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Old 26th October 2017, 08:40 PM
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Okay, fine; you're a VIXEN because it is easier to spell.
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found a couple more lines from the batman/joker slashfic in an old snark thread:

The Joker hummed softly around Batman’s dick.




Bruce shut his eyes and clenched his jaw, trying to ignore what was happening. The attempt was made much more difficult by Joker's undeniable talents.*

*Editor's note: Yes, "talents" is italicized.



the first line especially is one of the funniest things i've ever read

Well, that's ...horrifying.
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Old 26th October 2017, 10:38 PM
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Okay, what the fuck is up with THIS?
It's called a joke, son.
FTFY
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Old 26th October 2017, 11:05 PM
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STG has a "fashy haircut". Look at a pic of Richard Spencer for reference.

If I were her and I read the criticisms in this thread and the dope snark 7 thread created 6 years ago, I would kill myself. lol

That being said. There's a reason why I'm still single. Women like her are ABUNDANT in lesbian land. I can't stand it...
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mr. jp illegally downloaded a movie at someone else's apartment in Germany and it got traced to his host's IP, resulting in a €500 fine, which his host has to pay. mr jp thinks he shouldn't be liable, even though piracy is illegal in Germany.

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=839993
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Actually, I feel a little bit of empathy for her the more I think about it. She seems to have a passion for something that she's not particularly good at and will likely never make a lucrative career out of.
That's the thing. Yes, art takes some innate talent to be truly good at it, but technical proficiency can be learned and honed. For as long as she's been hacking away at terrible art, she should be able to make something that, while not good, is at least not terrible. But she can't even do that. The stuff she makes today looks almost identical to the stuff she was making 6+ years ago. Look at some of the web comics from guys who admit they're not artistically inclined and compare their early strips to their later strips. There are quite a few who became decent enough within their own limitations. You can see improvement over time of their art. Not so with STG. She started out at a level of apathetic mediocrity and fought to stay there.
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Sounds like me with guitar. After ten years when guys who'd played six months were better than me, I realized I would never get good at it no matter how much I practiced.
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Old 27th October 2017, 06:52 AM
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Wow, the sock hunters are on point today. I saw a question in Cafe Society I actually knew the answer to and so wanted to help the OP out. I socked up, answered the question, and was promptly banned and had my almost-definitely-the-correct-answer answer deleted so the poor OP will never know the song he's looking for. I know, I know, "socks are banned there, you know the rules" and all that, but when it was a legit answer to a question, you have to wonder what had them looking so intently.

Also, if Idle or someone else wants to help minlokwat out, I'm almost positive, based on his description, that the song he's asking about is Bahamadia's "Uknowhowwedu"
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Old 27th October 2017, 06:56 AM
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That's the thing. Yes, art takes some innate talent to be truly good at it, but technical proficiency can be learned and honed. For as long as she's been hacking away at terrible art, she should be able to make something that, while not good, is at least not terrible. But she can't even do that. The stuff she makes today looks almost identical to the stuff she was making 6+ years ago. Look at some of the web comics from guys who admit they're not artistically inclined and compare their early strips to their later strips. There are quite a few who became decent enough within their own limitations. You can see improvement over time of their art. Not so with STG. She started out at a level of apathetic mediocrity and fought to stay there.
As one of Chuck Jones' art teachers put it, every artist has 100,000 bad drawings in them before they start to produce something good. What every artist with some amount of skill does is hack away at those 100,000+ bad drawings because figure drawing, perspective, composition, color, light/shadow and all that boring stuff only come with practice.

ST,
however, said "Fuck it, I'm too lazy to practice drawing faces so I'll just mock them up in Poser and trace over them. And it's my style and I'm not changing it and anyway I'm too lazy to do it over."

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Old 27th October 2017, 08:22 AM
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Instead of all that, I took a clue from the quiet hopeless sobbing of my art teacher. You're welcome.
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Malcolm Gladwell is mocked for his 100,000 hour rule but there's a lot of truth to it -- never understood the derision (it's not like he insists all people become good at the 100,001th hour)
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Old 27th October 2017, 09:22 AM
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10,000 hours.
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Wow, the sock hunters are on point today. I saw a question in Cafe Society I actually knew the answer to and so wanted to help the OP out. I socked up, answered the question, and was promptly banned and had my almost-definitely-the-correct-answer answer deleted so the poor OP will never know the song he's looking for. I know, I know, "socks are banned there, you know the rules" and all that, but when it was a legit answer to a question, you have to wonder what had them looking so intently.

Also, if Idle or someone else wants to help minlokwat out, I'm almost positive, based on his description, that the song he's asking about is Bahamadia's "Uknowhowwedu"
That's all right. A couple of posters answered the question on your behalf.

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...80&postcount=3

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...84&postcount=4
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Old 27th October 2017, 10:19 AM
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Heh, thanks, socks-by-proxy!
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Old 27th October 2017, 10:37 AM
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10,000 hours.
That's accelerated mastery.
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Old 27th October 2017, 10:44 AM
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New Troll!

And a Warning from Bone.
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That's what cracks me up. That is about as obvious a troll as you can be, especially coming from a new account, but because they just have to make sure it looks like they're not stifling conversation over there, they warn him and nothing more. But when someone else does something low-key (like my earlier post), it's an insta-ban. Talk about some weird priorities.
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Old 27th October 2017, 11:17 AM
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That 10K hours or whatever was bad pop science that had its base in real science. Link to the paper from 1993 (pdf).
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mr. jp illegally downloaded a movie at someone else's apartment in Germany and it got traced to his host's IP, resulting in a €500 fine, which his host has to pay. mr jp thinks he shouldn't be liable, even though piracy is illegal in Germany.

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=839993
What a dick. I like how he says "I would've just let it go as a host." Yeah, sure you would have.

Usually I roll my eyes at the Doper obsession with "doing the right thing," but in this case the pile-on is entirely justified.
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That's what cracks me up. That is about as obvious a troll as you can be, especially coming from a new account, but because they just have to make sure it looks like they're not stifling conversation over there, they warn him and nothing more. But when someone else does something low-key (like my earlier post), it's an insta-ban. Talk about some weird priorities.
I just reported the post with a firm recommendation to ban
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I just reported the post with a firm recommendation to ban
We can submit ban recommendations? Awesome!
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That's what cracks me up. That is about as obvious a troll as you can be, especially coming from a new account, but because they just have to make sure it looks like they're not stifling conversation over there, they warn him and nothing more. But when someone else does something low-key (like my earlier post), it's an insta-ban. Talk about some weird priorities.
I just reported the post with a firm recommendation to ban
FFS. Once again they let flat out racism slide. Whether it’s a troll or a real racist, I don’t give a shit. That should be an immediate banning.
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Old 27th October 2017, 05:33 PM
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guys remember the citizenpained/farmer jane debacle
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I remember the names but not specifics.
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Old 27th October 2017, 06:27 PM
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some relevant reading:

the cheating ex/std/ectopic pregnancy saga

the anxiety is killing me which was running concurrent to the first link

pit thread

snark thread here where it was discussed as it was happening


the first link is the real drama bomb and is what leads to the pit thread. this is one of those situations where i think the snark got slightly out of hand. i mean i participated so no judgment or anything. if the topic gets going i'll elaborate but i'm going to bed so you will have to wait for my pearls of wisdom
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Noob fancies himself an author. Wants help with his book about killing babies.
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Noob wants to practice his fancy cipherin'


Best Gift for kids to spend time with them.
Time, that's the identity of the very best present for youngsters. They don't promote it in toy shops or online. It's only in us, in our disposition and in being conscious story shouldn't be learned in 2 minutes.

Dedicating time to kids doesn't simply leaving your cell, placing the pill or plugging the tv into your favorite channel. Neither is that schooling, or affection, or affection.

Childhood is, without doubt, one of the most necessary phases of life by which the material of our evolution is interwoven. Thus, kids are immersed in hundreds of adjustments that typically adults don't even understand and that, due to this fact, we lose if we're not attentive.

Educating and sharing moments " at a sluggish fireplace " means respecting their rhythms, giving them a house to develop, not skipping phases, rising and evolve without the stress and exigency that we now have generated around them.

This academic perspective is predicated on the sluggish philosophy, which manifests the necessity to privilege an extra calm rhythm of life, thus selling maturity, evolution and the creation of ties from the pure development of the kid, without haste.

That is achieved by supporting the kid in every step, not forcing their evolutionary phases and providing psychological oxygen to their schooling, forgetting the marking and impregnating each little studying, each present of affection and each assortment of motives.

Could the push not rob you of the magic of childhood

Hurry is our worst advisers. They're liable for stealing essentially the most valuable moments and essentially the greatest particulars of the magic of childhood. Now, if we cease to suppose, maybe we will treat this.

Duties, ordering the home, showering, soccer at six, birthdays at eight, dinner at ten ... All day at a jog ... and at a gallop. What will we wish to obtain with that? Are our kids having fun with? Are we being conscious of what we're lacking and what we're inflicting them to lose?

In all probability not. We should do the train of reflecting if we provide TIME to our kids, if we play with them sufficiently and if we set up there every day by reserving moments by which we dedicate ourselves completely to them and to us in conjunction.

Thus, it can be crucial that:

Depart apart the push from the primary hour of the day, get up our kids with affection and provide a breakfast of affection with tranquility.
Style each meal with them without distractions like tv or magazines. We can play the see-see, we will speak about on a regular basis issues and deepen the expression of emotions and feelings.
It's good to protect "moments of secrecy" by which we are going to solely speak about our issues with whole sincerity.
We can make excursions to quiet locations, pure landscapes, and environments that invite us to discover and expertise collectively.

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Best Gift for kids to spend time with them.
Time, that's the identity of the very best present for youngsters. They don't promote it in toy shops or online. It's only in us, in our disposition and in being conscious story shouldn't be learned in 2 minutes.

Dedicating time to kids doesn't simply leaving your cell, placing the pill or plugging the tv into your favorite channel. Neither is that schooling, or affection, or affection.

Childhood is, without doubt, one of the most necessary phases of life by which the material of our evolution is interwoven. Thus, kids are immersed in hundreds of adjustments that typically adults don't even understand and that, due to this fact, we lose if we're not attentive.

Educating and sharing moments " at a sluggish fireplace " means respecting their rhythms, giving them a house to develop, not skipping phases, rising and evolve without the stress and exigency that we now have generated around them.

This academic perspective is predicated on the sluggish philosophy, which manifests the necessity to privilege an extra calm rhythm of life, thus selling maturity, evolution and the creation of ties from the pure development of the kid, without haste.

That is achieved by supporting the kid in every step, not forcing their evolutionary phases and providing psychological oxygen to their schooling, forgetting the marking and impregnating each little studying, each present of affection and each assortment of motives.

Could the push not rob you of the magic of childhood

Hurry is our worst advisers. They're liable for stealing essentially the most valuable moments and essentially the greatest particulars of the magic of childhood. Now, if we cease to suppose, maybe we will treat this.

Duties, ordering the home, showering, soccer at six, birthdays at eight, dinner at ten ... All day at a jog ... and at a gallop. What will we wish to obtain with that? Are our kids having fun with? Are we being conscious of what we're lacking and what we're inflicting them to lose?

In all probability not. We should do the train of reflecting if we provide TIME to our kids, if we play with them sufficiently and if we set up there every day by reserving moments by which we dedicate ourselves completely to them and to us in conjunction.

Thus, it can be crucial that:

Depart apart the push from the primary hour of the day, get up our kids with affection and provide a breakfast of affection with tranquility.
Style each meal with them without distractions like tv or magazines. We can play the see-see, we will speak about on a regular basis issues and deepen the expression of emotions and feelings.
It's good to protect "moments of secrecy" by which we are going to solely speak about our issues with whole sincerity.
We can make excursions to quiet locations, pure landscapes, and environments that invite us to discover and expertise collectively.

it might be a trifle wordy
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Best Gift for kids to spend time with them.
Time, that's the identity of the very best present for youngsters. They don't promote it in toy shops or online. It's only in us, in our disposition and in being conscious story shouldn't be learned in 2 minutes.

Dedicating time to kids doesn't simply leaving your cell, placing the pill or plugging the tv into your favorite channel. Neither is that schooling, or affection, or affection.

Childhood is, without doubt, one of the most necessary phases of life by which the material of our evolution is interwoven. Thus, kids are immersed in hundreds of adjustments that typically adults don't even understand and that, due to this fact, we lose if we're not attentive.

Educating and sharing moments " at a sluggish fireplace " means respecting their rhythms, giving them a house to develop, not skipping phases, rising and evolve without the stress and exigency that we now have generated around them.

This academic perspective is predicated on the sluggish philosophy, which manifests the necessity to privilege an extra calm rhythm of life, thus selling maturity, evolution and the creation of ties from the pure development of the kid, without haste.

That is achieved by supporting the kid in every step, not forcing their evolutionary phases and providing psychological oxygen to their schooling, forgetting the marking and impregnating each little studying, each present of affection and each assortment of motives.

Could the push not rob you of the magic of childhood

Hurry is our worst advisers. They're liable for stealing essentially the most valuable moments and essentially the greatest particulars of the magic of childhood. Now, if we cease to suppose, maybe we will treat this.

Duties, ordering the home, showering, soccer at six, birthdays at eight, dinner at ten ... All day at a jog ... and at a gallop. What will we wish to obtain with that? Are our kids having fun with? Are we being conscious of what we're lacking and what we're inflicting them to lose?

In all probability not. We should do the train of reflecting if we provide TIME to our kids, if we play with them sufficiently and if we set up there every day by reserving moments by which we dedicate ourselves completely to them and to us in conjunction.

Thus, it can be crucial that:

Depart apart the push from the primary hour of the day, get up our kids with affection and provide a breakfast of affection with tranquility.
Style each meal with them without distractions like tv or magazines. We can play the see-see, we will speak about on a regular basis issues and deepen the expression of emotions and feelings.
It's good to protect "moments of secrecy" by which we are going to solely speak about our issues with whole sincerity.
We can make excursions to quiet locations, pure landscapes, and environments that invite us to discover and expertise collectively.

it might be a trifle wordy
Turns out to be spam. Edited in a link just before the timer expired.
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Old 28th October 2017, 07:49 AM
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Even Broomie's own body hates her and tries to oppress her.
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Old 28th October 2017, 08:55 AM
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She should kick herself in the knee. (She is the knee kicker, isn't she?)
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Femur. It would be a real task to kick your own femur.
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Femur. It would be a real task to kick your own femur.
She's an expert in violating the laws of science with her lies feats of prowess. I'm sure she knows how.


Anyway, new troll!
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that's boring Argie
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You're so demanding.
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In which AHunter blushes, lowers his eyes, and shyly reveals that he has fallen head over heels with his own reflection:

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Priorities —I value the establishing of voluntary cooperation more than I value defeating someone as my favored means of getting my way. My close interpersonal relationships are more important to me than financial success or being seen as a winner or a leader. Within those relationships, I want to be experienced as the listener, the person they can tell things to and expect to be understood, the person who understands their feelings and can sometimes give good advice, even if the advice is just on how to handle situations emotionally. I need to be valued by my friends and partners as a good person but I don't expect or need my friends and partners to adopt my plans and centralize my needs. Being friends is more important than sex, and sex for me is something best shared with someone I have openness and trust with.

In nearly every endeavor, the goal or objective is less important than the process by which it is sought. In any argument or dispute, the other person or people see things from a vantage point in which they are in the right, and it is always productive to try to see things from that vantage point one's own self, to understand the folks you're trying to communicate with, to perhaps realize that their position in the argument or dispute should prevail over your own, or, if not, to better explain your position in terms that they will understand — so disputes and arguments are not about defeating an adversary but are about sharing viewpoints and having the courage to consider things non-defensively. Courage, in general, is about being honest and allowing one's self to be affected by others, to risk being changed, to be fully present and to integrate as much of the entirety of what one feels and thinks and cares about into one's interactions with others as possible, while receiving as much of their thoughts and feelings and considerations as well. The ends rarely justify the means.

People are of value for how they are, not merely for what they do or how they can serve a utilitarian benefit; their expression of themselves participates in making the world what it is, and those who brighten life are a positive. The individual self is not arrayed against the society, nor has a duty to comply and to be obedient to it, so much as the individual self is a participant, along with others, in forming a social self. We are interdependent, rather than independent. Our individual selfishness is a good, a seeking of the best that can make everything better for everyone when we understand it well. That's because, as I said, we as individuals aren't arrayed against the others. There is no need for adversarial struggling for the most part: as long as there's enough to go around, being at peace with each other is a natural state, and fighting is an anomalous state that isn't inevitable or necessary most of the time.

Tastes & Preferences — I'm afraid I don't have a very well-developed sense of humor. I'm ponderously serious and earnest mostly, although I can be silly and I can also see the ridiculous side of things, including myself in all my so-serious earnestly intended self-importance. I like things to be efficient in how they achieve their purpose, but not at the expense of being pretty. Elegance requires both. I like stories with a long slowly-developing plot line, whether in a TV series or a book or other medium, the long story arc with the entertaining episode or scene or chapter in the foreground providing faster and more immediate entertainment but with the long tale unfolding behind it. Corny as it may be, I like music and theater that creates the tension and builds and builds and actually gets you nervous and frazzled and then finally, eventually, explodes in a climactic moment.

I don't have a favorite color so much as a favorite color combination: rich deep blue (not DARK blue but blue like the Arizona sky in autumn, intense blue) with the contrasting color being a fiery reddish-orange, the redorange of autumn maple leaves. In short, you can understand why I love the northeast fall season when the leaves are changing! (It's not something I grew up with, I come from Georgia and New Mexico where the fall foliage is quite different). I like classical music, the dramatic stuff like Tchaikovsky and Rimsky-Korsakov and Grieg and Beethoven and Verdi and Rachmaninoff, but also the ethereally shimmery stuff like Sibelius, Vaughn-Williams, Satie, Nystedt and others, and the ones who do a lot of both, like Holst. I can enjoy a good funky jaunty tune (or tale or personality) and I embraced rock (eventually) but I can be put off by perceived coarseness, bluntness, which sometimes pushes me away from things I later discover I like quite well.

Postures, Movements, and Gestures — I sit small, or else I sprawl latitudinally with my legs extended out in front of me, but I don't tend to sprawl side-to-side. In repose I have the opposite of resting bitch face —I seem to always be smiling. In motion, I tend towards extremes: small and slow movements or else rapid and purposeful. When I cook, my girlfriend says I "dervish", spinning from one countertop to the next, darting here and there rapidly and leaving her unsure of where she can safely position herself to avoid collisions. When I walk, I stride, fast long walking that covers the ground. When I stand, I am out of people's path, out of the way, accommodating people as they approach from any direction. I drive that way, too, changing lanes to allow faster people behind me to get around or making room for people coming in from the sides. I futz with my hair a lot when I'm talking to people, a nervous habit I guess. I also stroke my beard, not generally a feminine trait I suppose, although it might be if girls had beards.

When I'm talking with someone, my hands are usually in my lap, sometimes between my knees. Maybe that helps keep them out of my hair. I flounce, especially when I get more animated, involved in talking. I'm more condensed when listening, sitting more still, letting the other person have the space. I have playful gestures, like I'll reach past something and come around from behind it to pick it up, carving a sort of swirly shape in the air as I move. I bounce when I walk, making me a pathetic dancer, all spring-loaded on the balls of my feet and boinging around like Tigger from Winnie-the-Pooh. I skip. When I feel shy I often clasp my hands behind my back instead of in front. My partner allthegood says I have an array of flirtatous gestures and several times has asked me if I know what I'm doing, if I'm aware of what I'm doing, and I'm not sure. I think there's a lot that I'm not aware of.

Conversations, Vocalizations, and Language Use — I get "ma'amed" on the phone constantly. People can't see me and without visual cues I apparently have a voice that people interpret as feminine. Here's that link again, judge for yourself. I don't talk particularly fast usually, though; I'm verbose (big big surprise, right?) and folks say I don't tend to get to the point, so much as I sort of set off on an excursion with an eventual goal of getting to that point. I'm not an interrupter, mostly, although I have a bad habit of chiming in to finish people's sentences sometimes. I have a quiet voice. In a room full of people, I often get excluded from the conversation because people don't hear me starting to say something and talk right over me. It's one of the reasons I prefer a small group. Not the only reason, I think conversations go in more personal and interesting directions in a smaller group, but it's definitely a factor. I am a very verbal person with a large vocabulary, and I tend to describe things my own way. One of the feminine things I don't do too much is that thing where you end all your sentences on a rising note as if you're asking a question. Although I'm not a very funny person, mostly, I can be amused, and I either cackle or giggle when you get me to laugh.

Style & Adornments — There's a diagram that got floated around on some of the gender boards, a grid on which one dimension is your gender component (masculine, androgynous, or feminine) and the other dimension has to do with how much effort to put into your sense of style and expression. Here it is. I'm a swan-sparrow with intermittent ambitions to rise to swan-crow. My default garments are either jeans or skirts coupled with a simple t shirt, with a sweater or jacket or coat thrown over during colder months. I'd never be caught in one of those "suit" things that males tend to wear, the blazer jacket that opens in front down to your navel, with a necktie, and those hideous pants they wear with the side-slit pockets and the loose baggy fit... ugh! I always liked my clothes to fit well enough to contour to the shape of my body. That may be a notion I need to rethink as my belly keeps getting rounder as I age.

Anyway, I wear my hair long and loose, except when I'm out hiking in which case I bind it up in a bun with bobby pins (to keep it from getting horribly tangled in the wind). I have several sets of post earrings, and I like a design that has a bit of a swirl to it, a creative shape either for the jewel itself or the mounting. I'm terrified of dangly earrings, I'd probably catch them on something. My footwear is exclusively sneakerwear unless it is rainy or snowy and then I put on boots. No way in hell I'd go around in high heels, and you shouldn't either. They're really bad for your ankles and feet. Most of my skirts are denim (consistency!) but I do have a couple nicer ones and some white dance tights to wear with them (I have nice curvy legs). I wear necklaces on occasion, and would like to acquire a few more. I hate rings and bracelets and won't wear them. I trim my own facial hair with a Wahl shaver, and when I take my time and do it right, it ends up looking kempt and intentional and neat. I really should do that more often. I have a small collection of purses and pocketbooks but I only use them if I'm in a skirt that doesn't have decent pockets, which they don't tend to but some of mine do. My favorite bag is ALSO denim, with applique designs, very hippie-esque.

Flirtations, Seductions, and the Erotic Life — I will be writing a blog post about this on Monday, specifically about visual aspects of sexuality and how that seems to be a different thing for me than for guys in general. But I can tell you I do like to look, and that it's sexual for me. I don't at all like being perceived, interpreted, treated, anticipated, or regarded as an appetite symbol, that whole thing where since I'm male it is assumed that I want sex from women more than they crave sex themselves, or want it in a different way, or that it means something different from what it means to them. That's a very big thing for me, a very important element of all this. I experience sexual desire as a vulnerability, a needy openness and hunger that I seldom know what to do with. It's always a little scary as well as exciting. Feeling those feelings does not translate for me into any kind of specific and focused desire to do any particular thing. I've always been very private about my own sexual feelings, dating back to being a kid when I had no idea anyone but me ever had such feelings. The ones that accompany the seeing of a sexy woman with sexy shapes and contours don't have anything to do with her personally, it's not like she's aiming that appearance at me personally, and it also doesn't mean we'd hit it off and be ideal partners or have anything particular in common, and nearly always she, whoever she is, is very much accustomed to being found sexually alluring by males so it isn't going to be anything special for her to know it's having that effect on me.

So I experience it as a power she has, to either act on or not act on in any given situation, and my relationship to it is reactive rather than instigative. For me, sexual feelings are always complicated and bound up with ambivalences, wanting in the larger overall sense for sexual things to happen but not being anywhere near as clear on whether I want them to happen with this particular person at this particular time. I am not passive, and I should be explicit about that: I am aware of the possibilities, and I can and do exchange glances and give the other person the opportunity to look me over and consider the possibilities, and to have a conversation largely composed of gestures and glances and things you put into your voice. It's sort of like a tennis or ping-pong game, no one is doing all the pushing, there's always that sense of "your turn or you must not be interested" and that attitude is both a kindness or gift, "I don't wish to impose this on you", and also a pride and dignity thing, "I am not available except to those who are seriously about wanting me". Wanting me personally and not just some body. And yes, I think I'm quite different from other males as a collective group, that they nearly all do this differently from how I'm doing it, and I need to be preferred.

I'm not a prude; I don't think there's anything wrong with casual sex, either for other people or for me, myself. But it doesn't have much appeal for me when compared to the emotional intensity of being with someone I can be noncasual with, be close friends and confidants and take care of each other on a variety of levels and not just the tingly-parts levels. I love to be in love, to get to that state where you're just glowing with joy about the other person and daydream about them all the time and they seem so perfect. I know there are hormones involved, that it's a very biochemically-driven process, so what? It's delicious! I can give of myself and trust openly and completely and really let those feelings build, let it happen. I'm also resilient and a survivor and I am able to take the risk of a broken heart, a sudden unexpected loss of who and what I thought I had, and if and when that does happen I will make it through the misery and live to love again, I know that from experience. I want to play with adult women, passionate women who want this too and have been there and discovered the same.

I maintain my relationships; I tend them, care for them, for what I and my partners have going between us. Relationships don't just spring into existence and then exist of their own accord, you have to care about the relationships themselves as well as the other person IN the relationship. I go in expecting to be an equal partner, doing my share of the relationship-maintenance. Incidentally, I have been told over and over by women that they nearly always feel like they are doing this alone, that sustaining romantic relationships is something that women do, that keeping them ticking along, and hence "keeping your man", is women's emotional work, and that they rarely feel like they are equally partnered in this respect. (Your mileage may vary of course).

General Reactions to the Guys and The Girls, and Theirs to Me — I don't have and haven't tended to have many guy friends, and the friendships I do have with other male folks tends to feel attenuated, flatter, with less personal sharing and less investment and involvement. I've spent my life, or at least the portion of it subsequent to 2nd grade, feeling like I was not like them and did not want to be perceived as being like them. Instead, I felt like I had a lot in common with the girls.

Girls and women have not been particularly quick to see me and designate me as one of them. It's a more gradual and cautious process. But, yes, long before I began specifically telling people ' identify as one of you', I found acceptance among the girls and women, and it tended to grow as they interacted with me and we became pals, folks who hung out together, friends, intimates.

Boys and adult men have been far quicker to specify that I didn't seem to them to be one of them.

This section is really the one that counts, you know. A person's identity is what they identify as. I do hope you, having read this entire longwinded constellation of traits and whatnot, now have a clearer idea, but you should think of all the sections above this as contributing to this final verb, the act of identifying, counterintuitively and unexpectedly, with the people of the opposite sex instead of those of the same sex.
Doesn't he make a lovely couple?
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holy shit that AHunter screed is wayyyyy tldr. a summary?
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holy shit that AHunter screed is wayyyyy tldr. a summary?
He's a guy who mostly likes what he sees as girl stuff rather than guy stuff. This is apparently a subject of endless fascination to him, and he thinks everybody should share that fascination.
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holy shit that AHunter screed is wayyyyy tldr. a summary?
He's a guy who mostly likes what he sees as girl stuff rather than guy stuff. This is apparently a subject of endless fascination to him, and he thinks everybody should share that fascination.
If he found even one other person, he'd be tickled pink.
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aldiboronti starts a thread: We're all about fighting ignorance here! That includes religion, too! You guys agree with me, don't you?

The Dope's atheist brigade, weary of being oppressed and silenced, storms out of the woodwork as if this is the very first time they've discussed this. Needless to say, Czarcasm is ON IT.
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In which AHunter blushes, lowers his eyes, and shyly reveals that he has fallen head over heels with his own reflection:

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Doesn't he make a lovely couple?
I forget what AskPizzaBoy's record was back when he was constantly spewing word-vomits and I was putting it into Word to word-count, but AH's got:

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An impressive attempt, even if it doesn't beat PizzaBoy's best...
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He's a guy who mostly likes what he sees as girl stuff rather than guy stuff. This is apparently a subject of endless fascination to him, and he thinks everybody should share that fascination.
If he found even one other person, he'd be tickled pink.
It's toxic masculinity run mad, his hogging the conversation, mansplaining his ideas as if to simpletons, and talking dismissively over people with different viewpoints. More in touch with his femininity my aunt Fanny.

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Within those relationships, I want to be experienced as the listener, the person they can tell things to and expect to be understood, the person who understands their feelings and can sometimes give good advice...
I'M A GOOD LISTENER, I'M THE BEST LISTENER OF ALL, LISTENING INTENTLY TO YOU, NOT LIKE THOSE OTHER PRIMITIVE MEN WHO DON'T LISTEN, I'M IN THERE LISTENING SENSITIVELY. LISTEN, LISTEN, LISTEN, THAT'S ALL I DO, WHY WON'T YOU ACKNOWLEDGE MY GENTLE, FEMININE LISTENING? YOU CAN TELL ME CHICK STUFF AND I'LL LISTEN, BECAUSE HERE AM I RIGHT NOW, LISTENING EAGERLY UNLIKE THOSE OTHER MALE BRUTES WHO DON'T LISTEN. LISTENING!
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Between posting the word-count and reading your post, I tried to read it. Honest. I went back a couple of times and started over. I tried skimming. I tried just reading one paragraph toward the end. Nothing worked. I think the only reasonable summary is "I [AH] have nothing to say, but by God, I'm gonna take all day to say it".
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One of AHunter's problems is that he isn't posting on the dope in 2003 anymore, which was a time where any sort gender identity issues had to be met with full, unwavering, unquestioning support, or the voices of dissent would be run off by an angry mob wielding torches and pitchforks. Now, the liberal tone of the dope was something I always liked about the place, but in the earlier days of the board it was often to the level of "so open minded, our brains fell out". That's why the Kaitlyn thing fooled so many people, and even when the discrepancies in her posts were pointed out you had people desperately grasping at straws trying to handwave them away until Kaitlyn confessed. Some of that still lingers on the board today, but it seems like, generally speaking, people are a little more willing to push back and call people on it when something seems like BS, which is what is happening in his most recent thread.

He admits his blog doesn't have any kind of following, and since the dope doesn't like people to just drop links to blog posts to get traffic, he got permission to just post the blogs in full. He posted a link to a YouTube video of himself speaking at some sort of event from last year that had 0 comments and like 100 views or something. So clearly he doesn't have much of an audience aside from the dope, so I'm guessing that's where the recent thread bemoaning the fact that people think he's full of it is coming from - his only audience is turning on him.

The way I see it is he knows he doesn't quite fit into the LGBT community and he's trying his hardest to insert himself where he doesn't really belong. He's trying to coin the term "male girl", which is not a thing, and it's not going to become a thing no matter how many 5,000 word essays he posts on the internet. (Stop trying to make fetch happen. It's not going to happen!) He's been trying to emerge from a closet that he never belonged in for god only knows how long now. Dude, you're an effeminate, straight male. We know. Everyone who has ever known you knows. There's nothing deeper here. There's nothing unique. I've known dozens like you. So has everyone here.

I..did not realize I was going to go on for that long. I guess it's been building. So there you have it.
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Flirtations, Seductions, and the Erotic Life...I don't at all like being perceived, interpreted, treated, anticipated, or regarded as an appetite symbol...
I'm pretty sure he's in no danger of any such thing.
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I'M A GOOD LISTENER, I'M THE BEST LISTENER OF ALL, LISTENING INTENTLY TO YOU, NOT LIKE THOSE OTHER PRIMITIVE MEN WHO DON'T LISTEN, I'M IN THERE LISTENING SENSITIVELY. LISTEN, LISTEN, LISTEN, THAT'S ALL I DO, WHY WON'T YOU ACKNOWLEDGE MY GENTLE, FEMININE LISTENING? YOU CAN TELL ME CHICK STUFF AND I'LL LISTEN, BECAUSE HERE AM I RIGHT NOW, LISTENING EAGERLY UNLIKE THOSE OTHER MALE BRUTES WHO DON'T LISTEN. LISTENING!
My last post? What he said. Subfusc is such a good listener that he heard my cry, before I made it. Subfusc gets the 'good listener' award. He's such a good boy... err... girl... err... genderqu... err... POSTER! Yeah, that's the ticket! AHunter, not so much.
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One of AHunter's problems is that he isn't posting on the dope in 2003 anymore, which was a time where any sort gender identity issues had to be met with full, unwavering, unquestioning support, or the voices of dissent would be run off by an angry mob wielding torches and pitchforks. Now, the liberal tone of the dope was something I always liked about the place, but in the earlier days of the board it was often to the level of "so open minded, our brains fell out". That's why the Kaitlyn thing fooled so many people, and even when the discrepancies in her posts were pointed out you had people desperately grasping at straws trying to handwave them away until Kaitlyn confessed. Some of that still lingers on the board today, but it seems like, generally speaking, people are a little more willing to push back and call people on it when something seems like BS, which is what is happening in his most recent thread.

He admits his blog doesn't have any kind of following, and since the dope doesn't like people to just drop links to blog posts to get traffic, he got permission to just post the blogs in full. He posted a link to a YouTube video of himself speaking at some sort of event from last year that had 0 comments and like 100 views or something. So clearly he doesn't have much of an audience aside from the dope, so I'm guessing that's where the recent thread bemoaning the fact that people think he's full of it is coming from - his only audience is turning on him.

The way I see it is he knows he doesn't quite fit into the LGBT community and he's trying his hardest to insert himself where he doesn't really belong. He's trying to coin the term "male girl", which is not a thing, and it's not going to become a thing no matter how many 5,000 word essays he posts on the internet. (Stop trying to make fetch happen. It's not going to happen!) He's been trying to emerge from a closet that he never belonged in for god only knows how long now. Dude, you're an effeminate, straight male. We know. Everyone who has ever known you knows. There's nothing deeper here. There's nothing unique. I've known dozens like you. So has everyone here.

I..did not realize I was going to go on for that long. I guess it's been building. So there you have it.
And Una is "meh", which has to sting.
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<If only AH were AH so succinct. Snipped, anyway>

I..did not realize I was going to go on for that long. I guess it's been building. So there you have it.
That was a thing of beauty, Cunt <and I say that word, worshipfully>. If he could crab his screeds into the two or three paragraphs you did, he'd actually write well.

You write well. AH does not. Which one is "Girly"?

I dunno, but which one writes better is no contest...

ETA: Awright, I read it, again. I was a bit too hasty. Yours was a bit... uhh... AHunterish, too. It was actually readable, though, so you weren't dong too badly.

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Chessic Sense claims he poops in his shower.

expectopatronum, I think you nailed it perfectly. I do see one problem being that we really don't have a good word for a male version of a tomboy. But that's basically what he is. He prefers classical music and museums to sports? So does my dad! My mother, my sister and me are the sports fans in the family -- my dad couldn't give less of a shit. Doesn't make any of us genderqueer. Meanwhile, I pretty much loathe chickflicks and most girly shows with a passion and I adore hockey. Big whoop. That doesn't even go into tomboy territory. Most people are a complicated bunch.

It's like, we get it, you're different, and that's cool. I can buy he's rather eccentric. But he's really, really bad at communicating his ideas, and refuses to accept that. He gets frustrated with us because we just can't understand how he's somehow different from your average feminine guy. But if he can't convince us, no matter how many blog entries he posts, the problem isn't on our end.




The only real "genderqueer" thing I'm seeing is tendency towards bad fashion sense. Maybe it's just me, but I've noticed that a lot of genderqueer individuals seem to have really bad taste in fashion. Seriously, if you're going to cross dress, don't go about it all half-assed. His style sounds like "People of Walmart". Whatever your gender identity, that's not good ; (Sorry, I'm a fashion snob)
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