Yeetmas 3 - Day 2 - And the three wisemen are no more?

[Bashorian Clement]

Originally Posted by Meeko

The motivation then ... Is it better to say frame of reference? .... The vantage I had with this, was one of assuming that non-town teams had a limited number of extra kills. That having used one of them [To total 3 NKs across two non-town teams] they felt pushed to do so.... because we were on to them.

Yes, 3 dead town in one day cycle is not good. BUT if we can glean anything from it. especially, if we are on their trail... then Ultimately that has to be good.

Besides that, what do you mean by “ultimately bode well for us”?

We are losing the battle, but winning the war kind of thing. Zugzwangs and what not.

Zugzwangs, because Occam's is so pre 2019.

What do you mean by "extra kills?"

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

What do you mean by "extra kills?"

I'm not sure how to answer this, without literally repeating what you just quoted I said.

I see two non town teams, and three kills.

[raventhief]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

guiri, why did you pick raventhief to highlight? I could've been accused of the same thing. I missed most of the Day and posted principally oog stuff. I still haven't read all of Day 1 and Night 1. (I was holidaying, which included some travel, but I'm back home now) But regardless, I'm curioius why raventhief was featured.

I always look shady to some.

[raventhief]

Originally Posted by guiri

Am working through the Day, her lack of vote and missing EOD by 12 minutes caught my eye.

Hence the I literally just got off work comment.

No, I didn't exactly cover myself in glory, but it is what is.

I would have voted AA but for lazy reasons. Easier to eliminate summertime who needs to get out then to find a sub in a game that was a bit hard to fill anyway.

[Vanta Black]

Originally Posted by raventhief

Hence the I literally just got off work comment.

No, I didn't exactly cover myself in glory, but it is what is.

I would have voted AA but for lazy reasons. Easier to eliminate summertime who needs to get out then to find a sub in a game that was a bit hard to fill anyway.

Please do not eliminate summertime kthxbye.

[raventhief]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

Please do not eliminate summertime kthxbye.

But it gets so hot and humid!

[Bashorian Clement]

Originally Posted by Meeko

I'm not sure how to answer this, without literally repeating what you just quoted I said.

I see two non town teams, and three kills.

You seemed to think non-town has extra kills and didn't take into account the extra N1 death would come from Town, and that confused me.

[Bashorian Clement]

In fact, the way I read it you thought that non-town was compelled to make an extra kill.

[Bashorian Clement]

Vanta's weak defense of summertime is troubling. I mean, if summertime is something you want to save, wouldn't you put up an argument for it?

[Annoying Christmas Singer]

Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow!

[Mahaloth]

gnarlycharlie is subbing in for guiri

[A Poor Shepherd Boy]

Welcome back gnarlycharlie. Hope all is well guiri.

[A Poor Shepherd Boy]

Anyone around this Tuesday evening?

[Vanta Black]

Hey, hope you're feeling better

[Vanta Black]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

Vanta's weak defense of summertime is troubling. I mean, if summertime is something you want to save, wouldn't you put up an argument for it?

Summertime, summertime, sum-sum-summertime.

I would vote out winter if I could!

[A Poor Shepherd Boy]

Yes. It seems like about a quarter of my staff at work is out with actual Covid though. Really rough. I hope everyone exercises patience with others out in the real world these next few weeks.

[A Poor Shepherd Boy]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

Summertime, summertime, sum-sum-summertime.

I would vote out winter if I could!

I will sure be happy to see this holiday season wrapped.

[Vanta Black]

Originally Posted by A Poor Shepherd Boy

Yes. It seems like about a quarter of my staff at work is out with actual Covid though. Really rough. I hope everyone exercises patience with others out in the real world these next few weeks.

Yeah, a local business has a sign saying they are short-staffed and asking people to please be civil to the employees who showed up. I hope that makes at least a few people think.

[A Poor Shepherd Boy]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

Yeah, a local business has a sign saying they are short-staffed and asking people to please be civil to the employees who showed up. I hope that makes at least a few people think.

It is worse than you can imagine. I have had more customers angry and
frustrated over the last few weeks than I can count. We are all working overtime and its enough. Meanwhile staff members that are still at work are getting noticeably irritable too.

[Pleonast]

for my gut reaction.

Meeko gets a pass today. Can’t vote for Prof. Pepperwinkle for mechanical reasons.

With 10 town left, we have to split our vote in order to control all three executions. I’m not hopeful; I’d rather have no more than two.

Sorry I don’t have time for more.

[A Poor Shepherd Boy]

So here are players I do not want to see wrapped toDay: Professor Pepperwinkle, Pleonast, Vanta Black, Bill Mc, Mordenkainen, Meeko

I am open to Silver jan to come and convince me her vote on Town Swamnerdami and defense of Archangel are similar to my vote on Town Christmas Sock and defense of Archangel. Can we find common ground?

I would like to see Annoying Christmas Singer drop the shtick and play the game. I would like to see how toDay's gnarlycharlie vs guiri works out.

I would like to see missed voters from yesterday make amends by leading votes wagons today. Town plays to win not to survive. Show courage.

And ideally on Friday maybe a lotof us can be there at noon friday to make sure there are no sheningans.

[Vanta Black]

Originally Posted by A Poor Shepherd Boy

So here are players I do not want to see wrapped toDay: Professor Pepperwinkle, Pleonast, Vanta Black, Bill Mc, Mordenkainen, Meeko

...

Why BillMc?

[A Poor Shepherd Boy]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

Why BillMc?

He voted for Archangel. Busing is a bad Day 1 play for scum. So while any of the players who voted for Archangel might well be Scheming Elves, they are probably not Mariahs. And if they are Mariahs, they are error prone playing ones and may make another mistake.

Players who vote for Scum can live in my world another day.

I want to wrap players who may be either Mariah or Elf. Two chances instead of one. Examples: The Cat's Meow, Annoying CS, Bashorian, raventhief, Dizzy

[A Poor Shepherd Boy]

Sleeping drugs are hitting and I am supposed to be off work on wednesday. We shall see how not feeling groggy and less Xmas-bitter can help my game. Wherein the toughness???

[BillMc]

christmas sock/gnarlie - doesn't seem to have posted much to gain attention
lightfoot - lots of night time commentary, maybe struck a nerve
swammer - bit of strange d1, no reason for scum to kill him, so probably the town vig. a reckless town vig is possibly more of a threat than the scum

Profs claim as cop....if it's a lie, then in a straight town v scum game the real cop should claim and it's a fair trade; or the real cop investigates the fake claim, then claims the following day.
In a three handed game, with godfathers, having a godfather fake claim a cop is a reasonable scum play, and a real town cop is more valueable in clearing others.

For now, I'll take prof's claim with a pinch of salt - especially as the person he chose to investigate turned up dead...coincidence?

SilverJan's snuggle of AA....if SJ is also a mariah, then probably the godfather, so protected by the mariah doc, so not a good target for the elf nk, or the vig. that said, the town vig taking a shot at jan to determine that, would have been a better play than swammer (assuming that was the vig target).

vanta seems to be trying to get the bandwagon rolling against me - it's not day 3 yet!
strike one of three mariahs seems linguistically correct, but you want to make an issue of it.

and gnarlie is back after a quick change to be guiri

[Annoying Christmas Singer]

Originally Posted by A Poor Shepherd Boy

Snipped


I would like to see Annoying Christmas Singer drop the shtick and play the game.

I would like to see missed voters from yesterday make amends by leading votes wagons today. Town plays to win not to survive. Show courage.

Shtick? What shtick? Or are you just a mean ole grinch?

“I’m the king of the forest!!!”

[A Poor Shepherd Boy]

Originally Posted by Annoying Christmas Singer

Shtick? What shtick? Or are you just a mean ole grinch?

“I’m the king of the forest!!!”

Just done with Christmas. Sorry.

Any thoughts on the game?

[Prof. Pepperwinkle]

Fiiiiiiive goooooooold RIIIIINGS!

[A Poor Shepherd Boy]

Originally Posted by Prof. Pepperwinkle

Fiiiiiiive goooooooold RIIIIINGS!

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Originally Posted by A Poor Shepherd Boy

He voted for Archangel. Busing is a bad Day 1 play for scum. So while any of the players who voted for Archangel might well be Scheming Elves, they are probably not Mariahs. And if they are Mariahs, they are error prone playing ones and may make another mistake.

Players who vote for Scum can live in my world another day.

I want to wrap players who may be either Mariah or Elf. Two chances instead of one. Examples: The Cat's Meow, Annoying CS, Bashorian, raventhief, Dizzy

Okay he voted for Arch Angel, BUT there are two scum teams, so maybe not so much a Bus as trying to kill off his opponent.

With multiple factions you don’t care who dies as long as it’s not your team.

So I don’t give much cred to leading the charge on AA. It was a BS case that turned lucky as hell. If ANYTHING. Bill is MORE on my radar for leading the charge there….

[A Poor Shepherd Boy]

Originally Posted by Dizzymrslizzy

Okay he voted for Arch Angel, BUT there are two scum teams, so maybe not so much a Bus as trying to kill off his opponent.

With multiple factions you don’t care who dies as long as it’s not your team.

So I don’t give much cred to leading the charge on AA. It was a BS case that turned lucky as hell. If ANYTHING. Bill is MORE on my radar for leading the charge there….

Yes there could be and likely are Elf Scum in the AA wrap. But if we do not immediately wrap players who vote for a successful Scum wrap on the previous Day, I think that seems best.

[Dizzymrslizzy]

Did I place a vote on Bill? Nope I didn’t.

But no I won’t ever praise a BS vote as being Townsided regardless of the outcome of the vote.

Bill is neutral at best.

[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by A Poor Shepherd Boy

So here are players I do not want to see wrapped toDay: Professor Pepperwinkle, Pleonast, Vanta Black, Bill Mc, Mordenkainen, Meeko

I am open to Silver jan to come and convince me her vote on Town Swamnerdami and defense of Archangel are similar to my vote on Town Christmas Sock and defense of Archangel. Can we find common ground?

I would like to see Annoying Christmas Singer drop the shtick and play the game. I would like to see how toDay's gnarlycharlie vs guiri works out.

I would like to see missed voters from yesterday make amends by leading votes wagons today. Town plays to win not to survive. Show courage.

And ideally on Friday maybe a lotof us can be there at noon friday to make sure there are no sheningans.

I just didn't think AA was scum because she was playing in a similar way to the last game. I was wrong. I wouldn't have tried to defend her if I had been her scum buddy though. I thought Swammi's vote on AA was opportunistic and if I had been scum I wouldn't have killed him either. So if I was a Mariah I wouldn't have killed Swammi and if I was an Elf I wouldn't have killed Swammi either because I would have just looked bad, which is what has happened.

[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by Dizzymrslizzy

Did I place a vote on Bill? Nope I didn’t.

But no I won’t ever praise a BS vote as being Townsided regardless of the outcome of the vote.

Bill is neutral at best.

I would give Bill more Town cred if there was only one Town team because scum busing helped Town win the last game.

[A Poor Shepherd Boy]

Originally Posted by Silverjan

I would give Bill more Town cred if there was only one Town team because scum busing helped Town win the last game.

One Scum team lost last time in this iteration because they bused. Town did not win, however. The other team did not bus and did what they had to do to get to End Game.

[A Poor Shepherd Boy]

Originally Posted by Silverjan

I just didn't think AA was scum because she was playing in a similar way to the last game. I was wrong. I wouldn't have tried to defend her if I had been her scum buddy though. I thought Swammi's vote on AA was opportunistic and if I had been scum I wouldn't have killed him either. So if I was a Mariah I wouldn't have killed Swammi and if I was an Elf I wouldn't have killed Swammi either because I would have just looked bad, which is what has happened.

So do you think a vig killed Swami?

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

You seemed to think non-town has extra kills and didn't take into account the extra N1 death would come from Town, and that confused me.

This.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Meeko gets a pass today. Can’t vote for Prof. Pepperwinkle for mechanical reasons.

With 10 town left, we have to split our vote in order to control all three executions. I’m not hopeful; I’d rather have no more than two.

Sorry I don’t have time for more.

Do I want to poke this with a stick, Pleo?

But, for Prof, please continue on "mechanical reasons"


If you ware posting the entire 10 town left calculus, in effort to have us follow you, that would be dangerous, if you are not town, .... and even worse if you and Prof were on the same non-town team.

But it does fit your play style. It fits you.


Please note that I am not judging, one way or the other here. ... Yet.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

Yeah, a local business has a sign saying they are short-staffed and asking people to please be civil to the employees who showed up. I hope that makes at least a few people think.

I've seen this online.

In person I've seen "Because of the labor shortage, we are now closed on Wednesday."

Which.... I remain pissed at people who get to .... somehow, infinitely gain the ability to deflect. Tone Deaf, in an echo chamber. They can do no wrong. Don't confuse them with details.


In a related story, 31 people [[As was told to me, by a manager]] did not show up for their shift today. I think the number was closer to 21, and I could count at least 10.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by Bashorian Clement

This is simple I think. My role PM was either sent or received on 19th December 2021 at 02:20 PM, and I made that post on 19th December 2021, 01:21 PM. I say sent or received because I'm not sure which the timestamp in my inbox reflects. I'll ask if I can do a screen cap of the timestamp if you want I guess. I'm Central Standard Time U.S. so you could try converting the timestamp in your inbox to see if it is close to mine.

I went back to find this exact post. I was hoping that a third person was involved in this exchange. Frankly, this, between us, feels like town on town at this point, and I would be further from that, if a third party was involved.

[Meeko]

Originally Posted by A Poor Shepherd Boy

So do you think a vig killed Swami?

It's interesting, right? Like, Ok, so I "quoted" this to respond, and wait for the new editing window to pop up, I totally read this in a different way.

Here I am, still hyperfixated on "vig" [[And if Vig, the assumption then, if I can read the rest of the Day, is that .... more than likely it is a Town vig]] and not fixed onto the fact that Swami was offed.

A third take at this is the timing entire, a N1 """extra""" kill beyond a standard number of N1.


So. I guess I am asking, at any given time, how do you know which "slice" to focus on?

[gnarlycharlie]

Originally Posted by Mahaloth

gnarlycharlie is subbing in for guiri

I'm back!!!

Originally Posted by A Poor Shepherd Boy

Welcome back gnarlycharlie. Hope all is well guiri.

I hope so too.

Originally Posted by Pleonast

for my gut reaction.

Meeko gets a pass today. Can’t vote for Prof. Pepperwinkle for mechanical reasons.

With 10 town left, we have to split our vote in order to control all three executions. I’m not hopeful; I’d rather have no more than two.

Sorry I don’t have time for more.

Is this because I haven't posted before now or you don't like guiri?

Originally Posted by Vanta Black

Why BillMc?

Because BillMc is a reknowned scum hunter and there's a running joke that he must be lynched on D3. If he's scum, great. If he flips Town, lynch everyone he suspects.

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now to catch up

[gnarlycharlie]

Originally Posted by Pleonast

Looks like I got some nibbles. I’ll let the line play out a bit.

You got some nibbles but voted me. Strange.

[Silverjan]

Originally Posted by A Poor Shepherd Boy

So do you think a vig killed Swami?

I think it could have been a scum team, not sure if a Vig would have.

[raventhief]

Originally Posted by Meeko

It's interesting, right? Like, Ok, so I "quoted" this to respond, and wait for the new editing window to pop up, I totally read this in a different way.

Here I am, still hyperfixated on "vig" [[And if Vig, the assumption then, if I can read the rest of the Day, is that .... more than likely it is a Town vig]] and not fixed onto the fact that Swami was offed.

A third take at this is the timing entire, a N1 """extra""" kill beyond a standard number of N1.


So. I guess I am asking, at any given time, how do you know which "slice" to focus on?

It's early, I have an still sipping on my first cup of coffee.

Ama maybe I'll come back to this in 10 minutes when a great smack smilie.


"And if Vig, the assumption then, if I can read the rest of the Day, is that .... more than likely it is a Town vig]] "

Can you elaborate on this? I'm reading this as if it was a vig, then probably town vig- but thats the only option other than scum thing 1 or scumthing2.

[Prof. Pepperwinkle]

Vote Count:

Originally Posted by Vote Counting Robot

Gnarlycharlie (1): Pleonast (70)

Wow. I knew we were voting cautiously this Day, but I hadn't realized it was that cautious.

RL/Health/Holidays have kept participation light, to the extent that even I wouldn't go after Yeet-the-Lurker toDay.

[Mahaloth]

15 active players. 27 hours left. We have 1 active vote. This is going to be a pretty exciting final 27 hours. Please make sure your votes are showing up in the vote counter with so many votes to come.

Originally Posted by Vote Counting Robot

Gnarlycharlie (1): Pleonast (70)

Be nice!

[raventhief]

Originally Posted by Prof. Pepperwinkle

Vote Count:

Wow. I knew we were voting cautiously this Day, but I hadn't realized it was that cautious.

RL/Health/Holidays have kept participation light, to the extent that even I wouldn't go after Yeet-the-Lurker toDay.

Jeez, yeah. Oof

[Annoying Christmas Singer]

Originally Posted by Prof. Pepperwinkle

Fiiiiiiive goooooooold RIIIIINGS!

4 calling birds!

[Annoying Christmas Singer]

Originally Posted by A Poor Shepherd Boy

Just done with Christmas. Sorry.

Any thoughts on the game?

Since you asked- I have no thoughts on the game because I’m not a gamer, I’m a singer.

And I SING!!!

But I’ll string some notes together in a minute… toDay has been quiet…