Masks at Midnight - Day 1

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by guiri

How does any of this line up with your claimed role and N0 result?

I mean, if I knew that much, I wouldn't have posted, well, any of that.

And I mean, I came close to saying it was a bong hit post.

Just throwing it out there. If I could throw other things out there, I would have. Would be more helpful to the game, apparently. But, I'm kinda, I mean, I'm essentially vanilla now, or less, if I am the Patsy, right? So.



But seriously, apparently I'm the only pessimist of the bunch.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

Meeko is probably scum.

Would you like to provide more, or perhaps any Cont.....


Oh wait, that's right, you are the one that doesn't provide any context at all.

Ever.

[Bicycle Repair Man]

Was the player list order randomly assigned? Would a player on the list next to the Therapist at game start be just as likely to be Scum as any random other player?

[Mordenkainen]

Originally Posted by guiri

What if Pleo is the Patsy?

A thought that occurred to me some time later.

[Red Skeezix]

Originally Posted by Bicycle Repair Man

Was the player list order randomly assigned? Would a player on the list next to the Therapist at game start be just as likely to be Scum as any random other player?

no comment

[Pleonast]

No one has been nominated for execution yet? What a bunch of slackers.

nominate: LightFoot
for being the only player not to make any sort of claim at all.

[Pleonast]

Players who posted after nominations were available, but did not nominate:
Bicycle Repair Man: 2 posts
LightFoot: 1
guiri: 2
Meeko: 3
Mordenkainen: 1

A question to each of you:
As a Town player, why did you decide to not nominate when you had the chance, but instead let the opportunity go to a potential Scum?

[Bicycle Repair Man]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Players who posted after nominations were available, but did not nominate:
Bicycle Repair Man: 2 posts
LightFoot: 1
guiri: 2
Meeko: 3
Mordenkainen: 1

A question to each of you:
As a Town player, why did you decide to not nominate when you had the chance, but instead let the opportunity go to a potential Scum?

Nominated players may only be nominated once per Day. If absolved, they may not be nominated again in the same Day cycle. There are only 24 hours to reach a majority on this vote or Lightfoot is absolved forever toDay.

We are now committed to voting Lightfoot in the next 24 hours or not at all toDay. I do not have anything against Lightfoot other than not playing much, which is fairly common and understandable at the moment, and her not claiming a role.

I get the desire to rush pell-mell into trying to make something, ANYTHING, happen. I get the desire to be on the offense. I am pretty sure you are Town, Pleo. I think Meeko is Town because I cannot see him making up his claim on the fly even if he is Scum Spy. I look upon guiri and Mahaloth's claims with favor.

I would like to hear more commentary from some less vocal players. Lightfoot is now under the gun and I am not sure why this is helpful but I guess we will see.

[guiri]

It didn’t click that only one player could be nominated at a time. Lightfoot’s a fair candidate.

[Mordenkainen]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

As a Town player, why did you decide to not nominate when you had the chance, but instead let the opportunity go to a potential Scum?

Speaking for myself.

I decided early on that I would not nominate or vote for someone until I had reread and somewhat internalised the voting rules. I have now done so, particularly the important bits.

I reviewed LightFoot's participation to date.
N0: She first abandoned her initial tack and hoped benefits might arise from claiming (what does POE stand for?), reacted with disappointment when Red S refused to confirm or deny the possibility of multiple instances of one role, and retired for the night.
D1: Quotes the Publicist role for later reference, then comes in at about 4:30am (all times BST, but that seems to translate to 8:30pm local) dead tired, although she notes she believes one person has lied about their role.

Now, because Pleo has nominated LightFoot, we have until 2:15pm tomorrow to devide to lynch, or she will be absolved. I'm going to hold off on that until the wee hours, as I want to see some participation from her before I decide. This, right now, feels like lynching the lurker in a chaotic rl period for them.

[guiri]

I guess the problem with waiting till the wee hours is that we might not have time to nominate and get sufficient votes on the alternative. It’s not clear what happens if someone is nominated with less than 24 hours in the Day.

“If 24 hrs have passed without a majority decision on the nomination, the player will be absolved.”

If a player is nominated with less than 24 remaining in the Day and they do not receive a majority of either absolve or execute votes, are they executed or absolved at EoD?

[Red Skeezix]

Originally Posted by guiri

If a player is nominated with less than 24 remaining in the Day and they do not receive a majority of either absolve or execute votes, are they executed or absolved at EoD?

If the day clock runs out, they are absolved.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by guiri

How does any of this line up with your claimed role and N0 result?

I'm not sure I fully understand what you are after.

1. Are you trying to sew dissent?

2. Uh, because I fear that not only is there a patsy in play, but that I might be it [apropos of nothing] --- and if I am a patsy, (or not), I think we should remain cognizant that some things will be off.

Hence, I am just saying, that at all times, one should be aware, that what they have, is indeed, NOT what they have.

Unless you have information that I am not a patsy?

[Meeko]

What are all the ways that a nomination can be resolved? Are we essentially locked into LightFoot _Only_ for today?

[Red Skeezix]

Originally Posted by Meeko

What are all the ways that a nomination can be resolved? Are we essentially locked into LightFoot _Only_ for today?

This is not a specific enough question for me to be able to answer. If you have a specific scenario, that youbelieve is not adequately covered in the rules, please feel free to rephrase and reask

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Red Skeezix

This is not a specific enough question for me to be able to answer. If you have a specific scenario, that youbelieve is not adequately covered in the rules, please feel free to rephrase and reask

Can Pleonast remove the nomination and therefore the voes on LightFoot?

[Pleonast]

Here's how it goes.

1. Day starts.
2. 24-hour wait.
3. Nominations start.
4. First person to be nominated is open to be voted.
5. Within 24 hours or End of Day:
5a. Nominee gets majority of players voting and is executed. Go to step 6.
5b. Nominee gets majority of players voting absolve and players is absolved. Go back to step 3.
6. End of Day.

[Pleonast]

Forgot to add that once you're nominated, you can't be nominated again the same Day.

But we're going to run out of time quickly. And I typically have no time on weekends to play, so don't expect me to react in anything like a timely manner.

[guiri]

Originally Posted by Meeko

I'm not sure I fully understand what you are after.

1. Are you trying to sew dissent?

2. Uh, because I fear that not only is there a patsy in play, but that I might be it [apropos of nothing] --- and if I am a patsy, (or not), I think we should remain cognizant that some things will be off.

Hence, I am just saying, that at all times, one should be aware, that what they have, is indeed, NOT what they have.

Unless you have information that I am not a patsy?

You’re correct. The fact that your role told you that one of three players is the patsy does not exclude the possibility that you, and everyone is, is also a Patsy, so your info in incorrect. It was too much of a logic jump for me to consider but I’ll concede it’s not impossible. My thinking was that your power and result would exclude the multiple patsy theory but sure, we could all be patsies…

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by guiri

You’re correct. The fact that your role told you that one of three players is the patsy does not exclude the possibility that you, and everyone is, is also a Patsy, so your info in incorrect. It was too much of a logic jump for me to consider but I’ll concede it’s not impossible. My thinking was that your power and result would exclude the multiple patsy theory but sure, we could all be patsies…

Originally Posted by Meeko

All of that to say we can go two routes here.

The Meeko route : Hey guys, what if we are all Patsises?!

No, Guiri, don't "go there!"

Because, if

You go there, you're lost forever,

If I go there, I'll lose my way.

And if we stay here, we're not together.

Wait.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

But we're going to run out of time quickly.

The problem is, as someone else stated we don't want to be pell-mell about it.

[[Which, aside from knowing it was a brand of ciggarettes, I didn't know this term until when I saw it earlier today [Friday] ]]

That said, in an effort to speed things up, I'm 8.5-9 / 10 of the way from stating that Pleonast is lock town.

[Mahaloth]

I also can see Lightfoot as a potential elimination.

[Mahaloth]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Here's how it goes.

1. Day starts.
2. 24-hour wait.
3. Nominations start.
4. First person to be nominated is open to be voted.
5. Within 24 hours or End of Day:
5a. Nominee gets majority of players voting and is executed. Go to step 6.
5b. Nominee gets majority of players voting absolve and players is absolved. Go back to step 3.
6. End of Day.

That's the cycle/system? I do not think I understood that even if it was clear.

This seems very strange.

[TexCat]

Pleo has a list of 3 names and knows (unless he's the Patsy) that 1 of them is scum, and yet he nominates LF. Doesn't seem right to me.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by TexCat

Pleo has a list of 3 names and knows (unless he's the Patsy) that 1 of them is scum, and yet he nominates LF. Doesn't seem right to me.

I need more from you here.

We did conclude that there are no off boards of any kind, right?

are you saying that Pleo, and the other three are all scum?

Like, I'd follow all of this, in a "regular" game, but did you update this logic, this math, against the rules we have in the immediate game?

[guiri]

Originally Posted by TexCat

Pleo has a list of 3 names and knows (unless he's the Patsy) that 1 of them is scum, and yet he nominates LF. Doesn't seem right to me.

It’s reasonable to think Pleo would have been the a likely target for the Publicist N0 so it’s fair for him to take his result with a pinch of salt.

[TexCat]

Ahhh. I forgot that Pleo could have been the target of the Publicist.
I would like to hear from LF. I assume I can unvote?

[Bashorian Clement]

Meeko what was the exchange between Pleonast and you?

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

Meeko what was the exchange between Pleonast and you?

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Message received from Meeko:
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Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine Wine



=

I mean, I would have to assume that there is plenty of " Wine " left for you to have some as well.

[Mordenkainen]

At this point I'm waiting to hear from LightFoot before voting for them.

I'm generally opposed to lynching low-volume posters in the early game (usually D1 or D2, but maybe less this game).

Owoing to my uncertainty over whether unvotes are permitted, I'll also hold off to see Red Skeezik's response to Texcat's question. I still have some 12 hours before decision time.

[Bashorian Clement]

Mordenkainen is probably scum.

[Bicycle Repair Man]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

Mordenkainen is probably scum.

Can you acknowledge that Meeko is probably not Scum?

[Red Skeezix]

Originally Posted by TexCat

Ahhh. I forgot that Pleo could have been the target of the Publicist.
I would like to hear from LF. I assume I can unvote?

Yeah I'm fine with that, I didn't put it in the rules, but can you use red and bold if you are unvoting?

[Bashorian Clement]

Originally Posted by Bicycle Repair Man

Can you acknowledge that Meeko is probably not Scum?

If I thought that sure. There's more than one though right.

[guiri]

I make it 3 votes to execute Lightfoot and 1 vote to absolve, with around 3 hours before the 24 hours expire.

[Bicycle Repair Man]

As far as I can see, voting Absolve and not voting are the same.




Because something does need to happen.

[Mordenkainen]

I still see no case against LightFoot.

She did say that she believed someone had lied in one of her posts, and I'd like to see what she has to say about that. In the interim, and given my general dislike of lynching lurkers D1: -

absolve LightFoot

[Bicycle Repair Man]

Originally Posted by Mordenkainen

I still see no case against LightFoot.

She did say that she believed someone had lied in one of her posts, and I'd like to see what she has to say about that. In the interim, and given my general dislike of lynching lurkers D1: -

absolve LightFoot

What case do you see? Whom do you propose instead? How do you see us going forward if we do not vote Lightfoot?

[Red Skeezix]

After 24 hours, the nomination for lightfoot failed to garner enough votes for execution, therefore the nomination fails. No more votes for lightfoot will be accepted today

[guiri]

Ok, so Lightfoot is safe for toDay. Before nominating someone new, I can propose my top three candidates:
Raven, for being the second last to claim and doing little else to solve the game
Mordenkainen, partially Pleo’s result and the about-turn on the existence of a publicist, partially the for being far too reasonable with Lightfoot
TexCat, for believing Meeko’s role without question, and for her #16

[guiri]

I’d not wish to nominate any of these players toDay:
Meeko - claimed Gossip
Mahaloth - my result, claimed Seer
Colby - my result
Bashorian - claimed child
Bicycle Repair Man - partial claim
Pleonast - first to claim, first to share results

And on re-read, TexCat did not accept Meeko’s claim without question, my bad, it was Pleo’s.

[guiri]

Nominate: Raventhief


Is it just me or does the giraffeboards url not work for anyone else?

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by guiri

Nominate: Raventhief


Is it just me or does the giraffeboards url not work for anyone else?

I had issues just now, too, yes.

[Biotop]

Originally Posted by guiri

I’d not wish to nominate any of these players toDay:
Meeko - claimed Gossip
Mahaloth - my result, claimed Seer
Colby - my result
Bashorian - claimed child
Bicycle Repair Man - partial claim
Pleonast - first to claim, first to share results

And on re-read, TexCat did not accept Meeko’s claim without question, my bad, it was Pleo’s.

I agree with this list and would add your name to it.

And yes Giraffe has been difficult to access all morning.

[guiri]

I wonder if that vote counts…

[Mahaloth]

I also would support nominating and executing raventhief.

[Mahaloth]

Originally Posted by guiri

I’d not wish to nominate any of these players toDay:
Meeko - claimed Gossip
Mahaloth - my result, claimed Seer
Colby - my result
Bashorian - claimed child
Bicycle Repair Man - partial claim
Pleonast - first to claim, first to share results
.

Agreed.

[Bashorian Clement]

[Red Skeezix]

Originally Posted by Biotop

I agree with this list and would add your name to it.

And yes Giraffe has been difficult to access all morning.

raventhief

I don't allow folks who aren't in the game to vote.

[Bicycle Repair Man]

Sorry. Biotop is another version of me.