140: These Durps are made for Snarkin'. And that's just what they'll do. One of these days these Durps are gonna Snark all over you.

[Someone]

I just made some last night, too!

[Someone]

Alky is teacher's pet.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

It’s the last sentence in this post that trips me up.

My understanding of genderqueer/transgender is that it’s more impacted by the brain-body agreement, or what I’ll term the “internal state” than the identity-social expectations, what I’ll term the “external state”.

I'm not (*ahem*) a Purist. You wanna define the words that way, we'll use them your way for the duration of this conversation. And by your definition, I'm not genderqueer or trans. I'm a sissy femme male, a gender nonconforming guy, or choose some other phrase. Don't put the word "just" in the sentence though. There's nothing fucking "just" about it. It's a disparaged and marginalized identity. We get mocked and harassed, we get the shitty end of homophobia the same as gay guys, and we get pitied and seen as inferior to masculine guys.

Meanwhile, just FYI, you should be aware that the way you're using the words is not how the transgender activists are defining things these days.

Simple Google Search

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I didn’t say “just”.

And with respect your “simple google search” , it was a post, not a dissertation. Of course it’s more complex than the way I distilled it, and I was very clear that it was *a* perspective, not *the* perspective. I’m no uneducated conversationalist here- you have no idea about my background, my children's background, and my scholarly work.

So, thanks for the reply, I guess.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Blame @Pure for not sending out the memo

Dammit, I forgot again?

Originally Posted by Someone

Me too me too me too!

PM sent!

[Someone]

Oops

[Someone]

I'd be down for the latke recipe as well please. However, be aware that I eat them with both apple sauce AND sour cream, so if that's going to be an issue, don't send.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

I'd be down for the latke recipe as well please. However, be aware that I eat them with both apple sauce AND sour cream, so if that's going to be an issue, don't send.

That's how I love my potato pancakes. Is there a reason why someone shouldn't want apple sauce and sour cream on Latkes?

[Someone]

The whole fake “argument” about sour cream vs Apple sauce is plain silly. It’s all good! Anyway, I grew up with a sprinkle of sugar, which is a Polish Jewish tradition, so you’re all wrong


This is what I PM'd:
Adapted from Joan Nathan Jewish Holiday Cooking

Latkes (this makes a ton, scale back as needed. For 2 people, I’d do 2 potatoes and adjust proportionally)

8-10 medium potatoes, peeled. I usually use russet. Cut in half or quarters.
Peel two medium yellow onions and cut in half.

Using the grating blade of your food processor, alternate grating potatoes and onions. This will keep the potatoes from turning brown.

Move the potatoes to a large colander set over a very large mixing bowl.

Switch out the grating blade for the steel chopping blade. Process half of your shredded potatoes until smooth, but not a puree. Return the chopped potatoes to the colander with the grated potatoes. If you like crispier latkes, process fewer potatoes with the steel blade. If you like smoother ones, process more.

Squeeze as much of the liquid out as you can and let the liquid sit in the bowl for about 10-15 minutes. Drain off the liquid but reserve the sediment at the bottom of the bowl (it’s potato starch and helps bind the latkes).

Add the potatoes to the bowl and mix in two large eggs, salt and pepper, and 0.25 cup matza meal (or flour). Combine thoroughly with the potato starch at the bottom.

Heat 1 inch of vegetable oil in a large pan and fry in small batches until golden on each side. I flatten them using the spatula so they are thinner, rather than thicker.

Serve with applesauce, sour cream, and sugar to sprinkle on top (the sugar is a Polish Jewish tradition).

[Someone]

Paul_in_Wherever has joined my ignore list for being dense as fuck. I don't think he's a troll, I just think he's an idiot. Which is rare, because most times I give "people" the benefit of a doubt and just assume they're a troll--Max_SS, DumbTree, Vel-idiocy, etc. Heck, two of those aren't even on my ignore list. At present.

The Vietnam draft thread I mentioned in 139 was the last straw. TL's post sums it up pretty well. But I have this sense that's representative of his postings elsewhere.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Don't put the word "just" in the sentence though. There's nothing fucking "just" about it.

Originally Posted by Someone

I didn’t say “just”.

HEY.

Do I need to box both of you, or are you going to take this to its own thread somewhere? Because I'll do it, you know I will, and I'll take back all of your seasonal merry winter gifts to SS Kresge, too.

NO! Do not give me any lip, either, or I'll tell Giraffe when he gets home from work tonight and you. will. not. like. it.

Now go to your rooms.

EDIT: Thank you, Pure, the recipe was very nice and we accept your apology.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

HEY.

Do I need to box both of you, or are you going to take this to its own thread somewhere? Because I'll do it, you know I will, and I'll take back all of your seasonal merry winter gifts to SS Kresge, too.

NO! Do not give me any lip, either, or I'll tell Giraffe when he gets home from work tonight and you. will. not. like. it.

Now go to your rooms.

EDIT: Thank you, Pure, the recipe was very nice and we accept your apology.

But but but. Fine. (Stomps off).

[Someone]

** steals a couple of Pure's latkes **

Fine. But I didn't start it. So there!

(stomps off) (comes back, dumps extra sour cream on latkes) (stomps off)

[Someone]

Good, let's just pretend it never happened and there's no such thing as conflict, just like every other dysfunctional family.

Is there a Dope Secret Santa this year? That's surely good for lots of amazing drama...

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Good, let's just pretend it never happened and there's no such thing as conflict, just like every other dysfunctional family.

Is there a Dope Secret Santa this year? That's surely good for lots of amazing drama...

Especially if Secret Santa brings us some dope

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

The whole fake “argument” about sour cream vs Apple sauce is plain silly. It’s all good!

I don't mind if people want applesauce, but I definitely prefer sour cream. That makes a nice, all-savory, potato-y treat. With applesauce, what is it? A sweet snack? Crunchy, potato-y goodness? It's too confused!

But, whatever, I'm not Jewish. (I've been around for 2+ million years, so I predate Judaism by quite a bit.) Y'all do y'all.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Adapted from Joan Nathan Jewish Holiday Cooking

Latkes (this makes a ton, scale back as needed. For 2 people, I’d do 2 potatoes and adjust proportionally)

You'd better not bake,
You'd better not fry,
Don't put out the cake,
I'm telling you why,
Santa Claus is dropping the pounds.

Rogers and Hammerstein I think.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Good, let's just pretend it never happened and there's no such thing as conflict, just like every other dysfunctional family.

We put the fun back into dysfunctional!

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

** steals a couple of Pure's latkes **

Fine. But I didn't start it. So there!

(stomps off) (comes back, dumps extra sour cream on latkes) (stomps off)

Ha!

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Where'd that FigNorton character come from? Joined Nov. 19th and seems very concerned about the moderation. Specifically What Exit's moderation.

I've noticed him too. He posted 14 times on the day he joined, and sounded like a typical Doper immediately. But I'm sure his interest in rules and moderator decisions is purely academic.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Paul_in_Wherever has joined my ignore list for being dense as fuck. I don't think he's a troll, I just think he's an idiot. Which is rare, because most times I give "people" the benefit of a doubt and just assume they're a troll--Max_SS, DumbTree, Vel-idiocy, etc. Heck, two of those aren't even on my ignore list. At present.

The Vietnam draft thread I mentioned in 139 was the last straw. TL's post sums it up pretty well. But I have this sense that's representative of his postings elsewhere.

If I remember correctly, P_I_S(s?) has been in the military, and he has a certain Heinlein-esque romanticism about service and duty in the military. Of course, the idea the US would have "won" in Vietnam with minimal casualties were it not for insufficient manpower due to draft avoidance is, ah, ahistorical.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

TL's post sums it up pretty well

Thanks!

PIS's since answered that, more or less, by declaring that unwillingness to kill couldn't possibly have been anybody's real motive. I refrained from making up some motives for them and declaring that those motives must be the ones they've actually got.

I'm not expecting to get any answer to 'but killing / trying to kill people also endangers people'.

[Someone]

Thanks to this thread I asked my other half to make latkes for us this year. Sour cream sounds good, but so does applesauce. I'll report back with my findings.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Just point me to a good recipe. I've made them before, and they weren't hard, I just can't remember how.

What, they don't have Google on your planet?

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

MrDibble DESTROYS DrDeth with FACTS and LOGIC

He's doubling down on the stupid.

Originally Posted by Someone

Except that i thought I made this clear- my OP has nothing whatsoever to do with that thread.

It was a general request for a clarification. Not related at all to that thread.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

You'd better not bake,
You'd better not fry,
Don't put out the cake,
I'm telling you why,
Santa Claus is dropping the pounds.

Rogers and Hammerstein I think.

However, UK households have been advised that we may only put out alcoholic drinks for Santa if they are "accompanied by a substantial meal".

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Check your PMs.

Hey, you! Latke-hamentash... If you were there for that song, we were there at the same time.

i still sing that song in my head....

[Someone]

I keep hearing the mechanic fromTaxi in my head...

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Hey, you! Latke-hamentash... If you were there for that song, we were there at the same time.

i still sing that song in my head....

Not me- family friend alumnus. But they made us do the debate!

I know not of this song and am now intrigued.

[Someone]

Lame snark, but Broomstick out-poors me in the "Living room/parlor" thread:

The had to be a socio-economic factor with the “front parlor”, “good room”, etc. because you had to have a certain wealth to have a home large enough to leave one room mostly unused.

In my earliest days my family had the parents in one bedroom, four siblings in the other bedroom, a kitchen, and combined living/dining room. We just did not have the space to leave a part of the home unused in case “good company” dropped by. By the time we did achieve that level of wealth that practice was largely gone.

Jeezer with a Peezer! That's the first time I've heard living on food stamps in a practically falling-down house in the country and huddled around the one room that was close to wood-burning heat being "a certain wealth". What we were supposed to do, tear down the extra room and burn the wood for heat? Or just the piano?

And anyway, my brother just built a house with a front parlor/living room, and practically every square two-story house that I've seen has one, so the practice is hardly "largely gone".

[Someone]

Broomtales should be enjoyed but never believed.

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Originally Posted by Someone

Drain off the liquid but reserve the sediment at the bottom of the bowl (it’s potato starch and helps bind the latkes).

This is very important IME.

Also, the applesauce is better if it is homemade. Cook down your apples, then when you reach the point you’d usually stop, turn the heat up a bit and keep cooking. The apple flavor concentrates and your sauce almost becomes a syrup.

[Someone]

Can we please start a new recipes thread in another forum, possibly the Better Living Through Posting forum? Thank you.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

Broomtales should be enjoyed but never believed.

Poverty, femury, gotta be...BROOMY TALES

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

What, they don't have Google on your planet?

Of course I could google a recipe, but I wanted a recipe from an expert, not just some random schlub on the internet, who may or may not actually know how they're supposed to come out.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

So, what's the deal with eenerms? (S)he tried posting an OP several times, each time having it closed due to lack of discussion (link only OP). Here's one.

I suspect they’re a troll of the conservative concern troll variety. Put them on ignore and let them eventually suicide by mod.

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Originally Posted by Someone

Lame snark, but Broomstick out-poors me in the "Living room/parlor" thread:

Jeezer with a Peezer! That's the first time I've heard living on food stamps in a practically falling-down house in the country and huddled around the one room that was close to wood-burning heat being "a certain wealth". What we were supposed to do, tear down the extra room and burn the wood for heat? Or just the piano?

And anyway, my brother just built a house with a front parlor/living room, and practically every square two-story house that I've seen has one, so the practice is hardly "largely gone".

The hell you think you were doing trying to play misery poker with Broomy?

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I didn't even know I was playing the game. All I actually said in the thread was that we used the front room as the room we lived in because it was closest to the fireplace. I didn't even mention the other stuff but she came in there anyway with the "I guess you must have had a certain wealth to be able to afford an extra room in your house!" It reminds me of the reverse version of that "ask a child of privilege" thread where the poster describes an utterly banal upper-middle-class upbringing and spawned the "two colanders" meme which lived on for a year or so.

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2 co-landers? Well la-di-da Mr. Richy Rich. In the house I grew up in we didn't even have land. Our house just floated in the air next to the street. To park our car in the four car garage we had to rent a solid gold diamond slingshot and hire a football team to slingshot the car up into it.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

... It reminds me of the reverse version of that "ask a child of privilege" thread where the poster describes an utterly banal upper-middle-class upbringing and spawned the "two colanders" meme which lived on for a year or so.

I don't remember that, when was it?

You know as a kid we had one and were Lower middle-class. We have two now and are upper-middle-class. Maybe its a real thing?

[Someone]

My parents bought a TV so us kids could use the box for a bedroom. They never let us in the house except when the welfare department came by to see how happy our family was. We were so poor we had to play cops and robbers with real cops.

[Someone]

It was Lindsay Bluth in some thread long ago. Not just two colanders, but one of them was made out of metal, not plastic!

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Ask the child of money from February 2010

lindsaybluth, please provide a cite The colander thing happened in this Pit thread a year after the above thread (March 2011). lindsaybluth never said the thing about the colander, that was a joke that sprang up in the thread about rating one's status via number of colanders owned. Yeah, I don't know either.

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BigT lurvs him some Michael Jackson.

Originally Posted by Someone

And I’m someone who still is unsure about Michael Jackson being a sexual predator

https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mo...allen/927877/2

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Originally Posted by Someone

Ask the child of money from February 2010

Oh, wow. Some real gems in their second post/initial response:

Total investments in my name, probably $15k

Zoinks! $15k? At 23!?!?! That's studio apartment in downtown San Diego money!

I just graduated last year (I did a double major in 5 years)

Right up there with Andy Bernard's, "I graduated anger management just like I did college: on time!" brag. Of course he was a fictional character deliberately written to be over the top clueless...

My parents could come up with 100k in 24 hours too.

Wow! Thousandaires!?

I live in a tiny 1 bedroom apartment, probably less than 300 square feet.

Holy shit! I was just joking about that whole "studio apartment in downtown San Diego" bit!

Bolding mine. Summering in Europe is not fairly suburban, it’s upper middle class at minimum. I’m not trying to impress ANYONE with this thread

Ten years on, and I'll wager it's "mission accomplished" on that count.

I feel like the appropriate description for the OP is neither wealthy nor middle class (upper or otherwise), but something like petit riche. Pronounced petty rich. As in not really rich, but sure does diminish themselves in an effort to seem rich.

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Originally Posted by Someone

My parents bought a TV so us kids could use the box for a bedroom. They never let us in the house except when the welfare department came by to see how happy our family was. We were so poor we had to play cops and robbers with real cops.

Ha! You had a TV set; we had two! One on top of the other. One didn't get a picture, and the other didn't get sound.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

BigT lurvs him some Michael Jackson.

https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mo...allen/927877/2

What the Hell are you talking about?

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

What the Hell are you talking about?

I believe he is saying you have to love Michael Jackson to believe he wasn't a weird child molester.

[Someone]

Originally Posted by Someone

I believe he is saying you have to love Michael Jackson to believe he wasn't a weird child molester.

Weird take. I don't think he was ever convicted, and he's dead anyway, so you'd have to be weirdly obsessed to still care that he might have been a molester.

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Originally Posted by Someone

However, UK households have been advised that we may only put out alcoholic drinks for Santa if they are "accompanied by a substantial meal".

What, you mean like a Scotch egg or something?