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Old 22nd January 2010, 10:22 AM
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Ask the kilt wearin' man

Inspired by HongKongFooey, I humbly submit this thread for your amusement, bemusement, or mockery.

I wear a kilt (a real kilt and not one of those dammed utili-kilts) at least once a month, usually more. In public. Proudly.

Anything you'd like to know? Beyond the obvious (the answer is "shoes and socks")?
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Old 22nd January 2010, 10:23 AM
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What kind of sporran do you sport?
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Old 22nd January 2010, 10:27 AM
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What kind of sporran do you sport?
The full-dress one is long horsehair, black with white tassels. It's purely for show, it doesn't actually open into a pouch. Other than full-fress (the majority of the time) I use one that's black leather with black leather tassels. Understaed but classic.
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Old 22nd January 2010, 10:28 AM
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Old 22nd January 2010, 10:29 AM
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Hey awesome. Are you Scottish? Do you wear your family tartan?
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Old 22nd January 2010, 10:31 AM
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Can't say that I am. They are not knobby.
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Old 22nd January 2010, 10:31 AM
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Anything you'd like to know? Beyond the obvious (the answer is "shoes and socks")?
I thought the correct answer was, "Yer wife's lipstick!"
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Old 22nd January 2010, 10:33 AM
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Anything you'd like to know? Beyond the obvious (the answer is "shoes and socks")?
My favorite response to the Standard Question is "Your wife's lipstick" (substituting the most (in)appropriate possible close female relation as necessary).

Second place, "Nothing is worn under the kilt. It's all in perfect working order."
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Old 22nd January 2010, 10:34 AM
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Hey awesome. (1) Are you Scottish? (2) Do you wear your family tartan?
(1) Scottish enough. I'm an American of mixed cultural heritage, but roughly 25% Scot. (2) No, I'm in a band and wear the band tartan. Cameron.
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Old 22nd January 2010, 10:34 AM
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I wear a kilt (a real kilt and not one of those dammed utili-kilts) at least once a month, usually more.
Why?

What do you get out of a kilt that you can't get from a good pair of long, baggy shorts?
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Old 22nd January 2010, 10:36 AM
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I thought the correct answer was, "Yer wife's lipstick!"
Depending on the circumstances, yes.
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Old 22nd January 2010, 10:37 AM
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Why?

What do you get out of a kilt that you can't get from a good pair of long, baggy shorts?
1. Chicks dig it. Seriously. (No, seriously.)

2. A brisk breeze is surprisingly refreshing!

3. Chicks dig it.
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Old 22nd January 2010, 10:42 AM
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(1) Scottish enough. I'm an American of mixed cultural heritage, but roughly 25% Scot. (2) No, I'm in a band and wear the band tartan. Cameron.
I see a lot of throwers at the highland games wearing the Cameron tartan. Are you pipes or drums?
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Old 22nd January 2010, 10:46 AM
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My husband's rugby team has kilts that they wear to formal functions. Most of the guys wear something under the kilt. I'm thinking that if you wear something under the kilt, then it's just a skirt.
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Old 22nd January 2010, 10:48 AM
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Are you pipes or drums?
Drum!
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Old 22nd January 2010, 10:49 AM
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Then I would happily be a skirt-wearing man.
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Old 22nd January 2010, 10:50 AM
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My husband's rugby team has kilts that they wear to formal functions. Most of the guys wear something under the kilt. I'm thinking that if you wear something under the kilt, then it's just a skirt.
I, personally, would never tell a rugby player he was wearing a skirt.

"You know why they call it a kilt and not a skirt? Because the last guy who called it a skirt... I kilt 'im!!"
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Old 22nd January 2010, 11:06 AM
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Hubby wore a kilt to our wedding, and used to do so when attending renaissance faires and sci fi con.. but the "whole nine yards" historical type kilt.. not too much anymore.. he now says that he wants a utilia kilt, but the deal was if we were spending the money, he had to stabalize his weight, so we didn't waste the cash... so far now that he is down to 220, he hasn't mentioned it...

Do you find that people tend to give you alot of attention when you wear your kilt? hubby has been in the paper multiple times because of it. (our wedding, because it was interesting and a slow news day, and at sci fi cons I think more than once)
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Old 22nd January 2010, 11:20 AM
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Do you find that people tend to give you alot of attention when you wear your kilt?
Yes. People always notice something out of the ordinary. Wearing a kilt is just enough out of the ordinary to draw attention, but not (depending on who you ask, anyway) weird.
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Old 22nd January 2010, 12:36 PM
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Is your band playing a Burns night? My local Scottish group is having ours tomorrow night. Good times!
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Old 22nd January 2010, 12:47 PM
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1. Chicks dig it. Seriously. (No, seriously.)

2. A brisk breeze is surprisingly refreshing!

3. Chicks dig it.
Chicks also dig shopping for shoes with gay guys.


Not to imply a kilt is gay... I'm just sayin'....
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Old 22nd January 2010, 12:55 PM
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Is your band playing a Burns night? My local Scottish group is having ours tomorrow night. Good times!
Not the whole band, but our pipers do one-off gigs like this occasionally. I'm not sure if any are doing a Burns night soon though.

Haggis = IMHO. Sorry.
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Old 22nd January 2010, 01:03 PM
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Yeah, but they don't blow them in the car on the way home.
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Old 22nd January 2010, 01:07 PM
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Yeah, but they don't blow them in the car on the way home.
Well, maybe if they're going for the conversion.
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Old 22nd January 2010, 02:35 PM
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Since Colonel Plink hasn't peeked in yet, I'm gonna' steal his favorite kilt story.

While attending Colorado's premier Highlands Festival one year, Plink struck up a conversation with a Scotsman (the conversation was about walking sticks, as I recall). At one point Plink, satisfied that he'd made sufficient inroads with his new friend, asked, "So, what do you tell people who ask you what you wear under your kilt?" The Scot stroked his mustache and grinned, then replied, "Your sister's lipstick!"
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Old 22nd January 2010, 03:26 PM
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Yeah, but they don't blow them in the car on the way home.
That's because they aren't wearing a kilt.
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Old 22nd January 2010, 04:54 PM
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I have a kilt I used to wear at Ren Faires. Not a sewn jobbie, one of the old-style long (long) lengths of cloth that you pleat and belt around you, with a pin to hold the leftover ends that form the sash. It's kind of cool to know how to do one of those great-kilts. Pretty simple to do, though a bit of a pain in the ass to arrange properly. Takes you a while to get dressed, but only a second to get undressed. Take out the pin, undo your belt and—bam—you're naked from the waist down.

I tried to find one that was close to my great-grandmother's clan and managed to get a nice loomed 80/20 wool blend that is pretty close to the Ancient pattern on that page. The Modern Gow pattern looks like crap, I think; like a cheap flannel shirt.

One note, if you don't get an appropriate shirt with a long tail, you can have chafing problems as…sensitive parts rub against the wool sometimes.

Chicks do dig it. I've got a story about one memorable time, even. A friend of mine introduced me to a girl he knew who worked at one of the booths there. After we were introduced and talked a bit, she flirtatiously asked if I was wearing anything under my kilt. I said, "See for yourself." She took my dare and started sliding her hand up my leg, all the way up to my thigh. She got all the way up to just about there before her nerve broke and blushingly whipped her hand back.

She said, "I thought you'd stop me before I got that far."

"Why the hell would I stop a pretty girl like you from reaching for anything she wants to touch under my kilt. By the way, I think what you were looking for was a little higher and to the right."

Unfortunately, my friend was kind of into the girl and cock-blocked me later. Otherwise, that might have been a good ice-breaker for further developments.
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Old 22nd January 2010, 05:06 PM
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Perhaps a bit of an awkward question, but do you kilt-wearing folk ever feel a bit weird when meeting people from Scotland? This may be projecting just a tad but I'd never feel comfortable wearing, say, a cowboy hat in Texas (or anyplace else, for that matter) just because it isn't really 'mine'.

This thread did make me curious enough to look up tartans though. I'm about 30% Scottish extraction from way back. I'd never wear the tartan I found though it's actually quite lovely. Some of 'em--whoa.
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Old 22nd January 2010, 05:17 PM
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Perhaps a bit of an awkward question, but do you kilt-wearing folk ever feel a bit weird when meeting people from Scotland?
I don't wear a kilt myself but I attend quite a few Highland Games events and there are always a lot of Scottish folk in attendance. The Scots certainly identify with the kilts but the only time I've ever sensed any awkwardness was from the lifters who aren't Scottish but who are wearing the tartans of some clan and they get asked why they picked it. I'm sure they only ever pick them because they like the look or that was what they could afford but they don't want to insult the clan of the person asking. Overall though it never appears to be much of an issue but as I said I don't wear one myself.

I'm descended from Scottish horse thieves. Probably best to keep it quiet in case there's some long harboured grudge lurking out there.
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I've never worn one at a Highland Games type venue, just the Renaissance Faire, where costuming as anyone from anywhere (preferably in-period) is expected and appropriate. I do have a family connection, though tenuous, so I probably wouldn't actually be embarrassed to wear one, but I might feel self-conscious because I don't know any of the connected social stuff.

I ran into a Scottish guy here in Japan when I wore a kilt as part of a Halloween costume; I was a sort-of Braveheart guy. The only thing he had to say about it was that he was impressed. According to him, great-kilts are serious old-style buggers that almost no one wears anymore, and he thought it was pretty cool that I'd gone to the trouble of figuring out how to wear one.
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Not the whole band, but our pipers do one-off gigs like this occasionally. I'm not sure if any are doing a Burns night soon though.

Haggis = IMHO. Sorry.
Don't be sorry -I can't stand the stuff. My best friend goes with me as my "date," because she's a freak who loves it. We refer to this as "2 chicks at a sausage party."
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Chicks dig kilts in an entirely different way than they dig shoe-shopping with gay guys.
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Chicks do dig it. I've got a story about one memorable time, even. A friend of mine introduced me to a girl he knew who worked at one of the booths there. After we were introduced and talked a bit, she flirtatiously asked if I was wearing anything under my kilt. I said, "See for yourself." She took my dare and started sliding her hand up my leg, all the way up to my thigh. She got all the way up to just about there before her nerve broke and blushingly whipped her hand back.

She said, "I thought you'd stop me before I got that far."

"Why the hell would I stop a pretty girl like you from reaching for anything she wants to touch under my kilt. By the way, I think what you were looking for was a little higher and to the right."
My husband gets kilt-checked all the time (I know the gal doing it here, but strangers stick their hands up his kilt sometimes, too): http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...1/sodafeel.jpg
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Old 23rd January 2010, 11:27 AM
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Old 23rd January 2010, 11:56 AM
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Perhaps a bit of an awkward question, but do you kilt-wearing folk ever feel a bit weird when meeting people from Scotland? This may be projecting just a tad but I'd never feel comfortable wearing, say, a cowboy hat in Texas (or anyplace else, for that matter) just because it isn't really 'mine'.
No, never felt weird. Or awkward, or uncomfortable.

Because it is 'mine'. I have a legitamate reason to wear the kilt and the particular tartan that I do. It isn't an affectation. We (the band) take our music and performances very seriously. We're engaging in a cultural activity that, while I may not be 100% of that particular culture, we engage in faithfully and respectfully. I think people who are 100% of that culture see that. If someone wore one (or a cowboy hat) for no reason other than "chicks dig it!" yeah, that might be awkward. But while I do admit to enjoying the chick-digging, it's a fringe benefit and not the main reason for wearing it.

And they're not like gang colors, you won't get beaten up if you're wearing a tartan that isn't 'yours'. At least in the venues I frequent.
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Old 23rd January 2010, 12:15 PM
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the only time I've ever sensed any awkwardness was from the lifters who aren't Scottish but who are wearing the tartans of some clan and they get asked why they picked it.
This, mostly.

Much of what we do as a pipe band derives from the Brittish army (wiki). Scottish regiments wore a particular tartan, even though the members of the regiment obviously came from different clans. So they'd have their clan tartan and their regimental tartan. Although I am not of Clan Cameron, Cameron is my "band tartan". This is akin to wearing a regimental tartan that isn't your own personal clan tartan.

Tartans are similar to fraternity or sorority letters, or university alumni jackets, even military branch insignia. If you see someone wearing "yours", even if they're a stranger it's good to start up a conversation. Kindred spirit kind of thing. But imagine you asked someone why they were wearing "your" letters and they said "becuase chicks dig it!" Not so cool.
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Old 23rd January 2010, 12:20 PM
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My husband gets kilt-checked all the time (I know the gal doing it here, but strangers stick their hands up his kilt sometimes, too).
A lot of the time it is funny, even flattering, but occasionally... jeeez just keep your damn hands to yourself!! "Hey! A woman wearing a low-cut top! I think I'll grope her!" No. Bad idea. "Hey! That guy looks attractive! I think I'll grab his junk!" No. Also a bad idea.
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Having proven ties to a couple different clans, I'd not feel awkward wearing either the Graham or MacGregor tartan. Thing is, it's been researched. Just tossing on a color 'cuz it's purdy is kind of asking for awkwardness.
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A lot of the time it is funny, even flattering, but occasionally... jeeez just keep your damn hands to yourself!! "Hey! A woman wearing a low-cut top! I think I'll grope her!" No. Bad idea. "Hey! That guy looks attractive! I think I'll grab his junk!" No. Also a bad idea.
We had clan chief as the "honored guest" at our Highland Games one year, and he had these business cards that he'd hand out:

Thank you for your interst in Scottish heritage and culture. If you are interested in more information about the inner workings of the kilt, I am in Room ___ at _____Hotel.
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The Superhero has ancestral ties to the Gordon tartan, which he and his groomsmen wore at our wedding. Here is some photographic evidence.
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"Why the hell would I stop a pretty girl like you from reaching for anything she wants to touch under my kilt. By the way, I think what you were looking for was a little higher and to the right."
Let me guess. That line didn't work.
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Have you ever passed out on a roadside, only to wake up with a blue ribbon tied round yer unit?
Uh.... no.

And sorry, I'm not that hip. To what are you alluding?
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Uh.... no.

And sorry, I'm not that hip. To what are you alluding?

Really? I thought it was a rather famous filk/folk song.


THE SCOTSMAN'S KILT
(Mike Cross?)

A Scotsman clad in kilt left the bar one evening fair
And one could tell by how he walked he'd drunk more than his share
He staggered on until he could no longer keep his feet
Then stumbled off into the grass to sleep beside the street.

cho: Ring ding diddle diddle i de o
Ring di diddle i o
He stumbled off into the grass to sleep beside the street.

Later on two young and lovely girls just happened by,
And one says to the other with a twinkle in her eye
You see yon sleeping Scotsman who is young and handsome built
I wonder if it's true what they don't wear beneath their kilt.

Ring ding diddle diddle i de o
Ring di diddle i o
I wonder if it's true what they don't wear beneath their kilt.
They crept up to the sleeping Scotsman quiet as could be
Then lifted up his kilt about an inch so they could see
And there behold for them to view beneath his Scottish skirt
Ws nothing but what God had graced him with upon his birth

Ring ding diddle diddle i de o
Ring di diddle i o
There was nothing there but what God gave upon his birth

They marveled for a moment then one said we'd best be gone
But let's leave a present for our friend before we move along
They took a blue silk ribbon and they tied it in a bow
Around the bonnie spar that the Scot's lifted kilt did show

Ring ding diddle diddle i de o
Ring di diddle i o
Around the bonnie spar that the Scot's lifted kilt did show

The Scotsman woke to nature's call and stumbled toward a tree
Behind a bush he lifts his kilt and gawks at what he sees
Then in a startled voice he says to what's before his eyes
He said, "Lad I don't know where you've been but I see you won
first prize"

Ring ding diddle diddle i de o
Ring di diddle i o
He said, "Lad I don't know where you've been but I see you won
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Let me guess. That line didn't work.
Unfortunately, no. But she did blush again, which I consider a moderate win.
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