mahaloth 8 no
LightFoot 7 yes
TexCat 5 no
Dizzymrslizzy 4 yes

[Pleonast]

Switching back to TexCat

[Pleonast]

I'm not sure I'll be able to post again before end of Day.

I recommend putting Kaiveran and TexCat as the vote leaders.

[Mahaloth]

TexCat has not voted and his 5 posts have contributed almost nothing. Great way to slide through Day 1.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Simon Templar

Okay, we are a bit light on content at the moment so I will attempt to provide some.

BC's early vote--I think I remember him doing this before, although maybe not as the very first post on the very first day. Since he has no reason to really vote me out I'm treating it as a joke vote, although it could also be a "see who else jumps on" or "see who leaps to Simon's defense" kind of vote. No lean. (Pico de gallo?)

Mendie seems into the whole explosion thing what with a blastoff burger etc. Bit leery of her atm but it's early yet. She has a lot of posts so that's a good sign.

Pleonast--no recipe (glazed eyeballs? Okay no) I am a little suspicious of for not claiming anything. There is nothing to jump on except putting "chat" in quotes. A bit of suspicion for the vanilla townie thing.

Mahaloth (spaghetti sauce) is a player I often find hard to read. I am not leaning town at the moment. Also FOS for using canned tomatoes here, for shame. And with a cedar chest full of actual virtual tomatoes. So far, food talk, very little game talk beyond observation that it seems to be a normal game.

LightFoot (cheese and tomato sandwich with homemade tomato soup, sounds yummy) also no game content as yet.

Swammerdami (Caesar salad) has done some thinking about the game state, which I appreciate. Also helpfully provided a player list. But Swammi is a wily player so I'm reserving judgment.

And I just realized I am typing the kind of post I hate to read with a bunch of stuff about different players all lined up and threatening to become a wall. More later.

Originally Posted by Simon Templar

Point the first: thinks recipes could contain mafia-sign (post #15)

Point the second: did not submit recipe

Conclusion: Fears any recipe submitted could inadvertently reveal mafia-sign

This is a real vote, but it could change, depending on discussion. Will check back no later than four hours from the deadline. There are other players I might vote for and a couple I would not.

Originally Posted by Simon Templar

Let's make it a real wagon. Third vote!

Originally Posted by Simon Templar

I disagree that I'm verbose. That actually hurts my feelings.

I am playing the game, and if you guys want to Lynch the Loudmouth instead of the Lurker, that makes me worry for the state of the game, because a lot of discussion is better for town.

I assume that nobody wants to hear my verbose reasons for the Kaiveran vote.

Originally Posted by guiri

Go on, I’d like to hear, assuming it’s more than just forming a counter wagon.

You gave hedged comments on a bunch of people, voted one, then moved to Kai, who was not in your list, will you explain, however verbose or succinct you wish @Simon Templar

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Swammerdami

If Mr. Templar is indeed who I think he is, then HE is the cleverest scum in the jungle, consistently fooling me. I'll wait 2 or 3 Days before voting to Yeet him, just to better accumulate evidence.

I’m a little torn on this, if some portion of the players know who’s behind the sock and that player’s meta, while others have no idea, is the player using the sock achieving anything? Should the players who know who’s behind the sock not share to allow an even playing field? Or does not recognising the sock automatically mean not knowing that player’s meta and so revealing the suspected or true identify is meaningless?

[Simon Templar]

Originally Posted by guiri

Go on, I’d like to hear, assuming it’s more than just forming a counter wagon.

I don't really want Kaiveran out of the game because this is a player who is fun. But I've gotten a lot of pings. For legal purposes, these are D1 guesses in a guessing game.

I just tried to pull things out of a couple of the Kaiveran walls (note that I like how they break up the walls and use colour to highlight things but it still makes it very hard to bring up meaningful quotes). Anyway I made a right botch of it and then my cat stepped on my keyboard and the whole thing went blank before I could fix it.

First, smudging LightFoot, for a single post where she gave her recipe, by saying that it looked familiar to posts by scum!LF in the previous game.

Second, smudging BC for the early joke vote/unvote and saying BC did that before I had even posted. I did post in between BC's vote and unvote so that was incorrect, I think a naked vote deserves a naked unvote. And earlier in the same wall Kai had seemed to approve of the joke vote. Although it's hard to tell, said approval having been granted via a quote and a Youtube video in response. (I do not click on those so I could be way off base here.)

Third, Kai referenced getting clawed in the jugular in their last game. Well they were scum and got mech outed N1 so it was a righteous claw. So that sorta pinged me, as they say.

Fourth, Kai smudged me, for the breadcrumb thing.

There is more, but then Kai voted for Mahaloth, who had no other votes, and thus seems a very safe place to park a nonthreatening D1 vote. That's where my vote came from.

There is more, but I don't want to be verbose.

I will say that right now I am a vote leader, and I think my wagon is pure. I'm saying I believe that of those voting for me, I don't think they know how I will flip. Exception might be Swammi. Kaiveran is my top suspect. TexCat is also up there. Mendie also on my short list, because it looks like she is throwing in a lot of non-game content and possibly hiding behind her slightly used sock.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

Uh, I was just putting a no-reason vote. I don't actually have any suspects here and I don't think we need a train/bandwagon buildng up here.

I dislike this, can you explain a little more your thought process about the original vote and then the reason to unvote?

[Simon Templar]

Originally Posted by guiri

You gave hedged comments on a bunch of people, voted one, then moved to Kai, who was not in your list, will you explain, however verbose or succinct you wish @Simon Templar

Those were not hedged comments, how can you say that? I get into trouble when I try to force reads. If I said "no lean" I meant I had no lean as of the time of the post. I was gonna go through everyone, then reconsidered, and gave my reason for that, too.

I'm thinking I should just not post at all!

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

Everyone has posted at this point(I just checked).

Of the two lowest posters, Dizzy comes off pretty good because of the day 1 overview post, which seems pretty good.

I have to give Lightfoot credit as well since it was LF that pointed out to me that I needed to post the "what you do with the ingredients" portion of the recipe. I had somehow missed that was important, thought the whole thing was ingredient based.

Anyway, I wouldn't support execute the lurker in this game because both of the two lowest posters are not just posting pure fluff or anything.

No new leads, but at least an examination. I guess Lightfoot hasn't been too helpful aside from telling me to post my "recipe directions" or whatever they are called?

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

TexCat has not voted and his 5 posts have contributed almost nothing. Great way to slide through Day 1.

Is she not a lurker? What was your criteria because as far as I can see, at the time of your first post, Texcat had 5 posts, Lightfoot 4 and Dizzy 3?

[Simon Templar]

This is basically a self-pres in case we're tied, and I'm possibly not able to get back by EoD.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Simon Templar

Those were not hedged comments, how can you say that? I get into trouble when I try to force reads. If I said "no lean" I meant I had no lean as of the time of the post. I was gonna go through everyone, then reconsidered, and gave my reason for that, too.

I'm thinking I should just not post at all!

Is hedged not the word? Just reads like you have null leans on everyone mentioned. To be fair re-reading it’s a little more nuanced than that, but effectively:
- BC no lean
- Mendie is sus but too early
- Pleo no claim but claimed vanilla
- Maha is your only read, but he’s hard to read
- Lightfoot null
- Swammi good but you’re reserving judgment

But then in your next post you say “ There are other players I might vote for and a couple I would not.” but apart from maybe Mahaloth, I’ve no idea who that might be.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Simon Templar

I don't really want Kaiveran out of the game because this is a player who is fun. But I've gotten a lot of pings. For legal purposes, these are D1 guesses in a guessing game.

I just tried to pull things out of a couple of the Kaiveran walls (note that I like how they break up the walls and use colour to highlight things but it still makes it very hard to bring up meaningful quotes). Anyway I made a right botch of it and then my cat stepped on my keyboard and the whole thing went blank before I could fix it.

First, smudging LightFoot, for a single post where she gave her recipe, by saying that it looked familiar to posts by scum!LF in the previous game.

Second, smudging BC for the early joke vote/unvote and saying BC did that before I had even posted. I did post in between BC's vote and unvote so that was incorrect, I think a naked vote deserves a naked unvote. And earlier in the same wall Kai had seemed to approve of the joke vote. Although it's hard to tell, said approval having been granted via a quote and a Youtube video in response. (I do not click on those so I could be way off base here.)

Third, Kai referenced getting clawed in the jugular in their last game. Well they were scum and got mech outed N1 so it was a righteous claw. So that sorta pinged me, as they say.

Fourth, Kai smudged me, for the breadcrumb thing.

There is more, but then Kai voted for Mahaloth, who had no other votes, and thus seems a very safe place to park a nonthreatening D1 vote. That's where my vote came from.

There is more, but I don't want to be verbose.

I will say that right now I am a vote leader, and I think my wagon is pure. I'm saying I believe that of those voting for me, I don't think they know how I will flip. Exception might be Swammi. Kaiveran is my top suspect. TexCat is also up there. Mendie also on my short list, because it looks like she is throwing in a lot of non-game content and possibly hiding behind her slightly used sock.

Actually you make some good points here.

I also used the “Simon did not post between BC’s vote and unvote” reasoning but did not go back and verify that was correct, my bad.

The Lightfoot “fillery posts” was a smudge.

You’re also correct about the being clawed, when he was killed by his teammates due to their target hiding behind him, I think.

I already commented on the being pocketed by Meeko when it was the other way around.

Meh, this is certainly better than my earlier impression of the case on Kai. Thanks.