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10th June 2012, 02:18 PM
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Well, I went trap shooting for the first time ever today. I went at a local private club that has public trap on the weekends. I was using the Mossberg, which has an 18.5 barrel, but it seemed to work. I was only breaking about 1 out of four, but that was me. Towards the end I was starting to get a feel for how I missed. I shot two rounds and had an awesome time. The people there are very nice and I'm going to go back. Plus, at 5 bucks a round, you can't beat it with a stick. It was very family oriented and there were a fair number of kids shooting with their folks. The twenty one cent Walmart shells work great, so this is budget entertainment.
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#705
10th June 2012, 02:45 PM
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All right I want some impartial advice. AFAIK this used Taurus .40 is still at this little shop -- don't know the model. Maybe 5.5" barrel? Yeah, when I was testing some sidearms in my price range out for balance (about $300-$350) I accidentally dropped the magazine on the ground -- lots of raised eyebrows. It might have been a used 1911-style, but I can't remember. Handled lots of pieces there, and the counter people were glad to help me get started trying stuff out in my hand. No range there but still, you can tell they liked the show.
Quite a few friends said can't go wrong with a .40 for balance of stopping power and cost of ammo -- I like to shoot a lot when I go out to a range or just tag along with some friends/acquaintances out to the hills, and I can't afford .45ACP or .357 in magnum. My cop cousin of mine has two Tauruses from his personal arsenal plus a duty pistol -- a Glock of some capacity and a little holdout Glock (I don't know if he bought his ankle holdout on his own). FTR he's a family man of color, not some redneck cracker Rambo-hunting copy but he does who lives in a shithole of a neighborhood and has a family of four to protect. His brother (also my cousin natch) also uses Taurus sidearms. Both have said a bunch of good things about IWB holsters, but I'm going outside-waistband, mounted on my strong hand (right) -- and I think FBI rake is good. Can't afford a Glock, but my cop cousin said you can drop them all day and no safety bullshit needed -- they just work. I walk in some sketchy places at night, and I need something (or think I do) that will just fucking work -- as well as rounds cheap enough for me to have fun once or twice a week. I think that Taurus is going to be it in .40 -- haven't done any research, but I'll trust my cousin. Thoughts?
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#706
10th June 2012, 03:08 PM
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How much range time do you have, and what's the caliber you're most comfortable/accurate with? For range time, an estimate is good enough: once or twice a [week/month/year]. That should provide enough information to point you toward an informed decision.
You don't want to know my thoughts.
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#707
10th June 2012, 03:18 PM
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Range time? I don't know. Whenever I can tag along -- these days maybe once a month (range or plinking at some improvised shit in the woods [with a damned sure backstop -- I'm no asshole trying to shoot Yogi the Bear]). I've been most accurate with a .22 Ruger Mk II (from way back whenever it was made -- it's an old piece my friend has). But I've been able to handle a .357 wheelgun (don't remember the make) and a .45ACP -- I've used a few 1911-style makes and models and also very recently took a "friend"'s Hi-Point .45ACP for a spin (that's a POS gun IMO -- it just felt as bad as did in the shop in my hand). My pops has an H&K 9 mm that is pretty nice and I can outshoot him anyday. Of course, he has cataracts and doesn't even bother putting on hearing protection half the time (which I think is stupid -- I'm only 36 and I have hearing damage already. Protect that shit) and has to be convinced to put on his safety glasses I gave him for his birthday. The last big handgun I shot was my former father-in-law's -- it was a .457 (I think) Smith and Wesson fucking hand cannon. He called it back in 2004-5 the highest-muzzle-velocity handgun produced yet. Yes -- that one hurt my arm a bit, plus I didn't hit paper or anything even close. That was in Pennsylvania -- the land of good outdoor ranges.
So what's wrong with your thoughts about me? A lot of my peacenik friends had the same idea. Viz, get that asshole away from the firearms -- well, it's not like that. I might seem like a dick on paper but I know what's safe and what's not IRL. Just like to shoot, is all, and want something of my own so I'm not always tagging along borrowing random pieces and rounds from friends. Also to CCW. Last edited by Jaledin; 10th June 2012 at 03:24 PM.
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10th June 2012, 03:26 PM
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10th June 2012, 03:32 PM
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Oh, http://www.gizmag.com/go/3657/ that was probably it. Huge fucking hand cannon -- comes "dressed" in a case and the shells were no joke. Still hadn't released the shells so that fat old fucker couldn't get his prick up trying to reload. Fucking beautiful piece. People at the range were waylaying him just trying to let their kids see it when me and him and his daughter were packing up to go on back to his pad.
ETA that's OK, man! I'm not a tell you my thoughts either -- that way we're all happy, right?
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#711
10th June 2012, 03:55 PM
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First off, don't go to sketchy places. Anytime you get into a hassle the risk factor goes sky high. It's not like having a weapon is going to magically stop an incoming round.
Second, a fullsize .40 caliber semi auto is going to make a good size lump on your hip. Technically it may be concealed but it will be totally obvious under anything lighter than a winter jacket. A shoulder holster is only marginally more discreet. IWB in the small of your back is the least obvious in most situations, but not exactly comfy. Most cops are very proficient at spotting weapon-ish lumps under clothing, so if you carry concealed you do want to have your paperwork in order. If you are looking for a concealed carry gun, a compact .380 is way easier to conceal and live with. But don't fool yourself; even that will be visible to people around you if you are moving around. Also if you are counting on your jacket for concealment, that can get awkward in unforseen social situations. Once I had to excuse myself and go home because I couldn't take off my jacket. But mainly, don't go anywhere with a weapon that you wouldn't go without one.
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#712
10th June 2012, 04:07 PM
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Good advice, I guess -- but I'm 6'3" and about 225 lbs. I'm not going to print my weapon on purpose, and even if the cops do spot me, I will have papers to get me off their radar.
I thought about shoulder when I had a little job as a driver, but I'll just wear a long jacket and avert the threat of being caught printing -- besides, isn't shoulder just for cats who need the mobility? I'm not James fucking Bond -- just a regular guy who wants to not get hassled by LEO (ahem pigs) or any other malfeasants. Also I'm kind of fat and can get away with wearing a suit jacket or some shit with no problem. If any question comes up, I'm a musician on my way to a job -- so I have to look kind of weird. Or just toss a bag of weed over on the sidewalk and say -- that guy who just passed threw that over there. It looks like a bag of cockroaches! I have to go, or I be late for work, officer! Problem with your last point is that I like to walk -- and that means walking along the freeway on a bikepath for three or four miles where I live now. Normally, safe as pie. But if it turns bad -- better to have some options rather than having my pearly whites whipped out with no analgesic for sale to Mickey Rooney or Meredith Viera or Carol Channing for dentures.
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16th June 2012, 01:44 PM
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First three gun competition with the new AR.
The pistol stage went great except I shot one target out of order. (Big score hit.) The pistol and shotgun stage went great, I hit all the targets (including both clay pigeons) and no minuses for anything. And the two water guns just detonated when I hit them with the slugs. The shotgun and rifle stage, not so good. The shotgun part had a new stunt, you had to play soccer by shooting a rolling target through the "goal" with your shotgun. It was fun and took me three shots to score. But the rifle part was hard. The flasher targets were ok, buy you had to hit clay pigeons over the face of the target at 125 yards. From behind a barrel. Then at 75 yards you had to hit the clay pigeon on the face and NOT hit the rest of the target. I sucked at that and killed 16 hostages.  The red dot was off a little and was hitting low. I need to go to the range and work on getting it dialed in just a bit high at 100 yards. But the gun shot perfectly, so life was good.
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#714
24th June 2012, 04:43 PM
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Went to the indoor gun range today with a friend. First time I fired the AR inside. It's really loud. Even with foam earplugs under the shooting muffs it was still loud. But we had a good time and I've decided to go ahead with changing out the sights on the Beretta.
Oh, and I forgot to bring the wrench for the red dot sight, so I couldn't adjust it. It's shooting low.
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27th June 2012, 08:51 AM
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Now that I've healed up a bit and am getting back to work again, I decided that that I'm going to finally get around to making my Mossberg 500 20 ga. into a better home defense weapon.
Right now its the same as when I took it out of the box when I was 13. I want to put a short barrel on it and maybe a folding or collapsible stock. I'm leaning towards an M4 style stock as opposed to a folding stock. Any shotgun experts have a preference? Another question I have is sights. I believe the shorter barrel comes with a bead sight. Are there any other types that would be good for use in close quarters or should I just stick with that? Also, there are a couple of screws on top of the receiver. I assume these are for mounting a scope base?
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#717
27th June 2012, 09:57 AM
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I would stick with the bead sight, and probably put a dab of flourescent paint on it to pic up any ambiant light. I would also measure very carefully to ensure my converted shotgun is a minimum of 26" long.
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27th June 2012, 10:34 AM
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Cool, Harry. The bead sight is what I'm most used to so I'm going to stick with that. Good call on the fluorescent paint.
Does the minimum overall length of a shotgun vary from state to state or is it one of those federal things? I've seen a variety of pistol grip shotguns for sale in shops around here and if they're 26 in. long they've got to be 26 on the dot.
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27th June 2012, 01:00 PM
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I haven't made it through all 15 pages yet, so I hope this isn't completely redundant.
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While you're bending over is the only time it might print, as long as you get a good holster and put a little thought into your wardrobe. You don't need coats or a photographer vest (might as well wear a sign), but you do need good gear. Went through a dozen holsters before I found the right one for me (Dillon 5JR-DL and 1.5" belt) but it's not necessarily the right one for anyone else. Even an untucked Polo shirt can totally conceal a full size 1911, there shouldn't be any sign at all if you're just standing or walking (bending can be a problem). Just like everything else, practice! Adjust it, move it, try a different location, different holster, hitch your pants up a little higher, tighten or loosen your belt a bit, move around and see if it's noisy (Kydex shouldn't be), make sure you can draw and then (safely) practice until it's reflexive, check yourself in a mirror while moving around, ask someone you trust, etc et al
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29th June 2012, 11:39 AM
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Today I picked up a cheap IWB holster and some snap caps do do a little conceal carry practice around the house.
First thoughts: I need to lose a little weight to carry comfortably. I've packed on a few extra pounds since my injury which is making my clothes fit a little tighter than they should. Once I burn off the weight it should fit a little better. I really,really need to work on my draw. I keep grabbing the edge of my shirt by accident. I'm going to keep practicing and probably experiment with a few different holster types. My work just switched to summer hours and I now have Fridays off for the foreseeable future. That means Fridays are now range days!
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#726
29th June 2012, 06:09 PM
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Do the draw really slowly in front of a mirror and keep doing it until the motions are hardwired. The big thing is keeping your finger outside the trigger guard until the gun is up at chest level and you are doing the push out towards the target. That keeps you from shooting yourself in the foot.
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So I bought an inside the waistband holster for the Beretta a few weeks ago, but had been too busy to play with it. So today I unloaded the gun, put the holster in at 5 o'clock, holstered, put on a t-shirt over it and started doing chores around the house. Two hours later I asked Mrs. Larsen if she had noticed anything. She hadn't. The holster barely prints with just a t-shirt over it. With something looser, it should be invisible. Today was a very hot day, but the holster wan't clammy or uncomfortable. I like it a lot.
Here's a place that has pictures of it. http://www.luckygunner.com/holster-i...-hand-73ip01bk It comes in a number of different sizes that should get anything you'd want to carry.
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1st July 2012, 01:59 PM
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I tried an inside the waistband carry to go the ATM yesterday.
Damn gun was too hot from being in the car to carry next to my skin, I had to risk the grocery store ATM without it. Dunno what I'm going to do about that.
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1st July 2012, 06:19 PM
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Don't leave it in the car
 I really wish I could find a decent looking lockable console. Already lost an SP101 because, even though the lock seemed durable, the hinge was cheap plastic. Tore the damn thing right off. On a fairly unrelated note - Got a Sig laser for my P238. Because a pocket sized .380 obviously needs a laser! To blind the bad guy long enough to reach a .45, if nothing else
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Need some advice. I know it's old and dated, but the .22-250 was the first center fire I shot and the first I reloaded. Thanks, Uncle Bud, for everything you taught me. I want one now, and have pretty much settled on this one:
http://www.basspro.com/Savage-12-FV-...53#description So the advice is this: What's the maximum scope you would put on top of it. I think I'd like a fixed power because all it will ever hit is paper. Is this http://www.midwayusa.com/product/630...cm_vc=wishList overkill?
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#731
3rd July 2012, 07:14 PM
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That's a mighty nice scope there, I don't think it would be overkill at all. I've never been mad at myself for buying good equipment, but I sure have for buying cheap junk.
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3rd July 2012, 07:22 PM
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That said, what range paper are you going to punch? In my opinion, if all you're going to go is 100 yards, go with a 12X Leupold and use a spotting scope. If you're looking at 500+ yards, then sure, go big. Of course, if all I was shooting is 100 yards, then I'd go with the 223. Last edited by Colonel Plink; 3rd July 2012 at 07:33 PM.
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4th July 2012, 01:36 AM
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The .223 is an interesting idea. Savage makes the same gun in that chambering, but I have two of those in semi-auto configurations. The 22-250 really is a stroll down memory lane for me, and while the 223 would sure be practical (and it would be even more practical in 5.56 x 45, which they don't make) sentimentality forces me to choose the 22-250. Thanks to both of you for your advice.
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How many rounds a year do you have to shoot before reloading is a net win?
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5th July 2012, 05:51 PM
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I started reloading when I got my .30 Blackhawk. Ammo is available, and affordable, but it's meant for the carbine and it felt a little hot for the revolver, even with the Pachmeyer grips. Reloading, I brought the powder down from 13 grains to 10, and that made a tremendous difference in recoil. I've never had the opportunity to compare muzzle velocities, and I have no idea what the break even point on number of rounds might be, but it means I going to shoot it instead of leaving it in a drawer, so that made the cost of the equipment worth while, in my opinion.
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Bottom line, I have the press, have the scales, have the skills. Working to a one-hole group, priceless? No, there are costs involved. But they so line up with costs I already pay that in the end it dose not matter. If I try to make this gun compete in cast bullet competitions, yeah, that might put me out based on cash.
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7th July 2012, 02:28 PM
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Which is how hopeless addicts like me rationalize our filthy little habits. I built my reloading shop up from bits and pieces of used and hand-me-down equipment. It's cheaper that way. For instance, Anacanapuna's eldest son gave me an RCBS Rockchucker Supreme press and brand new powder dispenser that came with the house he just bought.
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7th July 2012, 09:26 PM
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I got my Mosin Nagant back from the shop, and the new trigger makes a hell of a difference. I posted some pics. I don't know if it was worth $280, I'm figuring I've put over $400 into an $80 rifle. But it's shooting sweeeeeeet. Next calm day I'll dial in as tight as I can. When I can show you a 2" group at 200 yds, I'll know it was money well spent.
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8th July 2012, 05:12 AM
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I took another noob to the range yesterday. She'd never shot a pistol, and her dad had given here an old .22 revolver for some reason. The gun was in good mechanical shape and strongly built. (Like sized for .38 in everything but actual bore.) It shot fine although the sights seemed pretty wonky. After she was used to that I let her shoot the Beretta. It was a little big for her hands, but she did well and could even shoot it with either hand. Now she is talking about buying something that fits her hand better.
I think we have a new shooter.
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I took Wolfette out to shoot the AR today. It took her a bit to find the aim, but she did pretty well after that. She was complaining about the recoil though, so I'm glad I didn't get her to try to shoot the .30-30.
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8th July 2012, 04:43 PM
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I took the Mauser out to the range today to try to duplicate the award-winning group I shot a few weeks ago. But the best I could do is a 2-inch group. That bothers me. But I did see the groups get tighter every time, and my cold-barrel shot was spank on, two inches high. I think that's all I really need on a 100-yard shot at a Whitetail or Muley.
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One of the things on the interminable list of guns I want is a .22 plinker style rifle. Wolfette is not that avid a shooter, she also finds the recoil on 9mm bothersome.
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=295377838 Or more like this...? http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=295441420. Plinkette wants the latter, but she just now told me she'd rather have a wii.
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