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Old 1st July 2010, 09:10 AM
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Here's a couple guesses about what would happen to that Zack Lee Wright thread if it was in a forum with different rules. Everything from bigger trainwreck to not taking the OP seriously to nothing different would have happened at all.

I don't know if it would have changed, but neither does anyone else. All I can say about it, as I pointed out in the examples, is that *my* behavior would change. And it would be fun to see if anyone else's behavior would too, under a different set of rules. (A bit of a moot point now, but just trying to get back to answer people.)
And I ask you once again, because you seem to have ignored or otherwise missed this the first time : what, under the current Rule System, prevented any of this from happening? What do you perceive caused the ZLW thread to proceed the way it did? And I don't mean "well, duh, the rules here", I mean, give me specifics. What about THE RULES HERE prevented people from ignoring ZLW and saying "meh, he's trolling, back to the issue"?
What about THE RULES HERE caused you to act a certain way, and in what way would you personally have posted differently if there were No Rules Here? What would you personally have posted if there were No Rules Here?

It shouldn't be that difficult a question - I'm asking you what YOU would do and what YOU would've done, and how YOU perceive the rules affected the thread, not some amorphous "someone maybe somewhere." If you have an idea in mind that the rules prevented you from saying / doing / posting something, then I want to know exactly what you would've said / posted / done in your proposed "No Holds Barred" forum.
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Old 1st July 2010, 09:26 AM
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Yes but why does she want it that way?
I don't care. Honestly, Pencil, I in no way intend that as a slight toward you, but I spent a decent chunk of time asking that same question of roo, and I don't think she knows the 'why' behind the way she feels; she just feels it. Reasons, actual reasons, are invented on the fly.

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I'm asking you what YOU would do and what YOU would've done, and how YOU perceive the rules affected the thread, not some amorphous "someone maybe somewhere." If you have an idea in mind that the rules prevented you from saying / doing / posting something, then I want to know exactly what you would've said / posted / done in your proposed "No Holds Barred" forum.
:shakes head: No, no, DogMom. The Roous Domesticus does not respond well to confrontation. It tends to evade, accuse and look for alternative scapegoats rather than engage in active discussion of its own behavior. This is never about the Roo. Let us not forget that. It's about the way everyone else is behaving which causes the Roo such consternation.
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Old 1st July 2010, 09:41 AM
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Hey guys, let's create a forum where we can post whatever we like... just like in the Box, except we won't lock anyone in there.
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Old 1st July 2010, 09:41 AM
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I don't know if it would have changed, but neither does anyone else. All I can say about it, as I pointed out in the examples, is that *my* behavior would change. And it would be fun to see if anyone else's behavior would too, under a different set of rules. (A bit of a moot point now, but just trying to get back to answer people.)
If you think *your* behavior would change under a different forum environment, I will again suggest, even urge, you to try out starting some threads in the Box. Forget any stigma the forum might have. Forget whether it might bring people in who would then post in a different thread. It is a wide-open area with as few rules as you will get. If a staff member posts in your thread, they will be posting as a poster, not as someone telling you what you can and can't do. Forget about the previous almosts and non-guarantees; the staff has spelled out that while they are posting as posters, they will not bring rules into it. Heck, having a staff member post in your thread is a guarantee that they will not invoke rules on you - when that happens, another mod has to step in.

Try out your thought experiment. See how your behavior is in a wide-open forum. See how other people's behavior is. Go kick up your heels.
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Old 1st July 2010, 10:15 AM
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Here's a couple guesses about what would happen to that Zack Lee Wright thread if it was in a forum with different rules. Everything from bigger trainwreck to not taking the OP seriously to nothing different would have happened at all.

I don't know if it would have changed, but neither does anyone else. All I can say about it, as I pointed out in the examples, is that *my* behavior would change. And it would be fun to see if anyone else's behavior would too, under a different set of rules. (A bit of a moot point now, but just trying to get back to answer people.)
Except you've been given several testimonials from others here that, by and large, no one else's behaviour would change. Just yours, and maybe Ichigo's. And, FYI, Ichigo said she'd look into the Box, as per our suggestions.

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Thanks for the suggestion, but if I wanted to do that, I already would have.
If you're not willing to try the suggestions of a large contingent of active posters and moderators here, then how can you expect us take your issue seriously? We're providing solutions for your perceived problem. You're turning them down without providing solid reasons for it.

Let me make two requests. Please fulfill at least one of them.

1) You said you know your behaviour would change in your proposed forum. Please post here, in this thread, an example of your changed behaviour. Pretend you're responding to a past thread, if necessary. If you're worried that you will somehow get in trouble for it, because of these nebulously restricting rules here, I'll even volunteer to take the blame for it.

2) Please describe exactly what rules, specifically, are holding you back and how. You've been asked this several times by several posters. Try working with us, here.


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You're pleading with god about my posting on a message board? After you've repeatedly noted about how you have me on ignore?

If it gets you this upset, it's OK not to post to me, and to not click on the thread.
Believe it or not, I'm trying to help, in the hopes that I won't have to ignore you any longer. Be you gone, or finally happy with posting here, as long as you're no longer posting these bullshit suggestion threads and concerns, I'll be happy.
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Old 1st July 2010, 10:21 AM
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A "written guarantee"?

Are you stupider than I thought? I mean....you're posting on a message board, not buying a yacht.
Heh. I was just paraphrasing Giraffe's words.
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Is it officially unmoderated? No. No forum on this board is going to be guaranteed in writing to be free of moderation. Sorry.
I'm not sure why he put it like that either, but it did get the point across, which was good.

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Actually, IIRC, both Second Stone and I were asked by Haj to take our fight (which was disrupting the hell out of that thread) to the Pit if we wanted to continue. I suppose you could count that as an "adverse mod action" if you were a Rootard. Maybe. Sorta. (And note that I was included in the "adverse mod action" too)
Well, it would be something that wouldn't happen in the proposed forum.

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It's coming from the fact that she's either a concern troll or paranoid mental case.
It may seem like that to you. I know it's not true for myself, and hopefully, and I'm pretty sure of this by other responses that I've gotten, that it's not true to lots of other people.

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It started the moment Giraffe mentioned there would be mods and it manifested ~thirty five minutes after the the first mod action (which was to post a sticky essentially asking what the policy should be on spoilers in A&E on how to handle spoilers).
As for your quoted post, one you link to often, I hope you realize that it was tongue-in-cheek hyperbole. I think other people realize that. Your posts are often filled with hyperbole. I'd think you could recognize it in other people's posts.

That said, I did think there was quite a lot of mod action that day, the first day the mods were initiated. But I wasn't fearful about it.

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What's funny, is even in those brief, shining days before there were mods: when there was only Giraffe (and 7even?), there still were rules.
I'll take your word for this, but I'm not really sure about it. I seem to remember a time when Giraffe didn't get around to crafting a set of rules. I don't know the time frames, though.

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The rules haven't much changed much either and in one case, they've gotten looser (the Pit: there were much tighter rules about what was appropriate for The Pit and they've since loosened considerably. And, I'll note, Roo bitched about that change too.)
That's just untrue. I didn't complain about the change.
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Old 1st July 2010, 10:49 AM
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Well, it would be something that wouldn't happen in the proposed forum.
Wouldn't happen in the Box either.


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It may seem like that to you. I know it's not true for myself, and hopefully, and I'm pretty sure of this by other responses that I've gotten, that it's not true to lots of other people.
In what world are you living? You've had almost totally negative comments and many posters making CONCERN jokes.

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I'll take your word for this, but I'm not really sure about it. I seem to remember a time when Giraffe didn't get around to crafting a set of rules. I don't know the time frames, though.
There was a time where there were no rules expressly codified, but Giraffe stated very early what he expected.
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Old 1st July 2010, 11:01 AM
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There was a time where there were no rules expressly codified, but Giraffe stated very early what he expected.
For an example, here's a thread about mods started on March 2, 2009, pretty much at the start of things. So, apparently pretty much from teh get go, there were to be moderators, and rulz.
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Old 1st July 2010, 11:02 AM
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Well, it would be something that wouldn't happen in the proposed forum.
What wouldn't happen?

The disruption itself wouldn't happen? If the disruption wouldn't happen, explain why not.

Or are you saying the disruptors wouldn't be asked to leave? Because if that's the case, then I have two questions: one, if any thread could legally be hijacked to hell and back without repercussions, why would anybody choose to post any discussion there? And two, isn't this what already happens in the Box?
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Old 1st July 2010, 11:11 AM
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Christ. 4 pages?

This is a board where I could post a video of me shitting in Ann Coulter's moist, trembling mouth, (and I will if you're all not careful) and get away with it. I've been on the net since 1993 and have never been part of a more welcoming, permissive and liberal community than this.

Except the newsgroups. Yeah. To be fair, there's some stuff there I'm not proud of.

Roo - seriously - what is it that you want to say or post here that you think you can't? Or is this a post-count land-grab?
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Old 1st July 2010, 11:18 AM
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No, your statement was passive aggressive and dishonest. You phrased a sentence so that you couldn't be called on it in such vague terms it could mean anything. But at the same time the slightly ominous suggestion that there may have been people who left because their suggestions were ignored is typical Concern Trolling.
If that's the case, and I don't agree that it is, is it more honest of you to create a sentence I didn't say and asked me to provide cites for it?

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From day one you have been criticizing the modes and admins here for not making this the board you expect it to be.
How do I expect it to be?

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It was thread closing
That's an interesting example. I asked why a couple of threads were closed. I got a lot of push-back and told that "administrative" thread closings needed to take place.

But now it's standard practice here that threads are not closed. If it was going to be standard practice anyway, why all the upset that I brought a couple to their attention?

Fenris thought it was such a good idea that thread closings are not done here that he suggested it over on the SDMB. While I think it was a good idea at GB, I disagree with him that it would be a good idea at the SDMB. They have a lot of different competing interests to consider there.

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and how someone could be a mod on the Dope and here at the same time and so on, ad nauseam.
You're misremembering. I didn't have an opinion on that. I think it might have been mozg that voiced that issue.

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The problem is that you don't take it to the Pit so we can get a real trainwreck going. You simply don't have the stones for that.
You always have the option to take it to the Pit, if you choose.

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Perhaps you, as an individual, have made more complaints than the rest of the posting body combined. There may even be posters who left because they thought you made their time here less enjoyable.
Perhaps. And I've actually thought about that quite a bit.

After the Roo Pit threads a while back, I did wonder if all the people expressing their unhappiness would start posting more and if more people would join them.

You and FoN noted earlier in the thread that I posted in a way that you thought was suitable to your liking as to what people should post in the forum, and that I had done it for some amount of time:

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Roo has apparently been acting like a regular human being lately.
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For quite a while actually. Ever since the special Roole was created (don't remember the specifics).

But now Roo is concerned. Again.
And yet, during that time, I didn't see an increase in active member count or post count. There were over 300 active members (including socks dropping off) who left since March. Since the active member stats reflect the previous 30 days' activity, I watched the activity daily from April 23 onward. There was a drop of between 0 and 22 members every day during that time. There were a couple level days and 1 or 2 days with an increase of 1 or 2 with socks for the sock mafia until the last couple days, which showed an increase. And the post count in the past couple weeks has been roughly half of what it was last June.

The change in my activity (based on what you and FoN think is acceptable) didn't seem to bring an increase in the activity level or the amount of posters joining, or even the amount not leaving.
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Old 1st July 2010, 11:26 AM
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From day one you have been criticizing the modes and admins here for not making this the board you expect it to be.

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How do I expect it to be?

FUCK OFF, ROO.

AND WHOEVER TAGGED MY MEN'S ROOM THREAD (WHERE ROO HAS NEVER POSTED) WITH "ROO IS MY HERO" CAN FUCK RIGHT OFF WITH HER.
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Old 1st July 2010, 11:31 AM
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So your solution is to advocate that we continue to remove rules until membership increases? And if membership doesn't increase, we remove more rules?
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Old 1st July 2010, 11:34 AM
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And why do we need more members? I'm not saying they are not welcome but I didn't realize we were actively trying to increase the membership here. Also, there is no evidence that the reason people "left" is because of the rules. It's possible many people signed up for something new and shiny and then decided they just didn't have time for it or whatever. I don't recall anyone leaving in a huff over the rules.
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Old 1st July 2010, 11:57 AM
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AND WHOEVER TAGGED MY MEN'S ROOM THREAD (WHERE ROO HAS NEVER POSTED) WITH "ROO IS MY HERO" CAN FUCK RIGHT OFF WITH HER.
Yeah, I've seen them. I'll take care of it when I'm not someplace where naked men are frowned upon, BT.
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Old 1st July 2010, 11:58 AM
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I watched the activity daily from April 23 onward. There was a drop of between 0 and 22 members every day during that time. There were a couple level days and 1 or 2 days with an increase of 1 or 2 with socks for the sock mafia until the last couple days, which showed an increase. And the post count in the past couple weeks has been roughly half of what it was last June.
1. Why did you watch the activity daily from April 23 onward? To what end this bizarre data collection?

2. Seriously, this (see #1 above) is really how you want to spend your precious time on this earth and you don't see anything weird or wrong with it? Really?
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Old 1st July 2010, 12:08 PM
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1. Why did you watch the activity daily from April 23 onward? To what end this bizarre data collection?

2. Seriously, this (see #1 above) is really how you want to spend your precious time on this earth and you don't see anything weird or wrong with it? Really?
Yeah, that's more than a little disturbing. If the board dies, it dies. If it thrives, it thrives. It could maintain this exact level for infinity. What does it matter?

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Yeah, I've seen them. I'll take care of it when I'm not someplace where naked men are frowned upon, BT.
No such place exists I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALA

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Old 1st July 2010, 02:02 PM
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1. Why did you watch the activity daily from April 23 onward? To what end this bizarre data collection?

2. Seriously, this (see #1 above) is really how you want to spend your precious time on this earth and you don't see anything weird or wrong with it? Really?
I think we've found the identity of Statistician Nonny.
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Old 1st July 2010, 02:25 PM
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1. Why did you watch the activity daily from April 23 onward? To what end this bizarre data collection?
Because she's a creepy stalker freak. This isn't the first time she's done this.
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Old 1st July 2010, 02:28 PM
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1. Why did you watch the activity daily from April 23 onward? To what end this bizarre data collection?
So she can tell us that she was right, and that not making the changes she suggests are causing the board to flounder and die?

I dunno, I got nothin'
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Old 1st July 2010, 02:31 PM
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I watched the activity daily from April 23 onward. There was a drop of between 0 and 22 members every day during that time. There were a couple level days and 1 or 2 days with an increase of 1 or 2 with socks for the sock mafia until the last couple days, which showed an increase. And the post count in the past couple weeks has been roughly half of what it was last June.
Did you make a graph in Excel? Statistics are meaningless unless you make a graph.
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I think we've found the identity of Statistician Nonny.
and the origin of too.
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Old 1st July 2010, 02:54 PM
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So she can tell us that she was right, and that not making the changes she suggests are causing the board to flounder and die?

I dunno, I got nothin'
I'm just confused. At other times Roo has argued that in the absence of rules, social approbation chills free speech and Lord of the Flies type mob rule stops people from speaking freely. So I'm now not sure whether it's rules or the absence thereof - or even both - which she perceives as discouraging membership and/or participation here.

I don't know whether I'm for or against what she's proposing because I don't know what the hell it is. As far as I can tell, it's a forum along the lines of Something Awful's BYOB, but attempts to clarify that get met with waffle.

Someone needs to invent a Babelfish app to translate Roo-speak into plain English.
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Old 1st July 2010, 02:58 PM
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I don't mean to be direct, Roo. Please accept my most heartfelt apologies in advance.

I have a simple request of you. If you have the courage to reply exactly how I ask, you might be received on this issue differently than you have been so far. My request is simple, and it is a 2 step request:
  1. Quote my post without commentary or any editorial, just quote it
  2. Provide an example of the type of post you're wanting for this new forum of yours. Start with the thread title, and then write the post.

You can feel free to explain why this post would not be welcome or permitted in any other forum and why we should have a new forum for this kind of posting.

Now...do you have the courage or even the ability to respond? I doubt it, and I won't hold my breath...but please give it a shot!
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Wait, are people asking Roo serious specific questions and actually expecting useful answers? Roo, whose responses to questions make Alberto "I don't recall" Gonzales look like a model of memory, clarity and details?

...
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Old 1st July 2010, 03:08 PM
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Wait, are people asking Roo serious specific questions and actually expecting useful answers? Roo, whose responses to questions make Stoid look like a model of memory, clarity and details?

...
FTFY
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Old 1st July 2010, 03:16 PM
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[waste of oxygen]And yet, during that time, I didn't see an increase in active member count or post count.[/WoO]
Oh...



Oh..........




Take this





It's never been more appropriate.
Congrats, Giraffe, we now have our own official nutjob, as per your request.
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Old 1st July 2010, 03:20 PM
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I don't mean to be direct, Roo. Please accept my most heartfelt apologies in advance.

I have a simple request of you. If you have the courage to reply exactly how I ask, you might be received on this issue differently than you have been so far. My request is simple, and it is a 2 step request:
  1. Quote my post without commentary or any editorial, just quote it
  2. Provide an example of the type of post you're wanting for this new forum of yours. Start with the thread title, and then write the post.

You can feel free to explain why this post would not be welcome or permitted in any other forum and why we should have a new forum for this kind of posting.

Now...do you have the courage or even the ability to respond? I doubt it, and I won't hold my breath...but please give it a shot!
I'd settle for a link to the kind of free for all forum she has in mind. There are a shitload of messageboards which have at least one unmoderated forum, so it shouldn't be that hard to link to an example.

On some messageboards those forums are active enough to stand alone and have a core membership which rarely posts outside their "home" forum. On others, there's not enough activity to keep the regulars amused and so there's a lot of bleed-through to other forums. So the specific kind of no holds barred forum Roo envisages is pretty relevant here.

Right now her proposal sounds like "I want to conduct a social experiment for my own amusement and see whether changing the rules here changes board culture for better or worse - and I want more posters cos this place bores me".
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Old 1st July 2010, 03:39 PM
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FTFY
Ah, but here's your issue:

Stoid at least had all the details. She just ignored the inconvenient, case-busting ones in favor of the ones that made her feel empowered.

(She also thought dogs who were fat were unhappy. Yes, that's right -- she thought dogs were sentient.)
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Right now her proposal sounds like "I want to conduct a social experiment for my own amusement and see whether changing the rules here changes board culture for better or worse - and I want more posters cos this place bores me".
I was thinking more along the lines of:

"I want my own personal sandbox full of people who like me, and we play games and post fun stuff all day and it's always someone's birthday and I get the corner piece of cake and there are slides and a clown who makes balloon animals and it never rains and I never have to take a bath or brush my hair or do homework EVER YAY!"

I get the feeling Roo and Pippi Longstocking would get along fabulously until Pippi got tired of Roo's passive-aggressive garbage and marooned her on a desert island her pirate father had cleared of scorpions just for her.
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That IS concerning.
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I was thinking more along the lines of:

"I want my own personal sandbox full of people who like me, and we play games and post fun stuff all day and it's always someone's birthday and I get the corner piece of cake and there are slides and a clown who makes balloon animals and it never rains and I never have to take a bath or brush my hair or do homework EVER YAY!"
If a happy funtime place is all she wants, then her request that it be unmoderated and that there be a guarantee people wouldn't be banned for participating in it makes no sense.

Her initial request definitely came across to me as for something similar to the old-school SDMB Pit, but with fewer rules.
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A genuine question Roo

You've raised the issue of feeling uncomfortable about taking on the mods here. Do you genuinely believe that if you were to respond in kind to the comments which Fenris or Veb have directed your way in this thread that anything "worse" than you being asked to take it to the Pit or the Box would happen?

Your extreme concern about the possibility of being Boxed or banned seems irrational to me and your request for a free for all forum seems partly to come from a wish to post without fear of sanctions.

Any one of us could be Boxed or banned for what we post here, but I don't think that many of us fear it to any great extent. Clearly, you do fear it and I'm trying to understand why you fear it so much and why you need the rules to be so rigid, detailed and inflexible when so many of us regard the rules as little more than guidelines and post without that fear.
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Oh, cool, look: Google has one of these built right in. Let's try it.

Ta-da!
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It's increasingly difficult to explain why one "concerned poster" is allowed to disrupt so many other peoples experiences here.
It's increasingly difficult to see why a few posters (or maybe just you supposedly speaking for them) think that this one thread is disrupting their experiences here.

Could you explain that please?

What exactly am I disrupting? I see you posting in a thread set up by a sock to mock this thread. Is that taking you away from something else that you wanted to be posting? Or did you feel compelled to post in this thread, and that's what's so disruptive?

And what do you mean by "concerned poster"? What am I supposed to be concerned about? Victor started the concern troll meme. Here's the definition I think works in this context:

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A phrase of absolutely no meaning, used by bloggers to shut down debate on their sites.
What do you think it means when you're using it?
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If a happy funtime place is all she wants, then her request that it be unmoderated and that there be a guarantee people wouldn't be banned for participating in it makes no sense.

Her initial request definitely came across to me as for something similar to the old-school SDMB Pit, but with fewer rules.
She wants a place where there are no rules aside from the basic ones and where people can play games (like the one where instead of people like me posting funny or at least bizarre one-line responses to things, we'd be posting for the sake of having the last post in every thread on the first page of a forum) and basically do anything they want without fear of someone stepping in and saying, for example, that there's going to be a new rule for a certain poster because she's pissing everybody off because her posting style is battier than a cave in winter.

The fun is that she hasn't specified (that I've seen, at least) how this would be different from what happens in, for example, the Box. I believe this has already been covered, but it bears repeating. She wants something new but won't say what's wrong with what we have. She's like the kid who wants a new, fancy jungle gym but isn't saying what's wrong with the current fancy jungle gym.
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What do you think it means when you're using it?

It means you should give all your monies to thren.
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You already have my power of attorney!
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Really?
You went back 27 hours, from post #121 of a thread that now has 235 posts to argue about this?

And that thread is NOT a mockery of anything. It is , in MY eyes only, an attempt to determine what would happen in a "free for all forum" like you suggest. The fact that it isn't going the way you had envisioned doesn't change that.

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YAY! See you guys! Told you I invaded Canada!
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Oh, cool, look: Google has one of these built right in. Let's try it.

Ta-da!
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It's just... the way I see it is:

1). Roo feels that (s)he and others are stifled by the modes, and I don't agree. I think they even encourage us to post what we want to.
2). Roo wants chaos and anarchy here and I think we have that with respect to keeping on topic for informative discussion. It's fun at times.
I don't feel like you summarize in your point 1 and I don't want what you summarize in your point 2.

In fact, I'm not proposing any changes to the board as a whole. I'm was just suggesting adding another forum. Nothing else would change.

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I enjoy this place and really feel that myself and others are open to say what we want.
That's great for you. And I'm not suggesting that we change anything about that.
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Really?
You went back 27 hours, from post #121 of a thread that now has 235 posts to argue about this?

And that thread is NOT a mockery of anything. It is , in MY eyes only, an attempt to determine what would happen in a "free for all forum" like you suggest. The fact that it isn't going the way you had envisioned doesn't change that.
In case anyone else isn't noticing, I'm taking the replies in chronological order except for this one.

And that thread is going exactly as I envisioned. The only thing is that it's still in the Box so it still has the constraint of the general rules to it.

ETA: And if anyone wants me to stop replying, then STOP POSTING TO THE THREAD!

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In case anyone else isn't noticing, I'm taking the replies in chronological order except for this one.

And that thread is going exactly as I envisioned. The only thing is that it's still in the Box so it still has the constraint of the general rules to it.
If you will tell me what it is that is going to attract Mod attention, that will cause a rules violation, or whatever it is that you're most concerned about, I'll go post it in there right now. And we can all SEE what will happen.

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